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| Re: History: When Black Men Ruled The World by Nobody: 6:26pm On Nov 16, 2014 |
ROSSIKE:You just like to make a statement without backing it up with facts and irrefutable sources. Is that when black people ruled the world? Bwahaha... You twerp! |
| Re: History: When Black Men Ruled The World by Nobody: 6:27pm On Nov 16, 2014 |
victorazy:sorry to say this brother but you really feel inferior, have you ever bothered to do a google search about black inventors, you won't bother coz you think the whites invented everything. Philip emeagwali (Nigerian) invented the world fastest computer, the whites did not glorify him like other inventors cos he's black. If you think you are an animal coz you are black, pls do not categorize all blacks, civilization started in Egypt, Egypt thought the whites and Romans the meaning of colonization. |
| Re: History: When Black Men Ruled The World by Nobody: 6:30pm On Nov 16, 2014 |
Weselion:Please, do your research and correct that line in bold.    |
| Re: History: When Black Men Ruled The World by Ikhilor(m): 6:30pm On Nov 16, 2014 |
Yes I do and what's wrong with that? We are on about history here and not where who lives. nora544: 1 Like |
| Re: History: When Black Men Ruled The World by Pdizzle(m): 6:31pm On Nov 16, 2014 |
majekdom2: If we practice our own religion, things will be better. 1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: History: When Black Men Ruled The World by Nobody: 6:35pm On Nov 16, 2014 |
Pdizzle:religion, education is never a problem with us .... Sadly , we can't go back to the traditional religion. Every other continent have got diverse religions. Our problem is simply personality.... Selfishness, greed, blaming the other party for your woes, redundant criticism and the begger mentality. Did we use the black magic to solely help ourselves |
| Re: History: When Black Men Ruled The World by Nobody: 6:37pm On Nov 16, 2014 |
i'll be back to expose your identity and everything about you in the next 2 weeks . Lol, the only identity you will be able to expose is ya pops' lol. If you can get my first name correctly, I owe you £2000. I can post the pic of the cash now lol. |
| Re: History: When Black Men Ruled The World by Nobody: 6:39pm On Nov 16, 2014 |
SirShymex: That is a good homework for him to do. You can as well post that in the science section for others to try. Bwahaha... You killed it, man!  |
| Re: History: When Black Men Ruled The World by Nobody: 6:42pm On Nov 16, 2014 |
all4naija: Lol, these stans think they can solve a puzzle wrapped up in an enigma lol. They wanna know who the ghost is loool. |
| Re: History: When Black Men Ruled The World by victorazy(m): 6:48pm On Nov 16, 2014 |
Weselion: I was expecting to hear that name "Philip Emeagwali" invented computer bla! Bla! Where is he? In Lagos now? where is he when Bill is the world richest man? Where is he now African is left behind technogically? U guys should stop this and focus ur lives and future. Who told u Egyptians are black? Because they are in African map? Egypt may be in African map but they are not Black! Get that into ur skull sir Am not a black man! |
| Re: History: When Black Men Ruled The World by Nobody: 6:49pm On Nov 16, 2014 |
all4naija: Irrefutable sources? That was TOMB ART from Egypt you dunce. It's not some drawing by Hollywood mythorians whose stories you accept. As for black people 'ruling the world', hear it from none other than the wife of the first British Governor-General of colonial Nigeria - the very people who colonized you: Flora Shaw's (alias Lady Flora Lugard) book, A Tropical Dependency: An Outline of the Ancient History of the Western Sudan With an Account of the Modern Settlement of Northern Nigeria, is an extraordinary look at the history of Africa, which she gathered from countless sources, and one would imagine a great deal of it came from the British Library and from the archives of The Times of London, for whom she had for many years been the Foreign Political Correspondent. She had always been known to be an intensive researcher into her subject matter, and one wonders at the months and probably years she put into this undertaking, which became the reference work for so many future books on Africa. This book was first published 100 years ago showing with detail and descriptive power, the greatness that Africa once was. Lady Lugard argues that: [b]"When the history of Negroland comes to be written in detail, it may be found that the kingdoms lying towards the eastern end of