Fasho I'll check that book yao modey!!!

black247:


Haha! I am curious because I have heard this a lot, in one way or another.

1. You people sold us.
2. Recently, you guys never came for us.

And with one American, not bashing them at all but, she said where are you from - with a big smile. I said: Nigeria. Her smile vanished. She responded, I thought you were from Ghana...they are nicer.

.

i thought you said all the african relatives were killed off or sold, so no need to wonder anymore i guess.

KidStranglehold:


How when Black Americans were enslaved by Americans? And not the British. By the time of colonization America had already been independent of Britain. So how were AA's free or enslaved apart of the British army?? Unless I'm missing something.

The caribbean or west indian british military unit in there battalion participated in the anglo- ashati war and many more war against africa by white just for colonialism eg the destruction of many igbo areas in the eastern part of nigeria , destruction of benin empire and that of french colonial war in africa just make a research on it e t c.

fightforchange1:


Share the story about the aa talking trash to the afro person...it seems a bit unusual to me...

'It seems a bit unusual to me'...really?What about the Africans schooling,working and residing in the US who experience xenophobic attitudes from BAs?Have you ever heard of the site called 'Bossip.com'?Visit it and see the garbage comments by BAs directed at Africans.List the youtube clips about Africans talking trash about BAs...I've been searching for them but I haven't seen any or did you just make that up?By the way,I find the term 'Afro person' offensive and insultive.What main point am I trying to pass across with my post?You BAs are no angels either

and y'all have a huge part to play in this race card. humans are humans . do not be blinded wasting a huge chunk of your life worrying/hating ..ppl r ppl dummy. some good, some terrible . some wanna help clear the dust of slavery mental while others, in this instance , dummy who wrote this cheesiness, continue to waste time finding ways to make ppl join his destructive headed mentality of AA hating BB or CC talking trash to DD. ppl r ppl . u'll be better off talkin bout the good stuff AA did to BB or how CC took DD off the streets despite the color of his skin

You're starting a hate campaign. I would only hope ppl read between the lines and not get infected by your hate campaign virus. there are good ppl everywhere , and bad ppl everywhere. .except your lack of creative ideas in articling (sic) is definitely and clearly highlighted in your cliche topics and mediocre comments.

you cannot save anyone, you can only save yourself. Quit being cheesy trying to start a dulling (sic) online campaign that only causes hate and disgust.

share articles with creativity, amusement, productive knowledge and you'd do ppl a lot good than harm ppl with such mediocrity.

ps : I was fortunate to graduate a 2ND degree course in human psychology and public society through Harvard this february

It's time to rebuild through love . Trying to make ppl hate other ppl (or other types of ppl, as you see humans) will only keep destroying the hope of a willing generation .

Quit playing the race card. Humans are humans. People are good, people are bad. But we are all humans. Don't be too quick to judge.

traware:
'It seems a bit unusual to me'...really?What about the Africans schooling,working and residing in the US who experience xenophobic attitudes from BAs?Have you ever heard of the site called 'Bossip.com'?Visit it and see the garbage comments by BAs directed at Africans.List the youtube clips about Africans talking trash about BAs...I've been searching for them but I haven't seen any or did you just make that up?By the way,I find the term 'Afro person' offensive and insultive.What main point am I trying to pass across with my post?You BAs are no angels either

What about the Yoruba on Nairaland using the word
"Akata" towards AAs

fightforchange1:

What about the Yoruba on Nairaland using the word
"Akata" towards AAs

Those AAs who attack African folks r plain nonsensical what is the legitimate reason for us to attack y'all...
I'm not arguing with you...don't b offended....
The reason African is bcuz of our cultural assimilation to Western, European culture...

fightforchange1:

Those AAs who attack African folks r plain nonsensical what is the legitimate reason for us to attack y'all...
I'm not arguing with you...don't b offended....
The reason African is bcuz of our cultural assimilation to Western, European culture...

We should just come a place of understanding n tolerance....bcuz I love African people...
I'm sorry I said afro.

Consider all of the pain n grief n transgressions that we as blacks had to endure in the US.
Jim Crow separate but Equal...
Instutionalized racism...
The members of our families being sexually abused.
Treated like second class citizens for 400...
And then here come a African to calls us dog or a nigger...
Think about that..

