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Re: Pope Says Ukraine Should Have The ‘Courage Of The White Flag’ by Jovi10: 8:35pm On Mar 10
tctrills:

Sweden and Finland joined NATO so what exactly is your point?


Russia has no issues with Sweden and Finland before. So they are free to join whosoever they want. cheesy
Re: Pope Says Ukraine Should Have The ‘Courage Of The White Flag’ by Jovi10: 8:38pm On Mar 10
TonySpike:


Russian propaganda again. Russia started false flag operations in Donbass and Luhansk with the active aid of the Russian FSB in 2014. Guys like Igor Girkin has confirmed this over and over again. Igor and other Russian officers even shot down the Malaysian plane flying over Donbass at that time.


And the azov battalion was doing what to the Russians in the donbass region? Giving them pats on the back I guess grin. Even USA then named azov as a terrorist groups with nazi ideology, when Russia came in, same USA saw azov as freedom fighters. grin grin dey play your hear

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Re: Pope Says Ukraine Should Have The ‘Courage Of The White Flag’ by Jovi10: 8:39pm On Mar 10
tctrills:


In trying to stop Ukraine from joining NATO, 2 stronger and rich countries have ended up joining NATO. To me that is foolish.

As for Russia winning the war, where did you get that from?
Here are some numbers to help you understand better.
Before 2022, Russia occupied 42,000 km2 (16,000 sq mi) of Ukrainian territory (Crimea, and parts of Donetsk and Luhansk), and occupied an additional 119,000 km2 (46,000 sq mi) after its full-scale invasion by March 2022, a total of 161,000 km2 (62,000 sq mi) or almost 27% of Ukraine's territory. By 11 November, the Institute for the Study of War calculated that Ukrainian forces had liberated an area of 74,443 km2 (28,743 sq mi) from Russian
occupation, leaving Russia with control of about 18% of Ukraine's territory.


Lmao so Ukraine is winning. Wow wonderful

Re: Pope Says Ukraine Should Have The ‘Courage Of The White Flag’ by Jovi10: 8:40pm On Mar 10
Amayabor1:


Did the US invade Cuba and seize it's territories after discovering USSR offensive Weapons there?


USSR was matured enough to pull out of the alliance with Cuba, something the USA will and can never do.
Re: Pope Says Ukraine Should Have The ‘Courage Of The White Flag’ by tctrills: 8:59pm On Mar 10
Jovi10:



Lmao so Ukraine is winning. Wow wonderful
Since you came here to make jokes, and you have nothing important to share, let's just leave it at that. But if you have been following my earlier comments, you would see that none of these parties are winning.
If you plan to stop one nation from joining NATO and two end up joining, where I come from, that's an F not an A
Re: Pope Says Ukraine Should Have The ‘Courage Of The White Flag’ by tctrills: 9:00pm On Mar 10
Jovi10:



Russia has no issues with Sweden and Finland before. So they are free to join whosoever they want. cheesy
Putin does not think so. Please read his comments about Sweden and Finland joining NATO. Do we believe you or do we believe Putin?
Re: Pope Says Ukraine Should Have The ‘Courage Of The White Flag’ by tctrills: 9:05pm On Mar 10
smallrincowis16:


Yet supposed strong countries with all their mights can not defeat ragtag farmers isn't that shameful.

Again we witness what's happening in Isreal, even with genocidal behaviour, they've not been able to achieve anything cogent other than destruction
If you have been following the Israel war. you will know that that have achieved so much.
They have taken out 18 out of 24 Hamas battalions in just 5 months.
I am sure you were expecting more from them but war isn't war film.
Re: Pope Says Ukraine Should Have The ‘Courage Of The White Flag’ by Jovi10: 9:09pm On Mar 10
tctrills:

Putin does not think so. Please read his comments about Sweden and Finland joining NATO. Do we believe you or do we believe Putin?