Sudan (classical home of Ancient Ethiopians) were the home of races who inspired, rather than of races who received, the tradition of civilization associated for us with the name of ancient Egypt. For they cover on either side of the Upper Nile between the latitudes of ten degrees and seventeen degrees, territories in which are found monuments more ancient than the oldest Egyptian monuments. If this should prove to be the case and civilized world be forced to recognize in a black people the fount of its original enlightenment, it may happen that we shall have to revise entirely our view of the black races, and regard those who now exist as the decadent representatives of an almost forgotten era, rather than as the embryonic possibility of an era yet to come." "The fame of the ancient Ethiopians (ancient Kushites) was widespread in ancient history. Herodotus described them as the most beautiful and long-lived of the human races, and before Herodotus, Homer, in even more flattering language, described them as the most just of men, the favorites of the gods. The annals of all the great early nations of Asia Minor are full of them. The Mosaic records allude to them frequently; but while they are described as the most powerful, the most just, and the most beautiful of the human race, they are constantly spoken of as Black, and there seems to be no other conclusion to be drawn than that at that remote period of history, the leading race of the Western World was a Black race."[/b] Lady Lugard/Flora Shaw Lugard, Asa G. Hilliard, III, A Tropical Dependency: An Outline of the Ancient History of the Western Sudan With an Account of the Modern Settlement of Northern Nigeria, Black Classic Press (1996) . . . . . [size=15pt]See, ''all4naija'', when even your own colonial rulers are declaring that it was your fellow blacks who civilized them aeons ago, and YOU are rejecting it, insisting on your inferiority, you know it is time for us to visit your village to inquire about your condition, and investigate who did this to you..[/size] |
| Re: History: When Black Men Ruled The World by Nobody: 6:56pm On Nov 16, 2014 |
ROSSIKE: . Negro,please... At least, the colonial master can deceive you twice. Bleh! Bwahaha... |
| Re: History: When Black Men Ruled The World by Nobody: 7:02pm On Nov 16, 2014 |
SirShymex:They aren't Poles nor Brits to solve the German WW II cryptographic machine, the Enigma. Hahaha... I think you are smart there, man! 1 Like |
| Re: History: When Black Men Ruled The World by Nobody: 7:02pm On Nov 16, 2014 |
all4naija: You demanded 'sources'. You got sources. Now it's the sources are 'deceiving' us. Just like the ancient sources from Herodotus to Diodorus, Homer etc are also 'deceiving us'. Just like the tomb art showing black Egyptians is also 'deceiving us'. The negroid statue of the Sphinx is also 'deceiving us'. I would be surprised if you weren't walking around, faced all bleached out white. Such is the depth of your mental servitude and self-hate. Spit. |
| Re: History: When Black Men Ruled The World by Nobody: 7:03pm On Nov 16, 2014 |
Mythtology |
| Re: History: When Black Men Ruled The World by victorazy(m): 7:04pm On Nov 16, 2014 |
ROSSIKE: Just because the guy was saying the truth? Make una dey here dey deceive un sef. Ur granfather ruled the world and was later been taken as slave Egypt maybe in African map but they are not blacks! 3 Likes |
| Re: History: When Black Men Ruled The World by Nobody: 7:07pm On Nov 16, 2014 |
victorazy: Dummy, shiit happens. It's the way of the world. All races have had their people enslaved so you've made no point. Egypt maybe in African map but they are not blacks! Go and see your optician, assuming you can afford one. You clearly can neither read nor comprehend what you see. Stupi.d walking dunce that's never picked up a history book in your worthless life. [size=15pt]I'm still scratching my head wondering how we can be showing these illiterates CLEARLY BLACK PEOPLE on ancient relics and art and yet they still deny it. The depths of colonial mentality and mental slavery are truly scary..[/size] 1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: History: When Black Men Ruled The World by Pdizzle(m): 7:07pm On Nov 16, 2014 |
majekdom2: I never said education was a problem, even though there is very rich knowledge in the ifa binary system. Every human being has an element of greed and there are bad people everywhere. Going back to our religions is very big and significant step to our originality, the whites have made the average blackman understood that he is second fiddle in all things. If i may ask sir, How much do you know about the African Traditional Religion? |
