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Who Does Allah Choose As Messengers? by talkingtruth: 9:10am On May 16, 2015
Only Men

Nor did We send before thee
(as messengers) any but MEN,
whom we did inspire,- (MEN)
LIVING IN HUMAN HABITATIONS. Do
they not travel through the
earth, and see what was the
end of those before them? But
the home of the hereafter is
best, for those who do right.
Will ye not then understand?
[Qur'an 12:109]

.....but MEN who lived among humans. Not angels.


Also angels

Allah chooses messengers from
ANGELS and from MEN for Allah
is He Who hears and sees (all
things).
[Qur'an 22:75]

The above quotes are from the 'Glorious Quran' without any discrepancies and reserved in heaven. How true?

The truth is: God had been sending both MEN and ANGELS to mankind before Muhammad was born.

Why is allahh lying on many pages of the quran?
Re: Who Does Allah Choose As Messengers? by Empiree: 11:39am On May 16, 2015
What exactly is confusing to you in the verses you quoted?. There are messangers among human like Abraham, Noah, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad(PBUT).

There are also messangers among Angels like Jubril(Gabriel), Mikail(Michael), Israfil, and Asrail. They have their assorted tasks. So what's confusing you?

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Re: Who Does Allah Choose As Messengers? by Rilwayne001: 11:43am On May 16, 2015
And the delusion continues grin cheesy

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Re: Who Does Allah Choose As Messengers? by talkingtruth: 11:56am On May 16, 2015
Empiree:
What exactly is confusing to you in the verses you quoted?. There are messangers among human like Abraham, Noah, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad(PBUT).

There are also messangers among Angels like Jubril(Gabriel), Mikail(Michael), Israfil, and Asrail. They have their assorted tasks. So what's confusing you?

Utter nonsense!

Allah said he did not send any but MEN as messengers before Muhammad. Is that true?
Re: Who Does Allah Choose As Messengers? by Empiree: 12:03pm On May 16, 2015
talkingtruth:


Utter nonsense!

Allah said he did not send any but MEN as messengers before Muhammad. Is that true?
I am trying to diagnose what your problem is exactly. Can you tell?

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Re: Who Does Allah Choose As Messengers? by talkingtruth: 12:15pm On May 16, 2015
Empiree:
I am trying to diagnose what your problem is exactly. Can you tell?

You need to examine yourself if you could not understand the OP.

Allah told Muhammad that he did send only MEN who lived in human habitations as messengers before him. This means he never sent angels or any other being as messengers prior to the coming of Muhammad. Is this true? Who announced the birth of Jesus to Mary? If it is true that he never sent angels as messengers before Muhammad, it shows he was not the God who sent angel Gabriel to Mary.

If you still cannot understand, keep quiet!

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Re: Who Does Allah Choose As Messengers? by malvisguy212: 1:28pm On May 16, 2015
Rilwayne001:
And the delusion continues grin cheesy
the op is very very clear, Allah say he did not send ANGELS but MEN did he send prior to the coming of muhammed, the question is, who send angel Gabriel to Mary?

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Re: Who Does Allah Choose As Messengers? by Rilwayne001: 1:31pm On May 16, 2015
malvisguy212:
the op is very very clear, Allah say he did not send ANGELS but MEN did he send prior to the coming of muhammed, the question is, who send angel Gabriel to Mary?

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Re: Who Does Allah Choose As Messengers? by talkingtruth: 1:57pm On May 16, 2015
[quote author=Rilwayne001 post=33795542][/quote]


Imagine!

Islamic allahh, in his efforts to deceive mankind told many unintelligent lies.

Sorry for muslims who fell into his trap.
Re: Who Does Allah Choose As Messengers? by malvisguy212: 3:12pm On May 16, 2015
[quote author=Rilwayne001 post=33795542][/quote]a wise man who cannot discern lies is indeed a foolish man. Allah say he did not send angel prior to the coming of muhammed meaning angel Gabriel was sent by the true God and not Allah.
Re: Who Does Allah Choose As Messengers? by Empiree: 3:54pm On May 16, 2015
malvisguy212:
a wise man who cannot discern lies is indeed a foolish man. Allah say he did not send angel prior to the coming of muhammed meaning angel Gabriel was sent by the true God and not Allah.
@ underlined, malvis, i thought you would be smarter than self proclaimed 'talkingtruth'. Too bad...just too bad.

