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Re: No Leader Has Spoken For Africa Like President Tinubu Did At UNGA, Says Agbakoba by musicwriter(m): 1:17pm On Sep 22, 2023
Fizalis:


Oh my God bro you just aligned with my thought on the barrier posed by using foreign languages to teach science here.
I once proposed for the translation of all scientific papers to our 3 major ethnic languages for easier assimilation.

Once done you'll not need to be proficient in English language to learn physics maths, chemistry, etc.

Bro I love you so much for having the same line of thought as mine in this matter.

Why not we pool resources together to translate all science books from creche to tertiary level to our native languages. If this is done, little kids in rural areas will now become inventors, etc.

Science will become second nature and natural to learn for us and our future generations.

LET'S DO THIS OR SPREAD THE MESSAGE BROTHER!

I already registered an organization to be able to do that but on second thought, that's the job of education, not an outside organization. It should happen at the school, beginning from kindergarten.

To do that, the first step would be to prioritize our native languages by using it to learn and write. Within a generation or two, those children would mature to adulthood and take over education into the future. Learning in our native languages would become normal to them as the problem of translation would be solved easily by them. Only then shall we assume scientific and technological power and compete toe-to-toe with white people and the rest of the world. And that's when the wishes of president Tinubu would come to fruition.

Intelligent Africans such as Cheik Anta Diop (an African physicist from Senegal) already tried translating science works into our native languages but the problem they face is that there are no words for most scientific terminologies. He wasn't able to effectively translate from French to his native Wolof language because we're so much lost in the languages given us by our colonizers. That's the problem.

We must FIRST prioritize our native languages in school and use it for learning and literature. It's in that process that nature would naturally compel us to fill in terminologies that are not currently in our native languages in Africa.

The destruction of black civilization was total!!
Re: No Leader Has Spoken For Africa Like President Tinubu Did At UNGA, Says Agbakoba by Fizalis(m): 2:56pm On Sep 22, 2023
musicwriter:


I already registered an organization to be able to do that but on second thought, that's the job of education, not an outside organization. It should happen at the school, beginning from kindergarten.

To do that, the first step would be to prioritize our native languages by using it to learn and write. Within a generation or two, those children would mature to adulthood and take over education into the future. Learning in our native languages would become normal to them as the problem of transportation would be solved easily by them. Only then shall we assume scientific and technological power and compete toe-to-toe with white people and the rest of the world. And that's when the wishes of president Tinubu would come to fruition.

Intelligent Africans such as Cheik Anta Diop (an African physicist from Senegal) already tried translating science works into our native languages but the problem they face is that there are no words for most scientific terminologies. He wasn't able to effectively translate from French to his native Wolof language because we're so much lost in the languages given us by our colonizers. That's the problem.

We must FIRST prioritize our native languages in school and use it for learning and literature. It's in that process that nature would naturally compel us to fill in terminologies that are not currently in our native languages in Africa.

The destruction of black civilization was total!!

Bro thanks for the new insight with regards to the lack of words for some scientific terminologies experience by the Senegalese physicist.

I'll screenshot your reply to enable me read more about him.

But don't you think we can still have a hybrid of English and local language for these scientific translations? We leave those terms that doesn't have words in our native language as they are but use Igbo for explanations and simple words.

I'm Igbo and would love to be a pioneer of Igbo based scientific books.
Re: No Leader Has Spoken For Africa Like President Tinubu Did At UNGA, Says Agbakoba by musicwriter(m): 3:41pm On Sep 22, 2023
Fizalis:


Bro thanks for the new insight with regards to the lack of words for some scientific terminologies experience by the Senegalese physicist.

I'll screenshot your reply to enable me read more about him.

But don't you think we can still have a hybrid of English and local language for these scientific translations? We leave those terms that doesn't have words in our native language as they are but use Igbo for explanations and simple words.

I'm Igbo and would love to be a pioneer of Igbo based scientific books.


That's a fantastic idea!

The way the Chinese and Japanese solved that problem is that they first developed a MODEL for translating Western scientific words into Chinese and Japanese, respectively- such that whatever new scientific word they couldn't find in their language, they simply use that model to create new word for it. That would be a short cut instead of starting from kindergarten, although the words that would be created may be too mechanical instead of natural. But that's a different discussion.

Let me say, nobody is advocating to ban English language as it's an essential language in the world we live in today. But it's a culture made up with human being like ourselves that achieved that feat. A linguist friend of mine, Noam Chomsky, told me that ALL languages are equal and the same. I wish I could show you what I asked him and what he replied. If you want I can screenshot it.

When we prioritize our native languages in school, English would become a subject you can choose to study or not. That's the way it's done in China, Russia, Japan.
Only those interested in English language should study it.

You may have an African William Shakespeare or J.K Rollings in Igbo, Yoruba, Hausa, Gikuyu, Shona, Wolof, etc. But under the present system of education, we'll NEVER be able to discover them!! Many literary giants have died unknown simply because we've accepted someone's language.

A child may be very good in writing Igbo but not good in English. A child may be very good in writing Yoruba but not good in English, etc.

Again, how to begin is to prioritize our native languages in school or create a model for translation as I said earlier. It should be compulsory to get a credit in our native languages, then at least a pass in English. That's actually how it should be if we're in our right state of mind.
Re: No Leader Has Spoken For Africa Like President Tinubu Did At UNGA, Says Agbakoba by Fizalis(m): 10:42am On Sep 23, 2023
musicwriter:


That's a fantastic idea!