| Re: History: When Black Men Ruled The World by Nobody: 7:10pm On Nov 16, 2014 |
ROSSIKE: IRREFUTABLE sources! Those are blatant lies to control you the more. Bwhahaha... This blind Negro doesn't wanna wake up from slumber and join the rest of world moving forward. |
| Re: History: When Black Men Ruled The World by victorazy(m): 7:12pm On Nov 16, 2014 |
ROSSIKE: Look at this goon Sit here and be counting loses! Black ppl that cannot even rule themselves ruled the world (Joke of the day) Imagine someone like GEJ with his round hat and his fat wife as blacks ppl ruling the world, Isis and BH for they contest election in some countries 1 Like |
| Re: History: When Black Men Ruled The World by Nobody: 7:16pm On Nov 16, 2014 |
all4naija: You're a compound dunce. The book by Lady Lugard was NOT published for Africans. How many Africans could read English in 1900? It was a book published in England for the largely English/western readership, as ALL books published by ALL English people of the era were. Ignorant DUNCE. |
| Re: History: When Black Men Ruled The World by Nobody: 7:19pm On Nov 16, 2014 |
victorazy: That's your inferiority complex talking, not knowledge... Some of us here read and study history, something YOU never do. The reason you think like that is that you do not read, study, or research your history, and clearly have no intention to. That's a tragic pity for any person - to not study the history of their people. You are actually lost. You can never hold your head high in the comity of people because you lack the knowledge of who you are. |
| Re: History: When Black Men Ruled The World by Nobody: 7:19pm On Nov 16, 2014 |
ROSSIKE:I feel sorry for you. Yet they rule the world when many can't read! Lady Lugard you said! How much did she know about African history? Is she even a recognized scholar in the first place? However, I think you can't reason with your brain and don't know what IRREFUTABLE sources mean. Jeez! You're really a primitive person indeed! |
| Re: History: When Black Men Ruled The World by Nobody: 7:23pm On Nov 16, 2014 |
all4naija:Cow brain.... history evolves... civilizations rise and fall, and in the process even practices like writing can be lost....for multiple reasons. Take the time to READ HISTORY BOOKS then you will understand how it can happen....If you don't READ, you will keep reasoning like a cow. Lady Lugard you said! How much did she know about African history?A lot more than you that's for sure. Have you ever conducted just 10 minutes research into African history? Is she even a recognized scholar in the first place?She was a historian. However, I think you can't reason with your brain and don't know what IRREFUTABLE sources mean. Jeez! You're really a primitive person indeed!My posts are FILLED TO THE BRIM WITH IRREFUTABLE SOURCES INCLUDING THE LIKES OF ARISTOTLE AND HOMER. LOOK FOR ANOTHER REASON TO HATE YOURSELF. DON'T BLAME THE 'SOURCES'. THE DOCUMENTARY EVIDENCE Note: All of Africa South of the Sahara was known to the ancient Greeks as ''Ethiopia''. Greek historian Diodorus Siculus. From his own statements we learn that he traveled in Egypt around 60 BC. His travels in Egypt probably took him as far south as the first Cataract. "They (the Ethiopians) say also that the Egyptians are colonists sent out by the Ethiopians, Osiris ["King of Kings and God of Gods] having been the leader of the colony . . . they add that the Egyptians have received from them, as from authors and their ancestors, the greater part of their laws." Diodorus's declared intention to trace the origins of the cult of Osiris, alias the Greek Dionysus also commonly known by his Roman name Bacchus. The Homeric Hymn "To Dionysus" locates the birth of Dionysus in a mysterious city of Nysa "near the streams of Aegyptus" (Hesiod 287). Diodorus cites this reference as well as the ancient belief that Dionysus was the son of Ammon, king of Libya (3.68.1), and much of Book 3 of the Bibliotheka Historica is devoted to the intertwined histories of Dionysus and the god-favored Ethiopians whom he believed to be the originators of Egyptian civilization. [emphasis added] (1st century B.C., Diodorus Siculus of Sicily, Greek historian and contemporary of Caesar Augustus, Universal History Book III. 2. 4-3. 