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Re: Edwin Clark Asks Tinubu To Remove Abia, Imo, Ondo From NDDC by Afriifa(m): 7:49am On Oct 26, 2023
Armaggedon:
Idiot..If we want to follow it geographically, then there will be nothing like South South. Most states of the South South are geographically not Niger Delta.

The Niger Delta region consist only of Bayelsa state, the riverine area of Rivers state and the warri area of Delta state. The largest city in Niger Delta region is warri not Portharcourt.

Upland rivers (including Port Harcourt) Delta north in Delta state, Cross River, Edo and Akwa ibom are not part of the Niger Delta region.

The crafty old man wants to define Niger Delta region in a half -correct fashion that includes all south south states, knowing full well that if the non Niger Delta regions of the south south are excluded, they will lose claim to majority of crude oil deposits in the country. He wants a Niger Delta region where Igbo speaking people and other ethnic groups will produce oil while his ijaw will have the loudest claim.
You are bastardd, is ur Ohaneze elders that are stupiiid, and idiota... He stated the facts. But sentiments will.not allow you reason it.

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Re: Edwin Clark Asks Tinubu To Remove Abia, Imo, Ondo From NDDC by Afriifa(m): 7:50am On Oct 26, 2023
Morenikeji090:
See fool..
You are the foool.. Counter his points if you were smart.. Idiota.. He stated the plain truth. How can a minority shareholder dream of being an MD of a company with many majority shareholders if not for greed? bastard.
Re: Edwin Clark Asks Tinubu To Remove Abia, Imo, Ondo From NDDC by Afriifa(m): 7:51am On Oct 26, 2023
Deltancapo:


Chevron head quarter still in Delta state and the state remain the top producer of crude oil in the region.
Pa clark stated the truth.. But you see rather than counter him intelligently they are insulting him. It speaks volume of who they are.
Re: Edwin Clark Asks Tinubu To Remove Abia, Imo, Ondo From NDDC by Yujin(m): 8:16am On Oct 26, 2023
Afriifa:
You are the foool.. Counter his points if you were smart.. Idiota.. He stated the plain truth. How can a minority shareholder dream of being an MD of a company with many majority shareholders if not for greed? bastard.
I know you're angry but you must try and calm down. Look at the bigger picture and see the mistake Edwin Clark is making. Any member of any association is qualified to head it as long as he is competent whether it be in the NDDC, SS exclusive governors association or whatever. Inclusivity should be the right direction and not some parochial sentiment.
Honestly, I'm disappointed in Edwin Clark for making this comment. I thought we've learnt from our past mistakes but clearly, we are still neck deep in that mess.
South South as a geopolitical region isn't Niger Delta as a geographical region. Some states in the SS don't have wetlands and aren't even close to the delta of the River Niger. How then do you call them Niger Delta states?
Remember, no emotion just plain geography and common sense.
Re: Edwin Clark Asks Tinubu To Remove Abia, Imo, Ondo From NDDC by Afriifa(m): 8:34am On Oct 26, 2023
Yujin:

I know you're angry but you must try and calm down. Look at the bigger picture and see the mistake Edwin Clark is making. Any member of any association is qualified to head it as long as he is competent whether it be in the NDDC, SS exclusive governors association or whatever. Inclusivity should be the right direction and not some parochial sentiment.
Honestly, I'm disappointed in Edwin Clark for making this comment. I thought we've learnt from our past mistakes but clearly, we are still neck deep in that mess.
South South as a geopolitical region isn't Niger Delta as a geographical region. Some states in the SS don't have wetlands and aren't even close to the delta of the River Niger. How then do you call them Niger Delta states?
Remember, no emotion just plain geography and common sense.
You are a joke.. Anyone indeed.. Was it not recently Abians were complaining that they don't want an Anambra man as Mayor of Abia? There is a conceptual Niger Delta, a geographical Niger delta, and a political Niger Delta. You can argue your lines based on the context you are using it.
Re: Edwin Clark Asks Tinubu To Remove Abia, Imo, Ondo From NDDC by Yujin(m): 9:33am On Oct 26, 2023
Afriifa:
You are a joke.. Anyone indeed.. Was it not recently Abians were complaining that they don't want an Anambra man as Mayor of Abia? There is a conceptual Niger Delta, a geographical Niger delta, and a political Niger Delta. You can argue your lines based on the context you are using it.
Like I said, think properly again about the implication of insisting that someone adjudged producing lesser amount shouldn't be allowed to head an association. This is because it might turn around to harm you in the future.
The mistake Abians did in that case is as a result of their shallow mindset that I talk about while speaking againt Edwin Clark. A good number of our people still fail to see the bigger picture. All Igbos celebrated our sister and daughter from Abia state who got a big post in far away Canada just last week yet back at home, SOME ABIANS rejected a fellow Igbo man from another state being an official in their city. As you can see, it is a general problem for our collective people and it doesn't speak well of us which needs to be addressed by our visionary leaders. I await to see if Gov. Otti will follow their emotional and misguided outburst or he will appeal to them to give his appointee a chance to prove himself.
Finally, I'll like to know your definition of the three.
1. Conceptual Niger Delta
2. Geographical Niger Delta
3. Political Niger Delta
Re: Edwin Clark Asks Tinubu To Remove Abia, Imo, Ondo From NDDC by Gajagojo: 11:56am On Oct 26, 2023
Yujin:

Well, going strictly by the Delta formed by the River Niger, not even Rivers state qualifies leaving only Delta and Bayelsa states as the Niger Delta states.
You must understand that Niger Delta as a word could either be geographical which limits it to two states or geopolitical which is more inclusive by adding adjoining areas that are nearby and interconnected by rivers. This is where and how Rivers, Imo and Anambra states can be considered Niger Delta states.
Now, the word Niger Delta is a geopolitical term because it doesn't confine its boundaries to the exact communities in the Delta Wetlands. If it was so, only the whole of Bayelsa and marginal parts of Delta state will be included in it. The whole of Rivers state won't be in it because no tributary of the River Niger passed through it. All the wetlands of Rivers state is as a result of the estuaries formed at the coast which links to rivers flowing upstream into Imo, Abia and Anambra states.

The point is Niger Delta as a geographical term includes only the whole of Bayelsa and marginal parts of Delta state. When you consider it as a geopolitical term, it becomes inclusive of adjoining areas which includes nearby wetlands and rivers including communities near those rivers especially River Niger itself. This is how Rivers, Anambra and Imo states make the cut. No tributary of the River Niger flowed into Rivers state but it has wetlands.
In conclusion, the concept of the Niger Delta being an oil producing territory will ALWAYS be inclusive of adjoining areas that are oil producing even if they are not wetlands. Most of Rivers state oil producing communities are not in its wetlands. Most of them are upland having boundaries with Anambra, Imo and Abia states.

All of this to change the subject instead of admitting that you were wrong in claiming that geographically Anambra and Imo are part of the Niger Delta

We are not discussing any concept of the Niger Delta as an oil producing territory
Why are you so dishonest and unable to simply admit you were wrong

All we have been discussing was a YOUR OWN CLAIM about the GEOGRAPHY OF THE NIGER DELTA and that Anambra and Imo are Geographically part of the Niger Delta . They are not, End of Discussion


You are just desperately trying to sound as if you know what you are talking about when you have no clue whatsoever


RIVERS STATE IS GEOGRAPHICALLY IN THE NIGER DELTA
Nun River , a branch of the River Niger splits into several creeks and freshwater swamps which flow through hundreds of settlements in Rivers state e.g Ogu Bolo to name one

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Re: Edwin Clark Asks Tinubu To Remove Abia, Imo, Ondo From NDDC by Yujin(m): 2:47pm On Oct 26, 2023
Gajagojo:


All of this to change the subject instead of admitting that you were wrong in claiming that geographically Anambra and Imo are part of the Niger Delta

We are not discussing any concept of the Niger Delta as an oil producing territory
Why are you so dishonest and unable to simply admit you were wrong

All we have been discussing was a YOUR OWN CLAIM about the GEOGRAPHY OF THE NIGER DELTA and that Anambra and Imo are Geographically part of the Niger Delta . They are not, End of Discussion


You are just desperately trying to sound as if you know what you are talking about when you have no clue whatsoever


RIVERS STATE IS GEOGRAPHICALLY IN THE NIGER DELTA
Nun River , a branch of the River Niger splits into several creeks and freshwater swamps which flow through hundreds of settlements in Rivers state e.g Ogu Bolo to name one

Lol. Clearly, you don't know what you're talking about.
See you calling Nun River in far away Central Bayelsa having creeks connected to Ogu/Bolo area just below Ogoni territory in the eastern part of Rivers state. You're a stranger to the area and know nothing about it. You can't from the far north know about my area more than me.
I knew you weren't interested in knowing the truth but rather bent on ensuring Igbo isn't associated with the Niger Delta. Unfortunately for you, Ndigbo are part and parcel of the Niger Delta when we speak of it as a geopolitical zone and an oil producing area.

