BetaThings:

My point exactly
You and he cannot explain Islam to me
We spend time learning this stuff
and Non-muslims will just throw random stuff at me and "explain" Islam to me!!!
I went to a public secondary school where I had to learn CRK
But I still don't debate christian theology with Christians

I am not copying Arabs. I am practising Islam
I have confronted an Arab before on Islamic matters
As an aside if you hate African Muslims, why should I not love and copy Arabs?
Anyway the matter of Hijab is explained in the hadeeth of Aisha (RA)

As for hating, it is your choice
But you owe yourself a duty as an educated person to truly understand what you hate
BTW has it occurred to you that declaring proudly that you hate a religion is a problem in its own right?

Stop making noise and go to court to contest the judgement. If you want to wear hijab, go to a Muslim school. Simple!

I wonder why anybody with a functioning brain will have to learn Arabic before he/she can pray to God. Why can't we Africans say our prayers in our native languages. After all God understands all. Now some funny people are going to court over wearing of hijab that's an Arab sh..et. Just dsame way I see some funny men wrapping their heads with all kinds of clothes looking like ninjas. Africa is really messed up. We need to wake up.

abdulabbakar:
I wonder some christians sees the use of hijab as xtremism, while the virgin mary appears in all her pictures wearing a head-scarf!

for some people,but they do not wear head-scarf in school or do they? Guy wake up

Freelancer00:
Lol. Really?

Stop loling and tell me

icebeatz:


My friend, you can follow and also get followed on Nairaland.
#dont be ignorant

I know how NL works ,i was joking and obviously u didn't get the joke.

millionaireman:
Hijab these days are used more by Islamic extremists to make the emphasis: "I am a Muslim." Hijab became more popular among Nigerian Muslims after the 12 northern states took to sharia criminal laws, and OBJ govt did not stop them.

Nobody is saying they shouldn't wear it...but not to school

maylisa:
Please let keep sentiment aside is only in Africa that student go to school in hijab. Visit all the strong Islamic countries you dn't see student in hijab all they do is put on a decent clothing and behave well. For instance in Saudi Arabia they don't do all this just put on an abaya (long gown) with no or little shape as long as one look decent without any part of the body expose to the view of other and you cover your hair only if you wish or by the wish of your husband. This is where Islam started and they behave a kind of western. The worst is the yoruba's that a real housa or fulani man does not see them as real Muslims, that is why a yoruba cannot lead a prayer in a mosque with housa or fulani present only in abuja a no mans land. Sorry if I offend anyone with my words forgive me because all I have written is out of experienced. PEACE

You don't have to make ignorant comments just to support your point. Where in saudi do you see female students going to school without hijab. They hijab is not forced on anybody but it is actually preferred for them to wear the hijabi in saudia and you therefore see most of the female students wearing not just hijab, but the face veil especially those in the public schools. In addition, boys and girls don't stay in the same compound right from grade 1.

abdul01:
Mehn, I feel sorry for and ashamed of the Christians of this country oh, so what u guys want (or r insinuating) is all these nudity n immoralities that's being encouraged everywhere whether it's on TV, movies, offices, campuses etc. I feel the best thing for u guys to have done is just to remain neutral on this issue or at least the Catholics among u to have joined us in this 'struggle', cos what this implies also is that the christian nuns shouldn't attend public schools or work in public institutions unless they are ready to exchange their religious beliefs for d education or work.

The second thing I'll like to comment on is on the fact that no one if forcing the hijab (wc simply means cover all ur body with loose opaque clothes, wt d exception of d face n d hands) on all d female pupils, rather w@ we re saying is that let the Muslim kids wear it, n don't persecute or flog them when they do.

Finally, u Christians n non-Muslims alike have to understand that our religions are different(i.e Islam vs other religions), our religion is not play, it's not singing n dancing n acting drama, but it's upholding d commandments of God our creator(whether u like it or not), so that's why we can't compromise it for anything. So in ur religion a woman can wear tight shorts all in d name of NYSC but in ours, she is obliged to cover her body in front of all strangers...

