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Re: Should Working Wives Share Household Expenses With Their Husbands? by destante(f): 11:49am On Oct 07, 2014
I think a hybrid of all three models is good. a little of each. The point is, it shouldn't be too much about what must be at all times. But as the situation is at every point in the family life, the wife can interchange all the different roles.
Re: Should Working Wives Share Household Expenses With Their Husbands? by lastpage: 11:52am On Oct 07, 2014
[size=14pt]Definition of A WOMAN: Someone who wants "SOMETHING" but does not know "WHAT" she wants nor "HOW" to go about getting it![/size] grin grin grin

It seems to me, reading though the three models, that the woman never does ANYTHING for an ALTRUISTIC reason!

*If she contributes to household upkeep, its because she wants to claim equality and drag with the husband

*If she does not contribute, its because she thinks the man is not respecting her and is trying to undermine her authority in the house!!

*If the man decides to allow them to share financial responsibility, she says he is not "man-enough" to live up to his responsibility as the head of the family.

In all the three cases, all she thinks about is ME, ME and MYSELF!
shocked shocked shocked

I read a thread on here yesterday where some poster asked Why "MEN" are shirking away from getting married (legally especially).
I just smiled and thought, "You get what you pay for, You reap what you sow"!
Marriage will end-up the way WOMEN want it to end up
.

They can shift blame and point fingers at men ....all day long but at the end of the day, l foresee a time, in the very nearest future when "marrying a woman" will be like ..."who does that nowadays"!

Already, l have read about a few men who "paid to have a child from another 'woman-carrier' and the child is about 3yrs old now".
The woman is "just doing a job and rendering a service, for which she is paid for: SURROGACY, it is called.
Why would they need to marry a woman.... if they can "pay and get a child using their own spermatozoa?

Its a shameful trend but one that l realize is borne out of necessity!


Like on most issues, l always look beyond the periphery and try to take a leap into the future , so my opinion might not sit well with some people. I accept responsibility for that.

Lastpage!

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Re: Should Working Wives Share Household Expenses With Their Husbands? by Nicepoker(m): 11:57am On Oct 07, 2014
My gf currently occupy model one.
Re: Should Working Wives Share Household Expenses With Their Husbands? by josite: 11:57am On Oct 07, 2014
no.it is a taboo to expect her to share.cus if she shares the expense,you the husband may live long and your living long will defeat the game plan which is for you the hubby to run from pilaar to post to make ends meet and Bleep her with the remaining energry well well and die at 50 so sh can be mama lanlord.dont u get it.dont u get why husbands die first.
Re: Should Working Wives Share Household Expenses With Their Husbands? by HARDDON: 11:58am On Oct 07, 2014
jumzzy448:
model 3. let me work and keep my money. so if anything comes up and hubby is not readily available, i can shoulder the responsibility.

Ghost wify ! Here is to those who would rather watch u suffer n die claiming they don't hv only for them to buy the best coffin for ur buriah! angry angry

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Re: Should Working Wives Share Household Expenses With Their Husbands? by HARDDON: 12:08pm On Oct 07, 2014
MarvellousGod:
I don't stand anywhere! !!!!


I must make decisions with my husband, I must have a say.. we must talk things over, he can't just decide alone.... Nobody has the final say in a marriage, decisions should be reached by both couples. ..


btw, why are you men not disputing my first point?? undecided undecided

Your first point is nothing but a bait to turn your man into a she-male runt n all men would mos def resist this! Keep ur Kash . we were doing just fine , thanks. It is because of ur type we got the 3rd model.

God help that man that U WUD marry. Cos tlhe wud pay the bride price only for u to assume control d next day.
Re: Should Working Wives Share Household Expenses With Their Husbands? by Nobody: 12:18pm On Oct 07, 2014
dabossman:


Personally, the only part of your comment I don't totally agree with is saying "nobody has the final say". Somebody must make the game call and be responsible for it ultimately.

