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Re: In What Way Is The Father Greater Than The Son? by Aemmyjah(m): 6:19pm On Feb 17
Westerhoffe:



7 weeks…that's forever.

But my question shouldn't be that difficult that will take 7 weeks for you to think and ponder over… is it?

I can answer it immediately
Infact, I already did but to my brother Max just few comments back
As for you, just wait in the queue
You're number 6772.
Just wait, when I have your time, I'll reply you even tho you're the only one on the queue
Re: In What Way Is The Father Greater Than The Son? by Westerhoffe(m): 6:20pm On Feb 17
Aemmyjah:


I can answer it immediately
Infact, I already did but to my brother Max just few comments back
As for you, just wait in the queue
You're number 6772.
Just wait, when I have your time, I'll reply you even tho you're the only one on the queue


When you have my time or you basically couldn't handle it… 🤨
Re: In What Way Is The Father Greater Than The Son? by Aemmyjah(m): 6:27pm On Feb 17
Westerhoffe:



When you have my time or you basically couldn't handle it… 🤨

You're not worth my time cos I discussed it with MaxInDHouse
If you wish, go and read it yourself
If yo can't, it's your own migraine
Re: In What Way Is The Father Greater Than The Son? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:29pm On Feb 17
Aemmyjah:

You're not worth my time cos I discussed it with MaxInDHouse
If you wish, go and read it yourself
If yo can't, it's your own migraine

Until he admits his folly regarding CT Russell's tomb there's nothing for him, let him go and meet his fellow religionists! wink

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Re: In What Way Is The Father Greater Than The Son? by Westerhoffe(m): 6:30pm On Feb 17
Aemmyjah:


You're not worth my time cos I discussed it with MaxInDHouse
If you wish, go and read it yourself
If yo can't, it's your own migraine


For the fact that you read me scrutinize MaxInDHouse to the last drip should sure make it worth your time.
Just say you can't go as far as he does and I'll understand and let this slide.
Re: In What Way Is The Father Greater Than The Son? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:43pm On Feb 17
Westerhoffe:

For the fact that you read me scrutinize MaxInDHouse to the last drip should sure make it worth your time.
Just say you can't go as far as he does and I'll understand and let this slide.

When next a JW gives you a audience you will treasure the time spent not bragging over your ignorance! smiley
Re: In What Way Is The Father Greater Than The Son? by Aemmyjah(m): 6:43pm On Feb 17
Westerhoffe:



For the fact that you read me scrutinize MaxInDHouse to the last drip should sure make it worth your time.
Just say you can't go as far as he does and I'll understand and let this slide.

Did someone tell you or your mind is dribbling assumptions into your head?
Re: In What Way Is The Father Greater Than The Son? by Aemmyjah(m): 6:45pm On Feb 17
MaxInDHouse:


Until he admits his folly regarding CT Russell's tomb there's nothing for him, let him go and meet his fellow religionists! wink

Highly ignorant fellow
Eating lies from the internet like chicken feed on grain
The structure is no longer there on his tomb yet he says illuminati
Does he even know what illuminati means?

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Re: In What Way Is The Father Greater Than The Son? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:46pm On Feb 17
Aemmyjah:

Did someone tell you or your mind is dribbling assumptions into your head?

When next a JW comes around he will respect him or her and treasure the time we sacrificed to chat with him! smiley

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Re: In What Way Is The Father Greater Than The Son? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:47pm On Feb 17
Aemmyjah:

Highly ignorant fellow
Eating lies from the internet like chicken feed on grain
The structure is no longer there on his tomb yet he says illuminati
Does he even know what illuminati means?

They don't do any investigation rather it's their own thoughts that's pushing them so whenever they hear anything against JWs they are ready to push it without a second thought! cheesy

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Re: In What Way Is The Father Greater Than The Son? by Westerhoffe(m): 6:55pm On Feb 17
Aemmyjah:


Did someone tell you or your mind is dribbling assumptions into your head?



You just said so… but you assumed that too.
Re: In What Way Is The Father Greater Than The Son? by Westerhoffe(m): 6:57pm On Feb 17
MaxInDHouse:


When next a JW gives you a audience you will treasure the time spent not bragging over your ignorance! smiley


JWs have always avoided me after we engage… not new to me you also gave up.

