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Re: Seriously, Doctors Are Small gods - Funke Egbemode (Sun News) by armadeo(m): 6:38pm On Jul 10, 2014
blink182: Please look up the meaning of satire and sarcasm, that's what the article is about.

That's a nurse. Simple comprehension. All she saw was drz and gods in the same sentence and she went on rampage.
Re: Seriously, Doctors Are Small gods - Funke Egbemode (Sun News) by obeski13(m): 6:44pm On Jul 10, 2014
annoymous:

You first. Naija doctors don't need customised plates. That is not on the list of things they request of the govt. That was a request by the NMA before the strike and it didn't go down well with most doctors. If doctors are fools, what does that make you?
.it is not true dat d demand for customized plate number didnt go down Well with d doctors.d demand was outrightly rejected by road safety

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Re: Seriously, Doctors Are Small gods - Funke Egbemode (Sun News) by Joenz(m): 6:44pm On Jul 10, 2014
joker5180: spot on; never grant any union's demands in isolation but federal ministry of health keeps issueing circulars full of confusion.
for example following threats by JOHESU the FMOH issued a circular last month for placement of medical lab. scientist pupils/interns at a salary level equal to that of a lab. scientist that has just joined the service after NYSC. ALL the federal hospitals are presently having difficulty inplementing this circular, when one of the MDs asked a minitry official the reply was " it is not meant to be inplemented but issued just to doused tension"
Why are you bringing another dimension to the discuss?If so,why hasn't NMA gotten a circularisation of an agreement to implement its 24 demands even if its for not implementation but merely to douse tension?You all keep misleading the public like non-drs have not always been appointed consultants before prof Onyebuchi Chukwu stopped it muttering words like consultancy is exclusively preserved for the drs.I believe you aware of NMA dropping 21 of its previous spurious demands,pursuing just three nw.We stay calm and await how the imbroglio ends.

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Re: Seriously, Doctors Are Small gods - Funke Egbemode (Sun News) by InvertedHammer: 6:45pm On Jul 10, 2014
Doctors in Nigeria deserve to be paid well especially the specialists. My beef is that most of these folks got into M&S because their parents wanted them to be doctors for egotistical reasons.

I was walking some doctors at Asokoro Gen. Hospital through the basics of ABG(arterial blood gas) analysis and its clinical applications. To my chargrin, they have no clues about what the hell I was talking about outside glancing over it in the textbooks. Are these the doctors that treat patients in the hospital?

Nigeria should train their doctors well and pay them better. Until then, it is pointless engaging in this argument because I believe doctors in Nigeria are currently earning what they are worth. Most of them should be trained more in invasive procedures as well.
Re: Seriously, Doctors Are Small gods - Funke Egbemode (Sun News) by Ashuale(m): 6:47pm On Jul 10, 2014
Name calling:stupid doctors, overhyped doctors, doctors don't know anything. Why not entrust your health in the hands of the nurses, laboratory scientist, pharmacists, etc .since they are equal to doctors as we are on strike.ignorance drive this nation.when doctors were negotiating with the government for over 6 months to no avail, nobody said anything ooo.

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Re: Seriously, Doctors Are Small gods - Funke Egbemode (Sun News) by Nobody: 6:48pm On Jul 10, 2014
I was watching the confab yesterday and a biased female delegate brought up this issue. She was trying to paint a scenario about Consultant Nurses being non-existent but she was so incoherent in her speech. She couldn't even make any vital point in her argument.

She was asked to quickly handover the mic when it was obvious she couldn't pass a point across.
Re: Seriously, Doctors Are Small gods - Funke Egbemode (Sun News) by obeski13(m): 6:49pm On Jul 10, 2014
smithoo: Federal Govt and the state Govt should just terminate the employments of all striking doctors and pay everyone off. They should start fresh recruitment to fill these vacancies with good but strict condition of service. NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE. It might take a long time to fill those vacancies but at the end those vacancies will be filled. Being a medical doctor does not make you a good administrator. All our health institutions are been headed by medical doctors and most are in shambles. These people must be humbled else they will hold this nation to ransom. People lifes have been lost due this strike, can they bring those lifes back after the strike is called off. Terminate them and let see if some will not shift ground and begged to be recalled. LAGOS STATE under once tried it but it was resolved amicably. This time let it be total.
.GOD BLESS U FOR UR BEAUTIFUL CONTRIBUTION
Re: Seriously, Doctors Are Small gods - Funke Egbemode (Sun News) by Amhappy(f): 6:51pm On Jul 10, 2014
Well who knows who will need a doctor at this moment,it maybe another doctor. Its same blood that runs through the veins of all men. Most of the issues in demand by the Doctors are administrative issues. NMA attaching MUST attached to a demand is disrespectful knowing fully well that these demands will be presented to the President. Are you commanding the Oga at the top? I wish the president will force NMA and Johesu to reconciled and harmonized their procedure. Meanwhile traditional doctors are the ones enjoying this strike ooo,their medicine dey sell like fire.

