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Re: Does Flogging Have A Place In Modern Nigerian Society? by Reference(m): 10:21am On May 25, 2013
lindiwey: I tried d scolding method and talkn to my 2yrs old son weneva he does wrong.d tin no work oo I just dey waste my saliva Instead he will b laughing n tinks am joking.I started d spanking method on his butts and its bn working wella,most times I just threaten him wit a cain(ruler) witout beating him.imediatly he sees d ruler,d guy go take dressing sharp sharp sayn mummy sorry.wen he's sayn sorry I now talk to him n corect him.but some parents over do it by using dangerous objects to beat their child thereby inflictn wound on dem.I tink d grounding method will work for older kids.just study ur child n knw d one dat works for u then apply it

Why not lead by example. what is happening to you is that your body language is all wrong. You say something but mean another and these signals are confusing him. he should be able to tell when you play, when you work and when you teach. Most parents do not present this distinction properly and early enough. Excellent parents can change the direction of discourse with their children by something as simply as a raised eyebrow or a simple decibel increase. If you are extreme, always unserious or always too serious, over anxious or far too relaxed you are on a long thing. You must culture multiple personalities in your home to expose them to the spectrum of human behaviour. And start early.
Re: Does Flogging Have A Place In Modern Nigerian Society? by Nobody: 10:22am On May 25, 2013
ogugua88: [size=13pt]I hate the act of flogging. My dad flogged us when we were younger and I always found it stupid and heartless. It was very saddening and I believed my father didn't love my siblings and I. Sometimes I think back now that I'm adult, and I see no reason for any of it. I can't attribute any good thing that I am to flogging.

I've already vowed not to flog or spank my children
. I don't want them to reflect in adulthood and have moments of disdain or disappointment for me the way I have for my dad sometimes.[/size]

Wait until you have your own kids before making any vow.Except if only you were abused by your parent,I see no reason why someone should hate their parents for flogging them to do what is right for themselves and the society at large !

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Re: Does Flogging Have A Place In Modern Nigerian Society? by charlesm91(m): 10:25am On May 25, 2013
different strokes for diff. Folks. Everybody, to each his own. Floggn is subjective.
Re: Does Flogging Have A Place In Modern Nigerian Society? by Nobody: 10:27am On May 25, 2013
~Bluetooth:
Wait until you have your own kids before making any vow.Except if only you were abused by your parent,I see no reason why someone should hate their parents for flogging them to do what is right for themselves and the society at large !

[size=13pt]To each his or her own. Like I said, I can't attribute any accomplishment of mine to flogging or spanking. I excelled in school not because I was flogged, but because my parents told me to study hard and helped me or told me where to find help when I needed assistance. I did well in sports not because I was flogged but because I trained, practiced, and had guidance from parents and coaches. I'm well-mannered not because I was flogged but because I modeled my parents' behaviors. The only correlation from flogging that I can personally make is to moments of self-reflection where I question why my dad flogged me. The reasons are so unworthy of his actions.

I'm not flogging my children.[/size]
Re: Does Flogging Have A Place In Modern Nigerian Society? by ZACHIE: 10:32am On May 25, 2013
Don,t get it twisted, spanking is a beautiful thing in family upbringing
Re: Does Flogging Have A Place In Modern Nigerian Society? by sainty2k3(m): 10:38am On May 25, 2013
Elgaxton:

Flogging your child is not assault.


It is assault, and don't misquote that scripture. Who in d bible use koboko to beat his own child. I'm not aware of any.
The issue is correction when necessarry. And flogging is not the only way .
Re: Does Flogging Have A Place In Modern Nigerian Society? by lindiwey: 10:39am On May 25, 2013
Reference:

Why not lead by example. what is happening to you is that your body language is all wrong. You say something but mean another and these signals are confusing him. he should be able to tell when you play, when you work and when you teach. Most parents do not present this distinction properly and early enough. Excellent parents can change the direction of discourse with their children by something as simply as a raised eyebrow or a simple decibel increase. If you are extreme, always unserious or always too serious, over anxious or far too relaxed you are on a long thing. You must culture multiple personalities in your home to expose them to the spectrum of human behaviour. And start early.