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Re: In What Way Is The Father Greater Than The Son? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:39pm On Feb 17
Westerhoffe:

JWs have always avoided me after we engage… not new to me you also gave up.
OK thanks! cheesy
Re: In What Way Is The Father Greater Than The Son? by Aemmyjah(m): 7:54pm On Feb 17
MaxInDHouse:

OK thanks! cheesy

Don't mind the attention seeker
Re: In What Way Is The Father Greater Than The Son? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:06pm On Feb 17
Aemmyjah:

Don't mind the attention seeker

When we take our leave in their houses they used to think they have won arguments that's why i often push them to a place where they will commit the blunder and once they want to continue arguing further i will stop responding to them.

Today i went to the field and as the captain i'm so busy telling everyone where to work and also monitoring the groups then i got to a house where four women were complaining about how domineering and lazy most of their children has become when it comes to house chores. After a greeting they all attacked me saying they don't have the time for preaching so i waited a bit then i spoke Yorùbá to them and asked:
"can i also contribute in the discussion?"
They first felt reluctant to respond then one of them said i should speak so i asked them what each of them is expecting from the children they're training presently.
Come and see the fools all of them said they're expecting the children to buy them mansions and big vehicles.
So i asked:
"how would you treat such a person, like a house help or master of the house?"

Then they realized they're the problem and not their children.

Immediately i told them i'm leaving that's the time they wanted me to stay longer! smiley
Re: In What Way Is The Father Greater Than The Son? by jnrbayano(m): 8:27pm On Feb 17
bloodofthelamb:
What is true about God is also true about Jesus Christ. They are both of the same nature and form(John1:1).

I believe the Father is only greater than the Son just in role or rank.
What do you guys think?

Son is equal to the Father in His divinity, but inferior to the Father in His humanity.

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Re: In What Way Is The Father Greater Than The Son? by Steep(m): 9:10pm On Feb 17
Janosky:


No Sir.
Hebrew 1:2, Isaiah 44:24 & Daniel 4:30 debunked your claim.
God MADE all things (including Jesus Christ, Rev3:14). Likewise, Nebuchadnezzar made Babylon through his workers/subjects).
Please go & verify. grin grin

Matthew 19:4-6 & 1 Corinthians 8:6,is Jesus the source of creation?
@ 1 Corinthians 8:6,Is Paul LYING against Jesus?
grin


Mark 13:19 " the beginning of Creation which God created" according to Jesus Christ. cheesy


scriptures says there was nothing made that was made without christ so how could something be made without christ, use your sense atleast for once

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Re: In What Way Is The Father Greater Than The Son? by Steep(m): 9:53pm On Feb 17
Aemmyjah:


It means God used him in the creation of other things. Jesus is the only begotten son of God. He is the only one created by God. Jesus himself said that God produced him as the beginning of his way
There is no such things as "all other things" it was fraudulently added by Jehovah witness.
Re: In What Way Is The Father Greater Than The Son? by Westerhoffe(m): 10:10pm On Feb 17
MaxInDHouse:

OK thanks! cheesy


Hey!
Come on!!
We still have a lot to discuss…
Re: In What Way Is The Father Greater Than The Son? by Kobojunkie: 10:28pm On Feb 17
jnrbayano:
■ Son is equal to the Father in His divinity, but inferior to the Father in His humanity.
Considering what Jesus Christ in fact said in Scripture, even this conflicts with the very Truth of Jesus Christ.

27 “I leave you peace. It is my own peace I give you. I give you peace in a different way than the world does. So don’t be troubled. Don’t be afraid.
28 You heard me say to you, ‘I am leaving, but I will come back to you.’ If you loved me, you would be happy that I am going back to the Father, because the Father is greater than I am.
29 I have told you this now, before it happens. Then when it happens, you will believe. - John 14 vs 28
To have Jesus Christ, you must abandon the clueless soundbites fed to you by your motivational speakers who go around as your gods of men. undecided
Re: In What Way Is The Father Greater Than The Son? by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:25am On Feb 18
Westerhoffe:

Hey!
Come on!!
We still have a lot to discuss…

I only spend my precious time with sincere and honest hearted individuals not puffed up argumentators desperate to argue blindly.

Are you now convinced that CT Russell's tomb differs from what his enemies posted on line for you?

Your sincere response to this question will determine if you worth my time!

Re: In What Way Is The Father Greater Than The Son? by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:34am On Feb 18
Steep:
It means he is the source and ruler of God's creation because all things were made by him.
Scrupture says without him nothing created would exist meaning he himself is not part of created things.
Automobiles, Electricity, Skyscrapers, airplanes, fast trains and all the things we see today as technological advancement on this planet none was without Adam do you agree?

