qtx:

Stay mute. You have no power to condemn any of them except you God.

Ode which God, is it the one you kept in your house?.

anslemarinze52:
That's their problem.... They always wanna make you look so dumb. To an extent you can't think creatively.
The church, bible, God and holy spirit are all rubbish. None are genuine.
I will stil prove my statement right. Lol church go far o.

And from your moniker, you are supposed to be a Christian, right?

DaddyJapan:
And right there it is - an unremorseful and unrepentant faith-based cult.
Even now, Joshua's adherents are still peddling lies and hifalutin claims that have been thoroughly discredited.

I suppose a cult is like a hydra which grows new heads when you cut off old ones.
The way only way to bring about permanent closure is to remove its blood supply.

Image source: ‘Abusive’ legacy of Nigerian megachurch boss lives on from Lagos to London

Exactly same reason book haram and islamic terrorist ain't ending soon, hydra headed religious fanatics

The more you expose the cunning act of this pastors the more fierce their supporters defend them

Aspayastudenthu:
I think this response is aggressive and harsh. As one YouTube commenter said - let the viewers make up their assertions based on the video. Responses should not attack the BBC but should share more light in counter to those claims.

They didn't even address the issue. They couldn't address the issues just out right dismissal. Lol

anslemarinze52:

Ode which God, is it the one you kept in your house?.

I will not argue with you sir. Enjoy your ignorance. It's sweet.

IAMBOSS1990:

If they like, let them call him the antichrist, they are not talking to me, my ear don block tey tey. My spirit and that man's spirit is intertwined. Do what ever you like with that info. May God bless the ministry of senior prophet TB Joshua.

Follow God and not man

Daystar7:


And what about the millions that have good things to say? Their opinion don't count cos it doesn't agree to ur perception of the man and do not share in ur hatred? Get a life Man

He was dying and he was taken to the hospital but same man preached when one is sick they should be brought to the church?.
Why wasn't he taken to a fellow church?
It was Great he died at all, that's he was of escaping all these allegations.

Next is Chris of Christ Embassy, he's fellows won't leave me alone na by force to go to church?. Once lil money starts flowing in evil spirits are monitoring.

CheedyJ:
Follow God and not man

OK Sir.

ReacherSaidNoth:
A very poor defense. How can you say the accusers are unknown to the church when there's literally video evidence of their time there?

In other words, "nothing dey happen". Quite shameful though

Anybody read that documentry and believe it, hook line and sinker, just know something is wrong with you and ur brain needs to be checked.

U just interviewed a random people with no single evident to back it up.

Someone claiming he was one of disciples yet, he didn't show any proof to back it up. All the current and former disciples, I think we know them and their tie with TB Joshua.

Mummyfour:
My late mother who had cancer went to his church and she had bitter experiences. she died few months later. even before then, I had followed that man's ministry and I knew it wasn't real. it takes he who has the spirit of God to discern real from fake

Secondly, my junior in school then was conscripted into his fold. We didn't see her for a long time. Few years later we ran into her, and she told us with fear in her eyes that she had been in TB Joshua 's church. We ran into her at okokomaoko in Lagos. We asked her if she was going to come back to school, but she said no. We felt she wanted to tell us a lot of things, but we noticed she couldn't, like she was afraid or something.

2 years ago, my friend in Texas called me to say he had reconnected with her, because growing up, they were neighbors and she confided in him everything that was going on there. It was heartbreaking. Her parents were aware but because TB was assisting them financially, they turned blind eyes to her ordeals
She said she was abused in every way you can imagine. She is free now and has started learning hair dressing.
She told me friend in Texas a lot stories of what goes on there. My friend was happy when he heard Joshua had died. Infact he called me to confirm his death. Some of us in Lagos knew what was going on, but people were just afraid to talk or were basically leaving in self denial. J
So for people saying why are people coming out now to talk, I will refer you to the documentary of Jim Jones, Asahara and a lot of other church like cults.
Most of the survivors only speak at the death or arrest of their masters because they have been manipulated into silence.
My late mother told me that a lot of fakery was going on there and she had to throw away his miracle water she bought in anger. She made a lot of feeble attempt to tell people what her experiences were, but most people felt she was lying because she was not healed.