3) Diodorus devoted an entire chapter of his world history, the Bibliotheke Historica, or Library of History (Book 3), to the Kushites ["Aithiopians"] of Meroe. Here he repeats the story of their great piety, their high favor with the gods, and adds the fascinating legend that they were the first of all men created by the gods and were the founders of Egyptian civilization, invented writing, and had given the Egyptians their religion and culture. (3.3.2). "Now they relate that of all people the Aithiopians [Ethiopians] were the earliest, and say that the proofs of this are clear. That they did not arrive as immigrants but are the natives of the country and therefore rightly are called authochthonous is almost universally accepted. That those who live in the South are likely to be the first engendered by the earth is obvious to all. For as it was the heat of the sun that dried up the earth while it was still moist, at the time when everything came into being, and caused life, they say it is probable that it was the region closest to the sun that first bore animate beings". [160,000-year-old fossilized skulls uncovered in Ethiopia are oldest anatomically modern humans.] Diodorus continues: "They further write that it was among them that people were first taught to honor the gods and offer sacrifices and arrange processions and festivals and perform other things by which people honor the divine. For this reason their piety is famous among all men, and the sacrifices among the Aithiopians are believed to be particularly pleasing to the divinity," "The Aithiopians [Ethiopians] say that the Egyptians are settlers from among themselves and that Osiris was the leader of the settlement.The customs of the Egyptians, they say, are for the most part Aithiopian, the settlers having preserved their old traditions. For to consider the kings gods, to pay great attention to funeral rites, and many other things, are Aithiopian practices, and also the style of their statues and the form of their writing are Aithiopian. Also the way the priestly colleges are organized is said to be the same in both nations. For all who have to do with the cult of the gods, they maintain, are [ritually] pure: the priests are shaved in the same way, they have the same robes and the type of scepter shaped like a plough, which also the kings have, who use tall pointed felt hats ending in a knob, with the snakes that they call the asp (aspis) coiled round them." "There are also numerous other Aithiopian tribes [i.e. besides those centered at Meroe]; some live along both sides of the river Nile and on the islands in the river, others dwell in the regions that border on Arabia [i.e. to the east], others again have settled in the interior of Libya [i.e. to the west]. The majority of these tribes, in particular those who live along the river, have black skin, snub-nosed faces, and curly hair". (Diodous Siculus, Bibliotheke, 3. Translated by Tomas Hagg, in Fontes Historiae Nubiorum, vol. II: From the Mid-Fifth to the First Century BC (Bergen, Norway, 1996)) Aristotle (384-322 B.C.E.) Greek philosopher, scientist, and tutor to Alexander the Great. Aristotle is said to have written 150 philosophical treatises. "Too black a hue marks the coward as witness Egyptians and Ethiopians and so does also too white a complexion as you may see from women, the complexion of courage is between the two." (Physiognomics, Vol. VI, 812a) Aristotle makes reference to the hair form of Egyptians and Ethiopians: "Why are the Ethiopians and Egyptians bandy-legged? Is it because the bodies of living creatures become distorted by heat, like logs of wood when they become dry? The condition of their hair supports this theory; for it is curlier than that of other nations, and curliness is as it were crookedness of the hair." (Physiognomics, Book XIV, p. 317) The evidence of Lucian (Greek writer, 125 B.C.) is as explicit as that of the previous writers. He introduces two Greeks, Lycinus and Timolaus, who start a conversation: Lycinus (describing a young Egyptian): "This boy is not merely black; he has thick lips and his legs are too thin . . . his hair worn in a plait behind shows that he is not a freeman." Timolaus: "But that is a sign of really distinguished birth in Egypt, Lycinus, All freeborn children plait their hair until they reach manhood. It is the exact opposite of the custom of our ancestors who thought it seemly for old men to secure their hair with a gold brooch to keep it in place." (Lucian, Navigations, paras 2-3) Herodotus (circa 400 bc) (Known to western historians as the Father of History) Herodotus also asserted that "the names of nearly all the gods came to Greece from Egypt . . . for the names of all the gods have