Because it is through Adam that mankind spread to all the earth and it's his descendants that are subduing the earth just as God told him! Genesis 1:28

So all the things made were created through the first creature God made by himself alone! Proverbs 8:22-30
Re: In What Way Is The Father Greater Than The Son? by Westerhoffe(m): 6:14am On Feb 18
MaxInDHouse:


I only spend my precious time with sincere and honest hearted individuals not puffed up argumentators desperate to argue blindly.

Are you now convinced that CT Russell's tomb differs from what his enemies posted on line for you?

Your sincere response to this question will determine if you worth my time!


That does not change the fact that your doctrines are false, contorted, and misleading, with Bible edited to suit the NEW WORLD ORDER phase.

And why was the monument the same as the pyramid of the Illuminati?

This isn't about if my response will worth your time; (as a tactic to quit like Aemmyjah) I've read several of your replies to several of my questions and they've been off-point and dishonest.

I should be the one saying you have not been sincere and honest, puffed up in ignorance but refusing to admit to your errors, but I haven't.
Re: In What Way Is The Father Greater Than The Son? by Westerhoffe(m): 6:27am On Feb 18
MaxInDHouse:

Automobiles, Electricity, Skyscrapers, airplanes, fast trains and all the things we see today as technological advancement on this planet none was without Adam do you agree?

Because it is through Adam that mankind spread to all the earth and it's his descendants that are subduing the earth just as God told him! Genesis 1:28

So all the things made were created through the first creature God made by himself alone! Proverbs 8:22-30


“The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.”
— Proverbs 8:22 (KJV)

This didn't say, "The LORD created me…" this is why we'll always never agree.

Below is the meaning of "possess"


possess
uk /pəˈzes/ us /pəˈzes/

Verb
possess (third-person singular simple present possesses, present participle possessing, simple past and past participle possessed)

(transitive)
To have (something) as, or as if as, an owner; to have, to own.
Synonym: inhold

Of an idea, thought, etc.: to dominate (someone's mind); to strongly influence.
Of a supernatural entity, especially one regarded as evil: to take control of (an animal or person's body or mind).

(also reflexive, chiefly literary and poetic) Of a person: to control or dominate (oneself or someone, or one's own or someone's heart, mind, etc.).
To dominate (a person)
(archaic)


To cause an idea, thought, etc., to strongly affect or influence (someone); to inspire, to preoccupy.

To occupy the attention or time of (someone).
(also literary) To obtain or seize (something); to gain, to win.
(also reflexive) Chiefly followed by of or with: to vest ownership of something in (oneself or someone); to bestow upon, to endow.


Synonym: seise

Antonyms: dispossess, unpossess
(law) To have control or possession of, but not to own (a chattel or an interest in land).
(obsolete)
To give (someone) information or knowledge; to acquaint, to inform.
To have the ability to use, or knowledge of (a language, a skill, etc.)
To inhabit or occupy (a place).

Chiefly followed by that: to convince or persuade (someone).
(intransitive)
To inhabit or occupy a place.
Conjugation


How does this rhyme with your explanation of JESUS CHRIST being created?
Re: In What Way Is The Father Greater Than The Son? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:06am On Feb 18
Westerhoffe:

That does not change the fact that your doctrines are false, contorted, and misleading, with Bible edited to suit the NEW WORLD ORDER phase.
And why was the monument the same as the pyramid of the Illuminati?
This isn't about if my response will worth your time; (as a tactic to quit like Aemmyjah) I've read several of your replies to several of my questions and they've been off-point and dishonest.
I should be the one saying you have not been sincere and honest, puffed up in ignorance but refusing to admit to your errors, but I haven't.

Westerhoffe:

“The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.”
— Proverbs 8:22 (KJV)
This didn't say, "The LORD created me…" this is why we'll always never agree.
Below is the meaning of "possess"

possess
uk /pəˈzes/ us /pəˈzes/
Verb
possess (third-person singular simple present possesses, present participle possessing, simple past and past participle possessed)
(transitive)
To have (something) as, or as if as, an owner; to have, to own.
Synonym: inhold
Of an idea, thought, etc.: to dominate (someone's mind); to strongly influence.
Of a supernatural entity, especially one regarded as evil: to take control of (an animal or person's body or mind).
(also reflexive, chiefly literary and poetic) Of a person: to control or dominate (oneself or someone, or one's own or someone's heart, mind, etc.).
To dominate (a person)
(archaic)

To cause an idea, thought, etc., to strongly affect or influence (someone); to inspire, to preoccupy.
To occupy the attention or time of (someone).
(also literary) To obtain or seize (something); to gain, to win.
(also reflexive) Chiefly followed by of or with: to vest ownership of something in (oneself or someone); to bestow upon, to endow.

