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Re: Is Traditional Marriage Complete Marriage? by Odunharry(m): 6:12am On Aug 09, 2014
Zedric: thats because most girls see white wedding as an avenue to show off but, technically, traditional wedding covers everything.
9gerians,Immitating d west since 1420

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Re: Is Traditional Marriage Complete Marriage? by kuntash: 6:19am On Aug 09, 2014
YorubaJesus: Marriage is just a piece of paper whether its cultural, legal, white or black. If two people are meant to be together, they will without the need of getting married.

The statement is almost 100% correct!

The koko of the matter and the reason of union is engulfed in ur statement.

But everywhere in the world, there exist elements of recognition of parents of those to be united , and hence , u consummate the union according to norms therein

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Re: Is Traditional Marriage Complete Marriage? by Amanwulu1(m): 6:59am On Aug 09, 2014
Mynd44: White wedding is a form of traditional wedding. Traditional wedding we borrowed from another culture.

I essence, if you do your traditional wedding and a "white" wedding, you just did two traditional weddings. Any wedding which is consumated by your church pastor(leader) is a church wedding. It does not matter if you wear white(or a gown or the groom wears a 3 piece suit) or not. It does not matter if you have it in church or not(you can have it in a hall and your pastor comes over to bless you with the church's backing)

Hell these days, traditional leaders have marriage registers which is domiciled with the Baale, local Oba or an recognised Traditional leader and you go there to sign it which makes it official(They report to the Local Governments)

I don't know why people love calling their traditional marriage "engagement" and their church wedding "wedding" it is just weird. When you have something called "Introduction" which is basically an engagement ceremony.
Re: Is Traditional Marriage Complete Marriage? by ammyluv2002(f): 7:26am On Aug 09, 2014
Odunharry:
where av u bn?
Here grin
Re: Is Traditional Marriage Complete Marriage? by Janetozi(f): 7:44am On Aug 09, 2014
YorubaJesus: Marriage is just a piece of paper whether its cultural, legal, white or black. If two people are meant to be together, they will without the need of getting married.
you need medical attention, ur brain have been infested with maggots. Guuuuuuush!

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Re: Is Traditional Marriage Complete Marriage? by Nobody: 8:22am On Aug 09, 2014
Janetozi: you need medical attention, ur brain have been infested with maggots. Guuuuuuush!

Young lady, there's no reason to be rude. You see, by their fruits, you shall know them. I certainly do not need medical attention but you need behavioral lessons and you need to change that profile picture too. #SMH #ItsNotByForce

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Re: Is Traditional Marriage Complete Marriage? by eldoradoxx: 8:52am On Aug 09, 2014
People most times ignorantly have to borrow money to organise 3 types of marriages which have only one effect. Traditional marriage(Customary marriage) is as valid (if not more valid) as Court /Church Wedding. Church or Court wedding are one and the same thing. Infact a proper church wedding starts from the Marriage Registry of the Court where the intending couple obtain license to marry and the 21 days marriage band is published for objection. If your church marriage lacks the above mentioned ingredients, simply know that the Marriage Certificate you have is invalid and all you did in Church was merely a Church Traditional Marriage and not a Marriage under the Act. If you wedded in Church properly, you re merely waisting your time and money conducting a second marriage in the Registry. If you have done Customary Marriage, Nigeria's law recognises this as a 100 % valid marriage. Infact Church Marriage has no biblical basis whatsoever. Church Marriage is simply English Traditional Marriage which the English people have enacted into law. Even in the law, there is no place it is stated that it must be inside a church. It must only be conducted by a licensed person and in a licensed place. So if your club has license to conduct marriage according to watever style they wish, why not. Infact a Muslim can conduct Marriage under the Marriage Act if the Imam obtains a license and the place of conduct of marriage is also licensed. The only limitation is that he must not marry more than one wife. So whether it is traditional alone you can afford, it is valid marriage before God and man. Any pastor that tells you traditional marriage is not valid and you must not touch your wife after traditional marriage until you do church wedding is a liar from the pit of hell. All Jesus attended at Cana of Galilee was Jewish traditional marriage and not church wedding. If you have plenty money u can do both.

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Re: Is Traditional Marriage Complete Marriage? by Meristem: 8:59am On Aug 09, 2014
ammyluv2002: Yeah! White & court wedding are just ceremonial. You can decide not to wed in the church but you must perform the traditional rites on a lady before she can be called your wife....is in the bible and as a Christian, I always go with my bible principles not trendy principles.