She actually went to synagogue without telling me because she knew I would have raised hell because I had been following that man s ministry and knew it was the more you look the less you see.

Please let's all know that there's always an iolta of truth in some rumours.
If you didn't see or experience some certain ills in that church, don't draw conclusion that he was perfect.
I remember the day that Chris okotie went live on air on DBN TV to call out TB Joshua. He was yelling and telling of his spiritual battles with TB. Eventually DBN had to cut off that live program because it was raw and harsh. Even after that interview he still kept granting interviews in the print media and also had issues with Chris oyakhilome because okotie couldn't understand why oyakhilome was aligning with Joshua.

The men of God in Nigeria knew things about that man and that was why they kept him at arms length. He didn't even have a relationship with the most liberal of them haba!!.

People knew when he was a white garment hchurch goer and also a herbalist my brother in-law ran into someone that knew him closely and people really could not contain their shock when all of a sudden he became a pastor of a mega church, just like that from no where?.
And what came out of the collapse of his building where souls were lost?, He gave a story of his building being shot down by ALIENS or what?😅

So whatever it is, don't always disbelieve people. But above all, have a personal relationship with God and like Jesus said even you can do greater works of healing and deliverance. You don't need to depend on a mortal. You can have a greater grace to do exploits if you walk in righteousness with God.
I am not passing judgement on him.
May God have mercy on him, on me and everyone that has offended our Heavenly father in any way. Nobody is perfect

So everyone that goes to church for whatever reason get answers at that instant? You said a lot of he said, she said, reached a conclusion on the basis of she tell me say, he tell me say and then concluded with "I'm not passing judgement" You sound like a borderline retard. Why not get ur own personal relationship with God right and ask him to reveal the truth to you since u want him crucified so bad u wish whatever is said of him is true to satisfy ur hatred.

qtx:

And from your moniker, you are supposed to be a Christian, right?

I was delivered my brother, a time will come you'll have a change of mind. When you channel your mind to see the evil and deception this people are practicing and at the same way telling not to doubt them. Why shouldn't I doubt?
No one is called by their fucking God, get it right.

I can wake up tomorrow and proclaim myself a pastor, with the intentions to command a large congregation of followers, that'll be worshipping and moving me higher.

Judging the dead , wickedness and manipulative system I'm shocked such a source people rely on can compromise the truth it shows news is just all about negativity,

If really you want a documentary what happens to our leaders who you are suppose to expose , the main hardship in the country and your fake news on war countries.

God pass una BBC

TB Joshua is a positive man even from distance you can feel the love

It's not about religion but has a person he's a man of Love .

We all know the problem we face let's try to appreciate good people so more good ones will arise .

What a world the theives walk freely and the innocent suffer.

Something you can't do in your own country don't dare it with Nigerians and in Nigeria let our people breath we don't need controversy anymore . We just want to love ourself and see the brighter side out of this times .

I am still convinced of TB Joshua's guilt

Truth is a slow mover, but it will surely arrive destination... we expect them to put up a defence, but not such a weak one...
Sequel to this BBC documentary. Has [many teachers not used the bible as a reference] to tell us about this man? We do not have to be daft. The documentary is very convincing and the remnant of his followers should put up better defence. Revelation 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. Though, I beg to concur that many here are novices to spiritual matter.