Synonym: seise
Antonyms: dispossess, unpossess
(law) To have control or possession of, but not to own (a chattel or an interest in land).
(obsolete)
To give (someone) information or knowledge; to acquaint, to inform.
To have the ability to use, or knowledge of (a language, a skill, etc.)
To inhabit or occupy (a place).

Chiefly followed by that: to convince or persuade (someone).
(intransitive)
To inhabit or occupy a place.
Conjugation

How does this rhyme with your explanation of JESUS CHRIST being created?

OK thanks. smiley
Re: In What Way Is The Father Greater Than The Son? by Westerhoffe(m): 7:07am On Feb 18
MaxInDHouse:




OK thanks. smiley


🤨

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Re: In What Way Is The Father Greater Than The Son? by Steep(m): 8:40am On Feb 18
MaxInDHouse:

Automobiles, Electricity, Skyscrapers, airplanes, fast trains and all the things we see today as technological advancement on this planet none was without Adam do you agree?

Because it is through Adam that mankind spread to all the earth and it's his descendants that are subduing the earth just as God told him! Genesis 1:28

So all the things made were created through the first creature God made by himself alone! Proverbs 8:22-30
I don't get you, where did you read that Adam created all things?
How can Jesus create himself? use your sense na
Re: In What Way Is The Father Greater Than The Son? by Steep(m): 8:41am On Feb 18
Westerhoffe:



“The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.”
— Proverbs 8:22 (KJV)

This didn't say, "The LORD created me…" this is why we'll always never agree.

Below is the meaning of "possess"


possess
uk /pəˈzes/ us /pəˈzes/

Verb
possess (third-person singular simple present possesses, present participle possessing, simple past and past participle possessed)

(transitive)
To have (something) as, or as if as, an owner; to have, to own.
Synonym: inhold

Of an idea, thought, etc.: to dominate (someone's mind); to strongly influence.
Of a supernatural entity, especially one regarded as evil: to take control of (an animal or person's body or mind).

(also reflexive, chiefly literary and poetic) Of a person: to control or dominate (oneself or someone, or one's own or someone's heart, mind, etc.).
To dominate (a person)
(archaic)


To cause an idea, thought, etc., to strongly affect or influence (someone); to inspire, to preoccupy.

To occupy the attention or time of (someone).
(also literary) To obtain or seize (something); to gain, to win.
(also reflexive) Chiefly followed by of or with: to vest ownership of something in (oneself or someone); to bestow upon, to endow.


Synonym: seise

Antonyms: dispossess, unpossess
(law) To have control or possession of, but not to own (a chattel or an interest in land).
(obsolete)
To give (someone) information or knowledge; to acquaint, to inform.
To have the ability to use, or knowledge of (a language, a skill, etc.)
To inhabit or occupy (a place).

Chiefly followed by that: to convince or persuade (someone).
(intransitive)
To inhabit or occupy a place.
Conjugation


How does this rhyme with your explanation of JESUS CHRIST being created?
And even at that, it was a poetry not a literary writing, that guy does not no the difference, I smh
Re: In What Way Is The Father Greater Than The Son? by Expanse2020(m): 9:20am On Feb 18
Kobojunkie:
I believe this claim of yours that it is only in role and rank is wrong considering Jesus Christ Himself explained who He is in light of who the Father is right there in Scripture for all who would pay heed to His Words to learn. undecided




As you can see from what Jesus Christ said, He is a part of the Father but not all that His Father is. undecided
Some people will just open thread without bible knowledge when the fact is there they will arguing nonsensical...
Thank you for better facts you stated here
Re: In What Way Is The Father Greater Than The Son? by Expanse2020(m): 9:22am On Feb 18
Aemmyjah:


God had a beginning.
Yes or No?
You urself did he has a begginning or not
Re: In What Way Is The Father Greater Than The Son? by Aemmyjah(m): 5:29pm On Feb 18
Steep:
There is no such things as "all other things" it was fraudulently added by Jehovah witness.

Then what things?
Re: In What Way Is The Father Greater Than The Son? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:38pm On Feb 18
Steep:
I don't get you, where did you read that Adam created all things?
How can Jesus create himself? use your sense na
Who is the father of all inventors on planet earth?
If it's Adam then Adam invented everything we are seeing today apart from natural things.
Jesus was created by God that's what makes him the firstborn of all creations.
He can't be exempted from those being born! smiley

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