Although some say is ok to get a marriage blessing from a priest/pastor which isn't bad grin

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If not for our copy-copy mentality in Africa/Nigeria, the case should have been such that the couples simply CHOOSE ONE format. But culturally, we seem to have our feet in our mouths - A lady performs the full traditional rites of marriage, and then as if that were invalid, she starts agitating for "white wedding" and I'm like "why white? why not GREEN, PURPLE or BLUE wedding?" grin grin grin grin
We waste money REPEATING the same marriage rites in at least 3 forms, flushing millions of naira down the drain and then complain that there are no husbands or that the economy is bad. Rubbishhhhh

Something akin to burying someone traditionally, exhuming him/her and burying them again according to a FOREIGN culture/rite, then exhuming them again and burying them according to yet another tradition....

In fact, we are the only ones who show utter disregard for our own traditions, and utmost respect for others'

YEYE angry

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Re: Is Traditional Marriage Complete Marriage? by Gabygaby: 9:00am On Aug 09, 2014
Meristem:
1000 likes!
If not for our copy-copy mentality in Africa/Nigeria, the case should have been such that the couples simply CHOOSE ONE format. But culturally, we seem to have our feet in our mouths - A lady's performs the full traditional rites of marriage, and then as if that were invalid, she starts agitating for "white wedding" and I'm like "why white? why not GREEN, PURPLE or BLUE wedding?" grin grin grin grin
In fact, we are the only ones who show utter disregard for our own traditions, and utmost respect for others'
YEYE angry
ammyluv2002: Yeah! White & court wedding are just ceremonial. You can decide not to wed in the church but you must perform the traditional rites on a lady before she can be called your wife....is in the bible and as a Christian, I always go with my bible principles not trendy principles.

Although some say is ok to get a marriage blessing from a priest/pastor which isn't bad------------------------------------------------- You are confused and at the same time contradicting yourself,from your statement you does not regard wedding in the church and you said you are a christian. at the other hand you couldn't declare the one you fully support,in that case you are waiting for majority vote,negative or positive. This is a complete sign that someone is not groom into the spiritual guidelines of the church of which he/she claimed to be a member and this rampant among christian. NOW LET ME EXPLAIN IT TO YOU MAYBE IT WILL BE OF HELP IF REALLY YOU ARE NOT A HYPOCHRIST. Firstly ,Traditional marriage is a perfect spiritual arrangement on her own which will attract both physical and spiritual blessings from both parents of the new couple. secondly,church wedding is a sacrament (For we Catholics,it is the Sacrament of Marriage, or Holy Matrimony, is a public sign that one gives oneself totally to this other person. It is also a public statement about God: the loving union of husband and wife speaks of family values and also God's values.) this can be done in the church or any where considered to be sacred. NOW why is it done in the church? Just like baptism,(for we Catholics,the Sacrament of Baptism is the first step in a lifelong journey of commitment and discipleship. Whether we are baptized as infants or adults, Baptism is the Church's way of celebrating and enacting the embrace of God.) IT IS A TOTAL INITIATION INTO CHRISTENDOM which in theology means (the collective body of Christians throughout the world or throughout history) The issue here is if you are initiated or baptized in christian church you are obliged to obey the rules of initiation or you end up being mess up in life.so in the case of marriage you must wed in the church or as permited by the leaders of the church. failure to do that will amount to disobedient ,and the same Bible tell us christian that obedient is better than sacrifice. And if I may ask, is double or triple blessing a bad thing? if not why do people purposely fight the church unreasonably? Finally the two ceremonies have their great advantage and if you are a christian you are strongly advice to do the two completely so as to get the blessings from both and as well fulfill your obligation as a christian,God bless you as you do.