Below is the map of Rivers State and parts of Bayelsa. Can you show me where the Nun River deep inside Bayelsa forms creeks in far away Ogu/Bolo lga?
😂 😂 😂 😂

Re: Edwin Clark Asks Tinubu To Remove Abia, Imo, Ondo From NDDC by Gajagojo: 4:26pm On Oct 26, 2023
Yujin:

Lol. Clearly, you don't know what you're talking about.
See you calling Nun River in far away Central Bayelsa having creeks connected to Ogu/Bolo area just below Ogoni territory in the eastern part of Rivers state. You're a stranger to the area and know nothing about it. You can't from the far north know about my area more than me.
I knew you weren't interested in knowing the truth but rather bent on ensuring Igbo isn't associated with the Niger Delta. Unfortunately for you, Ndigbo are part and parcel of the Niger Delta when we speak of it as a geopolitical zone and an oil producing area.

Below is the map of Rivers State and parts of Bayelsa. Can you show me where the Nun River deep inside Bayelsa forms creeks in far away Ogu/Bolo lga?
😂 😂 😂 😂

The Ogu creek is an extension of The River Niger from its Nun River Branch

That is exactly what we are talking about when we talk about a River delta it means that there are creeks, and fresh water swamps extending from the River
So stop all this silly ranting

A Delta is not a river but a network of Wetlands , creeks Swamps, Marshlands and Mangrove swamps extending for miles around the river

Show us where this is present in Anambra and Imo state as you claimed

Once again can you name one village or Hamlet in Anambra or Imo state that are part of the Niger delta geographically as you claimed

No one forced you to make that silly claim and all these futile efforts to change the narrative WILL NOT WORK

Simple question name one village in Anambra or Imo state that is geographically in the Niger Delta

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Re: Edwin Clark Asks Tinubu To Remove Abia, Imo, Ondo From NDDC by Yujin(m): 4:45pm On Oct 26, 2023
Gajagojo:


The Ogu creek is an extension of The River Niger from its Nun River Branch

That is exactly what we are talking about when we talk about a River delta it means that there are creeks, and fresh water swamps extending from the River
So stop all this silly ranting

A Delta is not a river but a network of Wetlands , creeks Swamps, Marshlands and Mangrove swamps extending for miles around the river

Show us where this is present in Anambra and Imo state as you claimed

Once again can you name one village or Hamlet in Anambra or Imo state that are part of the Niger delta geographically as you claimed

No one forced you to make that silly claim and all these futile efforts to change the narrative WILL NOT WORK

Simple question name one village in Anambra or Imo state that is geographically in the Niger Delta
😂 😂 😂 😂
Even with an image of the area, you're still talking crap. Nun River has no connection whatsoever with far away Ogu Creek. Are you blind?
Rivers state has no business with the tributaries of River Niger. All the rivers inside Rivers state has no connection with the River Niger. You should stop dragging things you know nothing about.
I've listed for you areas in Imo state that are part of the geopolitical Niger Delta and backed it up with pictures. I won't tell you those in Anambra.

Re: Edwin Clark Asks Tinubu To Remove Abia, Imo, Ondo From NDDC by Gajagojo: 4:48pm On Oct 26, 2023
Yujin:

😂 😂 😂 😂
Even with an image of the area, you're still talking crap. Nun River has no connection whatsoever with far away Ogu Creek. Are you blind?
Rivers state has no business with the tributaries of River Niger. All the rivers inside Rivers state has no connection with the River Niger. You should stop dragging things you know nothing about.
I've listed for you areas in Imo state that are part of the geopolitical Niger Delta and backed it up with pictures. I won't tell you those in Anambra.
Name one Hamlet in Imo state or Anambra state that is in the Niger Delta you will not succeed in changing the subject

Will not work

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Re: Edwin Clark Asks Tinubu To Remove Abia, Imo, Ondo From NDDC by Yujin(m): 4:53pm On Oct 26, 2023
Gajagojo:
Name one Hamlet in Imo state or Anambra state that is in the Niger Delta you will not succeed in changing the subject

