chopnaira:

Ogun, ayelala e.t.c are worshiped in Benin. The king of Benin in a video calls himself son of Oranmiyan who was the son of Oduduwa.

Son of Adimula is in the oriki of the Oba of Benin. Both cultures are interwoven to an extent. They have some borrowed words from Yoruba due to the influence of Oranmiyan

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All these are Edo appelations, i have proven it time and time again here

Racoon:
I wish and pray he succeeds as the next governor of Edo State.

He is just wasting his time. Asue Ighodalo is winning.

Nice

From what I just watched, it would be easier for him to win Grammy than to win Governorship Election.

santaclaws:
I used to think this man was Yoruba... Ashey bros na Osaigbovo from Edo state. I no go dey assume anybody tribe till I see their ID card

On a more serious note, I wish Mr. Akpata the best and I believe he has something upstairs... Good luck to the people of EDO state!

Edos are Yoruba stray children.

Pristine664:


Pataki is also a Bini word. It means the same thing.

But you know Edos borrowed the word. True or not?

fawaz050:
I heard some Yoruba towards the end.

Pataki as in important

By the way what do Obasohan, Bazuaye, and Ize-Iyamu mean?

No mind Edos. They ll claim they weren't influenced by Yorubas despite using most Yoruba words. Them dey call Olumide omon'Edo meaning child of Edo. Omo = a Yoruba word for child. Later they lied and said na dem get the word Oba despite not being able to declare its meaning to simplest form. One lied that Oba means light and not just king. Meanwhile, all letters in Oba has meanings. Edo people, head dey pain una. Later they said Odua was their Ekaladerhan that entered one chance bus.
Mtcheweeewwwwwwwwewweeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!
Despite all Yorubas have done for una land. Una better respect una masters & stop jealousy.

Ologbo147:
Obaseki is not a Yoruba name, Osiomoole is not a Yoruba name

Edo’s are not Yoruba mixed. Esan is not a Yoruba name, Okpe is not a Yoruba name, Etsako is not a Yoruba name. And they are all distinct languages from Yoruba as recognized by linguistic scholars. You just want attention

I already answered below. I ain't gonna repeat myself.

In fact, "iya mi or iyami" is what is called iyamu today. Okpe means a Palm.

Dsimmer:


Oba is a Yoruba word..

Oshiomole is an oriki of Ogun. Oshin mole which is "walks on ground". Esan is a Yoruba word which means "it's good". Owan means merry. Etsako means "we go away".

Dsimmer:


I already answered below. I ain't gonna repeat myself.

In fact, "iya mi or iyami" is what is called iyamu today.

you sound like a very obese fool
Please do not repeat yourself
Iyamu- means i have played more roles than my peers

I just googled and it did not take me time to find out Oshiomhole means God’s property in Etsako language

Ologbo147:
Those are names of families he descended from,

Obasohan is the name of a big chief in Benin, the same with ize iyamu and Bazuaye,

Obasohan- Obasohan means the oba is greater than fear

Obazuaye means the Oba has the capacity to bring life

Obazuaye of Ibiwe class actually comes from the Yoruba phrase 'Oba ju aye' - The king is more than the world'. In other words, the Oba choses the pleasure anyone enjoys in this life.

i feel sorry for Nigerian people, all of them from all the parties and all the tribes are working for the same people sponsoring the terrorists and killing the farmers. You cant join politics without agreeing to do harm to Nigerian people , in this European colonial tribulation we are facing.

... Akpata is the number one choice.

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Ologbo147:
you sound like a very obese fool
Please do not repeat yourself
Iyamu- means i have played more roles than my peers

Break the etymology, let's see.. what's I" have" in Bini. I know how Bini misrepresented Yoruba word. That was how some thought abu ago translate into Eko.

That being said,
Oba is a Yoruba word.

Oshiomole is Ogun oriki. Heck, Ogun is Edo
deity.

Owan celebrate Oranmiyan. Owan means merry.

Esan means it's good.

