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Re: Can't Send Dollars To Nigeria Any More by Tareq1105: 1:53pm On Feb 09
Diligence:
Guz: just 5 tots:

1. How does this policy help paucity of forex?
2. The forex inflows from Western Union, MoneyGram, WorldRemit & co drastically affect the dearth of forex?
3. Didn't Buhari & Emefiele try something similar by stopping payment of school fees, but they had a rethink?
4. Is this what renewed hope abi na shege?
5. How productive is Nigerian economy to withstand the multiplicity effects?

Be calming down.
Re: Can't Send Dollars To Nigeria Any More by Hohaiiiode(m): 1:54pm On Feb 09
anonymous1759:



Are you sure you’re not a BATist? It’s rare to see people reason out of the box because of election loss .
Right now everything is all about hated and bile , when South Africa scored they said it was Shetima that caused that goal that his presence was bad Energy , that Obi watched Nigeria and we won . After Nigeria won they became dumb.
It cost a thing to reason properly in Nigeria at the moment if you dare say this In public you might get attacked.
is there any shame to say I am Tinubus supporter if I was ? But that shouldn’t blind me to hate on a policy I see might turn positive , at least so I pray. The elections are over , even though I had a whole lot of reservations but at this point, the best we can do is support and criticize when necessary.

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Re: Can't Send Dollars To Nigeria Any More by Coldspice: 1:54pm On Feb 09
CatchMeIfUCanMO:

The same black market their minions are claiming they want to eradicate?

I expect you to be enlightened and educated, and if my expectations are right, why will you want to enjoy the rate of black market when according to some people here that is the main target of the policy?

Think bro, think!

They are eradicating BDCs, not the black market. BDCs are a part of the black market, not the whole thing. In every economy, you have the black market. Your Binance and P2P sellers are part of the black market.

The BDCs have bitten the nail, others will follow. Today's rate on GTB is 1,350. How much is the dollar on the street?

Connect your fingers to your brain before posting.
Re: Can't Send Dollars To Nigeria Any More by Goodnewsforlife: 1:54pm On Feb 09
inosuke:

It like you are mad ni, what do other people wants concern another person reserves
see this illiterate

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Re: Can't Send Dollars To Nigeria Any More by airsaylongcome: 1:57pm On Feb 09
Throwback:
Very good!
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Next is to ensure domiciliary accounts only get credited with foreign currencies from international transfer to cater for those who work rotations abroad or those who work remotely, and once the account is credited, any amount beyond a certain threshold should be converted to Naira, while whatever is left should be taxed at a monthly rate that ensures that the money is reduced to half of what was left as a foreign currency in the domiciliary account. That will help discourage any plan to retain forex as a means to store wealth in the domiciliary account

What is the problem with storing wealth in USD to retain value? In 2018, I lost my well paying job and was left with a “huge” amount of over 2m in RSA. Today that 2m is worthless compared to what I could have done with it in 2018. There’s absolutely no need to go after foreign remote workers with your proposal. Otherwise, many would hold their money in offshore accounts using apps like Wise or Payoneer to the detriment of the banking system here

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Re: Can't Send Dollars To Nigeria Any More by bdon12: 1:57pm On Feb 09
Hx1x:
Just got this email from WorldRemit.

Seems CBN has quietly re-introduced their policy where people abroad can no longer send foriegn currency directly to folks in Nigeria. Folks in Nigeria now can only receive the naira equivalent of the money sent.

I've checked Western Union and seems to be the same as well. Moneygram still allows dollars to be sent, but can only be picked up. Can't send to a dorm account any more.

I have checked and haven't seen any news on this.
Have u tried sending via dorm account?
Re: Can't Send Dollars To Nigeria Any More by CatchMeIfUCanMO: 1:58pm On Feb 09
Throwback:


Healthcare is a right and should not be limited.

Tertiary education is not a right.