I'll give an example. Recently my wife and I had a three day long argument about letting our child resume school after the whole Ebola scare. Left to her the kid won't resume till January when we can be 100% sure all is well. I was of the opinion that it was now safe to go back to school and that the Ebola situation had been largely contained successfully. I told her I understood her concerns but I believe her position was based largely on fear and some misconceptions. I didn't see why the kid should lose a whole term on that basis. At the end of the day I had to make the call. She concurred grudgingly, and the child is back in school. Like I said in my previous post, it doesn't mean I don goof sometimes, but my wife knows I made the final call with good intentions after considering all our different opinions. And I admit it when I goof.

There have also been issues where I said "you know what, we'll do It your way". If things go wrong I don't blame her. I still take responsibility for making the call to do it her way. That's what is expected of a team leader, be it a CEO, football coach or hubby\parent. Someone must make the game call, otherwise issues will remain pending forever.
You did the right thing because you consulted her and the decision you finally reached was based on due considerations given to your various opinions. .... Some other man may have just told his wife, "the kids are starting school and that's it.He doesn't give the wife a right to opinion and that's where I have a problem.


Everything you said above shows you give your wife a voice and it's perfectly fine...Yeah, someone must still make the final decision at the end but such decisions should be based on mutual understanding/agreement. ... My only problem lies with men that declares and it stays that way irrespective of how the wife feels, afterall her opinion doesn't count and he's the man of the house..That's not how a family should be run.

cheers
Re: Should Working Wives Share Household Expenses With Their Husbands? by Nobody: 12:44pm On Oct 07, 2014
publicenemy:


Please can i marry you ?
grin grin grin grin .

But think the man should always have an edge in the final say thing,but it depends on how reasonable and responsible he is in his decision making.
Take for instance..I heard a woman narrate her ordeal on air on a radio station.

She and her husband was travelling at night with their kids in the car,they drove past about 4 guys whose vehicle broke down on the high way and the wife begged the husband to stop and help them,her husband refused stating that they could be criminals but the wife was insistent and unhappy and the husband not wanting to offend the wife by having the #FINAL SAY stopped and drove back to the guys. As soon as her husband got down and approached the guys to help them out one of the guys brought out a gun and shot him on the spot and he died.they were robbed of everything,kicked out of the vehicle and the robbers drove of with the vehicle.Today she is a widow working in the church just to get food to take care of her kids.
As much as i appreciate ur post and love your mentality you need to know that women are naturally emotional and are very likely to make decision based on emotion and when your husband is always succombing to you wishes in decision making,trust me even you will see him as less a man and that isnt good news.so sometimes your husband just have to overule ur decision,have you upset,apolohise and make you understand why he had to do that and as a wife you have to stand by him regardless of the fallout from that decision.

But you are absolutely right,both parties should make the decisions.

I really love your post,not many Nigerian ladies think that way.
Thank you for finding my post reasonable. . smiley smiley

As regards the tragic story, don't really know what to say because it could happen to anyone. Anyone could make a decision and it goes the wrong way because we can't forsee the future, we can only predict using garnered knowledge/info

We're invariably saying same thing, husbands should give due consideration to their wives' opinion. Some men don't even seek their wives' view, they just do things the way it suites them without wanting to hear a word from their spouse, tood bad... Most times, the wives only get to know about such decisions when the consequences come knocking. . So, all I'm saying is decisions should be reached by both couples, that's the essence of marriage. . Partnership! !... Also, two good heads are better than one.....


have a great day ahead. ..
Re: Should Working Wives Share Household Expenses With Their Husbands? by Nobody: 12:53pm On Oct 07, 2014
why not ? who and what is she supposed to spend the money on ...... the kids , herself and the family as a whole.
Re: Should Working Wives Share Household Expenses With Their Husbands? by AreaFada2: 1:33pm On Oct 07, 2014
dabossman:


This usually isn't because people are working too hard just to provide for the family, but because today's workplace demands too much of employees. It worse in a country like Nigeria where Labour Laws are not enforced. Even the working woman is not spared. Many working wives are made to work long hour and even weekends, usually leaving them with little time for family and health issues too.
.