The Nigerian mentality doesn't really jell with the whole slavery, returnee issue. Nigerians tend to have a just get on with it and quit moaning mentality, and such a mindset has little patience for the socio/political revisionism of the black diaspora. Most Nigerians would appreciate an African American who came to Nigeria to start a good business etc, as opposed to someone coming merely to ''rediscover his roots'' etc etc. Nigerians don't have time for such 'sentimentality' in a country where the pursuit of material/professional success is more intense than anywhere else in Africa (and possibly the world). It is this Nigerian aloofness to anything not considered of direct economic value that makes African American returnees feel 'unwelcome' in Nigeria, unlike say Ghana or Gambia where everything seems to stop for them when they appear.

the origin of the term nigger originated in Africa...."the "nigger area"....in reference to nigeria!.

by the slave traders who took our descendants from the other Nigerians.

letu:
T[b]he caribbean or west indian british military unit[/b] in there battalion participated in the anglo- ashati war and many more war against africa by white just for colonialism eg the destruction of many igbo areas in the eastern part of nigeria , destruction of benin empire and that of french colonial war in africa just make a research on it e t c.

Yeah but those people are NOT "African Americans" from the USA. Which was my point.

fightforchange1:
the origin of the term nigger originated in Africa...."the "nigger area"....in reference to nigeria!.

by the slave traders who took our descendants from the other Nigerians.

Utter nonsense. The N word originated in the Spanish language and is a twisted derivation of the Spanish word "negro". The word has NOTHING to do with Nigeria. The word "Nigeria" is NOT even an African word but a British word! Nigeria is a twisted word that comes from the "Niger" river. Since parts of the Niger river sits in the area of Nigeria. And so the British gave it that name. The word "Niger" itself is most likely NOT African since its Latin. And African groups like the Mande called the Niger River other names. So no the N-word has nothing to do with the term Nigeria.

ROSSIKE:
The Nigerian mentality doesn't really jell with the whole slavery, returnee issue. Nigerians tend to have a just get on with it and quit moaning mentality, and such a mindset has little patience for the socio/political revisionism of the black diaspora. Most Nigerians would appreciate an African American who came to Nigeria to start a good business etc, as opposed to someone coming merely to ''rediscover his roots'' etc etc. Nigerians don't have time for such 'sentimentality' in a country where the pursuit of material/professional success is more intense than anywhere else in Africa (and possibly the world). It is this Nigerian aloofness to anything not considered of direct economic value that makes African American returnees feel 'unwelcome' in Nigeria, unlike say Ghana or Gambia where everything seems to stop for them when they appear.

You are right. But is this a good thing or not? Personally I don't see anything wrong with it. As far as we are being diplomatic to them, I don't see the problem.

KidStranglehold:


Utter nonsense. The N word originated in the Spanish language and is a twisted derivation of the Spanish word "negro". The word has NOTHING to do with Nigeria. The word "Nigeria" is NOT even an African word but a British word! Nigeria is a twisted word that comes from the "Niger" river. Since parts of the Niger river sits in the area of Nigeria. And so the British gave it that name. The word "Niger" itself is most likely NOT African since its Latin. And African groups like the Mande called the Niger River other names. So no the N-word has nothing to do with the term Nigeria.

Still, i read on the net that slave traders who took our descendants from the country refered to not only us but them as niggers!
So, when they took our names, language, culture custom, and our religious they were racist...even if that word didn't originate in naija it doesn't matter.
The fact that they referred to AA as nigger...not bcuz we were black....our descendants culture was Spanish n English languages, or religions but African traditional languages n religion...
So when u have a case person who is obviously racist changeing ones racial identity what does that tell u.

Stillfire:


You are right. But is this a good thing or not? Personally I don't see anything wrong with it. As far as we are being diplomatic to them, I don't see the problem.

It's neither good nor bad. Just the way it is here. If African Americans are to make their mark in Nigeria, it will have to be via the business approach.

fightforchange1:


Still, i read on the net that slave traders who took our descendants from the country refered to not only us but them as niggers!
So, when they took our names, language, culture custom, and our religious they were racist...even if that word didn't originate in naija it doesn't matter.
The fact that they referred to AA as nigger...not bcuz we were black....our descendants culture was Spanish n English languages, or religions but African traditional languages n religion...
So when u have a case person who is obviously racist changeing ones racial identity what does that tell u.

True. But this really has nothing to do with what I was truly addressing:
the origin of the term nigger originated in Africa...."the "nigger area"....in reference to nigeria!.

KidStranglehold:


True. But this really has nothing to do with what I was truly addressing:
the origin of the term nigger originated in Africa...."the "nigger area"....in reference to nigeria!.

Oh OK...

KidStranglehold:


True. But this really has nothing to do with what I was truly addressing:
the origin of the term nigger originated in Africa...."the "nigger area"....in reference to nigeria!.

Lol, funny one Kid.

The term, 'Nigger' has its origins in the slave trade era(circa 1600) and the slave trade long predates the existence and formation of the country called Nigeria which was only formed in 1914. 1914 - 1600 = _____, you do the math.

bigfrancis21:


Lol, funny one Kid.