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Re: Is Traditional Marriage Complete Marriage? by lankieman: 9:03am On Aug 09, 2014
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Re: Is Traditional Marriage Complete Marriage? by Gabygaby: 9:06am On Aug 09, 2014
eldoradoxx: People most times ignorantly have to borrow money to organise 3 types of marriages which have only one effect. Traditional marriage(Customary marriage) is as valid (if not more valid) as Court /Church Wedding. Church or Court wedding are one and the same thing. Infact a proper church wedding starts from the Marriage Registry of the Court where the intending couple obtain license to marry and the 21 days marriage band is published for objection. If your church marriage lacks the above mentioned ingredients, simply know that the Marriage Certificate you have is invalid and all you did in Church was merely a Church Traditional Marriage and not a Marriage under the Act. If you wedded in Church properly, you re merely waisting your time and money conducting a second marriage in the Registry. If you have done Customary Marriage, Nigeria's law recognises this as a 100 % valid marriage. Infact Church Marriage has no biblical basis whatsoever. Church Marriage is simply English Traditional Marriage which the English people have enacted into law. Even in the law, there is no place it is stated that it must be inside a church. It must only be conducted by a licensed person and in a licensed place. So if your club has license to conduct marriage according to watever style they wish, why not. Infact a Muslim can conduct Marriage under the Marriage Act if the Imam obtains a license and the place of conduct of marriage is also licensed. The only limitation is that he must not marry more than one wife. So whether it is traditional alone you can afford, it is valid marriage before God and man. Any pastor that tells you traditional marriage is not valid and you must not touch your wife after traditional marriage until you do church wedding is a liar from the pit of hell. All Jesus attended at Cana of Galilee was Jewish traditional marriage and not church wedding. If you have plenty money u can do both.
--------------------------------------------------- You are confused and at the same time contradicting yourself,from your statement you does not regard wedding in the church and you said you are a christian. at the other hand you couldn't declare the one you fully support,in that case you are waiting for majority vote,negative or positive. This is a complete sign that someone is not groom into the spiritual guidelines of the church of which he/she claimed to be a member and this rampant among christian. NOW LET ME EXPLAIN IT TO YOU MAYBE IT WILL BE OF HELP IF REALLY YOU ARE NOT A HYPOCHRIST. Firstly ,Traditional marriage is a perfect spiritual arrangement on her own which will attract both physical and spiritual blessings from both parents of the new couple. secondly,church wedding is a sacrament (For we Catholics,it is the Sacrament of Marriage, or Holy Matrimony, is a public sign that one gives oneself totally to this other person. It is also a public statement about God: the loving union of husband and wife speaks of family values and also God's values.) this can be done in the church or any where considered to be sacred. NOW why is it done in the church? Just like baptism,(for we Catholics,the Sacrament of Baptism is the first step in a lifelong journey of commitment and discipleship. Whether we are baptized as infants or adults, Baptism is the Church's way of celebrating and enacting the embrace of God.) IT IS A TOTAL INITIATION INTO CHRISTENDOM which in theology means (the collective body of Christians throughout the world or throughout history) The issue here is if you are initiated or baptized in christian church you are obliged to obey the rules of initiation or you end up being mess up in life.so in the case of marriage you must wed in the church or as permited by the leaders of the church. failure to do that will amount to disobedient ,and the same Bible tell us christian that obedient is better than sacrifice. And if I may ask, is double or triple blessing a bad thing? if not why do people purposely fight the church unreasonably? Finally the two ceremonies have their great advantage and if you are a christian you are strongly advice to do the two completely so as to get the blessings from both and as well fulfill your obligation as a christian,God bless you as you do.
Re: Is Traditional Marriage Complete Marriage? by Meristem: 9:15am On Aug 09, 2014
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Na lie. Christian marriages must not be held in Churches. You need to evaluate whether ur thoughts are products of years of puritanical brainwashing or stark rationality. On February 14th every year, we all gallivant around claiming to be celebrating "Valantain Day". Do you know why St Valentine is so celebrated today(albeit in a twisted way by most)? Its because he wedded lovers in SECRET when it was prohibited. THERE IS NO SACRAMENT THAT MUST TAKE PLACE INSIDE A CHURCH TO BE VALID. Quote me on this. If you are so "christian" that you must have white man's wedding format to believe that you're married, then why not drop the traditional rites and stop bleeding your groom's pocket NEEDLESSLY? angry

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Re: Is Traditional Marriage Complete Marriage? by numericalguy(m): 9:35am On Aug 09, 2014
There are four sources of law in Nigeria:-
1) The Shari'a law (Islamic legal system)
2) The English law
3) The customary law
4) The common law

Any marriage conducted under any of the above legal system is legal.

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Re: Is Traditional Marriage Complete Marriage? by lonelydora: 9:56am On Aug 09, 2014
If not because of my parents and my in-laws, i wouldn't have done white wedding. Traditional and court marriage is okay for me.

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Re: Is Traditional Marriage Complete Marriage? by Meristem: 10:01am On Aug 09, 2014
Toosure70: is there place in d bible where marriage was celebrated in d church?

Ask them oh.

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Re: Is Traditional Marriage Complete Marriage? by Amya(f): 10:21am On Aug 09, 2014
salaksmana: Traditional marriage is complete because marriage only means when a man and woman agree to marry each other and the two families accepted, but it is not binding under the law that is why a court/white marriage is needed and also for the spiritual aspect of it, depending on your faith/religious belief.