That's true.
Re: Should Working Wives Share Household Expenses With Their Husbands? by raphy(m): 1:42pm On Oct 07, 2014
greatgod2012:
It's obvious and unfortunate that many don't really understand what marriage is all about.
Marriage is all about partnership, teamwork, in everything, every aspect and every area in love, understanding and empathy.
Marriage is not about one-man battalion, it's about two people working as one in every area that involves their marriage and lives.
If, as wife, you really love your husband, with understanding and empathy, you will realise that it's "unmarriage"(formed by me) to saddle your husband with all the financial responsibilities, apart from the fact that it isn't good for his health, it shows that you yourself aint committed to being teamed up with your husband, (selfishness)which sooner than later, may brings up unhealthy marital relationship to spring up.

Similarly, if, as a husband, if you really love your wife and see her as part of you, you will involve her in every decision to be taken at home, and in your life, when it comes to household matters, you will know that you're both one and act accordingly. You will see her as part of you that mustn't be neglected or abandoned.
At the end of the day, both parties enjoy their commitment towards each other and peace reigns absolutely.
Re: Should Working Wives Share Household Expenses With Their Husbands? by raphy(m): 1:54pm On Oct 07, 2014
am ,not yet Married so i dont have much to say ....but let love lead the way....
Re: Should Working Wives Share Household Expenses With Their Husbands? by kobonaire(m): 2:19pm On Oct 07, 2014
Missy89:

true but most men want to keep the status quo while trying to benefit from new trends

tantamount to eating your cake and having it dont u think?
yup, exactly ... I think that shift from the traditional model is happening .... gradually.

Btw Missy89, what does your new signature mean?... I liked the previous "NL, land of hypocrisy"
grin
Re: Should Working Wives Share Household Expenses With Their Husbands? by GWslim(f): 2:26pm On Oct 07, 2014
WHY NOT..................THAT IS WHY THEY ARE "ONE"
Re: Should Working Wives Share Household Expenses With Their Husbands? by ocelot2006(m): 2:28pm On Oct 07, 2014
saymalcolm:


If marriage is not a partnership, pray tell what it is then?

When the term "partnership" is mentioned, then equality in terms of responsibility and leadership comes to mind, and that's a major no no in marriage. As someone rightfully mentioned, yes marriage is all about teamwork. But in that team the husband is the team lead and wife as best confidant/advisor/2iC. Yes it's ok if the man seeks his wife's counsel/advise on a number of occasions (after all two heads are better than one), BUT it is NOT compulsory that her decision must be sought. It is not a democracy. Think of it as a benevolent dictatorship OR Absolute Monarchy.

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Re: Should Working Wives Share Household Expenses With Their Husbands? by ocelot2006(m): 2:37pm On Oct 07, 2014
dabossman:


Personally, the only part of your comment I don't totally agree with is saying "nobody has the final say". Somebody must make the game call and be responsible for it ultimately.

I'll give an example. Recently my wife and I had a three day long argument about letting our child resume school after the whole Ebola scare. Left to her the kid won't resume till January when we can be 100% sure all is well. I was of the opinion that it was now safe to go back to school and that the Ebola situation had been largely contained successfully. I told her I understood her concerns but I believe her position was based largely on fear and some misconceptions. I didn't see why the kid should lose a whole term on that basis. At the end of the day I had to make the call. She concurred grudgingly, and the child is back in school. Like I said in my previous post, it doesn't mean I don goof sometimes, but my wife knows I made the final call with good intentions after considering all our different opinions. And I admit it when I goof.

There have also been issues where I said "you know what, we'll do It your way". If things go wrong I don't blame her. I still take responsibility for making the call to do it her way. That's what is expected of a team leader, be it a CEO, football coach or hubby\parent. Someone must make the game call, otherwise issues will remain pending forever.