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Re: Seriously, Doctors Are Small gods - Funke Egbemode (Sun News) by tuffgongjo(m): 6:51pm On Jul 10, 2014
Lovely Dante-esque write up.
Nigerian doctor is d synonym for d words "Avarice"$"Greed".
Re: Seriously, Doctors Are Small gods - Funke Egbemode (Sun News) by iswallker(m): 6:51pm On Jul 10, 2014
Djtm: They are just pissing me off!!! Wtf? Our government is a very useless one for this sort of crap to be going on! What's their own concern about how much other specialists are paid? As long as you're paid what you're worth, you shouldn't care about what others earn. If a programmer has worked for a certain number of years, has so much experience under his belt, he has the right to become a consultant programmer. IMO, doctors are overhyped in Nigeria. Well, our leaders do not give a sh1t, so people can continue to die as long as they can afford to go abroad once they have a slight headache.

I dey hail ooo... consultant programmer.. grin grin
Re: Seriously, Doctors Are Small gods - Funke Egbemode (Sun News) by Nobody: 6:52pm On Jul 10, 2014
wellmax: Ours is a nations where people study medicine not with the intent of saving lives but for show off.
I wonder why you couldn't do same just for show up.

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Re: Seriously, Doctors Are Small gods - Funke Egbemode (Sun News) by mannyiyke: 6:53pm On Jul 10, 2014
Elliotwiz1: i know doctors are not getting enough but i'm totally against the idea of doctors going on strike. it's very wrong.
Who told u dat they're not well paid? They're well paid. Let's forget d fact dat we've corrupt govt, yet they're well paid. They don't have genuine reasons to embark on this strike. D problem with us is dat we're all greedy in this country particularly and in Africa generally. If they complain dat politicians' salaries are outrageous, y not join d murky waters of politics which are very dangerous, though i don't support politicians' jumbo pay either. If they're pro-masses, i wld've supported and urged them on against d govt if their 'main reason' for going on strike was because of d poor quality of our hospitals in terms of equipment and infrastructures. But, alas, it's solely for their personal aggrandizement.
Re: Seriously, Doctors Are Small gods - Funke Egbemode (Sun News) by Nobody: 6:53pm On Jul 10, 2014
Joenz: Why are you bringing another dimension to the discuss?If so,why hasn't NMA gotten a circularisation of an agreement to implement its 24 demands even if its for not implementation but merely to douse tension?You all keep misleading the public like non-drs have not always been appointed consultants before prof Onyebuchi Chukwu stopped it muttering words like consultancy is exclusively preserved for the drs.I believe you aware of NMA dropping 21 of its previous spurious demands,pursuing just three nw.We stay calm and await how the imbroglio ends.
of course NMA did obtained circulars but we rejected them, ask you usual spy at FMOH
Re: Seriously, Doctors Are Small gods - Funke Egbemode (Sun News) by tuffgongjo(m): 6:53pm On Jul 10, 2014
Ashuale: Name calling:stupid doctors, overhyped doctors, doctors don't know anything. Why not entrust your health in the hands of the nurses, laboratory scientist, pharmacists, etc .since they are equal to doctors as we are on strike.ignorance drive this nation.when doctors were negotiating with the government for over 6 months to no avail, nobody said anything ooo.
bros una own too much.
Re: Seriously, Doctors Are Small gods - Funke Egbemode (Sun News) by Nobody: 6:54pm On Jul 10, 2014
Onlinebizexpert:


NMA vs JOHESU
i doubt that
Re: Seriously, Doctors Are Small gods - Funke Egbemode (Sun News) by Joenz(m): 6:57pm On Jul 10, 2014
Mbediogu: the issue is not whether doctors are becoming gods like journalists who have been known to start and end wars thro the ages with what they write, it goes beyond that. Our calling is that of service, not speculation and unfortunately it is always a matter of life and death rather than of war and peace.
1.A consultant consults, in our case with patients. How will the convenient will it be for a sick and poor patient to serially consult from the medical doctor down to the consultant Johesu pharmacist, nurses, labman, cleaner etc? In terms of time, costs, convenience etc.
2. Differences sometimes arise between doctors approach to patient management but these are easily ressolved because of similarity in basic orientation and training. How are such differences (which are sure to be multiplied under Johesu plan), going to be ressolved?
3. The gang up against doctor is sure to start back-firing within hours should it be adopted and then journalists in their cavalier write-ups would remember who ought to have called others to order.
4. Maybe you dont know, all those clamoring to become 'consultants' already own big hospitals even in your village where all sorts of submedical things are done. The are just looking for a way to legalise things. Be informed.
pleas tell me,is the non-dr consultancy a new thing in Nigeria?Is it that they are just demanding it to start?Let us put things in perspective.

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Re: Seriously, Doctors Are Small gods - Funke Egbemode (Sun News) by bntY: 6:57pm On Jul 10, 2014
Besides,this is about patient care.other allied medical professionals have adept knowledge of their field ONLY,but that is just a fraction of patient care.A doctor on d other hand is trained to hav considerable knowledge in All other branches of medicine.it is dr4 pertinent dt a doc sees patient first and decides whose service of other sister professionals is required. after so many years of observation it is normal for a court clerk to presume he could replace d chief judge but we all know it will be foolhardy to put him in dt position.

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Re: Seriously, Doctors Are Small gods - Funke Egbemode (Sun News) by Nobody: 6:58pm On Jul 10, 2014
kindly read NMA 24 demands before commenting. the major reasons for this strike is not SALARY but a looming ANARCHY in the health sector.
Re: Seriously, Doctors Are Small gods - Funke Egbemode (Sun News) by Nobody: 7:00pm On Jul 10, 2014
obeski13: .it is not true dat d demand for customized plate number didnt go down with d doctors.d demand was outrightly rejected by road safety

I know nothing about the FRSC rejecting the request but all the doctors I spoke to the day the memorandum was released by the NMA felt it was laughable and i know quite a number of doctors.
Re: Seriously, Doctors Are Small gods - Funke Egbemode (Sun News) by Joenz(m): 7:02pm On Jul 10, 2014
bntY: First,let me commend her satire.it’s classical as
usual.Aunty funke,i appreciate your anger or is
it bitterness about d on-going strike.it
becomes worse when we loose someone to d
doctor’s tardiness.but let me add dt ur
approach is a simplistic or skewed view.The matter at hand is a step, though uncanny, to
forestall a looming bedlam in d health sector
or nig as a whole.The employer kindled the
fire when it acceded the request of one at the
expense of d other.when 2 employees are at
logger head d employer resolves it not by dancin to d tune of one without proper
scrutiny of d matter.The govt’s intervention is
a subtle way of encouraging apathy….why go
d hard way(studying and sacrificing as a
doctor) when you can get it d easy way(study
anything,just find ur way to the hospital and you will enjoy d same benefit as a doctor).
Why are you being decietful?Why are you economical with the truth?Prof Chukwu arbitrarily stopped consultancy of health workers,health workers took FG to court,court ordered that consultancy for health workers should be sustained,should FG disobey the court order?

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Re: Seriously, Doctors Are Small gods - Funke Egbemode (Sun News) by iswallker(m): 7:03pm On Jul 10, 2014
7sperovs:

U are a fool? who asked u to go to school for 6 years, i went to the NDA for 4 years and after graduation i still have to stand before a bullet each time there is crisis so that i can protect u the doctor, who should earn more..Soldier, that protect even the doctors or police that the CMD calls when armed men come into his house to collect what the CMD stole from the hospital..Genuine cause my foot...Soldiers cant go on strike, th epolice cant go onstrike even when they are paid rubbish, who sacrifices more and who should really be agitating for better pay..Doctors should go and sleep
Am pregnat. doctor say lets find out, Go for a test.
Am feeling feverish- Doctor says lets find out whats really wrong with you, go for a test.
Am very sure the so called lab technician, can tell what result is positive for any ailment and a pharmacist can tell u what drug and what dosage u need to get cured....Every consultant just gives u a list of (lab technician's) test that decides which of the (pharmacist's) drugs to use..It make one wonder what they can really do without test and drugs..
None of the medical/health sector can survive without the other, Doctors should stop feeling too important joor

I thought nda awards degrees... this one sounds quite empty..God we are in your hands oo!!
Re: Seriously, Doctors Are Small gods - Funke Egbemode (Sun News) by omegafeetal(m): 7:04pm On Jul 10, 2014
Rubbish talk! gods indeed! If u went to school for ten yrs and studied so many courses at a tym wats my business, afterall u ve been compensated wit ur entry level into d civil service. U studied wat u lyk and I did wat I lyk, but because u admitted d patient and offer some services doesnt make u sole healthcare provider in d team of professionals that must make every decision, including what n how other professionals must be remunerated. It will be very stupid n unprofessional of a sensible surgeon to carry out a surgery without d theatre nurse, d anaesthetist, and a whole lot of others just because he claimed to own d patient. "gods" indeed I wonder wat a soldier that endangers his life to save others should be called.
Re: Seriously, Doctors Are Small gods - Funke Egbemode (Sun News) by obeski13(m): 7:06pm On Jul 10, 2014
annoymous:

I know nothing about the FRSC rejecting the request but all the doctors I spoke to the day the memorandum was released by the NMA felt it was laughable and i know quite a number of doctors.
.am happy u knew that such a request was made.if it wasnt road safety that rejected d request,who did then?was it doctors that went to road safety to reject d demand?if d request was approved,do u think doctors wont embrace it
Re: Seriously, Doctors Are Small gods - Funke Egbemode (Sun News) by Sabretooth1(m): 7:07pm On Jul 10, 2014
annoymous:
And to think you have a brain ...
coming from a person who writes 'annoymous' for 'anonymous', is this supposed to hurt? Don't worry yourself trying to think about me. The spaghetti in your head can't handle it.
Re: Seriously, Doctors Are Small gods - Funke Egbemode (Sun News) by dking123: 7:08pm On Jul 10, 2014
Onlinebizexpert: Do I blame her no.........


If she knew that what it took me to pass a test of five marks in medical school is the same as what it took her to pass a degree exam of 100 marks

What is keshi doing that he is demanding a salary of 10 million naira per month, if it were to be doctors even churches and mosques would go on strike

What did a senator read that his salary can foot the salaries of 25 professors of medicine


If people knew that the fight to answer consultant by other medically inclined professions is simply a ploy to assume power

Having another consultant In the hospital is the same as having two captains in a ship

I will not blame funke she is trying to sell her newspaper by writing such a demeaning article to the people who can elongate the line between life and death after GOD

I don't expect funke to understand because unlike her I have to read 3 courses (anatomy,physiology,biochemistry) which lasts for about 15 years in just 18 months and am expected to be better than the person that reads just one of the aforementioned courses and yet such a person wants to assume a post that that takes a doctor an average of 25years to reach


I won't blame funke because maybe in her world a footballer like Mikel can demand for the title of world best player just like messi and c ronaldo by just playing back pass


U claim its greed but I think its the right thing

If I should be in charge of your life in your weakest moments don't you think I should be financially emotionally and psychologically stable....


Do I blame funke and some professional jambites on naira land for their articles and comments respectively.....no I wont



Why don't you whole lot contest for the position of GOD who created the universe because we can give both to humans

I am not in support of a situation whereby patients are punished for the crime of others but till we as a country get it right by giving honour to whom it is due we can never make a head way


To funke keep writing what you think is right afterall its your job and you are paid to do so



But one thing is sure IF TWO ELEPHANTS FIGHT THE GRASSES WILL SUFFER

That's all I can say for now, falter my points if you have the facts.........thanks again

