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Re: UK Ends Free NHS Care For Foreign Students & Immigrants by jaybee3(m): 10:50am On Oct 07, 2013
Well
Re: UK Ends Free NHS Care For Foreign Students & Immigrants by DisGuy: 10:51am On Oct 07, 2013
pappilo:

What is anti-immigrant about asking people not entitled to a service to pay for it? I know this is something foreign to Nigerians as you lot are used to not paying for services used e.g electricity, water,

I think students should be exempted from the proposal

I think visitors should be made to buy health insurance though just like other European countries

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Re: UK Ends Free NHS Care For Foreign Students & Immigrants by TonySpike: 10:52am On Oct 07, 2013
I don't think it is out of place for foreign students and immigrants to pay for their personal medical insurance. After all, it is not their country and they aren't citizens. The last time I checked, a foreign student in South Africa shells out about R3500 (NGN 56,000) annually for their medical insurance. There should be no free meal at the expense of their host country...enough said!

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Re: UK Ends Free NHS Care For Foreign Students & Immigrants by Symphony007: 10:53am On Oct 07, 2013
unmask: Nice development..... Before anybody cries foul... If the illegals didn't abuse their system first, the system won't seek to abuse them
then seek out and deal specifically with those immigrants who abuse the system. Don't purnish innocent once who work hard and want a better life. After all is said and done. Even the government know that immigrants are essential. It's just like the u.s, they claim they hate mexican immigrants, but if not for them, who will spend hours havesting a giant farm for a few bucks. How many u.s citizens will do that?

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Re: UK Ends Free NHS Care For Foreign Students & Immigrants by bemagnify: 10:54am On Oct 07, 2013
did is a wake up cal to our sleeping govt to step up wit d development of our dear country.... abeg we nid more stiff and strict rules in Uk...
Re: UK Ends Free NHS Care For Foreign Students & Immigrants by 9jauk: 10:54am On Oct 07, 2013
Sincerely Uk university standard is amazing, having said that, , Uk university tuition fees is over priced, I hope this looters in Nigerian government will rescue our educational sector, Nigerian has volumes of Professionals in diaspora that can make a drastical impact in getting things running but no; the Atmosphere in Gidi is completely Mad!!!

I was shocked to find out that head of GP where I got registered is a Nigerian man running things for Oyinbos, , Apparently is
been away for 20years after a lengthy conversation with d Surgeon he said things has gone worse in Nigeria,all the governmental department is full of
Rogues, what's the point of relocating.

Rather sad millions of Nigerians became economic immigrant world wide:I learnt Nigerians has been bared from US green card finks shocked ba tan"

Amagamating Nigeria was a fraud, obviously we all xan see that now, results of forceful marriage.
Re: UK Ends Free NHS Care For Foreign Students & Immigrants by ThaProphet(m): 10:57am On Oct 07, 2013
Oh UK! This is definitely a move motivated by the forthcoming elections. It is normal. Any country going through difficult finacial times have always blamed immigrants, even Nigeria (Ghana must go).

The problem however is that in recent times, the biggest wave of immigrants are coming from the EU. These immigrants are putting an even bigger stress on the social services but the UK cannot really do anything about them due to being a part of the EU (free movement).

So, the only group of people to transfer this aggression on is the non-EU immigrants. It is easier to create laws that are unfavourable to them. Sadly, if they kick out all non-EU illegal immigrants, the problem will still persist. That is why this is election/campaign related. They need to show people that they are doing something, anything about it.

AU should take notes from the EU. AU needs to work better at protecting its people's interests on the continent, just like the EU is protecting the interest of their people on their own continent.

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Re: UK Ends Free NHS Care For Foreign Students & Immigrants by DisGuy: 10:59am On Oct 07, 2013
Symphony007: then seek out and deal specifically with those immigrants who abuse the system. Don't purnish innocent once who work hard and want a better life. After all is said and done. Even the government know that immigrants are essential. It's just like the u.s, they claim they hate mexican immigrants, but if not for them, who will spend hours havesting a giant farm for a few bucks. How many u.s citizens will do that?

innocent people won't be punished, everybody irespective of status will still be treated for serious illness and so on- unlike the US they will never turn anyone back

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Re: UK Ends Free NHS Care For Foreign Students & Immigrants by PureOhio(f): 10:59am On Oct 07, 2013
...... about time. I knew the free for all health care thing was coming to bite them in aśś.
Immigrants in USA are required to have health insurance and even South Africa undecided
The usa even turn their own citizens back for not having insurance (not saying it's appropriate )
Re: UK Ends Free NHS Care For Foreign Students & Immigrants by optimusprime2(m): 10:59am On Oct 07, 2013
let them just wait, these laws will backfire on the EPL...
Re: UK Ends Free NHS Care For Foreign Students & Immigrants by Kairoseki77: 11:02am On Oct 07, 2013
ThaProphet: Oh UK! This is definitely a move motivated by the forthcoming elections. It is normal. Any country going through difficult finacial times have always blamed immigrants, even Nigeria (Ghana must go).