Thank you! You post has basically buttressed what I've been saying. No offence to the lovely Wives out there, but sometimes you lot can be a bit too emotional during the decision making process. That's why the final call is left to husband, cos apart from being the Head of the home and his ability to think clearly, every consequence for each decision made falls squarely on his shoulders.
Re: Should Working Wives Share Household Expenses With Their Husbands? by zboyd: 2:43pm On Oct 07, 2014
udifrancis:


Does it mean she contributes some to the well being of the family ?

angry


Not when it come to household expenditures. The husband won't allow it.

But the wife saves most of her salary for a rainy day, because you never know what may happen.

What she doesn't save, she uses on herself and entertainment for the kids.

Some women over here are married to men like this woman's husband.

My mother married one, as did I. There's no reasoning with men who think like this, based on my own personal experience. Best go with the flow to avoid arguments.

In fact, all the men on my father's side of the family are like this woman's husband.
Re: Should Working Wives Share Household Expenses With Their Husbands? by zboyd: 2:52pm On Oct 07, 2014
lakamua:
So model 3 is waiting for her husband to die before spending the money on herself and her children. What a bad wife

I beg to differ. Tamar* is not a "bad wife".

Here's the scenario again.

Model 3.

Tamar* is a working wife who is married to a husband who believes in gender equality, except in the area of household expenditures. He doesn't expect her to contribute ANY money to the household and has never asked her. He was raised to believe that as a husband, he is responsible for paying each and every bill in the household, including those pertaining to the children, even if his wife is gainfully employed. So any money Tamar makes is her money and none of his business. If he has to take on a second or third job, to make ends meet, so be it. He doesn't tolerate any discussion of the matter. Most wives would envy Tamar's position but she is worried that her husband works too hard at times. She fears he may keel over from a stress-induced heart attack, leaving her a young widow, with three kids to raise. So she saves back most of her salary, in the event her husband becomes incapacitated and the household expenditures fall on her shoulders.

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Re: Should Working Wives Share Household Expenses With Their Husbands? by egobetatoday: 3:20pm On Oct 07, 2014
3coins:
if a man shares house expenses with his wife,he should be ready to share home chores with her. .finish

i wish i could like your post several times over. that is just the truth
Re: Should Working Wives Share Household Expenses With Their Husbands? by zboyd: 3:29pm On Oct 07, 2014
walcolm:


@OP, nice post and quite relevant to the world we now live in.

the only problem i have with the post is that you have painted 3 different pictures of the wife but only one of the husband....that's putting men in a myopic box and that's unfair to the male gender. there are men who believe in the feminist ideologies and will be more than happy to support and marry a feminist. the problem with feminism in this part of the world is that most women now hide under the ideology to commit murder. they want the freedom and perks feminism brings but they dont want the responsibilities that comes with the power. the proverbial faith is a prime example of a woman who wants the freedom of feminism but doesnt want the responsibility that goes with it

the proverbial faith in your post is also a liar if she claims she takes care of the household chores and the needs of two children...no woman can work full time and do that. the househelp paid for by the husband is probably the one doing the chores and caring for the children 80% of the time because she's at work full time like the husband so claiming that as her contribution and excuse for withholding her earnings from the family is a lie

the proverbial beatrice deserves to have a say in the affairs of the family if her husband accepts her contribution to the family finances. if she's putting in 100% of her earnings just like her husband is putting in 100% of his earnings into the family purse, then she deserves to have an equitable say in the family decisions

First, I only listed 3 scenarios but I stated that there are more depending on the couple.

Second, do you know how many women over here work full-time AND raise 1+ children, many times by themselves? The average woman over here doesn't have any house help/nanny/governess/etc., but some do have daycare institutions they pay a pretty penny to, who watch their kids from 6am to 6pm. In fact, some of these women work two jobs and still manage to raise their children well AND take care of their household expenditures, sometimes, by themselves. And they are far from well-off.