You say traditonal marriage is complete, yet in the same breath you say it's not binding under the law. And you even got ignorant likes for this.

Traditional marriages are complete and BINDING under the Nigerian law. No other type of marriage is needed after the traditional marriage

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Re: Is Traditional Marriage Complete Marriage? by pheesayor(m): 11:04am On Aug 09, 2014
Mynd44: White wedding is a form of traditional wedding. Traditional wedding we borrowed from another culture.

I essence, if you do your traditional wedding and a "white" wedding, you just did two traditional weddings. Any wedding which is blessed by your church pastor(leader) is a church wedding. It does not matter if you wear white(or a gown or the groom wears a 3 piece suit) or not. It does not matter if you have it in church or not(you can have it in a hall and your pastor comes over to bless you with the church's backing)

Hell these days, traditional leaders have marriage registers which is domiciled with the Baale, local Oba or an recognised Traditional leader and you go there to sign it which makes it official(They report to the Local Governments)

I don't know why people love calling their traditional marriage "engagement" and their church wedding "wedding" it is just weird. When you have something called "Introduction" which is basically an engagement ceremony.

Gbam!!! at the bolded. This is exactly what I made my financee understand. What we call introduction is engagement but we have turned traditional wedding to the engagement. As the copycats that we are, relegating our own ways to the background just to show off.

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Re: Is Traditional Marriage Complete Marriage? by Nobody: 11:27am On Aug 09, 2014
Ma trad is a must, white will only be jara
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Re: Is Traditional Marriage Complete Marriage? by satuma10: 1:23pm On Aug 09, 2014
FOR ME A COMPLETE MARRIAGE IS TRADITIONAL BECAUSE IT IS THERE THAT BOTH PARENTS MEETS FOR A WITNESS AND THE BLESSINGS ALSO TAKES PLACE EVEN SOME PEOPLE INVITES THEIR PASTORS TO WITNESS MORESO U MAY GO TO CHURCH THEREAFTER FOR YOUR PASTORS' PRAYER WHICH IS SECONDARY MEANWHILE OUR PARENTS IN 60S AND 70S DID ONLY TRADITIONAL MARRIAGE AND ENJOYED LIFE MORE THAN WHAT WE ARE SUFFERING IN TODAY'S MARRIAGE .ASK YOURSELF THIS QUESTION;WHICH MARRIAGE DID CHRIST TURN WATER INTO WINE,TRADITIONAL,CHURCH OR COURT MARRIAGE.?REMEMBER NO GENUINE PASTOR WILL WED YOU WITHOUT TRADITIONAL MARRIAGE OR CAN U BUILD A HOUSE WITHOUT FOUNDATION?THANKS AND GOD BLESS

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Re: Is Traditional Marriage Complete Marriage? by garamah: 1:52pm On Aug 09, 2014
3- type of wedding traditional, white or Church and court, simple and you can only do one out the three otherwise is repetition. It's better to do the traditional wedding cos that's the real wedding others are just notice me, moreover doing a Church wedding is unbiblical as a Christian, traditional wedding is the God's designed type period. But if you want a certificate for international dealings, go for a court wedding.

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Re: Is Traditional Marriage Complete Marriage? by boxer022(m): 2:10pm On Aug 09, 2014
YorubaJesus: Marriage is just a piece of paper whether its cultural, legal, white or black. If two people are meant to be together, they will without the need of getting married.
I beg to disagree with you sir, in the igbo culture, if the introduction and traditional wedding does not take place, it means that the girl is not married even though the guy and the lady are living together till she dies. To the family and the kindred or town she is from their daughter is just dating that young man and is still single.

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Re: Is Traditional Marriage Complete Marriage? by boxer022(m): 2:20pm On Aug 09, 2014
As far as Igbo culture is concerned, the traditional wedding is a complete union of the bride and groom. My reasons are as follows:

(1) It is only in the traditional wedding that the parents of the girl who is to get married bless the new union.

(2) It is only in the traditional wedding that the opportune to pay the girls bride price.

(3) Couples can live together after their traditional marriage and start having kids.

(4) If traditional wedding not held and the white wedding is held then as far as Igbo culture is concerned the parents of both bride and groom CANNOT and WILL NOT attend such a gathering and to the parents of the girl, their daughter is not married.