The problem however is that in recent times, the biggest wave of immigrants are coming from the EU. These immigrants are putting an even bigger stress on the social services but the UK cannot really do anything about them due to being a part of the EU (free movement).

So, the only group of people to transfer this aggression on is the non-EU immigrants. It is easier to create laws that are unfavourable to them. Sadly, if they kick out all non-EU illegal immigrants, the problem will still persist. That is why this is election/campaign related. They need to show people that they are doing something, anything about it.

AU should take notes from the EU. AU needs to work better at protecting its people's interests on the continent, just like the EU is protecting the interest of their people on their own continent.

The AU will need to fund itself before it can protect our interests.

China, the US, and the EU pay 60% of the AU budget.

He who pays the piper dictates the tune...

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Re: UK Ends Free NHS Care For Foreign Students & Immigrants by daylae(m): 11:03am On Oct 07, 2013
manmustwac: Our Senators should stopping running to England anytime they catch a cold & do more to improve their own hospitals in their oen country
touch screen probs.

@topic: EU citizens are exempted tho.
Re: UK Ends Free NHS Care For Foreign Students & Immigrants by DisGuy: 11:04am On Oct 07, 2013
optimus-prime1:
let them just wait, these laws will backfire on the EPL...

How cheesy

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Re: UK Ends Free NHS Care For Foreign Students & Immigrants by Symphony007: 11:04am On Oct 07, 2013
Dis Guy:

innocent people won't be punished, everybody irespective of status will still be treated for serious illness and so on- unlike the US they will never turn anyone back
the u.s and every other industrial nation. does that turn anybody who comes to the emergency room back, even if they don't have insurance. The issue her to terminal or recurring illnesses.
Re: UK Ends Free NHS Care For Foreign Students & Immigrants by pappilo(m): 11:07am On Oct 07, 2013
Symphony007: what rubbish...if not for immigrants who will do some of the odd jobs in the u.k? Who will work over 5 jobs with meager pay. These people play a vital role in the running of the country. Which odinary british citizen will work in a hot fast food kitchen for hours and get a few quids as salary? They will revolt and labour unions will swoop in. But these immigrants do all those odd jobs for companies will in turn pay fat taxes to the government.

Apart from this, cameron's government has gone the extra mile to harass immigrants, both legal and illegal and it is clearly because he is scared of UKIP, and the prospects of him being a one term p.m!

You are chatting rubbish. I am an immigrant (legal). I have had an ambulance come out to me about 4 times and had 2 children on the NHS. All completely free. I pay my taxes and I am entitled to it. My sister came over, had her children here and paid full price because she wasnt entitled to a free service. It costs money to run the NHS and if you havent contributed into it you have no righy to draw from it. Hold your leaders accountable. They all run here to treat minor ailments with your money, Tinunbu, PEJ, Sullivan Chime, Yar Adua, Suntai, Atiku to name a few.

Bear in mind, the NHS will take care of anybody that presents himself at a hospital, illegal or not. They will only try to recover costs after you've been discharged. I believe the current successful recovery rate is under 5%. Now compare this with Nigeria where an accident victim fast losing blood MUST pay a registration fee and deposit before being attended to.

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Re: UK Ends Free NHS Care For Foreign Students & Immigrants by ifebosco: 11:08am On Oct 07, 2013
dasparrow: @Post

The UK is making it very obvious that they don't want foreigners in their country anymore especially the illegal ones. There are loads of opportunities here on the African continent. Most parts of Europe are basting in their past glory ever since the global recession hit. So, it will be wise for Nigerians to look elsewhere for perceived 'greener pastures.'
smart guy who sees the future
Re: UK Ends Free NHS Care For Foreign Students & Immigrants by Nobody: 11:11am On Oct 07, 2013
I lived in the UK for a year recently. Honestly it was amazing and I would really recommend people to go to the UK but not for long term. After a while it gets old and boring, besides it is very cold. The standard of living is pretty high too. I cannot imagine an illegal immigrant living there. It was tough enough for me to live there legally talkless of when people dont have papers. I wont be surprised if they commit suicide.