The term, 'Nigger' has its origins in the slave trade era(circa 1600) and the slave trade long predates the existence and formation of the country called Nigeria which was only formed in 1914. 1914 - 1600 = _____, you do the math.

It was me that said that....I knew the countries were not called that b4...I'm still learning.....

fightforchange1:
Consider all of the pain n grief n transgressions that we as blacks had to endure in the US.
Jim Crow separate but Equal...
Instutionalized racism...
The members of our families being sexually abused.
Treated like second class citizens for 400...
And then here come a African to calls us dog or a nigger...
Think about that..

I think the past is past. African Americans need to move on. Many an African American still lives in the past and carries the weight of the past with them everyday and this has impacted on the way many view life today and live their lives. Yes, racism exists today, subtle racism in actuality, but that should never be an excuse not to pursue education, success and satisfaction in life. By trying not to 'act white', many alienate themselves from the important fabrics of the society that are vital for success in life and thus end up living life on the outside or fringes of the society. I see many african american men towing this line of thinking. In the bid to create and foster an exclusive black culture for themselves, they abhor anything they associate with 'being white' ie education, success, having proper manners, being intelligent/smart etc and try to do the opposite to feel 'loyal to the black culture and cause'. I understand. However, sitting down and whining about how your ancestors were slaves as an excuse for not working hard is irrelevant in today's world and economics.

Africa as an entire continent has been robbed of her most important treasures, legacies, natural resources, historical antiques and artworks stolen and kept in foreign museums which have been refused to be returned, and what have you. Africa underwent colonialism on their own land but that has never been an excuse for Africans to look to the positive side of life and aim for success.

I think current-generation AAs need to forgive the unjust acts and hurt that were done to them and move on to be part of the shakers and movers of the American economy and society. Current AAs alive today were not slaves and did not have any direct experience with the slave trade and it follows that they, en masse, should find it easier to focus on life and live life to its fullest than their ancestors who were born and raised in slavery, of whom racial subjugation were ingrained into their brains from childhood. AAs fought so hard to achieve the equality for all that all immigrants in the US are massively enjoying today. If not for all the civil rights riots, marches, protests, raids etc done by African Americans, America would not have been this equality-laden. AAs are to be thanked for their bravery in standing up for and demanding their rights despite the enormous adversity they faced. However let this achievement not be their stopping point in the ever-vibrant race for a better life. Now that they have succeeded in achieving a level-playing ground for themselves and every one in America, they should go ahead to take advantage of what they fought so hard for and partake fully in the helm and affairs of America.

Individually as human beings, we've all been hurt severally in the past but what matters most importantly is letting go of the past and the hurt and moving on in life. There's a lot more to life than unforgiveness and choosing to get stuck in the past.

fightforchange1:

What about the Yoruba on Nairaland using the word
"Akata" towards AAs

I'm quite aware the word is used as a descriptive term for BAs and not a demeaning one.Afterall in Nigeria,white people are generally referred to as 'oyibo'.Nigerians may be many things but 'hateful' isn't one of them

fightforchange1:

Those AAs who attack African folks r plain nonsensical what is the legitimate reason for us to attack y'all...
I'm not arguing with you...don't b offended....
The reason African is bcuz of our cultural assimilation to Western, European culture...

I agree.BAs who attack Africans are silly and Africans who also attack BAs are also silly.I'm very aware to other races,they really don't care whether we're Africans or BAs.To them,we're all thesame.Its all semantics.Our collective foolishness just annoys and frustrates me sometimes.I'm usually upset at the situation because I care.If I didn't care,I wouldn't discuss the issue/s

fightforchange1:


We should just come a place of understanding n tolerance....bcuz I love African people...
I'm sorry I said afro.

Its very odd for me seeing an apologetic black lady...quite an arrogant bunch aren't they?Apology accepted

fightforchange1:
Consider all of the pain n grief n transgressions that we as blacks had to endure in the US.
Jim Crow separate but Equal...
Instutionalized racism...
The members of our families being sexually abused.
Treated like second class citizens for 400...
And then here come a African to calls us dog or a nigger...
Think about that..

@bigfrancis has succintly replied this post

bigfrancis21:


I think the past is past. African Americans need to move on. Many an African American still lives in the past and carries the weight of the past with them everyday and this has impacted on the way many view life today and live their lives. Yes, racism exists today, subtle racism in actuality, but that should never be an excuse not to pursue education, success and satisfaction in life. By trying not to 'act white', many alienate themselves from the important fabrics of the society that are vital for success in life and thus end up living life on the outside or fringes of the society. I see many african american men towing this line of thinking. In the bid to create and foster an exclusive black culture for themselves, they abhor anything they associate with 'being white' ie education, success, having proper manners, being intelligent/smart etc and try to do the opposite to feel 'loyal to the black culture and cause'. I understand. However, sitting down and whining about how your ancestors were slaves as an excuse for not working hard is irrelevant in today's world and economics.