Yes, healthcare services in Nigeria is a right or should be a right, just as education is a right and not healthcare trips overseas. Be wise please!

Are there no hospitals in Nigeria for them to use?
Do you know how much health sector takes from the country's yearly budget, including the aso villa's own?

The funny thing is you may not be able to afford any of the two services, so your comment or opinion is borne out of jealousy and axx licking respectively for the two services.

A glaring hypocrisy but because it affects your paymasters, you're cool with it.
Had it been you are wise, you will know many Nigerian health workers have left the country and many more, but that wouldn't be the case if the health sector is put in shape.

Truly, you folks don't reason right.

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Re: Can't Send Dollars To Nigeria Any More by bdon12: 1:58pm On Feb 09
Coldspice:


They are eradicating BDCs, not the black market. BDCs are a part of the black market, not the whole thing. In every economy, you have the black market. Your Binance and P2P sellers are part of the black market.

The BDCs have bitten the nail, others will follow. Today's rate on GTB is 1,350. How much is the dollar on the street?
1450 I sold today

Connect your fingers to your brain before posting.
Re: Can't Send Dollars To Nigeria Any More by Throwback: 1:59pm On Feb 09
airsaylongcome:


What is the problem with storing wealth in USD to retain value? In 2018, I lost my well paying job and was left with a “huge” amount of over 2m in RSA. Today that 2m is worthless compared to what I could have done with it in 2018. There’s absolutely no need to go after foreign remote workers with your proposal. Otherwise, many would hold their money in offshore accounts using apps like Wise or Payoneer to the detriment of the banking system here

What made it worthless?

No be exchange rate and currency speculation?

My proposal will help fight such situation.

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Re: Can't Send Dollars To Nigeria Any More by Ate247(m): 2:00pm On Feb 09
Tareq1105:


Source your dollars from wherever and go study anywhere you like but Tinubu would not tolerate forex recklessness anymore.
the same Tinubu that and his cronies that stock dollars in various accounts all over the world abi. Be deceiving your self. Keep letting politician fooling you. Na people wey no get sense them dey fool.
Re: Can't Send Dollars To Nigeria Any More by Bluearrow: 2:01pm On Feb 09
Tareq1105:


It would work. China would not allow dollars pass through their airports.

Same goes for Russia and others bcoz they have a responsibility to protect their currency.

Why are you idiots against protection of our currency?
I hope your govt will also build industries, improve power supply & security like those countries u mentioned? Getting a stable economy has little to do with forceful conversion of people's reserve. But more to do with production & export. These countries u mentioned are doing well in those areas, reason their economy is stable. A country that can't boast of one functional refinery or 24 hours power supply is very far from economy stability. Not to talk of the high rate of corruption & insecurity.

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Re: Can't Send Dollars To Nigeria Any More by GeneralDae: 2:02pm On Feb 09
mailemy:
Can someone explain to me the effect this policy will have on the black market exchange people?
In the past, CBN normally had their rate which was way lesser than the black market rate.

Anyone sending money to Nigeria would not want to send to Nigeria at 900 naira when there is a black market rate that is higher at 1400 already. So the likes of Sendwave. lemfi, etc were bypassing the official banks and storing dollars sent by diaspora in offshore accounts while they ensured their rates were closer to the black market rates.

What Cardoso has done now is take things back to what they were before 2020 COVID when Emiefele started changing things and when Shonobi in 2023 added another complexity to it with 2.5% cap (plus and minus).

Cardoso has brought the official exchange rate closer to the black market again.
Official rate as at yesterday = 1474
Black market rate as at yesterday = 1482
With this, apps can send money home to the Banks and official market and get it at a rate close to the black market and would not have to play Hankey pancky.

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Re: Can't Send Dollars To Nigeria Any More by airsaylongcome: 2:03pm On Feb 09
Throwback:


What made it worthless?

No be exchange rate and currency speculation?

My proposal will help fight such situation.