been known in Egypt from the beginning of time . . . It was the Egyptians too who originated, and taught the Greeks . . . ceremonial meeting, processions and liturgies . . . The Egyptians were also the first to assign each month and each day to a particular deity, and to foretell the date of a man's birth, his character, his fortunes, and the day of his death . . . The Egyptians, too have made more use of omens and prognostics than any other nation. . ." (Herodotus, The Histories, 149-150; 152; 159). ''There can be no doubt that the Colchians are an Egyptian race. Before I heard any mention of the fact from others, I had remarked it myself. After the thought had struck me, I made inquiries on the subject both in Colchis and in Egypt, and I found that the Colchians had a more distinct recollection of the Egyptians, than the Egyptians had of them. Still the Egyptians said that they believed the Colchians to be descended from the army of Sesostris. My own conjectures were founded, first, on the fact that they are black-skinned and have woolly hair, which certainly amounts to but little, since several other nations are so too. But further and more especially, on the circumstance that the Colchians, the Egyptians, and the Ethiopians, are the only nations who have practised circumcision from the earliest times. The Phoenicians and the Syrians of Palestine themselves confess that they learned the custom of the Egyptians. And the Syrians who dwell about the rivers Thermodon and Parthenius, as well as their neighbors the Macronians, say that they have recently adopted it from the Colchians. Now these are the only nations who use circumcision, and it is plain that they all imitate herein the Egyptians. With respect to the Ethiopians, indeed, I cannot decide whether they learned the practice of the Egyptians, or the Egyptians of them (it is undoubtedly of very ancient date in Ethiopia). But that the others derived their knowledge of it from Egypt is clear to me, from the fact that the Phoenicians, when they come to have commerce with the Greeks, cease to follow the Egyptians in this custom, and allow their children to remain uncircumcised.'' (Herodotus, The Histories, Book 2:104) The opinion of the ancient writers on the Egyptians is more or less summed up by French Egyptologist Gaston Maspero The Dawn of Civilization (1894), when he says, "By the almost unanimous testimony of ancient historians, they [the Egyptians] belong to an African race which first settled in Ethiopia on the Middle Nile: following the course of the river they gradually reached the sea." The German scholar, Eugen Georg, in his book The Adventure of Mankind (1931) p. 121, tells us about the ". . . world-wide dominance of Ethiopian representatives of the black race. They were supreme in Africa and Asia. In upper Egypt and India they erected mighty religious centers and mastered a perfect technique in the molding of bronze --- and they even infiltrated through Southern Europe for a thousand years." In his book Egypt, British scholar Sir E.A. Wallis Budge says: "The prehistoric native of Egypt, both in the old and in the new Stone Ages, was African and there is every reason for saying that the earliest settlers came from the South." He further states: "There are many things in the manners and customs and religions of the historic Egyptians that suggests that the original home of their prehistoric ancestors was in a country in the neighborhood of Uganda and Punt." (Some historians believe that the biblical land of Punt was in the area known on modern maps as Somalia.) Stephanus of Byzantium, who is said to represent the opinions of the most ancient Greeks, says: "Ethiopia was the first established country on the earth, and the Ethiopians were the first who introduced the worship of the Gods and who established laws." Quoted by John D. Baldwin, Prehistoric Nations, p. 62. Arnold Hermann Heeren (1760-1842), Professor of History and Politics in the University of Gottengen and one of the ablest of the early exponents of the economic interpretation of history, published, in the fourth and revised edition of his great work Ideen Uber Die Politik, Den Verkehr Und Den Handel Der Vornehmsten Volker Der Alten Weld, a lengthy essay on the history, culture, and commerce of the ancient Ethiopians, which had profound influence on contemporary writers in the conclusion that it was among these ancient Black people of Africa and Asia that international trade was first developed. He thinks that as a by-product of these international contacts there was an