Will not work
We're back to where we started. I'll leave you now knowing that you've learnt a lot from me already. Next time, don't jump in to discuss what you know nothing about.
Re: Edwin Clark Asks Tinubu To Remove Abia, Imo, Ondo From NDDC by Gajagojo: 4:56pm On Oct 26, 2023
Yujin:

We're back to where we started. I'll leave you now knowing that you've learnt a lot from me already. Next time, don't jump in to discuss what you know nothing about.
We are back to where we started because you made a false claim and have tried to divert away with bullshit
I am too savvy for that

I quoted you because you made a claim that Anambra and Imo are geographically part of the Niger Delta

Can you name one village or hamlet in Imo or Anambra in the Niger Delta

All this bluff and bluster will not work

One name please?

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Re: Edwin Clark Asks Tinubu To Remove Abia, Imo, Ondo From NDDC by Afriifa(m): 5:54pm On Oct 26, 2023
Yujin:

Like I said, think properly again about the implication of insisting that someone adjudged producing lesser amount shouldn't be allowed to head an association. This is because it might turn around to harm you in the future.
The mistake Abians did in that case is as a result of their shallow mindset that I talk about while speaking againt Edwin Clark. A good number of our people still fail to see the bigger picture. All Igbos celebrated our sister and daughter from Abia state who got a big post in far away Canada just last week yet back at home, SOME ABIANS rejected a fellow Igbo man from another state being an official in their city. As you can see, it is a general problem for our collective people and it doesn't speak well of us which needs to be addressed by our visionary leaders. I await to see if Gov. Otti will follow their emotional and misguided outburst or he will appeal to them to give his appointee a chance to prove himself.
Finally, I'll like to know your definition of the three.
1. Conceptual Niger Delta
2. Geographical Niger Delta
3. Political Niger Delta
I see how you have clearly communicated your argument or made your point astutely. Thus, I am bound to offer my reply after a review. First, the statement Pa Clark made is not distortion of facts in a society like Nigeria. If you're opposed to the submission he made, there are clearer, convincing, and more diplomatic approach to make your views known if indeed you clearly reflect the civilisation you are preaching now. I skimmed through the comments that this post generated, and I can confidently argue that neither you, nor any of your brethrens in the South-East possess nor reflect the civilisation you are trying to sell to me now. Rather than even making their displeasure known in a civil way, you and your kins resulted to use derogatory and vile languages against the Elder. I also remember when the Youth wing of your Apex Socio-Cultural Group once insulted this same Clark for commenting on national issues. The problem "you all think is that you're the smartest and the brainest because other nationalities are quiet and restrictive on social-developmental issues". But that's a discussion for another day. Now back to Clark's point.. He didn't wasn't just making empty comments, or passing offending remarks. Clark was premising his viewpoints on the facts that you lots (Imo, Abia etc) were prostesting against the senate's tradition of confirming indigenes of major oil producing states as MDs/Chairman of the Commission. Now, that's really offending and provocative, like how dare you try to kick against the confirmation of such natives as MDs/Chairpersons of the agency? That's why he brought the perfect analogue : Why should a far minority shareholder protest against the confirmation of a major shareholder as MD or Chairman? isn't that offensive? In all facets of equality and equity, you lots are not in a position to protest that. Is greediness. and Pa Clark didn't just say you lots should be removed, he even went as far as suggesting that a similar development agency be created for you minorities to advance your socio-economic interests. So how is that offensive or uncivilised for your cronies to rain insult on him? Back to the last question, the conceptual Niger Delta of oil producing states, the political Niger Delta, is the Niger Delta of Six South-South States. n the Geographical Niger Delta is the Niger Delta of the Six South-South States but arguably with parts of Ondo states like Ose-Odo LGA, Odigbo LGA and co. So in sum, the political Niger Delta is strongly similar with the Geographical Niger Delta. N Let me tell you one thing that you non-Niger Deltans don't know, the Niger Delta is beyond geographical boundaries, and political boundaries. The Niger Delta is a collection of Minority tribes with similar and strong ancestral heritage. From far away Ondo state to Akwa-Ibom they are all related.. For instance, from the Benins, Ikweres, Ijaws, Urhobos, Annang, Efik, ETC. We may have our internal disputes and bring them to public but oga, the Unity we share even as individuals of different tribes, is not measurable to what even the majority tribes like Igbo or Yoruba shares. If I tell you that Bayelsa state has the appointments of Akwa-Ibom indigens you will be shocked. Edo state has the appointment of Delta indigens despite the tribal difference, But Abia man refuse Anambra man despite being the same tribe.. I hope I have taken good time to address your concerns. n let me tell you, the Niger Deltans are political and social conscious of everyone around us. Don't think you can sugarcoat us to believe you.