While Etsako means we go away.

scholes0:


Obazuaye of Ibiwe class actually comes from the Yoruba phrase 'Oba ju aye' - The king is more than the world'. In other words, the Oba choses the pleasure anyone enjoys in this life.

that is not it, Obazuaye in Benin means the Oba gives life or he is the harbinger of life

Dsimmer:


Break the etymology, let's see.. what's I" have" in Bini. I know how Bini misrepresented Yoruba word. That was how some thought abu ago translate into Eko.

Dont be a fool, all the rendering you’ve gave are nonsensical in nature, Esan means Esanfia meaning they fled into the bush

Etsako is a corruption of ivbiosakon meaning Teeth doctor or teeth medicine practitioners

I am not from Etsako, i just had to google the meaning and that came out, go and read about people, give people the benefit of doubt and don’t superimpose your culture and language on other people


Is it Obaseki, it means oba is bigger than trade or commerce

Ologbo147:
that is not it, Obazuaye in Benin means the Oba gives life or he is the harbinger of life

lol, you are saying the same thing as I am. It is an Edo chieftaincy today but has obtained a slightly unique connotation in Edo parlance. Just like Kpataki and the Osodin, another ibiwe chief.

At any rate, Olumide is from Usen originally.

scholes0:


lol, you are saying the same thing as I am. It is an Edo chieftaincy today but has obtained a slightly unique connotation in Edo parlance. Just like Kpataki and the Oshodin, another ibiwe chief.

zo as a Bini word means to bring to bare

Osazuwa- God brought forth wealth or he is the one with the only ability to do so

Ologbo147:
Dont be a fool, all the rendering you’ve gave are nonsensical in nature, Esan means Esanfia meaning they fled into the bush

Etsako is a corruption of ivbiosakon meaning Teeth doctor or teeth medicine practitioners

Says who?

You mean how some Bini in their bid to attach Esan, Owan, Etsako to themselves, ended up writing conjecture to rewrite history whenever Esan, Owan, Etsako etc say they're not Bini but the Bini forgot that they're also Yoruba breed like the Esan, Owan, Etsako etc?

Owanbe in full means merry for example or happiness. Owan still celebrate Oranmiyan festival till now.

Etsako just the same way Itsekiri who are Yoruba add ts to s. Heck, Agbede who founded Etsako is a Yoruba man which means blacksmith. Esan means it's good. We're even yet to talk about the Akoko Ed.

scholes0:


lol, you are saying the same thing as I am. It is an Edo chieftaincy today but has obtained a slightly unique connotation in Edo parlance. Just like Kpataki and the Osodin, another ibiwe chief.

At any rate, Olumide is from Usen originally.

And Usen as a town has come a long way in Edo history, Ogbebor’usen is not a family of yesterday, besides his mother is not from Usen, the Mother is the one with the link to Obazuaye

Dsimmer:


Says who?

You mean how some Bini in their way to attach Esan, Owan, Etsako to themselves ended up writing conjecture to rewrite the history, even though they're also mixed Yoruba like the Esan, Owan, Etsako etc?

Owanbe in full means merry for example. Owan still celebrate Oranmiyan festival today.

Etsako just the same way Itsekiri who are Yoruba add ts to just s. Heck, agbede who founded Etsako is a Yoruba word which means blacksmith. Esan means it's good.

You sounding like a fat fool, Benin is attaching itself to Esan and lexical similarity between Benin and Esan is 91 percent. You need knowledge, you are sounding like a goat

Ologbo147:
You sounding like a fat fool, Benin is attaching itself to Esan and lexical similarity between Benin and Esan is 91 percent. You need knowledge, you are sounding like a goat

Now I know you. You're one clown who claim to be Kogi and at the same time, claim Bini etc and then claim Benue while spewing gibberish. Typical Zombiediente

Ologbo147:
And Usen as a town has come a long way in Edo history, Ogbebor’usen is not a family of yesterday, besides his mother is not from Usen, the Mother is the one with the link to Obazuaye

Yes it has come a long way in Edo historically no one is disputing that, but as you can also see, their Ife links are very obvious for everyone to see. All his Ogbebor n'Usen family side have Yoruba names. Ogbebor left Usen for Benin with the sanction of Olu Awure in 1819. He prospered and became a big family there (Infact, one of the biggest and most influential in Benin) and got chieftaincy from Oba. Anyways, their family is an example of one of those family clans in Benin that bridge both sides. I won't be surprised if they greet Lauhe.