Well my message to this judge or whatever her name is is to read d story of the nations of the past, how mighty they were n due to their rebellion against their creator they were destroyed; the people of ad, pharoah, lut n co(at least these are stories that are known to us all n their remains all still exist). So in essence, the muslims will still continue to wear their hijab whether Lagos state government likes it or not n there's absolutely nothing anybody can do about it.

may Allah guide us all to d truth.

Peace!!

Go and sit down Mr man. If you really want to kill yourself over this issue of hijab, talk to your wealthy Muslim brothers to build Islamic schools and stop wasting money on terrorism.

Your female folks can wear hijab to Islamic schools ONLY. You don't have to look like a masquerade and smell like sh..t before you cover you body. It's common sense. Dress well and wear clothes that'll cover your body. I do not understand how a woman's hair or face has become a sensitive part that can be termed indecent or seductive, except you mean to tell me that your muslim brothers are moved by any part of a woman's body they see, even the nose or ears.

Please you all need to stop getting on ppl nerves. A lot of you guys have caused too many problems for the world already.

BetaThings:


How does it nail it?
Do you know that Nigerians used to go to work on Saturdays
And Gowon changed that?


Not appearing in school on Saturday is different from being asked to expose myself everyday of the week
If you expose yourself in school (major part of daylight period, 8 - 3), what is the point in covering for the rest of the day (minor part)?

I am sure that if one of your children's classmate wore ifa's beads or attire to school, you will not be comfortable.
Why do people tell me what I would do in certain circumstances
As for Ifa beads, it is not comparable to Hijab
A Christians seamstress can sew the Hijab if she is open minded enoough
Or you can buy Hijab from a Christian trader who sees it as a business
I am not sure that the Ifa people would give it to a Christian seamstress to sow because they are likely to make those incantations while they are sewing the beads
BTW You are likely to have encountered people wearing Hijab before - commercial vehicles, hospitals etc
Have you seen people with Ifa attire in those places
Meaning - Hijab is to be worn at all times and Ifa dress is for special occasions esp when they want to "fight" people, at least from what I see in home videos

Just wondering how old you are. All your points sounds very childish and out of point.

Cousim:
where is the force here, abi taking matters to court now is force? Hijab is our right, hikab is a fundamental part of islam comparing hijab with masquerade attire is ridiculous cos its only worn occassionaly whereas hijab is a compulsory aspect everyday muslim dressing

You want to exercise your right which Saudi Arabia deny others.

I wonder why all this talk about wearing Hijab, In Sokoto where I served Christians were forced to wear Hijab why? They say its part of their school uniforms. And do you see those christians complaining? NO!.

Even in times of daily devotion, In Sokoto especially in the school in served the never say christian prayer, its only muslim prayer, and the lackadaisical manner at which they sing the national anthem is appalling.

Why is it that when decisions doesn't favor muslims they shout their head out!?.

To me Lagos state government have the right to say what goes on in its school and what doesn't!. Any parent who want his or her child/ward to wear hijab should send that child to and Islamic school period, just the way parents send their kids to private universities because of ASUU strike.

If you ask me, I'll say religion: Christianity and Islam should be banned! There continuous struggle for supremacy is adding to the episodic decadence that has been tearing this country apart since 1960.

Some muslims could be very funny and even some christians too!

If state edicts and laws dont go your ways,many muslims simply turn against eachother in the name of religion.

Education is not compulsory,if it doesnt favor your type of belief or religion,the last option is to ignore it.

I also find it surprising when people ignore traditional religion,why must you wear Hijab when its never been part of the school uniform,what do you think other religions will ask for ?

And some say traditionalists impose curfew during sacrificial exercises,anyway,my advise is this,NEVER TRY TO OPPOSE TRADITIONAL CURFEWS IN YOUR COMMUNITY,THEIR WRATH IS NOT BIBLICAL NEITHER IS IT QUARANIC ! OGUN,SANGO OR AMADIOHA WILL STRIKE YOU ! JUST TRY IT AND SEE !