Re: Edwin Clark Asks Tinubu To Remove Abia, Imo, Ondo From NDDC by Yujin(m): 8:15pm On Oct 26, 2023
Afriifa:
I see how you have clearly communicated your argument or made your point astutely. Thus, I am bound to offer my reply after a review. First, the statement Pa Clark made is not distortion of facts in a society like Nigeria. If you're opposed to the submission he made, there are clearer, convincing, and more diplomatic approach to make your views known if indeed you clearly reflect the civilisation you are preaching now. I skimmed through the comments that this post generated, and I can confidently argue that neither you, nor any of your brethrens in the South-East possess nor reflect the civilisation you are trying to sell to me now. Rather than even making their displeasure known in a civil way, you and your kins resulted to use derogatory and vile languages against the Elder. I also remember when the Youth wing of your Apex Socio-Cultural Group once insulted this same Clark for commenting on national issues. The problem "you all think is that you're the smartest and the brainest because other nationalities are quiet and restrictive on social-developmental issues". But that's a discussion for another day. Now back to Clark's point.. He didn't wasn't just making empty comments, or passing offending remarks. Clark was premising his viewpoints on the facts that you lots (Imo, Abia etc) were prostesting against the senate's tradition of confirming indigenes of major oil producing states as MDs/Chairman of the Commission. Now, that's really offending and provocative, like how dare you try to kick against the confirmation of such natives as MDs/Chairpersons of the agency? That's why he brought the perfect analogue : Why should a far minority shareholder protest against the confirmation of a major shareholder as MD or Chairman? isn't that offensive? In all facets of equality and equity, you lots are not in a position to protest that. Is greediness. and Pa Clark didn't just say you lots should be removed, he even went as far as suggesting that a similar development agency be created for you minorities to advance your socio-economic interests. So how is that offensive or uncivilised for your cronies to rain insult on him? Back to the last question, the conceptual Niger Delta of oil producing states, the political Niger Delta, is the Niger Delta of Six South-South States. n the Geographical Niger Delta is the Niger Delta of the Six South-South States but arguably with parts of Ondo states like Ose-Odo LGA, Odigbo LGA and co. So in sum, the political Niger Delta is strongly similar with the Geographical Niger Delta. N Let me tell you one thing that you non-Niger Deltans don't know, the Niger Delta is beyond geographical boundaries, and political boundaries. The Niger Delta is a collection of Minority tribes with similar and strong ancestral heritage. From far away Ondo state to Akwa-Ibom they are all related.. For instance, from the Benins, Ikweres, Ijaws, Urhobos, Annang, Efik, ETC. We may have our internal disputes and bring them to public but oga, the Unity we share even as individuals of different tribes, is not measurable to what even the majority tribes like Igbo or Yoruba shares. If I tell you that Bayelsa state has the appointments of Akwa-Ibom indigens you will be shocked. Edo state has the appointment of Delta indigens despite the tribal difference, But Abia man refuse Anambra man despite being the same tribe.. I hope I have taken good time to address your concerns. n let me tell you, the Niger Deltans are political and social conscious of everyone around us. Don't think you can sugarcoat us to believe you.
You started well but later diverted to start lumping me with others. I'll excuse and focus on our discussion. An English term has a specific meaning moreso when it is contextualized. As much as you would like to disassociate Igbo with the Niger Delta, you can't because we are the head of the lower Niger ethnic groups. Strictly speaking, only Bayelsa and marginal parts of Delta state are situated exactly in the delta formed by the River Niger. So, geographically speaking, only the Ijaws, Epie-Atissa, Ekpeye and Ogbia people are found there.
Isaac Adaka Boro was from that Delta region and could use it and indeed his Niger Delta was limited to the Ijaws of present day Bayelsa. It's funny how some of you will want to use the word Niger Delta to encompass other distant areas that are not even close to the delta formed by the River Niger. The reason is simply because you want to by all means distant yourselves from Igbos. You can do so but you must use the proper term not one that we all shared before.
Below is the map considered to be core Niger Delta states(even though most parts of Delta and Rivers doesn't fall into the Delta properly).
Edo has no business with Niger Delta geographically and the same goes for Akwa Ibom and Cross river state. It's funny how you went to far away Ondo state even citing Odigbo(Ore area which I know very well) as Niger Delta yet you don't consider Oguta(Imo) where traders paddle their canoes to Abonnema estuary as Niger Delta. Your disdain for ndigbo is obvious but it won't change a thing.