The way the Chinese and Japanese solved that problem is that they first developed a MODEL for translating Western scientific words into Chinese and Japanese, respectively- such that whatever new scientific word they couldn't find in their language, they simply use that model to create new word for it. That would be a short cut instead of starting from kindergarten, although the words that would be created may be too mechanical instead of natural. But that's a different discussion.

Let me say, nobody is advocating to ban English language as it's an essential language in the world we live in today. But it's a culture made up with human being like ourselves that achieved that feat. A linguist friend of mine, Noam Chomsky, told me that ALL languages are equal and the same. I wish I could show you what I asked him and what he replied. If you want I can screenshot it.

When we prioritize our native languages in school, English would become a subject you can choose to study or not. That's the way it's done in China, Russia, Japan.
Only those interested in English language should study it.

You may have an African William Shakespeare or J.K Rollings in Igbo, Yoruba, Hausa, Gikuyu, Shona, Wolof, etc. But under the present system of education, we'll NEVER be able to discover them!! Many literary giants have died unknown simply because we've accepted someone's language.

A child may be very good in writing Igbo but not good in English. A child may be very good in writing Yoruba but not good in English, etc.

Again, how to begin is to prioritize our native languages in school or create a model for translation as I said earlier. It should be compulsory to get a credit in our native languages, then at least a pass in English. That's actually how it should be if we're in our right state of mind.

Wow! You are ful of knowledge and a master of communication and relay of your ideas. Are you a professor, cos you seam to be overflowing with knowledge that's beyond my scope currently.

The translation model for new words is a fantastic idea and practical too. New words no matter how mechanical they sound initially becomes natural with constant use.

Thank you so much Sir. Please feel free to enlighten me the more on this subject matter.
Re: No Leader Has Spoken For Africa Like President Tinubu Did At UNGA, Says Agbakoba by musicwriter(m): 2:23pm On Sep 23, 2023
Fizalis:


Wow! You are ful of knowledge and a master of communication and relay of your ideas. Are you a professor, cos you seam to be overflowing with knowledge that's beyond my scope currently.

The translation model for new words is a fantastic idea and practical too. New words no matter how mechanical they sound initially becomes natural with constant use.

Thank you so much Sir. Please feel free to enlighten me the more on this subject matter.

You've just touched a very important point that every African and all the other lands enslaved by Europeans should know.

Yes, if we keep using those mechanical words it would become normal but not natural. There's a difference between being normal and being natural.

However, it would eventually replace the natural way that the coining of new words should happen. But there's a danger.

The danger is that after long use, it would, indeed, override the organic thought algorithm (follow-come) of thinking in our native language. The algorithm of thought would be replaced with a fake and the fake would become natural. Therefore, thought would completely be colonized. You can call it original-fake. At that point, whoever gave you that language can manipulate you as he/she wants and you'll have no way to know that you're being controlled.

That's the real danger we face on the African continent that nobody is talking about. It's already happening!! And that's how and why white people exploit us and would continue to exploit us.

That's the whole point of making sure that someone speak and write in his her/her native language because it maintains you in control of your reality and in your natural self.

If we keep going the way we're going today and keep taking the English language as if our lives depend of it, we'll eventually be re-enslaved because the English language to our psyche is like that science words MODEL, which you and I now use to process our thoughts, instead of our native language which is the REAL thing.

If we keep going this way, our descendants would be in the worst type of mental slavery, manipulation, exploitation.
And worst, they won't know how to get back to our native language in order to reclaim their natural minds (thought pattern) to save themselves. So, there'll be enslaved FOREVER.

I've been researching this topic throughout my adult life and indeed has written a book on it. Read the PDF version of the link on my signature, you'll get the full scope.

No, I am an autodidact, I am a kind of off-grid scholar. Most of my education happened to me while teaching myself.

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Re: No Leader Has Spoken For Africa Like President Tinubu Did At UNGA, Says Agbakoba by PurestBoy(m): 4:38am On Oct 01, 2023
musicwriter:


That's a fantastic idea!

The way the Chinese and Japanese solved that problem is that they first developed a MODEL for translating Western scientific words into Chinese and Japanese, respectively- such that whatever new scientific word they couldn't find in their language, they simply use that model to create new word for it. That would be a short cut instead of starting from kindergarten, although the words that would be created may be too mechanical instead of natural. But that's a different discussion.

Let me say, nobody is advocating to ban English language as it's an essential language in the world we live in today. But it's a culture made up with human being like ourselves that achieved that feat. A linguist friend of mine, Noam Chomsky, told me that ALL languages are equal and the same. I wish I could show you what I asked him and what he replied. If you want I can screenshot it.

When we prioritize our native languages in school, English would become a subject you can choose to study or not. That's the way it's done in China, Russia, Japan.
Only those interested in English language should study it.

You may have an African William Shakespeare or J.K Rollings in Igbo, Yoruba, Hausa, Gikuyu, Shona, Wolof, etc. But under the present system of education, we'll NEVER be able to discover them!! Many literary giants have died unknown simply because we've accepted someone's language.

A child may be very good in writing Igbo but not good in English. A child may be very good in writing Yoruba but not good in English, etc.

Again, how to begin is to prioritize our native languages in school or create a model for translation as I said earlier. It should be compulsory to get a credit in our native languages, then at least a pass in English. That's actually how it should be if we're in our right state of mind.

Hello Chief, I'm your strong follower on this space and I want to tell you something I noticed about the Hausas on social media. They usually post in Hausa language and comment too including their influencers on Facebook

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