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Re: Is Traditional Marriage Complete Marriage? by Nobody: 2:22pm On Aug 09, 2014
boxer022:
I beg to disagree with you sir, in the igbo culture if the introduction and traditional wedding does not take place, it means that the girl is not married even though the guy and the lady are living together till she dies. To the family and the kindred or town she is from their daughter is just dating that young man and is still single.


I agree the family won't accept her as their daughter or son if there isn't a traditional rite or marriage but you see a couple is made up of two people. When other peoples opinions come into the relationship, trouble comes. If two people choose not to get married then so be it. But in developed countries, they have live in partners, legal partners etc. Marriage is not a necessity.
Re: Is Traditional Marriage Complete Marriage? by boxer022(m): 2:33pm On Aug 09, 2014
YorubaJesus:

I agree the family won't accept her as their daughter or son if there isn't a traditional rite or marriage but you see a couple is made up of two people. When other peoples opinions come into the relationship, trouble comes. If two people choose not to get married then so be it. But in developed countries, they have live in partners, legal partners etc. Marriage is not a necessity.

As far as anybody is concerned whether Christian or Muslim, once their is no traditional right their daughter is not married and any other man that comes for her hand in marriage is very free to do so. You said in developed countries marriage is not a necessity, I know you mean like USA or UK etc. These developed countries do not do traditional rights before their daughter is married and it is a trend that they leave by and teach any country which they colonised.
Re: Is Traditional Marriage Complete Marriage? by DebateNigeria: 3:07pm On Aug 09, 2014
Mynd44: White wedding is a form of traditional wedding. Traditional wedding we borrowed from another culture.

I essence, if you do your traditional wedding and a "white" wedding, you just did two traditional weddings. Any wedding which is blessed by your church pastor(leader) is a church wedding. It does not matter if you wear white(or a gown or the groom wears a 3 piece suit) or not. It does not matter if you have it in church or not(you can have it in a hall and your pastor comes over to bless you with the church's backing)

Hell these days, traditional leaders have marriage registers which is domiciled with the Baale, local Oba or an recognised Traditional leader and you go there to sign it which makes it official(They report to the Local Governments)

I don't know why people love calling their traditional marriage "engagement" and their church wedding "wedding" it is just weird. When you have something called "Introduction" which is basically an engagement ceremony.
God bless you boss
Re: Is Traditional Marriage Complete Marriage? by justicemese: 3:17pm On Aug 09, 2014
[color=#000099][/color]Sit down here make una dey think bout marriage... undecided life na wedding wedding wedding? oga ogo dey come soon
Re: Is Traditional Marriage Complete Marriage? by ihedinobi2: 3:27pm On Aug 09, 2014
Yes. Reason is that marriage is a contract between two adults that empowers them to live together and support each other through the ever-changing conditions of life and breed together as well. This contract is typically witnessed and ratified by the families involved both for reasons of support and for protection for the individuals involved in the event of a default. Traditional marriage fulfills all of that. The single necessary benefit of a "white wedding" is the blessing of the Christian community and this benefit can be integrated into a traditional ceremony if the organizers can be imaginative enough to do so. All other benefits are cosmetic.

Of course, if you're not a Christian, the benefits of a "white wedding" are wholly cosmetic to you. You don't need them. You can have them just because.
Re: Is Traditional Marriage Complete Marriage? by ddeola: 4:12pm On Aug 09, 2014
Trad is 100% complete. That is the best and most important one because you guys have the blessings of the couple's parents and family members. Leave the west with their confusion

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Re: Is Traditional Marriage Complete Marriage? by Nobody: 4:34pm On Aug 09, 2014
Amya:

You say traditonal law is complete, yet in the same breath you say it's not binding under the law. And you even got ignorant likes for this.

Traditional marriages are complete and BINDING under the Nigerian law. No other type of marriage is needed after the traditional marriage
At traditional marriages they issue certificate? Do you even know what traditional marriage means? It is what most people refer to as "engagement". So after that, without going to court the law recognises them as couple?
Re: Is Traditional Marriage Complete Marriage? by Nnamdini(m): 4:41pm On Aug 09, 2014
Zedric: thats because most girls see white wedding as an avenue to show off but, technically, traditional wedding covers everything.

Wrong.tradional wedding doesn't cover everything.as long as you're a christain,a white wedding supercedes the traditional wedding
Re: Is Traditional Marriage Complete Marriage? by Nobody: 4:45pm On Aug 09, 2014
Nnamdini:

Wrong.tradional wedding doesn't cover everything.as long as you're a christain,a white wedding supercedes the traditional wedding
brainwashed motherfvcker

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