Third, some men rule their homes with iron fists. They even confiscate their wives' paychecks. And no matter what the wife brings home from working, he and only he has the final say how her salary is spent.
Re: Should Working Wives Share Household Expenses With Their Husbands? by abbey621(m): 3:36pm On Oct 07, 2014
Reading some comments on here, I can't help but laugh. The reason many Nigerian women are spoiled is that they are based in 9ja where expenses are easily managed with the right set of income. If we were to switch environment and put the same people in a society like America, where bills are inevitable every month and you pay for everything from health insurance to car insurance, no one would tell the woman b4 she starts contributing. The mistake most women make is to see contributing as a detriment; rather it makes you stronger so that when one person loses his or job or there is an unforseen emergency, one can easily handle the situation. To the male who belives that a woman should not share expenses because they might start sharing decision making, such men are cowards and they suffer from psychological problem of inadequacy. No matter how strong a woman is, the right man is able to control her in a way that she doesn't even know that she's being controlled, it's one of the wonders of this world!
Re: Should Working Wives Share Household Expenses With Their Husbands? by 3coins(m): 4:10pm On Oct 07, 2014
egobetatoday:


i wish i could like your post several times over. that is just the truth
abi. . Simple truth
Re: Should Working Wives Share Household Expenses With Their Husbands? by aspirebig: 4:29pm On Oct 07, 2014
Before? Why are they called helpers? From olden days wife do assist the husband. No b today.
Re: Should Working Wives Share Household Expenses With Their Husbands? by obidiegwujane10(f): 4:45pm On Oct 07, 2014
I will prefer model 3 to avoid any discomfort in the future
Re: Should Working Wives Share Household Expenses With Their Husbands? by Nobody: 5:41pm On Oct 07, 2014
zboyd:


Not when it come to household expenditures. The husband won't allow it.

But the wife saves most of her salary for a rainy day, because you never know what may happen.

What she doesn't save, she uses on herself and entertainment for the kids.

Some women over here are married to men like this woman's husband.

My mother married one, as did I. There's no reasoning with men who think like this, based on my own personal experience. Best go with the flow to avoid arguments.

In fact, all the men on my father's side of the family are like this woman's husband.

Thx very much. I never thought of that. I usually think the woman is just too frugal...especially when it comes to payment of bills when the hubby is not around. It upsets me to see a woman who is working delaying bills on grounds that the hubby is not around. Now i know.
Re: Should Working Wives Share Household Expenses With Their Husbands? by Nobody: 5:47pm On Oct 07, 2014
Why not? The bible says and i quote "Two shall become one"
Re: Should Working Wives Share Household Expenses With Their Husbands? by bukatyne(f): 6:01pm On Oct 07, 2014
MarvellousGod:
I don't stand anywhere! !!!!

I want to work and contribute to my family projects/expenses. .

AND

I must make decisions with my husband, I must have a say.. we must talk things over, he can't just decide alone.... Nobody has the final say in a marriage, decisions should be reached by both couples. ..

QED


*modified*
See them mentioning me. angry angry
if your wife can't participate in decision making, then why marrying her?? undecided undecided Does anyone need to tell you to involve your wife in decision making when the effects of those decisions are going to be borne by both of you? If you think taking decisions alone in your home makes you a man, then I only but pity your wife who's irrelevant in her own home.

btw, why are you men not disputing my first point?? undecided undecided

Nice one

Hope.you do not mind the mention? sad

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Re: Should Working Wives Share Household Expenses With Their Husbands? by bukatyne(f): 6:03pm On Oct 07, 2014
greatgod2012:
It's obvious and unfortunate that many don't really understand what marriage is all about.
Marriage is all about partnership, teamwork, in everything, every aspect and every area in love, understanding and empathy.
Marriage is not about one-man battalion, it's about two people working as one in every area that involves their marriage and lives.
If, as wife, you really love your husband, with understanding and empathy, you will realise that it's "unmarriage"(formed by me) to saddle your husband with all the financial responsibilities, apart from the fact that it isn't good for his health, it shows that you yourself aint committed to being teamed up with your husband, (selfishness)which sooner than later, may brings up unhealthy marital relationship to spring up.

Similarly, if, as a husband, if you really love your wife and see her as part of you, you will involve her in every decision to be taken at home, and in your life, when it comes to household matters, you will know that you're both one and act accordingly. You will see her as part of you that mustn't be neglected or abandoned.
At the end of the day, both parties enjoy their commitment towards each other and peace reigns absolutely.

