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What Is The Book Of Enoch And Should It Be In The Bible? by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:05pm On Dec 16, 2014 |
Question: "What is the book of Enoch and should it be in the Bible?" Answer: The Book of Enoch is any of several pseudepigraphal (falsely attributed works, texts whose claimed authorship is unfounded) works that attribute themselves to Enoch, the great-grandfather of Noah; that is, Enoch son of Jared (Genesis 5:18). Enoch is also one of the two people in the Bible taken up to heaven without dying (the other being Elijah), as the Bible says "And Enoch walked with God, and he was not; for God took him." (Genesis 5:24; see also Hebrews 11:5). Most commonly, the phrase "Book of Enoch" refers to 1 Enoch, which is wholly extant only in the Ethiopic language. The biblical book of Jude quotes from the Book of Enoch in verses 14-15, “Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied about these men: ‘See, the Lord is coming with thousands upon thousands of his holy ones to judge everyone, and to convict all the ungodly of all the ungodly acts they have done in the ungodly way, and of all the harsh words ungodly sinners have spoken against him.’” But this does not mean the Book of Enoch is inspired by God and should be in the Bible. Jude’s quote is not the only quote in the Bible from a non-biblical source. The Apostle Paul quotes Epimenides in Titus 1:12 but that does not mean we should give any additional authority to Epimenides’ writings. The same is true with Jude, verses 14-15. Jude quoting from the book of Enoch does not indicate the entire Book of Enoch is inspired, or even true. All it means is that particular verse is true. It is interesting to note that no scholars believe the Book of Enoch to have truly been written by the Enoch in the Bible. Enoch was seven generations from Adam, prior to the Flood (Genesis 5:1-24). Evidently, though, this was genuinely something that Enoch prophesied – or the Bible would not attribute it to him, “Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied about these men…” (Jude 14). This saying of Enoch was evidently handed down by tradition, and eventually recorded in the Book of Enoch. We should treat the Book of Enoch (and the other books like it) in the same manner we do the other Apocryphal writings. Some of what the Apocrypha says is true and correct, but at the same time, much of it is false and historically inaccurate. If you read these books, you have to treat them as interesting but fallible historical documents, not as the inspired, authoritative Word of God. Read more: http://www.gotquestions.org/book-of-Enoch.html#ixzz3M3dtnQUq |
Re: What Is The Book Of Enoch And Should It Be In The Bible? by PastorAIO: 1:01pm On Dec 16, 2014 |
Please can you give us some criteria. Something that we can apply to any text to determine whether it is the authoritative word of God or not.
What does the book of Enoch say that is historically inaccurate? How do you know that it is historically inaccurate? and would you apply such criteria to the other books of the Bible? 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: What Is The Book Of Enoch And Should It Be In The Bible? by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:09pm On Dec 16, 2014 |
PastorAIO: Below is a link for your perusal as to the inaccuracies of the book of Enoch and why it cannot be considered to be God breathed. When you are done reading this I will then give you the measuring stick by which the inspired Word of God is ascertained. http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Wolves/book_of_enoch.htm |
Re: What Is The Book Of Enoch And Should It Be In The Bible? by PastorAIO: 1:48pm On Dec 16, 2014 |
OLAADEGBU: Oya, I've read it. |
Re: What Is The Book Of Enoch And Should It Be In The Bible? by Nobody: 2:11pm On Dec 16, 2014 |
PastorAIO: Excuse me sire...you should also take a look at this. http://thetruthandlight./2012/08/31/re-in-defense-the-book-of-enoch/ We should better take a look at the subject at hand in an objective manner. A wholistic and objective approach is indeed better. Thanks |
Re: What Is The Book Of Enoch And Should It Be In The Bible? by PastorAIO: 2:54pm On Dec 16, 2014 |
TheIndustrialist: I've read a little, I'll still read the rest when I have more time. It rebuts Olaadegbu's hero with ease, it seems. Actually I was aware of the sheer ignorance in Ola's link but my approach is rather to deal with what Ola himself says rather than deal with the link. So I won't comment until Ola himself answers my opening questions to him. Thanks for the link though. 1 Like |
Re: What Is The Book Of Enoch And Should It Be In The Bible? by OLAADEGBU(m): 5:11pm On Dec 16, 2014 |
PastorAIO: You say "It rebuts Olaadegbu's hero with ease," Does this mean you agree with TheIndustrialist's rebuttals? |
Re: What Is The Book Of Enoch And Should It Be In The Bible? by PastorKun(m): 5:14pm On Dec 16, 2014 |
OLAADEGBU: It simply means you are a very ignorant and dogmatic person. 1 Like |
Re: What Is The Book Of Enoch And Should It Be In The Bible? by tobechi20(m): 5:24pm On Dec 16, 2014 |
Bible is incomplete 1 Like |
Re: What Is The Book Of Enoch And Should It Be In The Bible? by Nobody: 5:28pm On Dec 16, 2014 |
if Jude could take a quote out of the book of Enoch then yes, it should be in the bible. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: What Is The Book Of Enoch And Should It Be In The Bible? by femidejulius(m): 5:42pm On Dec 16, 2014 |