Story Story! Abeg park well jor I dnt evn undstand wat u talkn about.Y are u misquoting me? Do u know me or my son dat u are coming up wit all these assumptns? Don't u knw kids are smart?atims a kid knows wen u are serious and decides to laugh hoping u will smile bak at dem n nt scold dem.atims dey just want to see ur reaction..so please dnt say wat u don't know abt me by questioning my parenting..
Re: Does Flogging Have A Place In Modern Nigerian Society? by sainty2k3(m): 10:39am On May 25, 2013
Elgaxton:

Flogging your child is not assault.


It is assault, and don't misquote that scripture. Who in d bible use koboko to beat his own child. I'm not aware of any.
The issue is correction when necessarry. And there are other ways to achieve that apart from flogging.
Re: Does Flogging Have A Place In Modern Nigerian Society? by Freiburger(m): 11:02am On May 25, 2013
Go and drink a bottle of beer in some parts of Nigerian, then you will understand if flogging still got a place.
Re: Does Flogging Have A Place In Modern Nigerian Society? by ZACHIE: 11:03am On May 25, 2013
sainty2k3:

It is assault,

Shut up. It is not
Re: Does Flogging Have A Place In Modern Nigerian Society? by Freiburger(m): 11:08am On May 25, 2013
I still got a very big mark on the lower part of by asss, something i had from my arts teacher for failing to submit my art work on time. grin grin grin
Re: Does Flogging Have A Place In Modern Nigerian Society? by Ochek: 11:18am On May 25, 2013
Uyi Iredia:

And despite the wide spread use of koboko has vices stopped ? No, it hasn't. Your statement is senseless to me when I consider how flogging (or the prospect of it) didn't deter me from doing what I had in mind.

You must be super hardened if koboko never restored you and drove fear down ur spine.

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Re: Does Flogging Have A Place In Modern Nigerian Society? by chidi01(m): 11:19am On May 25, 2013
the wisdom of God is beyond the understanding of man. Spare the rod and spoil the child says the Bible, therefore to neglect God's word on this issue is detrimental to any people. We may not believe this, but i know that Nigeria is one of the most morally sound country in the world today if we talk of morality. This is mostly linked to our parental backgrounds of spanking.

The problem with spanking your child is wisdom, cos wisdom is required in all we do in life. A parent should take time to learn how to raise up his/her child. This involves teaching the child to understand good and bad, why the good is good and why the bad is bad. Teach the child where both ways will lead. The child should always be corrected when he/she errs.

But there is a way that seems right to man. At every level of development there are ways that seem right to the developing mind, and if not corrected from wrong ways the child tends to form his own ideologies that may be harmful to the society.

The issue of spanking should come when a child has refused to hid to verbal correction, and it should be done with wisdom, not to excess, and not to create fear of the parent in the child, but through it the child should realize he has done something bad and therefore pick correction.

I don't support situations where parents beat there children silly, even inflicting injuries on them. That creates hatred and fear and might lead to a rebellous attitude.

I think the issue of spanking children in Nigeria have done us some good. though most of our parents have done it wrongly, cos most of our parents flogged us mercilessly without verbal correction first or advice.

Violence breeds violence, thats the case when a child is spanked at every little mistake or always beaten mercilessly with injuries inflicted on him or her. In such homes where children see parent as Hitler who must be obeyed wether they are right or not, the child tends to see violence as a means to getting results and subdueing others.

I support spanking children as part of training up a child. Whatever it takes to save a child from his/her erring ways provided it is not extreme is Ok. Cos we will be saving our society from further moral decadence.
Re: Does Flogging Have A Place In Modern Nigerian Society? by INDESTRUCTABLEX(m): 11:22am On May 25, 2013
ogugua88: [size=13pt]I hate the act of flogging. My dad flogged us when we were younger and I always found it stupid and heartless. It was very saddening and I believed my father didn't love my siblings and I. Sometimes I think back now that I'm adult, and I see no reason for any of it. I can't attribute any good thing that I am to flogging.

I've already vowed not to flog or spank my children. I don't want them to reflect in adulthood and have moments of disdain or disappointment for me the way I have for my dad sometimes.[/size]

You are on your own... I just can't believe Nigerians are impaired in reasoning. I can count the number of times my dad beat me mercilessly. I can't count the number of times my mum flogged me. Yet in all of that, I am way better. U can't compare the morals of a child that was flogged to those that were not. Flogging is the only way. It has been from the beginning and will always be.
Take our fore fathers for example. Do u agree that the world is gradually loosing it norms and values?
Before now divorce was a shame, same sex marriage was also a shame. Now pple are proud to say they have divorced 5 times or push for same sex marriage.
1c you leave ur roots, you become confused. Wo, I dey beat my cousin and after that I tell him y I do so. So you better shine your eye... Before you start regretting.