Go and study your books while you can,your predecessors have read without Hijab in the past and your generation cant be different.

isick:

den stay at home

Perfect. Afterall Islam does not like its women mixing with men. If you must follow islam to the last dot, stay home, go out only with your bros, dad, uncke or hubby. Forget education as a girl and marry at 8.
On tge other hand, hajiyas can open a girl only school for the girls nau. Then they can dress as their religion wants. But isnt that a no no? Since islam does not allow women to leave homes without male relatives.

masonkz:


Holy communion is taken in the church, not school

white garment is worn in the church, not school.

A nun knows the way to the seminary.

Leave religion out of schools.

'For many Muslims, wearing a headscarf is not only about religious expression, it is about religious obligation.'
---- HUMAN RIGHT WATCH

ayinba1:

I am trying to understand your reasoning. Why do you want to remove all traces of religion in schools? Do you believe in God? If yes, do you take a break from believing in God when you are at school?

Now if you say you do not believe in God, the rules for you are totally different.

The muslims are not asking that non muslims wear hijab. The simple request is that a muslim should be free to wear hijab if she choses to.
This is another attempt to deny the girl child an education.

It is a wrong decision in a society that claims to support freedom of religion.

And please stop this argument of "take your kids to a private Islamic school". Public schools are funded with everyone's money (muslim, non muslim, pagan). Try to remove sentiments, one should be free to exercise his/her religious obligation. The hijab does you no harm.
Live and let live.

Madam, if public schools are funded with tax payers moneys, are Muslims the only people paying tax? Ur daughters can wear hijab to anywhere they like except a school, a public school, because it is mixed. There is a uniform and the hijab is not part of it. They can wear the hijab when going home or on their way to school. But the moment you step ur feet on the school compound, u take off the hijab. If we should be free to exercise our religions just the way we like, then a son of an Ifa priest can wear a a rope with a vulture's skull as pendant to school. I'm sureness u'll like that. No hijab in PUBLIC schools. Simple as ABC

abdulkayus:


Bt IRK and CRK are offered in d school and also there are fellowship in school also, wat will u say abt that. And who told u some christians students don't come to school with rosary? Who guys jus focus more on hijab which does nt concern u cos its nt force on u.

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IRK and CRK being taught in schools because they are required subjects for you to read some courses in the university. for example, you can't read Islamic education, or Islamic law without having at least a credit in IRK in waec and IRK being part of ur jamb combination. So also, some universities request a combination of english, govt, literature, CRK for u to read some courses like Law, Mass com. e.t.c So IRK and CRK being offered in schools is not purely for religious purposes or sentiments....they are required subjects.
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As for the issue of fellowship, I can tell you from personal experience that there are public schools which alternate their fellowships. i.e Christians lead the morning fellowship on designated days like Mondays n Thursdays while Muslims lead on Tuesdays and Thursdays and both groups have seperate fellowships on Fridays.
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Wearing of Hijab has not been outlawed in the state, it has only been outlawed within the four walls of a public school. wearing hijab creates a form of segregation/ distinction. If you enter a classroom you can immediately differentiate between the Muslim and the christian girls through the hijab they are wearing which should not be so. This breeds a situation where a class is divided along religious lines.
Section 10 of our constitution was placed there for a reason. let's keep it that way.

delishpot:


Perfect. Afterall Islam does not like its women mixing with men. If you must follow islam to the last dot, stay home, go out only with your bros, dad, uncke or hubby. Forget education as a girl and marry at 8.
On tge other hand, hajiyas can open a girl only school for the girls nau. Then they can dress as their religion wants. But isnt that a no no? Since islam does not allow women to leave homes without male relatives.

Islam doesn't allow women to got on a LONG JOURNEY without a male relative, basically for the women's safety. Any problem with that?