scholes0:


Yes it has come a long way in Edo historically no one is disputing that, but as you can also see, their Ife links are very obvious for everyone to see. Ogbebor left Usen for Benin with the sanction of Olu Awure in 1819. He prospered and became a big family there and got chieftaincy from Oba. Anyways, their family is an example of one of those family clans in Benin that bridge both sides. I won't be surprised if they greet Lauhe.

they greet Delauhe, it has never been in contention they came from yorubaland, but what beats me is how they end up with one of these eastern Yoruba dialects rather than that of Ife.


Besides we are not about Ogbebor, we are about Obazuaye

Ologbo147:
You sounding like a fat fool, Benin is attaching itself to Esan and lexical similarity between Benin and Esan is 91 percent. You need knowledge, you are sounding like a goat

The fact that you keep insulting these guys and they don't even bother to insult you back may point to the fact that they have a superior argument.

Pristine664:


The fact that you keep insulting these guys and they don't even bother to insult you back may point to the fact that they have a superior argument.

you are an alternate moniker, if they have a superior argument it will be obvious, it is because many of these their interpretations are insanely stupid. You just need to google Etsako, Esan, Obaseki and so on the Edo meanings will come out for you, they probably must have seen it and still chose to go on with thier own interpretations. That is why that one is saying we Binis are imposing our selfs on other Edo groups like Esan etc


Bini and Esan for example share 91 percent lexical similarity. Many dialects do not share that high.

Ologbo147:
they greet Delauhe, it has never been in contention they came from yorubaland, but what beats me is how they end up with one of these eastern Yoruba dialects rather than that of Ife.

Besides we are not about Ogbebor, we are about Obazuaye

How can his Obazuaye, Ize and Obasohan side which is maternal be more important than his Erha (Ogbebor)º side though?
If some Edo people call him a Yoruba person , they wouldn't be completely wrong.

On the meaning of certain Benin chieftaincies/aristocratic terms and titles i.e (Obazuaye, Ologbosere, Osodi, Esogban etc) being originally Yoruba etymologically, trust me, I know what I am talking about, but even if we argue til tomorrow, u no go gree, lol, but its okay. Let's just keep it at that.

Ologbo147:
you are an alternate moniker, if they have a superior argument it will be obvious, it is because many of these their interpretations are insanely stupid. You just need to google Etsako, Esan, Obaseki and so on the Edo meanings will come out for you, they probably must have seen it and still chose to go on with thier own interpretations. That is why that one is saying we Binis are imposing our selfs on other Edo groups like Esan etc


Bini and Esan for example share 91 percent lexical similarity. Many dialects do not share that high.

Do you know there is a very popular linguistic theory that the Northern Edoid languages are actually the ones closer to proto Edo than Benin (Edo language) and not the other way round? They are actually the more conservative Edoid languages compared to Benin. Some Ora dialects like that of Ozalla are closer to Esan than Esan is to Benin.

scholes0:


How can his Obazuaye, Ize and Obasohan side which is maternal be more important than his Erha (Ogbebor)º side though?
If some Edo people call him a Yoruba person , they wouldn't be completely wrong.

On the meaning of certain Benin chieftaincies i.e (Obazuaye, Ologbosere, Osodi, Esogban etc) being originally Yoruba etymologically, trust me, I know what I am talking about, but even if we argue til tomorrow, u no go gree, lol, but its okay. Let's just keep it at that.

They don’t have right to call him that, there are bilingual clans in Every tribe, in ika, clans like Alilehan and Alisor are Bini groups originally that also picked up languages and culture of their host as a result are bilinguals.


Is it Esan, in Ekpon you have bilingual attributes, in Urhobo you have Orogun that speak both Kwale and Urhobo. Anyone that will do so is doing so out of ignorance.