CheedyJ:

Follow God and not man

Lol.. what's the difference?
God is man-made things. Since 1650, the world is coming to an end up till now. Lol see brainwashing.
Me self I was imagining myself burning in hell fire then..lol. when you die, you've died.
Nothing concerns you anymore, though life could be deeper through incarnation.

wirinet:




These allegations are not new. In fact these allegations have been in the media for close to 10 years. Paul Agomoh who was his number 2 man and started the ministry with him made these allegations when the fell out about 8 years ago. Bisola also came out to speak publicly about how she was raped and how T.B. Joshua raped three little sisters along with other girls in 2016 or thereabout, TB Joshua sheep came for her head then. So it's a surprise that his sheep are behaving as if they just heard these allegations.

Sheep will always be sheep.

Do you see me defend him? No matter how many the allegations are, they remain allegations because he wasn't charged to court while alive therefore he can't be pronounced guilty or even innocent.

If you're too dumb to read and understand, SHUT your b*tchass up Mr.

I watched it. It wasn’t comprehensive. If they actually started the investigation while he was alive, why couldn’t we have his image, videos or voice notes while carrying out the acts? At least one or two. Give us en evidential proof to corroborate your investigation. Anyone can come out to say anything but why don’t they have real proofs? Don’t they use phones in the church? He couldn’t be so perfect. Where are the so called virgins? If they were many like they said, the woman who said she was the one providing the virgins should have bought about 5 virgins to testify.

A woman from SOUTH Africa said he threatened them after he tried to gag them with money because their daughter died in his collapsed building. She claimed he sent a threatening voice note to her. She played the voice note the voice note only asked her to accept the will of God since there’s nothing they could do to bring her back.

The other man claimed he was the one doing his dirty jobs but couldn’t bring up real evidences than talking about pictures and swords! Meh! Bullshits.
Others claimed that TB sent hired assassins to kill them but they missed their targets— hahaha. A while TB Joshua with all the money would d a botched killing of ordinary people. And all of you he planned to kill would escape. Haba! If he’s truly a devil he pulls never miss killing those guys.

The documentary is a junk.

Disclaimer: I am not God and can’t say who TB JOSHUA was. But that documentary wasn’t the best a whole BBC should have come up with.

[quote author=God1000 post=127855708]What is BBC looking for now? They should allow the dead man to rest, he can't defend himself do you allowed Muhammad and Jesus?

Religion has affected so many people that they could know. See Africa headquarters of religious body, see poverty. Compare UK and Nigeria, compare Canada and Nigeria, compare us, Australia and Nigeria. Religion has done so much damage to Africans mentally than the government. I was thinking of them banning religion but how the so called men called by their so called God gonna feed. Taking advantages of the foolish ones.
I became foolish to an extent my whole gain in my business for a whole week, i took it to church and submitted it. When my business was shaking I went and met the Pastors lol. These people let Me know they invest their money, that they don't spend any how. Guy since then, I felt bad but never shown it to them. I never paid offering, I take care of myself and run from any unnecessary disturbance.

[quote author=God1000 post=127855708]What is BBC looking for now? They should allow the dead man to rest, he can't defend himself do you allowed Muhammad and Jesus to rest?

Fiscus105:
Anybody read that documentry and believe it, hook line and sinker, just know something is wrong with you and ur brain needs to be checked.

U just interviewed a random people with no single evident to back it up.

Someone claiming he was one of disciples yet, he didn't show any proof to back it up. All the current and former disciples, I think we know them and their tie with TB Joshua.

You brain needs to be donated to science so we can study your amazing stupidity. You must have watched the documentary with a blindfold if your take away is that they are random people with no link to the church.

What is BBC looking for now? They should allow the dead man to rest, he can't defend himself do you allowed Muhammad and Jesus to rest?

anslemarinze52:


I was delivered my brother, a time will come you'll have a change of mind. When you channel your mind to see the evil and deception this people are practicing and at the same way telling not to doubt them. Why shouldn't I doubt?
No one is called by their fucking God, get it right.

I can wake up tomorrow and proclaim myself a pastor, with the intentions to command a large congregation of followers, that'll be worshipping and moving me higher.