BetaThings:

No problem
I am convinced that wearing the Hijab is compulsory
But Christians insist that our girls should take it off
And I wonder why
Hijab can be any colour - it should just cover what we want it to cover
Christians argue that Muslims are intolerant
But when you observe things, it is the Christians that are most intolerant
and they come up with arguments that annoy because they are so silly

They object to anything that MUslims want
But Muslims don't care about what they get
Yet they can write nice and very moving speeches about some ideals of mankind
Most of it is deceptive
Just read the arguments here
Note that we go to work on Fridays but they don't on Sat (7the Dy Adventist) and Sun
They will never remember that we could have insisted on not going to work on Fridays

What is the hijab covering that the school uniform cannot cover? Breeeest or hair?

emmatok:


Are you not aware the government sponsor pilgrims to Saudi with Nigerians Money.
If Muslims must wear hi-jab in school then every religion must wear their own outfits.

If they are religiously obliged to just like the muslims, then why not?

joseph1832:
I wonder why all this talk about wearing Hijab, In Sokoto where I served Christians were forced to wear Hijab why? They say its part of their school uniforms. And do you see those christians complaining? NO!.
Even in times of daily devotion, In Sokoto especially in the school in served the never say christian prayer, its only muslim prayer, and the lackadaisical manner at which they sing the national anthem is appalling.
Why is it that when decisions doesn't favor muslims they shout their head out!?.
To me Lagos state government have the right to say what goes on in its school and what doesn't!. Any parent who want his or her child/ward to wear hijab should send that child to and Islamic school period, just the way parents send their kids to private universities because of ASUU strike.
If you ask me, I'll say religion: Christianity and Islam should be banned! There continuous struggle for supremacy is adding to the episodic decadence that has been tearing this country apart since 1960.

If your rights were trampled on and you failed to speak, You have no one to blame but yourself. Muslims cannot be forced to use the Hijab let alone non-muslims. Even in Saudi Arabia, no one will force you to cover your hair

pashaun:
What are Nigerian moslems Sunni or Shiite?

Predominantly Sunnis althought there are a few Shiites.

joseph1832:
I wonder why all this talk about wearing Hijab, In Sokoto where I served Christians were forced to wear Hijab why? They say its part of their school uniforms. And do you see those christians complaining? NO!.

Even in times of daily devotion, In Sokoto especially in the school in served the never say christian prayer, its only muslim prayer, and the lackadaisical manner at which they sing the national anthem is appalling.

Why is it that when decisions doesn't favor muslims they shout their head out!?.

To me Lagos state government have the right to say what goes on in its school and what doesn't!. Any parent who want his or her child/ward to wear hijab should send that child to and Islamic school period, just the way parents send their kids to private universities because of ASUU strike.

If you ask me, I'll say religion: Christianity and Islam should be banned! There continuous struggle for supremacy is adding to the episodic decadence that has been tearing this country apart since 1960.

Will they say the islamic prayer in owerri or enugu? even in some western parts of the country with few muslims, they only say the christian prayer and not only that, i remember the teachers will actually flog you if you refuse to close your eyes during the prayers. SO WHAT IS YOUR POINT?

omostar:


'For many Muslims, wearing a headscarf is not only about religious expression, it is about religious obligation.'
---- HUMAN RIGHT WATCH

Seriously? Obligation? ?

if all the religions in Nigeria will adhere to their own religious obligations in the gathering of other religions, or even in schools, can you imagine the chaos such will cause?

Jnrbayerno:

Nobody is saying they shouldn't wear it...but not to school

Anybody can wear hijab, but not where it is unsuitable. Even in Christianity, there are many regulations which most Christians no longer observe or take serious.

Laws, be they religious, or common, are meant for mankind; but mankind is not made for laws. In other words, mankind must at every stage abandon any laws that are no longer in tune with the time.

If, as is obvious, the use of Hijab or Burqa restrains a female's vision in today's fast-moving world with fast moving objects like vehicles, trains, motorcycles, and bicycles,etc., why must a female be constrained to wear those hijab and burqas that constrain her vision? These days, some Westerners even taunt Muslims with the saying that "Muslims Bag their Females."