exchange of ideas and cultural practices that laid the foundations of the earliest civilizations of the ancient world. Heeren in his researches says: "From the remotest times to the present, the Ethiopians have been one of the most celebrated, and yet the most mysterious of nations. In the earliest traditions of nearly all the civilized nations of antiquity, the name of this distant people is found. The annals of the Egyptian priests are full of them, and the nations of inner Asia, on the Euphrates and Tigris, have interwoven the fictions of the Ethiopians with their traditions of the wars and conquests of their heroes; and, at a period equally remote, they glimmer in Greek mythology. When the Greeks scarcely knew Italy and Sicily by name, the Ethiopians were celebrated in the verses of their poets, and when the faint gleam of tradition and fable gives way to the clear light of history, the lustre of the Ethiopians is not diminished." The French writer Constantin-François Volney (1757-1820), in his important work, The Ruins of Empires, extends this point of view by saying that the Egyptians were the first people to "attain the physical and moral sciences necessary to civilized life." In referring to the basis of this achievement he states further that, "It was, then, on the borders of the Upper Nile, among a Black race of men, that was organized the complicated system of worship of the stars, considered in relation to the productions of the earth and the labors of agriculture; and this first worship, characterized by their adoration under their own forms and national attributes, was a simple proceeding of the human mind." Volney's Ruins; or, Meditation on the Revolutions of Empires, Boston, J. Mendum, 1869 |
| Re: History: When Black Men Ruled The World by LordGuru: 7:26pm On Nov 16, 2014 |
One thing I'm very sure of is that there r a lot of white people here now, especially as guests, watching if Africans here are making any progress at uniting. Pls, let's be focused on the purpose of this thread: uniting Africans. They take pleasure in seeing us go for one another's jugular, turning ourselves to entertainment objects of ridicle before them. |
| Re: History: When Black Men Ruled The World by victorazy(m): 7:26pm On Nov 16, 2014 |
ROSSIKE: I don't care about ur fvcking history book, the only history book I read is Bible, other history books only pull u back, poisoning ur heart, adding sorrow than hapiness. Fvck ur history! Fvck ur book! Fvck ur papa libry! Go and be good to ursef and leave all these fairytale stories. "Egypt may be in African map but they are not blacks" get that into ur empty skull sir! |
| Re: History: When Black Men Ruled The World by Nobody: 7:32pm On Nov 16, 2014 |
victorazy: Kindly return to your crack smoking.... drunken illiterate. Colonised mosquito ranting about the ''bible'' whose origin you haven't the slightest clue about..... being an anti-research dunce allergic to studying. And don't forget to see an optician, you stupi.d blind bat with foam where your brains ought to be. |
| Re: History: When Black Men Ruled The World by Nobody: 7:37pm On Nov 16, 2014 |
ROSSIKE:Culture evolves but history doesn't . It is about the past, present and future in a well layout story line. Please, stop using parts of civilization in history to define what it is all about. You aren't smart as you think though. We know that empires rise and fall but that doesn't make their history to change, you i d i o t! You are trying hard to look like a well-read person that you are not. I am not going to pay attention to your gibberish. Go and get a good education and leave the primitive life you are living. |
| Re: History: When Black Men Ruled The World by Nobody: 7:39pm On Nov 16, 2014 |
LordGuru:Unity is not African problem but getting organized and civilized are. |
| Re: History: When Black Men Ruled The World by Nobody: 7:40pm On Nov 16, 2014 |
ROSSIKE:You are truly the primitive person in this forum. It is a shame you can't get your head around modernity, dummy. |
| Re: History: When Black Men Ruled The World by victorazy(m): 7:43pm On Nov 16, 2014 |
ROSSIKE: Ur goon that's all! Go eat ur ancestors blank brain like u! You tut u know it all yet ur here typing rubbish with that ur lepros fingers! |
| Re: History: When Black Men Ruled The World by Nobody: 7:43pm On Nov 16, 2014 |
all4naija: I can't make head or tail of your drunken, illiterate diatribe.... You're a really poor advertisement for free internet access for motorpark touts. |
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