Africa as an entire continent has been robbed of her most important treasures, legacies, natural resources, historical antiques and artworks stolen and kept in foreign museums which have been refused to be returned, and what have you. Africa underwent colonialism on their own land but that has never been an excuse for Africans to look to the positive side of life and aim for success.

I think current-generation AAs need to forgive the unjust acts and hurt that were done to them and move on to be part of the shakers and movers of the American economy and society. Current AAs alive today were not slaves and did not have any direct experience with the slave trade and it follows that they, en masse, should find it easier to focus on life and live life to its fullest than their ancestors who were born and raised in slavery, of whom racial subjugation were ingrained into their brains from childhood. AAs fought so hard to achieve the equality for all that all immigrants in the US are massively enjoying today. If not for all the civil rights riots, marches, protests, raids etc done by African Americans, America would not have been this equality-laden. AAs are to be thanked for their bravery in standing up for and demanding their rights despite the enormous adversity they faced. However let this achievement not be their stopping point in the ever-vibrant race for a better life. Now that they have succeeded in achieving a level-playing ground for themselves and every one in America, they should go ahead to take advantage of what they fought so hard for and partake fully in the helm and affairs of America.

Individually as human beings, we've all been hurt severally in the past but what matters most importantly is letting go of the past and the hurt and moving on in life. There's a lot more to life than unforgiveness and choosing to get stuck in the past.

I am not mad about the past. I've moved on. I was saying those events in American history so that folks
On here will know and understand those events that took place...

fightforchange1:


I am not mad about the past. I've moved on. I was saying those events in American history so that folks
On here will know and understand those events that took place...

I dont know. I disagree with my big brother. We, as Africans, like to tell you people to move on - yet we are still talking about the colonizers on our continent. We also dont experience ongoing racism like you do..so I can see why there is a bit of resentment..

I also think what Ros said was true as well, we are about economic activities ..not the family that you seek. That will disappoint. It disappointed the Jamaican and perhaps you if you come here. But, the good thing, at least you know that we wont pretend to be into family, and heritage and take advantage of your longing for a connection like other possible country men.

I think the issue with the 1st diaspora is that they see Africans as an extended family, longing in the back of their mind...and we see it as a mishap in history and have moved on. But, I still want to connect and discuss heritage and history because Im intrigued. Im also a Pan Africanist and was quite disturbed when my brother let his anger out on me. I see us as your bigger brothers..here to guide you..the ones that were stolen. But, Im finding that there are very FEW of me that are this interested...most of us are quite ethnic centric.

But..

You are my family, all of Africa - black Africans ..belong to Africa. If you see bigots, we are bigots to ourselves at times...dont be hurt. I recommend that you see things with no rose colored glasses ...but dont be pessimistic either.

Advice? Continue to stay connected to your African American values, you have a culture dont let us tell you otherwise. Show the world you guys are still worthy and dont try to be absorbed into Africa - retain your uniqueness...yet, dont look for a home that you cant go back to, create a home if you want it here. And if you are into ancestral homage, tell your ancestors that you made it home..or made them proud in such a way. I said this to my friend, he is still bitter about us...and like I said he IS Jamaican (I know often times we put it on Aa but there are lots that hate us) and refuses to be called African, at all.

I wish you well! There are some of us Nigerians rooting for you as I know the same from you. As traware says...we are all black.

I have to go. But, since I started this, I didnt want you to think that the sentiment was shared: "get over slavery" I am one of the ones that is aware of Mike Brown and its connection to slavery. Africans rarely see racism. Anyway, I have a lot to do from crafting topics, finishing a research project, reading the book I got on kindle, preparing for a play and helping my little sister with biology!

weren't some slave from Central Africa?

vdGeist:
weren't some slave from Central Africa?

Yes...

Central Africa
Angola
Nigeria
Ghana
Ivory Coast, I have to look on this map to remember all.

black247:


Yes...

Central Africa
Angola
Nigeria
Ghana
Ivory Coast, I have to look on this map to remember all.

and Congo.

vdGeist:
weren't some slave from Central Africa?

Angola and Congo were the 2 main central african countries that featured in the slave trade.

In West Africa, you have Nigeria, Ghana, Togo, Benin republic etc.

bigfrancis21:


Angola and Congo were the 2 main central african countries that featured in the slave trade.

In West Africa, you have Nigeria, Ghana, Togo, Benin republic etc.

What about Senegambia and Sierra Leone?

It's why I added 'e.t.c' at the end of my statement, to incorporate any other countries I may not have mentioned.