At least fresh air go dey enter the girls hair and head.

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Wow! So we still have some sensible judges in this. Yes we still have sensible judges abeg they should open the constitution and quote where it said hijab is allowed in schools. Freedom of religion does not entail wearing of hijab in schools.

willibounce1:

Madam, if public schools are funded with tax payers moneys, are Muslims the only people paying tax? Ur daughters can wear hijab to anywhere they like except a school, a public school, because it is mixed. There is a uniform and the hijab is not part of it.

Yes we all pay tax and everyone should be allowed free access to public spaces irrespective belief. You keep mentioning Uniforms as if they are scared objects sent from heaven and not made by human beings. The point is MAKE UNIFORMS THAT ACCOMODATE HIJAB FOR THOSE WHO WANT IT!

willibounce1:

a son of an Ifa priest can wear a a rope with a vulture's skull as pendant to school.

Of course you and I know that neither Ifa priests nor their sons wear these things to places other than their shrines/events. So this is no point really.

ElekeNtioba:
Infact no more Islam!!...dats d only way to nip this at d bud. Ban Hijab for Naija totally! Anybody caught...na beheading tins!

You need more than words to achieve that...Wawa!

abdulkayus:


It can be part of d uniform colour, who knows?
And if its nt d government shld make d hijab colour of d school uniform, no probs wit that

That's exactly my suggestion. it's an eyesore seeing blue, black, yellow or brown hijab when the school uniform its pink.

"The non hijab wearing students will feel inferior to the ones wearing hijab". I can't believe a judge will make such an ignorant and unfounded statement to support her decision in such a case. She and so many of you against the wearing of hijab are straight up hypocrites or very biased. If the schools are secular...free from religion or display of religious identity I would agree that hijab should be banned. But how can you even try to justify the banning of the option of wearing hijab on the grounds of the schools are secular when the very schools have non optional devotion every day? Can someone who be casting stones justify that for me ...please? ....and while at it...shouldn't the wearing of rosaries/crucifixes be also banned?....how can the country progress when so many are blind...blinded by religion and lead into intolerance? I am waiting....I know you can explain.

Why is it that all over the world the average Muslims dont think on how to develop the world and make it a peaceful place but only to create an islamic state empire and islamic religious things. ...why


Can't you guys just allow other people be who they wat to bcom...

BetaThings:

Why should we not go to work on Sunday when the constitution says we are not a Christian nation

Oga, Christians fellowships on sunday has more to do with convenience (work-free-day) than the day be called sunday. At least they can get every of their members together since it's a work-free-day.

Btw, Christians are very much ready to start gathering on monday (if monday becomes a work-free-day and sunday becomes a working day).
Christianity is as liberating as that!

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Is this judge aware that the NATIONAL CHRISTMAS TREE was paid for by government money

Please I appreciate the desire of the my muslim brothers, it is just that it will cause more harm than good, In yoruba land Christians and muslims see each other as one, in the same extended families we have christian fathers muslim uncles,muslim husband christian wives, interfaith marriages...
this will start seperating our kids from young creating unhealthy pychological barriers, which bigots(both christian & Muslims) will use to there advantage.
Imagine a scenario in which a primary school boy shoves an hijab wearing mate (which they usually do wheather they are christian or muslim), she falls and her hijab falls off, do you know that other kids can react and say he did it deliberately or he is fighting her because she is muslim, some other can even start fighting the boy saying why are you beating my muslim sister degenerating into something else, whereas the are quarelling cos of a pencil or biro, whereas school kids have been quarelling forever..
It is a delicate issue though...


My Question:
How many of the parents fighting for this wear HIjab, to the office, market, wedding,burial, bar beach, or everywhere they go...?

I also believe the govt can sponsor and promote religious events both ways, our various religions is what is still instilling in us the little left morals that we have.....in abuja FCT and Tourism parastatal decorate the town during sallah and christmas, National Mosque was built by FG under abacha.