It became worthless because the economy tanked. Horrible and poorly thought out economic policy by the ruling party is what resulted in the over 500% devaluation of the currency. Restricting inflow of USD from remote work is inimical. Loads of remote workers convert their USD into Naira and spend it locally, ultimately improving the local economy. Talking from personal experience

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Re: Can't Send Dollars To Nigeria Any More by Calitoscassius(m): 2:05pm On Feb 09
realubani:


This is very good if and only if it will fix our economy.
But i doubt it would fix the economy.
Re: Can't Send Dollars To Nigeria Any More by CatchMeIfUCanMO: 2:06pm On Feb 09
Coldspice:


They are eradicating BDCs, not the black market. BDCs are a part of the black market, not the whole thing. In every economy, you have the black market. Your Binance and P2P sellers are part of the black market.

The BDCs have bitten the nail, others will follow. Today's rate on GTB is 1,350. How much is the dollar on the street?

Connect your fingers to your brain before posting.

You need wis dom.

In your stew peadity, you forgot you talked about rate in your previous comment but here you are talking about a part of the system and you sound more stew pead when you mentioned BDCs singly and overlooked the black market rate.
And you think BDCs alone control black market rate?

Do you have sen se at all?
Why are they targeting black market if not to eradicate black market rate?
What is the purpose of targeting black market if the black market rate is not affected or stopped or controlled?

See person wey I dey follow argue, omoh!

If you are wise, you will know the rate will still exist as long as parts of the system exists, so the main goal of the policy is to eradicate the rate. Please be wise!

That being said, you need to enlighten yourself, no be me collect your school fees abeg.

Same gaining #50 and losing #200 movement of the currency is what you are celebrating.

Anyway, I'm not even against anything that will stabilize the economy and the currency because I am a stakeholder.
Re: Can't Send Dollars To Nigeria Any More by Calitoscassius(m): 2:06pm On Feb 09
This is a rubbish idea, but let's see how this rubbish idea would change anything in Naigeeria. Only time will tell.

American dollars are used in Zimbabwe as their national currency yet their economy is shit, people are hungry, jobless and the prices of commodities are very high.

The dollar is not the problem, unproduction of local good to export is the problem.

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Re: Can't Send Dollars To Nigeria Any More by Montaque(m): 2:07pm On Feb 09
Tareq1105:


Thanks for your observations.

I'm just in support of any Policy that would save Nigeria from turning to Venezuela.

1. We need to produce locally. Tackle security so that farmers can go to farm. Role out credit for farmers and introduce policies that encourage everyone to farm. OBJ did it when civil servants were forced to own a garden or farm cooperatives.

2. Stabilise electric supply, especially to industries. We need to ramp up our production lines to the point of sufficiency. Introduce new industries (till now, we don't have companies that produce computers, phones, electronics). Let us produce in mass.

3. Those things that we produce locally, lets us ban their importation. As of today, we should stop importation of footwear and already-made-clothes because we produce them here. I was surprised that okirika sellers are also looking for $ to buy bale of clothes, whereas we can make them locally.

These are my thoughts. What the CBN is doing now is treating symptoms, instead of the disease. Because if they succeed, the three items above will still drag people to be looking for $ to buy goods from abroad, instead of locally producing it.

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Re: Can't Send Dollars To Nigeria Any More by Ate247(m): 2:09pm On Feb 09
[quote author=Throwback post=128368911]

Yes it is not by force.

So relocate abroad, earn money from abroad, then use it to study abroad.

Nigerian economy should not be subsidising and standardising UK or Canadian universities.

Let Nigerian money work for Nigerian infrastructures.[/quote. Your Nigerian certificate is almost worthless even in your country. It wasn't like this 20years ago. But tribalism won't let you see anything. You senators are buying cars worth millions of dollars with tax payers money. You can't start from there. You are talking about getting quality education elsewhere. Your governor, senators, house members children school outside Nigeria. Keep deceiving yourself. Rubbish.
Re: Can't Send Dollars To Nigeria Any More by justmondris: 2:10pm On Feb 09
Hx1x:
Just got this email from WorldRemit.