I guess you need to go and watch the interview with Carlson again.
Re: Pope Says Ukraine Should Have The ‘Courage Of The White Flag’ by Jovi10: 9:10pm On Mar 10
tctrills:

Since you came here to make jokes, and you have nothing important to share, let's just leave it at that. But if you have been following my earlier comments, you would see that none of these parties are winning.
If you plan to stop one nation from joining NATO and two end up joining, where I come from, that's an F not an A


Lmao grin grin so until Russia takes the whole of Ukraine before una see am as winning. Even the pop don dey use style tell Ukraine to raise the white flag but according to you and your masters USA, to the last Ukrainian.
Re: Pope Says Ukraine Should Have The ‘Courage Of The White Flag’ by tctrills: 9:20pm On Mar 10
Jovi10:



Lmao grin grin so until Russia takes the whole of Ukraine before una see am as winning. Even the pop don dey use style tell Ukraine to raise the white flag but according to you and your masters USA, to the last Ukrainian.
I don't know where you get your news but hope you know that Russia controls less of Ukraine than in the first 6 months of the war. If that's the Russian standard for victory good for them.
Re: Pope Says Ukraine Should Have The ‘Courage Of The White Flag’ by Jovi10: 9:23pm On Mar 10
tctrills:

I don't know where you get your news but hope you know that Russia controls less of Ukraine than in the first 6 months of the war. If that's the Russian standard for victory good for them.

Lmao I understand you're trying to console yourself that Ukraine is doing well cheesy no wahala grin grin grin
Re: Pope Says Ukraine Should Have The ‘Courage Of The White Flag’ by tctrills: 9:24pm On Mar 10
Jovi10:




I guess you need to go and watch the interview with Carlson again.
I watched it 2x. What part are you referring to. Is it not the same interview that Putin revealed his interest in joining NATO? Very funny.
Again that was only 2 hours of Putin speaking. He has said much more before and after the interview.
You need to listen to the things he has been saying before the interview. He did not start speaking the day Carlson interviewed him
Re: Pope Says Ukraine Should Have The ‘Courage Of The White Flag’ by tctrills: 9:26pm On Mar 10
Jovi10:


Lmao I understand you're trying to console yourself that Ukraine is doing well cheesy no wahala grin grin grin
You are the one here with zero education about the war but out here to post funny faces.
It's ok. Let me leave you here. Good night
Re: Pope Says Ukraine Should Have The ‘Courage Of The White Flag’ by Amayabor1: 9:40pm On Mar 10
Jovi10:



USSR was matured enough to pull out of the alliance with Cuba, something the USA will and can never do.

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.

He said USSR was matured enough to pull out of the alliance with Cuba. 🤣🤣🤣.

Do you know why the USSR pulled out? They knew they couldn't stand the US in a war. During the heat of the crisis, nuclear armed B-52 bombers were patrolling the sky in striking distance of USSR. Khrushchev (USSR leader at the time) had to dismantle the weapons and take them back to USSR.
Re: Pope Says Ukraine Should Have The ‘Courage Of The White Flag’ by smallrincowis16(m): 9:42pm On Mar 10
tctrills:

If you have been following the Israel war. you will know that that have achieved so much.
They have taken out 18 out of 24 Hamas battalions in just 5 months.
I am sure you were expecting more from them but war isn't war film.

According to?


Please stop spreading propaganda. The same battalion that's still launching rockets from Northern Gaza?

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Re: Pope Says Ukraine Should Have The ‘Courage Of The White Flag’ by Amayabor1: 9:42pm On Mar 10
GiZcorp:


That's why I said read sensible comments here and find out but naahh... Anyway, you're right.

Lol. Comments supporting Russia invasion are the sensible comments abi? Lol.

If you have common sense, you will know that Russia had no right to invade Ukraine.
Re: Pope Says Ukraine Should Have The ‘Courage Of The White Flag’ by Amayabor1: 9:45pm On Mar 10
AnyanwuSilas:
I dey shake head for you based on say you no know anything about geopolitics of the world. What's happening in the world today seems related to what's predicted by the Bible. We want multipolar world, what Russia is doing is the right thing that can get us freedom befor we enter a new age. This war is bigger than Russia & Ukrain. It's a war between empires vs empires or eving kingdoms. The control of the world's soul is what they are fighting for. It's a world war. I'm sure you don't know the reason why killings are going on in Nigeria

Lol. Conspiracy theorists. Una don start! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.

What Russia is doing is the right thing, yet 2 of it's neighbors (Sweden and Finland) have joined NATO, making NATO to be more closer to Russia.

Are you sure Russia really knows what it is doing? 😅😂
Re: Pope Says Ukraine Should Have The ‘Courage Of The White Flag’ by jikins(m): 9:48pm On Mar 10
talkreal:


You see why I applaud his comments, the cases he mentioned, the cases of Libya, Syria, Irak, and others. He blamed the US where necessary unlike yous that tries to make Russia look holy and infallible. Trying to turn the Truth on its head claiming the defender to be the aggressor..