A question that need answers... Exactly how did they know what books were inspired by God and what books weren't inspired by God during the compilation and arrangement of the bible? Anyone to help me? 1 Like |
Re: What Is The Book Of Enoch And Should It Be In The Bible? by OLAADEGBU(m): 6:16pm On Dec 16, 2014 |
TheIndustrialist: Do you believe that humans were as tall as 450 feet as the book of Enoch claims? |
Re: What Is The Book Of Enoch And Should It Be In The Bible? by OLAADEGBU(m): 6:17pm On Dec 16, 2014 |
PastorKun: How? |
Re: What Is The Book Of Enoch And Should It Be In The Bible? by OLAADEGBU(m): 6:18pm On Dec 16, 2014 |
tobechi20: I should assume that PastorKun, PastorAIO, frosbel and theIndustrial will agree with you. |
Re: What Is The Book Of Enoch And Should It Be In The Bible? by OLAADEGBU(m): 6:20pm On Dec 16, 2014 |
frosbel: It's not today that you've been swallowing half truths and lies. I trust you to fall for this lie too. |
Re: What Is The Book Of Enoch And Should It Be In The Bible? by OLAADEGBU(m): 6:22pm On Dec 16, 2014 |
femidejulius: This question will be answered as soon as you acknowledge whether you believe the book of Enoch should be included in the Bible or not. |
Re: What Is The Book Of Enoch And Should It Be In The Bible? by Nobody: 6:26pm On Dec 16, 2014 |
OLAADEGBU: Mr Kumuiyi's clone, where do you think Jude copied the following bible verse from ; "Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied about them: “See, the Lord is coming with thousands upon thousands of his holy ones 15 to judge everyone, and to convict all of them of all the ungodly acts they have committed in their ungodliness, and of all the defiant words ungodly sinners have spoken against him." - Jude 1:14-15 Clue : Check out the book of Enoch Chapter 2. |
Re: What Is The Book Of Enoch And Should It Be In The Bible? by Nobody: 6:29pm On Dec 16, 2014 |
OLAADEGBU: when will you ever have your own opinion on a matter ? 2 Likes |
Re: What Is The Book Of Enoch And Should It Be In The Bible? by OLAADEGBU(m): 6:37pm On Dec 16, 2014 |
frosbel: The question is: Do you believe the book of Enoch is God breathed? |
Re: What Is The Book Of Enoch And Should It Be In The Bible? by OLAADEGBU(m): 6:39pm On Dec 16, 2014 |
frosbel: My opinion is well known in this section. It is an antithesis to what you now believe. |
Re: What Is The Book Of Enoch And Should It Be In The Bible? by PastorAIO: 6:50pm On Dec 16, 2014 |
femidejulius: PastorAIO: Ola, the questions are piling up o. Please don't leave us hanging. remember your promise, Keep it and let the devil be ashamed. OLAADEGBU:I've read it, please fulfil your promise. Let me list out the questions thus far: 1)What are the criteria that we can apply to any text to find out if it is God breathed or not? 2)What does the book of Enoch say that is historically inaccurate? 3)How do you know that Enoch is historically inaccurate and would you apply that criteria to other books in the bible? 4)For FemideJulius: When the bible was being compiled How were the inspired books distinguished from the uninspired books? 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: What Is The Book Of Enoch And Should It Be In The Bible? by PastorAIO: 6:51pm On Dec 16, 2014 |
OLAADEGBU: Do you believe that a Snake and a Donkey talked as the bible claimed? 3 Likes |
Re: What Is The Book Of Enoch And Should It Be In The Bible? by PastorAIO: 6:53pm On Dec 16, 2014 |
OLAADEGBU: I'll answer this question when you demonstrate that you are not a liar by answering my questions as you promised. 1 Like |
Re: What Is The Book Of Enoch And Should It Be In The Bible? by Nobody: 6:58pm On Dec 16, 2014 |
^^^^ I don't think Ola can answer those questions , his religious education does not allow him to apply logic or reason. |
Re: What Is The Book Of Enoch And Should It Be In The Bible? by PastorKun(m): 6:59pm On Dec 16, 2014 |
OLAADEGBU: It depends on what you mean by the bible being complete. What determines whether the bible is complete or not 1 Like |
Re: What Is The Book Of Enoch And Should It Be In The Bible? by OLAADEGBU(m): 7:33pm On Dec 16, 2014 |
PastorAIO: I remember giving you the answer to your question sometime ago, which you either read or pretended ignorant. Go back to the answer I gave you. |
Re: What Is The Book Of Enoch And Should It Be In The Bible? by OLAADEGBU(m): 7:34pm On Dec 16, 2014 |
PastorAIO: Yes. Oya, answer my kweshun. |
Re: What Is The Book Of Enoch And Should It Be In The Bible? by OLAADEGBU(m): 7:36pm On Dec 16, 2014 |
PastorAIO: I already answered your question. If you haven't forgotten asking me this same question before you will remember my answer. |
Re: What Is The Book Of Enoch And Should It Be In The Bible? by OLAADEGBU(m): 7:39pm On Dec 16, 2014 |
frosbel: It's not a good idea to teach a pig how to sing, it's either I waste it's time or end up annoying it. |
Re: What Is The Book Of Enoch And Should It Be In The Bible? by OLAADEGBU(m): 7:41pm On Dec 16, 2014 |
PastorKun: It means that both the OT and NT Canon has been completed and closed. There are no other books to be added. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: What Is The Book Of Enoch And Should It Be In The Bible? by PastorKun(m): 7:55pm On Dec 16, 2014 |
OLAADEGBU: When Jesus was ascending, did he promise us a completed book(bible) or the holy spirit for guidance? 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: What Is The Book Of Enoch And Should It Be In The Bible? by vest(m): 8:01pm On Dec 16, 2014 |
i was here oh! nna see thick thick quesions nah! |
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