Seems CBN has quietly re-introduced their policy where people abroad can no longer send foriegn currency directly to folks in Nigeria. Folks in Nigeria now can only receive the naira equivalent of the money sent.

I've checked Western Union and seems to be the same as well. Moneygram still allows dollars to be sent, but can only be picked up. Can't send to a dorm account any more.

I have checked and haven't seen any news on this.

Please send your money to them via USDT on Binance and let them sell it via Binance P2P at a better exchange rate than what the banks are offering.

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Re: Can't Send Dollars To Nigeria Any More by Willie2015: 2:13pm On Feb 09
Acidosis:


In Nigeria, tough times require tough measures ONLY against the common man.

Politicians will always have their way. If I may ask though, why are you against globalisation? The world is a global village now. You can't box people.

It is a good policy....
which will affect elites and politicians too.....
I use a foreign app for forex trading ....
They collect Naira via my bank ...
and credit my account with USD for trading...
Same process also at withdrawal...
they convert USD and credit my account with Naira...
I have no business with physical USD cash...
Next policy is to enable Naira cards for global payment

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Re: Can't Send Dollars To Nigeria Any More by LORDKing001: 2:13pm On Feb 09
Throwback:


That is how it is in many countries.

They don't even have what we term a domiciliary account.

The bank accounts are designed to receive foreign currencies that are either automatically converted to local currency, or that are kept as incoming foreign funds that cannot serve any purpose until it is converted for inflow into the local economy or returned as international transaction outflow.
They should open d naira card to shop online

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Re: Can't Send Dollars To Nigeria Any More by blesboi(m): 2:13pm On Feb 09
if someone from America want to send me u Money fa?
Re: Can't Send Dollars To Nigeria Any More by drealcivilceno(m): 2:16pm On Feb 09
Throwback:
The next step is to outlaw forex processing for foreign education for a minimum of 10yrs.

Any Nigerian that wants to be educated abroad should look for the money abroad.

We have schools here that can take those huge amounts of Naira we employ to buy forex for UK or American or Canadian education.

We need to jump-start our tertiary education system with better infrastructure, improved quality of education, improved salaries, and improved school fees.

Tough times require tough measures.


You don try
Re: Can't Send Dollars To Nigeria Any More by tnerro1(m): 2:17pm On Feb 09
Throwback:
The next step is to outlaw forex processing for foreign education for a minimum of 10yrs.

Any Nigerian that wants to be educated abroad should look for the money abroad.

We have schools here that can take those huge amounts of Naira we employ to buy forex for UK or American or Canadian education.

We need to jump-start our tertiary education system with better infrastructure, improved quality of education, improved salaries, and improved school fees.

Tough times require tough measures.


Why not start with medical tourism the politicians like alot

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Re: Can't Send Dollars To Nigeria Any More by tfelicityk(m): 2:18pm On Feb 09
I am very happy this is happening in Nigeria. All this intimidation will be put to check.

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Re: Can't Send Dollars To Nigeria Any More by kenmaro: 2:19pm On Feb 09
chopnaira:
I got the email too. I remember Buhari and Emefiele had similar policy.
Re: Can't Send Dollars To Nigeria Any More by hafeeanubasy: 2:20pm On Feb 09
theredaddy:



Stop spewing gibberish ! How many world leaders are Business men

Leadership is all about directing "People" and regulating the affairs relative to people ...

You seem to be ignorant about many things, there are traders and there entrepreneurs .... traders are limited to market, buy and selling commodity while entrepreneur compasses invention, job creation, selling of goods and "Services"
Except you are high on cheap weed you can't tell me your side has more entrepreneurs than SW, google is there but regardless

Leadership and business acumen are on different pedestal, people learn trading but leaders are born and chosen

Lastly you hardly see countries run purely socialist economy, in a country with full blown greed and get rich quick syndrome Nigeria is not matured for "capitalist", for instance Dangote expliotation is a good example we can't go capitalist.