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Re: Who Does Allah Choose As Messengers? by talkingtruth: 3:56pm On May 16, 2015
malvisguy212:
a wise man who cannot discern lies is indeed a foolish man. Allah say he did not send angel prior to the coming of muhammed meaning angel Gabriel was sent by the true God and not Allah.

Yes, that is my point bro.

Muslims needs Jesus intervention to be able to recognise the truth. When they see it, they don't recognise it.

Allah also said he sent no messenger to the arabs before Muhammad (Quran 34:44). This shows that Kaaba and the rituals they were doing inside it were not originated by any messenger but by pagans in Mecca, yet allah permits muslims to continue with them. Does that not show that he is a pagan god?

He even confirms what they do in Kaaba are pagan rituals:
Quran 2:158 Pickthal] Lo! (the mountains) As-Safa and Al-Marwah are among the indications of Allah. It is therefore no sin for him who is on pilgrimage to the House (of Allah) or visiteth it, to go around them (AS THE PAGAN CUSTOM IS). And he who doeth good of his own accord, (for him) lo! Allah is Responsive, Aware

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Re: Who Does Allah Choose As Messengers? by talkingtruth: 3:56pm On May 16, 2015
malvisguy212:
a wise man who cannot discern lies is indeed a foolish man. Allah say he did not send angel prior to the coming of muhammed meaning angel Gabriel was sent by the true God and not Allah.

Yes, that is my point bro.

Muslims need Jesus intervention to be able to recognise the truth. When they see it, they don't recognise it.

Allah also said he sent no messenger to the arabs before Muhammad (Quran 34:44). This shows that Kaaba and the rituals they were doing inside it were not originated by any messenger but by pagans in Mecca, yet allah permits muslims to continue with them. Does that not show that he is a pagan god?

He even confirms what they do in Kaaba are pagan rituals:

Quran 2:158 Pickthal] Lo! (the mountains) As-Safa and Al-Marwah are among the indications of Allah. It is therefore no sin for him who is on pilgrimage to the House (of Allah) or visiteth it, to go around them (AS THE PAGAN CUSTOM IS). And he who doeth good of his own accord, (for him) lo! Allah is Responsive, Aware

How else can it be clearer that allahh is a pagan god?

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Re: Who Does Allah Choose As Messengers? by talkingtruth: 8:19pm On May 16, 2015
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Re: Who Does Allah Choose As Messengers? by POPdecorator: 9:01pm On May 16, 2015
talkingtruth:
Only Men

Nor did We send before thee
(as messengers) any but MEN,
whom we did inspire,- (MEN)
LIVING IN HUMAN HABITATIONS. Do
they not travel through the
earth, and see what was the
end of those before them? But
the home of the hereafter is
best, for those who do right.
Will ye not then understand?
[Qur'an 12:109]
yes he's a messenger to all mankind




.....but MEN who lived among humans. Not angels.


Also angels

Allah chooses messengers from
ANGELS and from MEN for Allah
is He Who hears and sees (all
things).
[Qur'an 22:75]

The above quotes are from the 'Glorious Quran' without any discrepancies and reserved in heaven. How true?

The truth is: God had been sending both MEN and ANGELS to mankind before Muhammad was born.

Why is allahh lying on many pages of the quran?

angel were send to prophect while prophect were send to human kind


or angel sent to mankind in ur buybull?
Re: Who Does Allah Choose As Messengers? by Empiree: 9:05pm On May 16, 2015
POPdecorator:
yes he's a messenger to all mankind




angel were send to prophect while prophect were send to human kind


or angel sent to mankind in ur buybull?
common sense, isn't
Re: Who Does Allah Choose As Messengers? by malvisguy212: 9:23pm On May 16, 2015
POPdecorator:
yes he's a messenger to all mankind




angel were send to prophect while prophect were send to human kind


or angel sent to mankind in ur buybull?
nonsense, why did God send Gabriel to Mary and not prophet? Did God send angel to Abraham? The reason you make this comment is because muhammed never directly talk to Allah, he only here the message true angel.

In the bible,all the prophet, God directly talk to them without sending angel.
Re: Who Does Allah Choose As Messengers? by talkingtruth: 9:58pm On May 16, 2015
POPdecorator:
yes he's a messenger to all mankind




angel were send to prophect while prophect were send to human kind

or angel sent to mankind in ur buybull?