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Re: Does Flogging Have A Place In Modern Nigerian Society? by Litmus: 11:22am On May 25, 2013
A hearty and massive yes. There is no better way of understanding life than observing nature.Pain is nature's way of instilling fundamental understanding in most living creatures. Words, signals, signs work to a limited extent but pain works at almost a genetic level. Sure we've all heard the fable of people who claim that they absolutely refused to do the right thing because their parents smacked them but that when their parents chose to reason with them, they then changed.but the truth is that these people chose to behave better in order to stubbornly disprove the validity of the canning. in other words the canning still indirectly worked.

Some of the rudest people I've met have been Swedish, Norwegians and Americans. Besides, words mostly work if you have the finances to secretly make amends for the disastrous repercussions of words.

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Re: Does Flogging Have A Place In Modern Nigerian Society? by INDESTRUCTABLEX(m): 11:23am On May 25, 2013
ogugua88: [size=13pt]I hate the act of flogging. My dad flogged us when we were younger and I always found it stupid and heartless. It was very saddening and I believed my father didn't love my siblings and I. Sometimes I think back now that I'm adult, and I see no reason for any of it. I can't attribute any good thing that I am to flogging.

I've already vowed not to flog or spank my children. I don't want them to reflect in adulthood and have moments of disdain or disappointment for me the way I have for my dad sometimes.[/size]
Re: Does Flogging Have A Place In Modern Nigerian Society? by INDESTRUCTABLEX(m): 11:23am On May 25, 2013
ogugua88: [size=13pt]I hate the act of flogging. My dad flogged us when we were younger and I always found it stupid and heartless. It was very saddening and I believed my father didn't love my siblings and I. Sometimes I think back now that I'm adult, and I see no reason for any of it. I can't attribute any good thing that I am to flogging.

I've already vowed not to flog or spank my children. I don't want them to reflect in adulthood and have moments of disdain or disappointment for me the way I have for my dad sometimes.[/size]

You are on your own... I just can't believe Nigerians are impaired in reasoning. I can count the number of times my dad beat me mercilessly. I can't count the number of times my mum flogged me. Yet in all of that, I am way better. U can't compare the morals of a child that was flogged to those that were not. Flogging is the only way. It has been from the beginning and will always be.
Take our fore fathers for example. Do u agree that the world is gradually loosing it norms and values?
Before now divorce was a shame, same sex marriage was also a shame. Now pple are proud to say they have divorced 5 times or push for same sex marriage.
1c you leave ur roots, you become confused. Wo, I dey beat my cousin and after that I tell him y I do so. So you better shine your eye... Before you start regretting.

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Re: Does Flogging Have A Place In Modern Nigerian Society? by jabbo(m): 11:27am On May 25, 2013
It's biblical to discipline a child.
Proverbs 13:24 says "He who keeps back his rod is unkind to his son: the loving father gives punishment with care". If people say they are against it then they are against the Bible as well, which is the word of God. While growing up in the North, our mum and dad do not hesitate to discipline us when we do things we have been warned not to do. That of course has molded us into better people today. The most important thing is you should discipline that child in righteousness.

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Re: Does Flogging Have A Place In Modern Nigerian Society? by afangide(m): 11:37am On May 25, 2013
'SPARE THE ROD AND SPOIL THE CHILD' That's a word from the bible, so its just a case of moderation
Re: Does Flogging Have A Place In Modern Nigerian Society? by lonelydora: 11:47am On May 25, 2013
FOOLISHNESS IS BOUND IN THE HEART OF A CHILD, BUT THE ROD(NOT CANE OR KOBOKO BUT ROD, I MEAN ROD) OF CORRECTION WILL DRIVE IT FAR AWAY FROM HIM....BOOK OF PROVERBS. ALSO SPARE THE ROD AND SPOIL THE CHILD.
Re: Does Flogging Have A Place In Modern Nigerian Society? by Originalsly: 11:53am On May 25, 2013
It would be nice if you can raise your child without flogging. Some children just need to be flogged for them to think about consequences before taking any action.By the time they are 14 they would already be making better decisions.With all the modern and expert ways of raising a child without flogging as practised in most US states....I am sure that if you randomly take 100 14 yr olds from New York City and 100 from Lagos..the mostly flogged ones from Lagos would be far more disciplined than those from NY. Is it not the same unflogged ones first to join gangs and go dish out violence and death to their peers and elders and even their parents? Spare the rod and spoil the child....same goes for yesterday, today and tomorrow.