A mix economy is capable of upscaling production where there is intent and willingness

We share the same world view on developing nations economy.
Re: Can't Send Dollars To Nigeria Any More by Sirianese: 2:20pm On Feb 09
BitterTruth01:
Lol look at them

This is why you 9-5 job workers should stick to civil service and farming and let capitalists run the economy .

You people from that side are naturally not entrepreneurs . You have no idea how to run a business , how will you run a country ?

Stick to your salary Jobs, you say no
Stick to farming , you say no
Stick to your carpentry and artisanal businesses. , you no gree .

You say you must run the country. Say you dey sophisticated. But you think a country can grow under a socialist system of welfare benefits , and government patronage and control . A palliative economy while free enterprise suffers .

Instead of turning the country into a production. base , na to dey shook eye for other people money. Is that the best you can do ? I dont blame you tho. You cannot give what you don’t have .

But go and do your research, those countries that went the way of Karl Max and Lenin , where dem dey now ?










Yuck!

Your ignorance and stupidity stink to the highest heavens
Re: Can't Send Dollars To Nigeria Any More by naijaboy756: 2:21pm On Feb 09
Tareq1105:


Tinubu would not fold his hands and watch Nigeria turn to Venezuela.

Do you see anyone spend dollars in China or Russia?

At the airport, your dollars are converted to Yuan. After transactions and you're leaving China, you get whatever Yuan left on you converted back at the airport, your point of departure.

It's only in Nigeria that you see dollars everywhere at parties. Obi Cubana should watch it. Dollars is not a legal tender in Nigeria. That's the position of the Economic Team.

Tinubu has a responsibility to protect the Naira, our currency from going into extinction.
Nine months he has been *hassing * this responsibility. No tangible result. He seems confused even more than his team. Thought he said it is TEAMSHIP cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy

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Re: Can't Send Dollars To Nigeria Any More by hafeeanubasy: 2:21pm On Feb 09
weslay:


Why float the Naira and go behind to place restrictions to demand and supply? They can place all the restrictions they can come up with, but the demand will not go away. Because they themselves don't spend Naira. Do you think the president pays Naira for his medical trips overseas, or do you think the payment for Aisha Tinubu's recent birthday party on the island of Greneda was paid in Naira?

Who is Aisha Tinubu..it seems you IPOB Terrorists sleep and wake up on fake news,lies,propaganda and frustrations

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Re: Can't Send Dollars To Nigeria Any More by Sirianese: 2:22pm On Feb 09
tnerro1:


Why not start with medical tourism the politicians like alot

The fools don't know how many billions Tinubu spent over a mere two weeks in France

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Re: Can't Send Dollars To Nigeria Any More by Corrections: 2:23pm On Feb 09
Raiders:
what I am trying is we have had this policy before and it didn’t help the Naira. I remember sending money from US to Nigeria from 2013 to 2020 and all my receivers got paid in Naira. Yet the naira was still losing value so it’s not like it’s a new CBN policy. Some businesses in Nigeria needs dollars for their legitimate businesses, parents needs dollars to pay for their children school fees abroad. We have too much demand for dollars because WE ARE NOT PRODUCING ANYTHING as a nation. It’s simple economics 101. When the demand for a product is high, prices will go up. We need to start producing and reduce importation to help our currency. We can also get more foreign reserves from sales to other countries if we start producing goods


Leave them brother let them keep memorizing all the theories they learnt in school that can only work in countries that tamed or brutalized corruption. They think all these theories will produce effective result were corruption rules the day in a country like Nigeria.

CORRUPTION kills industrialization, innovation. Agriculture, security and all things that can make Nigeria be a great country.

Just leave them and keep watching the drama!!!!

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