Usens are bilinguals too, and he has clearly shown that with his Edo language prowess. What i am perturbed about Usen is how they manage to end up with an eastern Yoruba dialects rather than that of Ife.
There is a place in Otuo, a quarter or section of the town, there was one time the Oba of Benin was in search of their soul, they ran to Okpe in Akoko Edo, came back and they are now Idesa speaking. Even till date, how did Usen ended up with an eastern Yoruba dialects even when it is said she came from ife

scholes0:

Do you know there is a very popular linguistic theory that the Northern Edoid languages are actually the ones closer to proto Edo than Benin (Edo language) and not the other way round? They are actually the more conservative Edoid languages compared to Benin. Some Ora dialects like that of Ozalla are closer to Esan than Esan is to Benin.

Ozalla is closer to Esan because she has irrevocably mixed with Esan over the years, what about the other owan dialects, Ozalla is a minute part of Owan and very close to Esan land.

Ologbo147:
Ozalla is closer to Esan because she has irrevocably mixed with Esan over the years, what about the other owan dialects, Ozalla is a minute part of Owan and very close to Esan land.

Well, in truth the Owan dialects are actually more like a continuum. Some parts are closer to Esan, some parts like Warrake and Ivbiaro are closer to Yekhee and they understand Auchi more than they do their fellow 'Owans'.
Some like Otuo and Ikhin are their own thing entirely with plenty Yoruba loan words. Luleha is more central. But don't comletely discount that linguistic appraisal that the Edoid languages actually originated in the North and streamed downwards. Even Yoruboid is the same. The dialects closer to the Niger-Benue confluence are older than the ones in the interior south west.

Ologbo147:
They don’t have right to call him that, there are bilingual clans in Every tribe, in ika, clans like Alilehan and Alisor are Bini groups originally that also picked up languages and culture of their host as a result are bilinguals.

Is it Esan, in Ekpon you have bilingual attributes, in Urhobo you have Orogun that speak both Kwale and Urhobo. Anyone that will do so is doing so out of ignorance.

Are we not in this Nigeria? Those who want to use it as agenda will surely use it. I still heard at least 3 Esans call Olumide "That Yoruba guy from Edo south" today alone and what I am saying is that it completely makes sense why they would refer to him as such.
If someones name is Shola Elawure or Abiodun Okpeseyi from Usen, is he a Yoruba or Benin man?

scholes0:


Well, in truth the Owan dialects are actually more like a continuum. Some parts are closer to Esan, some parts like Warrake and Ivbiaro are closer to Yekhee and they understand Auchi more than they do their fellow 'Owans'.
Some like Otuo and Okpuje are their own thing entirely with plenty Yoruba loan words. Luleha is more central. But don't comletely discount that linguistic appraisal that the Edoid languages actually originated in the North and streamed downwards. Even Yoruboid is the same. The dialects closer to the Niger-Benue confluence are older than the ones in the interior south west.

Maybe that is the reality, it was never my central idea. I just wanted to reply to that man that said we are forcing ourselves on Esan when lexical similarity between Bini and Esan stands at 91%

Ologbo147:
Maybe that is the reality, it was never my central idea. I just wanted to reply to that man that said we are forcing ourselves on Esan when lexical similarity between Bini and Esan stands at 91%

Sure, they are al Edoid languages.

scholes0:


Are we not in this Nigeria? Those who want to use it as agenda will surely use it. I still heard at least 3 Esans call Olumide "That Yoruba guy from Edo south" today alone and what I am saying is that it completely makes sense why they would refer to him as such.
If someones name is Shola Elawure or Abiodun Okpeseyi from Usen, is he a Yoruba or Benin man?

They identify as Benin/Edo, and you know they are bilingual and bicultural. His name is Osaigbovo, and Osaigbovo was born in 1972, even his father’s name was Omorogieva. Which means your child is your most trusted ally. Even Ogbebor is a Bini name.


Should we now say Ekpon people are Igbo-Ika or should we say Orogun people are Igbos because they are bilinguals.

What about several ika elites with Bini names .
Leo irabor-the former chief of defense staff, what about Jim ovia, how many times did Bini people sing about it? What is very pertinent is at the periphery of every group, there is cross culturation . You call people what they want you to call them


Even in Esan, there are the Ilushi people, many of them identify as Esans today. Oseosachie seem like an Esan and Igala mixture. One of their elites bears it, how many times have Benin people tormented them about it