Re: Edwin Clark Asks Tinubu To Remove Abia, Imo, Ondo From NDDC by Afriifa(m): 8:41pm On Oct 26, 2023
Yujin:

You started well but later diverted to start lumping me with others. I'll excuse and focus on our discussion. An English term has a specific meaning moreso when it is contextualized. As much as you would like to disassociate Igbo with the Niger Delta, you can't because we are the head of the lower Niger ethnic groups. Strictly speaking, only Bayelsa and marginal parts of Delta state are situated exactly in the delta formed by the River Niger. So, geographically speaking, only the Ijaws, Epie-Atissa, Ekpeye and Ogbia people are found there.
Isaac Adaka Boro was from that Delta region and could use it and indeed his Niger Delta was limited to the Ijaws of present day Bayelsa. It's funny how some of you will want to use the word Niger Delta to encompass other distant areas that are not even close to the delta formed by the River Niger. The reason is simply because you want to by all means distant yourselves from Igbos. You can do so but you must use the proper term not one that we all shared before.
Below is the map considered to be core Niger Delta states(even though most parts of Delta and Rivers doesn't fall into the Delta properly).
Edo has no business with Niger Delta geographically and the same goes for Akwa Ibom and Cross river state. It's funny how you went to far away Ondo state even citing Odigbo(Ore area which I know very well) as Niger Delta yet you don't consider Oguta(Imo) where traders paddle their canoes to Abonnema estuary as Niger Delta. Your disdain for ndigbo is obvious but it won't change a thing.
You don't want enlightment, you only wanted a base to sell your argument. I will allow you to carry on your delusion till the day of reckoning. Don't say I didn't tell you. I don't need to continue this argument. I laugh at you heavily when you talk Isaac Boro and Limit his struggle to Ijaw Niger Delta and worst Bayelsa state when in fact, Isaac Boro's Niger Delta actually captured Rivers States and the Mid-Western States. You think Niger Delta is Ijaw thing? That's where you all failed. Niger Delta like I told you has conceptual, political and geographical meaning but you ended up focusing on the geography. I even went as far as educating you that it is a collection of minority tribes with close ancestral bond but you also ignored it. From your point of arguments I see that you are not just Igboic but a pro biafran agitator. Let me ask you which of the south-south states or areas that you think will join you? Edo? Delta? Rivers? Bayelsa? Akwa-Ibom? Cross River? Ijaws you see as minorities and insequential will be the most resounding killer of your dreams. The Niger Deltans are never conquered! When Nigeria was juicing the bromace as about Wazobia! What changed now? You must all enjoy the food you were serving the Minorities in Niger Delta. During the civil war we learnt a lot from you Igbos.. In Abonema, is a every year thing. We retell the story our people.suffered in the hands of Biafra soldiers. You'll all live to enjoy the show.

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Re: Edwin Clark Asks Tinubu To Remove Abia, Imo, Ondo From NDDC by Afriifa(m): 8:48pm On Oct 26, 2023
Yujin:

You started well but later diverted to start lumping me with others. I'll excuse and focus on our discussion. An English term has a specific meaning moreso when it is contextualized. As much as you would like to disassociate Igbo with the Niger Delta, you can't because we are the head of the lower Niger ethnic groups. Strictly speaking, only Bayelsa and marginal parts of Delta state are situated exactly in the delta formed by the River Niger. So, geographically speaking, only the Ijaws, Epie-Atissa, Ekpeye and Ogbia people are found there.
Isaac Adaka Boro was from that Delta region and could use it and indeed his Niger Delta was limited to the Ijaws of present day Bayelsa. It's funny how some of you will want to use the word Niger Delta to encompass other distant areas that are not even close to the delta formed by the River Niger. The reason is simply because you want to by all means distant yourselves from Igbos. You can do so but you must use the proper term not one that we all shared before.
Below is the map considered to be core Niger Delta states(even though most parts of Delta and Rivers doesn't fall into the Delta properly).
Edo has no business with Niger Delta geographically and the same goes for Akwa Ibom and Cross river state. It's funny how you went to far away Ondo state even citing Odigbo(Ore area which I know very well) as Niger Delta yet you don't consider Oguta(Imo) where traders paddle their canoes to Abonnema estuary as Niger Delta. Your disdain for ndigbo is obvious but it won't change a thing.
N finally, there are lots of information I can't share because I know you lots. Even your Image although not sufficient, betrays your point because you only mentioned Ijaws as Niger Delta.. But you see rivers states, as well as delta states n bayelsa there. but den Goodluck.. I know ur types.. Enjoy..