I think I see the problem here which is clearly lack of comprehension. Please show me where I mention Russia once in my replies to you that you came up with this ridiculous conclusion. So me telling you to go do more research automatically means the I am saying whatever you are claiming?

This is not good at all. Learn to address exactly what was said and not what ever imaginary thoughts comes to your head.
Re: Pope Says Ukraine Should Have The ‘Courage Of The White Flag’ by tctrills: 9:51pm On Mar 10
smallrincowis16:


According to?


Please stop spreading propaganda. The same battalion that's still launching rockets from Northern Gaza?
I understand that you have no reason to believe Israeli figures. You prefer to believe Palestinian figures and I have no reason not to believe Israeli figures.
So let's both hold on to our believes. In a year or 2, the truth will be clear for all to see.
But just out of interest, can you give us your own numbers of Hamas casualties. I am guessing you will say zero.
Re: Pope Says Ukraine Should Have The ‘Courage Of The White Flag’ by Topmaike007(m): 10:26pm On Mar 10
tctrills:

You have not refuted any of the points I made and yes the sanctions were not successful. You got that one right.
Again, let me repeat, the total amount sent to Ukraine is less than 0.5% of the US GDP. It's but a drop in a vast ocean.
Your final point is that the UK cannot survive what Russia is surviving. Please explain. How do you know?
Lastly, Russia is getting lots of external help. Many nations still do business with Russia.
do you know that the British actually used soldiers in her colony to fight the second world war and right now there is no colony or sort again and you think UK will survive 3 years of a full blown war without external help??
Re: Pope Says Ukraine Should Have The ‘Courage Of The White Flag’ by tctrills: 10:30pm On Mar 10
Topmaike007:
do you know that the British actually used soldiers in her colony to fight the second world war and right now there is no colony or sort again and you think UK will survive 3 years of a full blown war without external help??
So your big point is that because the British used soldiers from her colonies to fight a war over80 years ago, they would still need the same if that are in another war? Ok now I understand your thinking.
Let's just say we don't agree. Good night bro
Re: Pope Says Ukraine Should Have The ‘Courage Of The White Flag’ by GiZcorp: 11:08pm On Mar 10
Amayabor1:


Lol. Comments supporting Russia invasion are the sensible comments abi? Lol.

If you have common sense, you will know that Russia had no right to invade Ukraine.
You're right
Re: Pope Says Ukraine Should Have The ‘Courage Of The White Flag’ by Topmaike007(m): 11:20pm On Mar 10
tctrills:

So your big point is that because the British used soldiers from her colonies to fight a war over80 years ago, they would still need the same if that are in another war? Ok now I understand your thinking.
Let's just say we don't agree. Good night bro
nothing like understand thinking Even USA put body for Afghanistan but later leave without actualising anything ..war is not easy as Hollywood made us to believe
Re: Pope Says Ukraine Should Have The ‘Courage Of The White Flag’ by tctrills: 11:37pm On Mar 10
Topmaike007:
nothing like understand thinking Even USA put body for Afghanistan but later leave without actualising anything ..war is not easy as Hollywood made us to believe
Let's go back to your point. You believe because the British used men from their colony over 80 years ago hence going forward, they must need help in every and any war they engage in?
We don't think the same way.
As of the war in Afghan, the US actualized all they initially set out to do but for some reason, they chose to overstay.
Re: Pope Says Ukraine Should Have The ‘Courage Of The White Flag’ by Jovi10: 7:23am On Mar 11
Amayabor1:


🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.

He said USSR was matured enough to pull out of the alliance with Cuba. 🤣🤣🤣.

Do you know why the USSR pulled out? They knew they couldn't stand the US in a war. During the heat of the crisis, nuclear armed B-52 bombers were patrolling the sky in striking distance of USSR. Khrushchev (USSR leader at the time) had to dismantle the weapons and take them back to USSR.



So USA does not need to pull out of Ukraine right? Because they can stand Russia?

No wahala we shall see what will happen at the end grin grin grin
Re: Pope Says Ukraine Should Have The ‘Courage Of The White Flag’ by Jovi10: 7:24am On Mar 11
tctrills:

I watched it 2x. What part are you referring to. Is it not the same interview that Putin revealed his interest in joining NATO? Very funny.
Again that was only 2 hours of Putin speaking. He has said much more before and after the interview.
You need to listen to the things he has been saying before the interview. He did not start speaking the day Carlson interviewed him


And USA refused to allow Russia in NATO why? They need an enemy as usual.