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can't believe i wrote the above emotional statements, but the truth must be told
My sister, if every body down tools as often as you do.you will see that no profession is more important than the other, even your gateman can determine weather you will live or die.
Re: Seriously, Doctors Are Small gods - Funke Egbemode (Sun News) by Nicepoker(m): 7:10pm On Jul 10, 2014
KingTom: As an undergraduate, for six years I did not have time for myself, no girlfriend, some food, nothing. After graduation someone who knows nothing about medicine starts talking rubbish. Those saying we are show-offs. If e pain you, go back school!
grin grin grin
engineers rocks. We provide u guys wit the most sophisticated medical equipment u need for necessary diagnosis so bleep off
Re: Seriously, Doctors Are Small gods - Funke Egbemode (Sun News) by armadeo(m): 7:11pm On Jul 10, 2014
omegafeetal: Rubbish talk! gods indeed! If u went to school for ten yrs and studied so many courses at a tym wats my business, afterall u ve been compensated wit ur entry level into d civil service. U studied wat u lyk and I did wat I lyk, but because u admitted d patient and offer some services doesnt make u sole healthcare provider in d team of professionals that must make every decision, including what n how other professionals must be remunerated. It will be very stupid n unprofessional of a sensible surgeon to carry out a surgery without d theatre nurse, d anaesthetist, and a whole lot of others just because he claimed to own d patient. "gods" indeed I wonder wat a soldier that endangers his life to save others should be called.


Another comprehension issue. I am actually enjoying this thread because it shows some people don't even know what satire/ sarcasm is.

Either that or reading topics and concluding from there
We know those who the symptom fits.
Re: Seriously, Doctors Are Small gods - Funke Egbemode (Sun News) by Nobody: 7:12pm On Jul 10, 2014
smithoo: Federal Govt and the state Govt should just terminate the employments of all striking doctors and pay everyone off. They should start fresh recruitment to fill these vacancies with good but strict condition of service. NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE. It might take a long time to fill those vacancies but at the end those vacancies will be filled. Being a medical doctor does not make you a good administrator. All our health institutions are been headed by medical doctors and most are in shambles. These people must be humbled else they will hold this nation to ransom. People lifes have been lost due this strike, can they bring those lifes back after the strike is called off. Terminate them and let see if some will not shift ground and begged to be recalled. LAGOS STATE under once tried it but it was resolved amicably. This time let it be total.

i haff laff tire. so sack all the doctors, abi? so who dem go con employ? but I like this your comment, it only goes to show that a lot of people have no clue. The fact that Fashola did that, albeit unsuccessfully, is probably because the thought he could lure doctors from Neighboring states or from private hospitals. If you try that on a national scale, is it from Benin or Togo, you want to start recruiting doctors. or wait until the current crop of medical students in the colleges of medicine who by the way are being taught by monkeys and lizards, to graduate and learn the ropes of medicine by themselves. Common Sen I N C

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Re: Seriously, Doctors Are Small gods - Funke Egbemode (Sun News) by Nicepoker(m): 7:12pm On Jul 10, 2014
Op u are mentally unhealthy
Re: Seriously, Doctors Are Small gods - Funke Egbemode (Sun News) by aguiyid2nd(m): 7:13pm On Jul 10, 2014
Aunty Funke, as usual, you have delivered another satirical, parable-filled sermon on the mount. It's rather unfortunate how the value for human life has been reduced to a mere bargaining item by the employers and the employees of the nigerian health sector. God bless you till we are able to build a country that would be alive to the health needs of its citizenry, or disintergrate into one.
Re: Seriously, Doctors Are Small gods - Funke Egbemode (Sun News) by Joenz(m): 7:14pm On Jul 10, 2014
joker5180: of course NMA did obtained circulars but we rejected them, ask you usual spy at FMOH
This is laughable!which circulars and why is NMA still on strike?can you provide copies?ur a clown as ur name rightly suggests!
Re: Seriously, Doctors Are Small gods - Funke Egbemode (Sun News) by Nobody: 7:15pm On Jul 10, 2014
Sabretooth1: coming from a person who writes 'annoymous' for 'anonymous', is this supposed to hurt? Don't worry yourself trying to think about me. The spaghetti in your head can't handle it.

lol. The plan was never to have anonymous as my handle and if you know anything about common words, you would know that anonymous would have been taken long time before now. lemme break it down for you - its a hybrid word - annoy + anonymous = annoymous. genius, right? lol. i wasnt expecting you to get it right off the bat.

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