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Re: Edwin Clark Asks Tinubu To Remove Abia, Imo, Ondo From NDDC by Yujin(m): 3:21am On Oct 27, 2023
Afriifa:
You don't want enlightment, you only wanted a base to sell your argument. I will allow you to carry on your delusion till the day of reckoning. Don't say I didn't tell you. I don't need to continue this argument. I laugh at you heavily when you talk Isaac Boro and Limit his struggle to Ijaw Niger Delta and worst Bayelsa state when in fact, Isaac Boro's Niger Delta actually captured Rivers States and the Mid-Western States. You think Niger Delta is Ijaw thing? That's where you all failed. Niger Delta like I told you has conceptual, political and geographical meaning but you ended up focusing on the geography. I even went as far as educating you that it is a collection of minority tribes with close ancestral bond but you also ignored it. From your point of arguments I see that you are not just Igboic but a pro biafran agitator. Let me ask you which of the south-south states or areas that you think will join you? Edo? Delta? Rivers? Bayelsa? Akwa-Ibom? Cross River? Ijaws you see as minorities and insequential will be the most resounding killer of your dreams. The Niger Deltans are never conquered! When Nigeria was juicing the bromace as about Wazobia! What changed now? You must all enjoy the food you were serving the Minorities in Niger Delta. During the civil war we learnt a lot from you Igbos.. In Abonema, is a every year thing. We retell the story our people.suffered in the hands of Biafra soldiers. You'll all live to enjoy the show.
Lol. Afriifa, you'll never change. I guess we should leave it at that then. Like my people will say, 'agbasia oso, agua mile'. May God keep us alive to see how all these will end.
Talking about Isaac Adaka Boro, you're clear ignorant of his exploits. His only theatre of fighting was in the Eastern region. How then did he capture the Mid-Western region? All his fighting was in the creeks that was unfamiliar to those who used him. After he had cleared the way for them, they wasted him and disbanded his army even though the war was still on-going. The atrocities he committed against his own people in the pursuit of helping those controlling the resources today will be revealed in due time. The rate of degeneration is really appalling; from fighting for resource control to accepting the job of pipeline guards will be told to future generations. Ken Saro-Wiwa who followed in his footsteps later saw his folly and requested help from the same person he had been disparaging but it was already too late.

I for one don't see anyone as inconsequential in any scheme of things and will always welcome anyone I have a shared history and possible aspiration. If that person refuses to see the bigger picture, I'll let him be and relate with him the way that he deserves.
Enjoy your motorboy status while it lasts. Your children will ask you the wisdom surrounding your current folly. Continue celebrating your servitude at Abonnema. As the economy shrinks further, those controlling the resources will become more greedy and it is your people that will suffer the consequences more. Whatever our complain is, our situation is still far better than what you have. Our tentacles for wealth creation and accumulation has been divested to far corners of the world unlike you lots. Let me stop here.
I wish you and your people the best because I harbour no ill feeling for them. You on the otherhand can't say the same because the feelings aren't the same.
Re: Edwin Clark Asks Tinubu To Remove Abia, Imo, Ondo From NDDC by Fortruth: 3:27am On Oct 27, 2023
Funny enough that demented man did not even coin the word Nigeria nor Niger Delta...

British criminal ranks coined both words, with Niger Delta referring to OWERRI (OWERE), where Shell Oil first located its base... LOL


Everyone wants to attack Igbo and get applauded... That's fine... After sometime the hand clapping must stop and you must go and poop wettin you chop...


He will go to judgement soon, and in 10 years his people will forget him like they have forgotten all the "Niegr Delta" trouble makers like Sara Wiwa.... that sided with the devil and thought they were going to Japa after the deal went rogue

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