No point going back and forth with you, we shall see how it ends.
Re: Pope Says Ukraine Should Have The ‘Courage Of The White Flag’ by Amayabor1: 7:38am On Mar 11
Jovi10:




So USA does not need to pull out of Ukraine right? Because they can stand Russia?

No wahala we shall see what will happen at the end grin grin grin

USA doesn't need to pull out of Ukraine you said?

Please, is the US fighting in ukraine?
Re: Pope Says Ukraine Should Have The ‘Courage Of The White Flag’ by Jovi10: 7:42am On Mar 11
Amayabor1:


USA doesn't need to pull out of Ukraine you said?

Please, is the US fighting in ukraine?


I'm asking you the question since you said USSR pulled out of Cuba because they could not stand USA grin
Re: Pope Says Ukraine Should Have The ‘Courage Of The White Flag’ by Amayabor1: 7:58am On Mar 11
Jovi10:



I'm asking you the question since you said USSR pulled out of Cuba because they could not stand USA grin

Yes. They pulled out Cuba because the US was ready for a nuclear war with USSR. They became scared. Even when the US discovered USSR weapons in Cuba, the US didn't invade Cuba.


But Russia didn't find any US/Nato weapons in Ukraine but they went ahead to invade Ukraine.

Can't you see that both scenarios aren't the same.
Re: Pope Says Ukraine Should Have The ‘Courage Of The White Flag’ by GreatOchuks: 8:40am On Mar 11
humilitypays:
Bro check the difference please.


Hamas invaded Israel, murdered thousands of civilians without provocation, Israel only retaliated.


But in Russia vs Ukraine, Russia only invaded Ukraine on mere suspicion that Ukraine wants to join NATO, imagine invading a sovereign country just because you suspect they would join an association, how just is that?

Mere Suspicion ?
After so many warnings ?
They should have folded their arms and waited till NATO brings their missile heads to surround the Russian border through Ukraine first before they should bail the water before it's still ankle deep .

If you don't like it , go to Ukraine and join them defend their land or sue Russia to Court .

But for now , God bless Mother Russia, Ukraine must be Gazaed till they luurrn their lessons




Re: Pope Says Ukraine Should Have The ‘Courage Of The White Flag’ by GreatOchuks: 9:12am On Mar 11
tctrills:

Let's take it point by point.
1. Your first point about NATO being only 45% of the world adds no value to this argument. I stated that the world thought Russia would easily defeat Ukraine.
2 So far, almost all the gains Russia has made in the war were made in the first 3 months. They have lost more land area than they gained since after the first 6 months of the war.

Russia is fighting the poorest country in Europe and the support coming from the western countries is not up to 1% of their GDP.
If Ukraine can hold Russia with much less then 1% of the NATO nation's GDP, what more do you need to tell you that Russia is weaker than we all knew.
For example, the US has sent about $75 billion on Ukraine so far. That's about 0.3 of the US GDP and 10% of the US military budget.
Now this is what the US has given Ukraine in 2 years.
So work the maths, in one year, the US is spending less than 5% of it's military budget on Ukraine and Russia can achieve air superiority or dominant the battlefield.

Before 2022, Russia occupied 42,000 km2 (16,000 sq mi) of Ukrainian territory (Crimea, and parts of Donetsk and Luhansk), and occupied an additional 119,000 km2 (46,000 sq mi) after its full-scale invasion by March 2022, a total of 161,000 km2 (62,000 sq mi) or almost 27% of Ukraine's territory. By 11 November, the Institute for the Study of War calculated that Ukrainian forces had liberated an area of 74,443 km2 (28,743 sq mi) from Russian
occupation, leaving Russia with control of about 18% of Ukraine's territory.

Oga Russia is much weaker than we knew.
Okay , you are right .
But the bombing continues ,, so Russia will grow weaker and weaker .
Re: Pope Says Ukraine Should Have The ‘Courage Of The White Flag’ by tctrills: 9:14am On Mar 11
Jovi10:



And USA refused to allow Russia in NATO why? They need an enemy as usual.


No point going back and forth with you, we shall see how it ends.
You don't get the irony here. Now same Russia is going to war because Ukraine wants to join NATO.
It seems it's Russia that's looking for enemies. Anyway, have a great day.

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