Anyways currently in the Caribbean for a year, loving the weather and the people. Moving to Canada next year and then the US after that. I am International!!!! grin grin grin

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Re: UK Ends Free NHS Care For Foreign Students & Immigrants by pappilo(m): 11:12am On Oct 07, 2013
Dis Guy:

I think students should be exempted from the proposal

I think visitors should be made to buy health insurance though just like other European countries

I came here as a student and was allowed to use the NHS. If I was asked to pay a paltry £200 for medical insurance to use the NHS, I wouldnt have thought twice about it. Students pay thousands of pounds for fees, accomodation and living expenses per year. £200 as insurance for your well being should be a non-issue

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Re: UK Ends Free NHS Care For Foreign Students & Immigrants by ifebosco: 11:13am On Oct 07, 2013
pappilo:

You are chatting rubbish. I am an immigrant (legal). I have had an ambulance come out to me about 4 times and had 2 children on the NHS. All completely free. I pay my taxes and I am entitled to it. My sister came over, had her children here and paid full price because she wasnt entitled to a free service. It costs money to run the NHS and if you havent contributed into it you have no righy to draw from it. Hold your leaders accountable. They all run here to treat minor ailments with your money, Tinunbu, PEJ, Sullivan Chime, Yar Adua, Suntai, Atiku to name a few.

Bear in mind, the NHS will take care of anybody that presents himself at a hospital, illegal or not. They will only try to recover costs after you've been discharged. I believe the current successful recovery rate is under 5%. Now compare this with Nigeria where an accident victim fast losing blood MUST pay a registration fee and deposit before being attended to.
nobody is trying to compare nigeria to britain,just that there colonized some of this countries and steal their comon wealth years back,they should not be to hard on them today.

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Re: UK Ends Free NHS Care For Foreign Students & Immigrants by Afam4eva(m): 11:18am On Oct 07, 2013
Why did Jonathan remove Gbenga Ashiru. He's the one that knows how to deal with these people.
Re: UK Ends Free NHS Care For Foreign Students & Immigrants by ifebosco: 11:18am On Oct 07, 2013
usmsam: I lived in the UK for a year recently. Honestly it was amazing and I would really recommend people to go to the UK but not for long term. After a while it gets old and boring, besides it is very cold. The standard of living is pretty high too. I cannot imagine an illegal immigrant living there. It was tough enough for me to live there legally talkless of when people dont have papers. I wont be surprised if they commit suicide.

Anyways currently in the Caribbean for a year, loving the weather and the people. Moving to Canada next year and then the US after that. I am International!!!! grin grin grin
i hope you learn something that can help africans,not the type of dimeji bankole,

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Re: UK Ends Free NHS Care For Foreign Students & Immigrants by Nobody: 11:20am On Oct 07, 2013
hustla: Please how can I comment on this thread?
Thankz
I smell weed grin

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Re: UK Ends Free NHS Care For Foreign Students & Immigrants by jaybee3(m): 11:22am On Oct 07, 2013
Afam4eva: Why did Jonathan remove Gbenga Ashiru. He's the one that knows how to deal with these people.
Do we blame GEJ again?
Re: UK Ends Free NHS Care For Foreign Students & Immigrants by DisGuy: 11:23am On Oct 07, 2013
pappilo:

I came here as a student and was allowed to use the NHS. If I was asked to pay a paltry £200 for medical insurance to use the NHS, I wouldnt have thought twice about it. Students pay thousands of pounds for fees, accomodation and living expenses per year. £200 as insurance for your well being should be a non-issue

Students already contribute to the economy thats why they should be exempted, chances are majority of them dont actually need specialist care

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Re: UK Ends Free NHS Care For Foreign Students & Immigrants by DisGuy: 11:24am On Oct 07, 2013
Afam4eva: Why did Jonathan remove Gbenga Ashiru. He's the one that knows how to deal with these people.

Sorry, what policies did Ashiru impliment that dealt with these people in the past?