Do you believe there is God and Jesus Christ came to save humanity? That is the most important thing. You can't say because some people of the world are not doing it right by your judgement, so therefore, you will end up not recognizing God. Must people be the ones to determine your relationship with God? Why do you see only those who are doing it wrongly? haven't you found one single person that you feel is doing it right and being encouraged by that alone?

anslemarinze52:
Religion has affected so many people that they could know. See Africa headquarters of religious body, see poverty. Compare UK and Nigeria, compare Canada and Nigeria, compare us, Australia and Nigeria. Religion has done so much damage to Africans mentally than the government. I was thinking of them banning religion but how the so called men called by their so called God gonna feed. Taking advantages of the foolish ones.
I became foolish to an extent my whole gain in my business for a whole week, i took it to church and submitted it. When my business was shaking I went and met the Pastors lol. These people let Me know they invest their money, that they don't spend any how. Guy since then, I felt bad but never shown it to them. I never paid offering, I take care of myself and run from any unnecessary disturbance.

They'll still brainwash you not to doubt them that doubting them is bad. Why
And you think these motherfuckers don't know what's up and the truth before entering into it. Lol.
They don't want you to know the truth, you'll fall sick they'll ask you to come to church, they'll fall Sick and go get special treatment by doctors.
Oyedepo bough jet and he's followers are trekking to church submitting the little 200(that 20 people will gather and by things to cook to eat) you still think they don't know what's up.
The more you go to church the more, they seem to enter into your thinkings. So be wise, I learnt the hard way In the church, they are evil.
Use the time to be waiting and expecting a miracle to work harder, connect with people above your levels and let your mind think positive.

victorazy:


Since Africa refused to wake up.

Don't you know that this propaganda is a fight against Nigeria and Africa and we are buying the idea? Do you know that SCOAN stands as avenue for foreign exchange, tourist hub of Nigeria? These are the things they are fighting to stop. Fear white.

Honestly I really don't know who or what to believe at the moment.
How lucky or smart could he have been?
But 75 percent of the comments I re

victorazy:


Since Africa refused to wake up.

Don't you know that this propaganda is a fight against Nigeria and Africa and we are buying the idea? Do you know that SCOAN stands as avenue for foreign exchange, tourist hub of Nigeria? These are the things they are fighting to stop. Fear white.

Honestly I really don't know who or what to believe at the moment.
How lucky or smart could he have been?
But about 75 percent of the comments I read on the YouTube video documentary were still saying good things about their personal encounter with him.
Something is not just right.

If you stay at home that you want to pray to God for food. My brother you'll pray and tire nothing will come. But when you go out and work without praying, you'll be paid for your work and there you can see food to eat. So be wise. It's as simple.

The church wants to control everything about you and that's why when you don't give them that chance they seem to hate you, or become angry. The worst person to work with is the type that does churchy things lol.
They'll be using and be preaching the word of God to u.

qtx:

Do you believe there is God and Jesus Christ came to save humanity? That is the most important thing. You can't say because some people of the world are not doing it right by your judgement, so therefore, you will end up not recognizing God. Must people be the ones to determine your relationship with God? Why do you see only those who are doing it wrongly? haven't you found one single person that you feel is doing it right and being encouraged by that alone?

I don't believe in any fucking God or Jesus. None of them.
Ohh you self want to enter into my thinkings lol.

They have removed the thread from the frontpage, didn't get the support they wanted?

The people preaching repentance and forgiveness, turning around to abuse people because the narrative didn't go there way...

dazzlingd:


You know better source of foreign exchange. ? Na church be your own foreign exchange??

Coconut head!

What do Israel feeds on?
Pilgrimage, religious tourism.

Every week, do you know how many people from round the world that troop in Lagos Nigeria for SOAN?
Do you know how much naira can be bought from diff currencies of the world?
Do you know the exposure the thing is giving Nigeria?
Do you know how much they generate through accommodation?
Do you know how much TB Joshua gave back to some countries as charity for what SCOAN is benefitting from them?

Come let me lecture you.
U no sabi anything.