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Re: Does Flogging Have A Place In Modern Nigerian Society? by ISBLIAC(m): 11:57am On May 25, 2013
I think its perfectly normal to flog a child if he/she errs.But what i think should be done is that you should dialogue with then in a loving but stiff manner not to do it again and if they do,feel free to flog the belzeebub out of em.(This way,they'll learn how to use dialogue and aggression whenever it's needed)
Re: Does Flogging Have A Place In Modern Nigerian Society? by Ishilove: 12:05pm On May 25, 2013
Yes. Flogging can never ever lose it's relevance in our society. I was soundly trashed by my mom while growing up and today, I am a psychologically and emotionally stable adult angry

Even the bible states that 'foolishness is bound in the heart of a child, but the rod of correction shall drive it far from him'

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Re: Does Flogging Have A Place In Modern Nigerian Society? by destino24(m): 12:06pm On May 25, 2013
~Bluetooth:

Spanking is a Nigerian culture and I'm not sure you can take that away from them irrespective of their level of education.I don't believe in granting children absolute right to be wayward and useless to the society.

Maybe the Adebolajos won't have become terrorists if their parents had spanked that spirit of terror from their blood with a koboko while growing up.Well,Koboko is actually used to reset children to their default settings. grin

some people are armed robbers and terrorists cos of the amount of koboko strokes they received as a method of correction during their childhood days...i dont support it, at all!!

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Re: Does Flogging Have A Place In Modern Nigerian Society? by Lekmosh(m): 12:16pm On May 25, 2013
Flogging should never be abandoned here in Nigeria. Everyones culture is very different. If you don't flog those children at times,they will keep taking you for granted. It's just that it must not be flogging! flogging!! everytime. Introduce some punishments sometimes.
Re: Does Flogging Have A Place In Modern Nigerian Society? by LordReed(m): 12:16pm On May 25, 2013
Children must be taught that there are consequences for their actions so that they can become responsible adults. If a child does well he/she should be rewarded, if. Child misbehaves he/she should be punished. Caning/flogging should be used to show consequence to bad behaviour especially in these modern things were permissiveness is all the rage, remind children that there is such as taking responsibility for your actions.
Re: Does Flogging Have A Place In Modern Nigerian Society? by Litmus: 12:19pm On May 25, 2013
Middle-class people, with the large homes, influences and contacts in society that their children ultimately benefits from, are the once who most advocate ending smacking.
Re: Does Flogging Have A Place In Modern Nigerian Society? by aminho(m): 12:21pm On May 25, 2013
Hmm

Re: Does Flogging Have A Place In Modern Nigerian Society? by LordReed(m): 12:22pm On May 25, 2013
destino24:

some people are armed robbers and terrorists cos of the amount of koboko strokes they received as a method of correction during their childhood days...i dont support it, at all!!

There is a difference between correction and wickedness. I do not know of anyone who suffered the punishments I suffered as a kid who became an armed robber. Sometimes people say things like this to gain sympathy when in actual fact they fully understood what they were getting into. I do not believe it is a enough reason to have flogging proscribed.
Re: Does Flogging Have A Place In Modern Nigerian Society? by destino24(m): 12:29pm On May 25, 2013
Lord_Reed:

There is a difference between correction and wickedness. I do not know of anyone who suffered the punishments I suffered as a kid who became an armed robber. Sometimes people say things like this to gain sympathy when in actual fact they fully understood what they were getting into. I do not believe it is a enough reason to have flogging proscribed.

there is a clear difference between flogging as a correctional method and flogging as a child abuse technique...
some parents have blurred that line.
I'v seen a parent that used koboko on his daugther, the girl's back was goddamn aweful...
filled with stripes... ...just like it was designed
Re: Does Flogging Have A Place In Modern Nigerian Society? by kekilika: 12:29pm On May 25, 2013
no time. i don dey soak the cane inside kerosene dey wait for my unborn children. my love and my cane will go hand-in-hand.

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Re: Does Flogging Have A Place In Modern Nigerian Society? by destino24(m): 12:37pm On May 25, 2013
kekilika: no time. i don dey soak the cane inside kerosene dey wait for my unborn children. my love and my cane will go hand-in-hand.

some parents dont flog(with love) to correct their children... they flog to unleash the anger in them on their children... and of course, that makes them feel better

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