Nice one too
Re: Should Working Wives Share Household Expenses With Their Husbands? by bukatyne(f): 6:06pm On Oct 07, 2014
Debonair01:
It beats me a times how marriage has become so broken and everyone trying to make it scientific. I paint another scenario, one which i am very conversant with.

My dad and mum both were working, but no formulae was used for anything (per say), Granted, my dad takes care of the MAIN responsibilities, and my mum the minor ones but these roles were easily interchangeable whenever the need arose.

Pops pays our fees, gives us some upkeep money, Mums usually gives us additional money for other frivolities (clothes, shoes.. just playing around money). In them of house hold stuff, my dad would usually buy the bulk food (bags of rice, beans, yam), but my mum takes care of most additives and fruits and the likes. Some months, moms wld go out and buy the bulk foods (looking back now, she is usually very excited when ever she does, maybe because of exra money she just made or just the joy of buying them) and other times my dad comes home with the food additives. Clothings, each buy for themselves and for one another. (mums real did like buying for my my dad tho).

DECISIONS WERE ALWAYS TAKEN TOGETHER, with few exceptions where apologies are made and efforts to make it up, like my dad buying my mum a gift to apologise or my mum preparing a special delicacy

WHAT IS MY POINT

As much as it might sound quite idealistic, but if my parents could do it for almost 50yrs, any sincere couple can. Just do things sincerely for one another, contribute when you can. and this includes even house chores. it surprises me when pple talk about whose responsibility it is to do what; the answer is.. its both yours, Just do them with joy and love.

ps: i remember when my dad started a building project, and all house hold purchases went to my mum, even our fees a times. But even then, She would contribute some to the building and He some to house. There was no clear cut lines.

All hope is really not lost
Re: Should Working Wives Share Household Expenses With Their Husbands? by jumzzy448: 6:12pm On Oct 07, 2014
keemaQ:
The man you are going to end up with would be unfortunate .. very greedy, self centered mindset.


Hiannn.... cool down mr. And what is your business with the man I end up with undecided for your info, i'm married and hubby is the type that believes the husband should be responsible for house running. So even if I spend a dime, he refunds. So why are you taking panadol for another man's headache?
Re: Should Working Wives Share Household Expenses With Their Husbands? by bukatyne(f): 6:15pm On Oct 07, 2014
ocelot2006:



Point of correction, Marriage is NOT a partnership.

What is it then?
Re: Should Working Wives Share Household Expenses With Their Husbands? by bukatyne(f): 6:27pm On Oct 07, 2014
Meggy007:
When I see issues like this I begin to wonder what dating/courtship is all bout. I mean if people will team up (for the right reasons) yu'll know yur partners spending habit while yur dating.

For instance yur with a girl who never gets yu anything on specials days or ordinarily and yu as a man complains but she doesn't budge and yu go ahead and marry her. Then don't friggin complain when it she keeps her earnings to herself as yur wife!(Model 1)

Yur good to your man,get him stuffs when necessary,show him you care in more ways than one,which probably he appreciates, but he never sees reasons with you on serious issues yu both thrash out, una come marry, ehn, swallow yur cross and endure when he appreciates yur money but not yur brains(model 2)

Or yur that girl who your man refuses your gifts or any monetary assistance yu give to him(yu go dey think say na lobe and be blushing from ear to ear at that time and be bragging to yur friends how yur man don't let yur fEet touch the ground)una come marry, then he works his butt half dead to keep his family going insisting yu keep yur money, just STFU and carry yur burden!!!(Model 3)

Yuv got brains ladies and gents,use it when picking your man or woman for life,and above all PUT GOD FIRST in dating and after

Ps:greatgod2012 lady and d one who's got loving parents after 50yrs, you both DOPE.
CHEERY SHOUTOUT to my momma who's the pillar of me crib todei.you're my inspiration! And dad,me love you plenty too.

Courtship is now eating ice cream and going to the beach

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