Nigerians are still paying deposit to go to SA arent they?
Re: UK Ends Free NHS Care For Foreign Students & Immigrants by areaboi: 11:25am On Oct 07, 2013
I've been a Nigerian student here for a year and the half now and i'm amongst the student who are not entitled to a PSW extension. I can tell you i regret coming to the UK to study, i swear down i feel like fucking my agent up. The issue is this, why would you pay 3 million for tuition fee when you're not going to benefit from the system after studying?. Whereas other students in Canada and US are given the opportunity. Moreover, you're placed on 20 hours per week, that's big time slavery as you'll find it hard to pay house rent and bills not to even talk of feeding and some other miscellaneous expenses. Infact, where's the job. I stayed for 5 months before i could manage to get a CLEANING JOB!!. Yes its as bad as that, WHO N COME TO KNOW men!!. Even getting a good related to your field is far more problematic, with all your certifications and qualifications experience matters here a lot. I can categorically tell you most Nigerian students on PSW are doing menial jobs just a few are given the professional jobs. UK is not like Nigeria where you can go and meet one aunty Tola to borrow you 50 pounds not to talk of give, here there's nothing like relatives. Relatives only come to the picture if you're doing well. Too many tori, its a bad experience.

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Re: UK Ends Free NHS Care For Foreign Students & Immigrants by coogar: 11:27am On Oct 07, 2013
GustavoFring:
grin grin grin grin grin grin grin cheesy

Them no reach.

We don't die, We Multiply......and nack their sisters as well

the last vestige of hope in the UK has just died. no more free health for immigrants? time to move to cambodia.

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Re: UK Ends Free NHS Care For Foreign Students & Immigrants by ifebosco: 11:29am On Oct 07, 2013
areaboi: I've been a Nigerian student here for a year and the half now and i'm amongst the student who are not entitled to a PSW extension. I can tell you i regret coming to the UK to study, i swear down i feel like fucking my agent up. The issue is this, why would you pay 3 million for tuition fee when you're not going to benefit from the system after studying?. Whereas other students in Canada and US are given the opportunity. Moreover, you're placed on 20 hours per week, that's big time slavery as you'll find it hard to pay house rent and bills not to even talk of feeding and some other miscellaneous expenses. Infact, where's the job. I stayed for 5 months before i could manage to get a CLEANING JOB!!. Yes its as bad as that, WHO N COME TO KNOW men!!. Even getting a good related to your field is far more problematic, with all your certifications and qualifications experience matters here a lot. I can categorically tell you most Nigerian students on PSW are doing menial jobs just a few are given the professional jobs. UK is not like Nigeria where you can go and meet one aunty Tola to borrow you 50 pounds not to talk of give, here there's nothing like relatives. Relatives only come to the picture if you're doing well. Too many tori, its a bad experience.
nigerians after studies go back home and make good money,too much oportunities in nigeria.

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Re: UK Ends Free NHS Care For Foreign Students & Immigrants by Naijamericana: 11:30am On Oct 07, 2013
Free healthcare? In America that one does not exist. Everyone must pay. And if you dont pay, abeg comot for my office! cool

And no, we do not accept obamacare.
Re: UK Ends Free NHS Care For Foreign Students & Immigrants by ifebosco: 11:32am On Oct 07, 2013
Naijamericana: Free healthcare? In America that one does not exist. Everyone must pay. And if you dont pay, abeg comot for my office! cool

And no, we do not accept obamacare.
capitalist mentality,only for the rich
Re: UK Ends Free NHS Care For Foreign Students & Immigrants by crackhaus: 11:36am On Oct 07, 2013
fckyourman: £200 for me to us NHS. This UK is a stupid country, if all the immigrant leaves the economy will crash. Let them try it.
Just listen to yourself talk, this is the exact same attitude that Africans (especially Nigerians) are despised for. We think we are more important and useful than we actually are, we think every country we travel to should become a mini-Nigeria like it is our right. Prof. Wole Soyinka calls it the 'entitlement mentality', and it is something most young Nigerians feel within themselves.
My question for you is, how exactly do we (Nigerians) contribute to their economy? Because last I checked, UK born Nigerians don't speak the way you spoke, it is purely the Nigerian immigrants that carry their 'sense of entitlement' into another man's house.
I'm not supporting the move but call a spade a spade, if immigration decides (not that it officially will) to embargo Nigerian immigrants into the UK regardless of why they're going, their economy looses nothing...don't deceive yourself.

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Re: UK Ends Free NHS Care For Foreign Students & Immigrants by Nobody: 11:39am On Oct 07, 2013
pappilo:

I came here as a student and was allowed to use the NHS. If I was asked to pay a paltry £200 for medical insurance to use the NHS, I wouldnt have thought twice about it. Students pay thousands of pounds for fees, accomodation and living expenses per year. £200 as insurance for your well being should be a non-issue

It is long time coming - this differentiated NHS.

As with most new policies, though, I think you will likely to find the devil is in the detail.

Under the government's plan, foreigners coming to Britain will have to pay at least £200 to access free hospital care and pay a charge every time they visit a GP
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