What is the meaning of this jargon?

Was Mary a prophet when angel Gabriel visited her?

Was Hagai a prophet when an angel visited her?

All these and other angelic ministrations had happened, yet allahh said he only sent men as messengers, no angels before Muhammad. Smh!

What that simply means is that allahh was not the sender of the angels. Who is he?

You guys lack intelligence, brainwashed or hypnotized. May God deliver you from islamic manipulations.
Re: Who Does Allah Choose As Messengers? by Demmzy15(m): 1:29am On May 17, 2015
Wallahi this 'truthman2012' is a big fat loser! I just love the way you're being exposed! grin grin

Next!!! cheesy

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Re: Who Does Allah Choose As Messengers? by Empiree: 4:52am On May 17, 2015
Hey Op, look, your God was from a woman and nursed like a baby.

Luke 11:27New International Version (NIV)

"As Jesus was saying these things, a woman in the crowd called out, “Blessed is the mother who gave you birth and nursed you.”

Like this...

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Re: Who Does Allah Choose As Messengers? by Empiree: 4:59am On May 17, 2015
And again...your God was circumcised

Luke 2:21New International Version (NIV)

On the eighth day, when it was time to circumcise the child, he was named Jesus, the name the angel had given him before he was conceived.

You sure this is God?



Your God circumcised like you and I grin

Like this

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Re: Who Does Allah Choose As Messengers? by true2god: 7:36am On May 17, 2015
Demmzy15:
Wallahi this 'truthman2012' is a big fat loser! I just love the way you're being exposed! grin grin

Next!!! cheesy
Who was exposed, mohammed or the OP? The quran said that there is no messenger sent, aside men and the simple question asked was that is Angel Gabriel a human being? You have failed to address this issue critically.

If your prophet lied, maybe out of ignorant, it is understandable and he can be forgiven (for his ignorance), but how can you defend his lies after being lectured of how he lied or made mistakes?
Re: Who Does Allah Choose As Messengers? by talkingtruth: 9:10am On May 17, 2015
Empiree:
And again...your God was circumcised

Luke 2:21New International Version (NIV)

On the eighth day, when it was time to circumcise the child, he was named Jesus, the name the angel had given him before he was conceived.

You sure this is God?



Your God circumcised like you and I grin

Like this

Off topic for lack of defence.

Is that the reason the quran is full of glaring LIES?

Were angels not sent before Muhammad was born? Why is allahh lying if not to deceive?

You can't understand the nature of Jesus as you are a carnal man. He came as a man, subject to human conditions.

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Re: Who Does Allah Choose As Messengers? by POPdecorator: 1:05pm On May 17, 2015
malvisguy212:
nonsense, why did God send Gabriel to Mary and not prophet?
follow this link http://www.onislam.net/english/ask-about-islam/society-and-family/interfaith-issues/166362-female-prophets.html


Did God send angel to Abraham?
yes,when he was in the fire,ALLAH sent jubril to him

The reason you make this comment is because muhammed never directly talk to Allah, he only here the message true angel
go and read al-isra and al-miraj frm islamic section
u go c d truth

In the bible,all the prophet, God directly talk to them without sending angel.
even jesus testified it that he never talk to God let me back it with some verse


John 5:37 ►
Parallel Verses
New International Version
And the Father who sent me has himself testified concerning me. You have never heard his voice nor seen his form,

but if na lie lemme see the verse in which jesus talk to God
Re: Who Does Allah Choose As Messengers? by Empiree: 11:52pm On May 17, 2015
talkingtruth:


Off topic for lack of defence.

Is that the reason the quran is full of glaring LIES?

Were angels not sent before Muhammad was born? Why is allahh lying if not to deceive?

You can't understand the nature of Jesus as you are a carnal man. He came as a man, subject to human conditions.
trash!. you are answered already

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Re: Who Does Allah Choose As Messengers? by ebetek: 12:26am On May 18, 2015
Who is "allah" really?
The word "allah" is arabic for "god". Is allah really
God or a false "god" that just wants to be God? One
of the names of allah is "the most proud one".
Others are "khayru al-makireen" which means "the
greatest of all deceivers" and "al mumit" which
means "the creator of death". Is allah the same as
the Christian God? The Christian God has an only
begotten Son named Yeshua ha'Mashiach (Jesus
Christ) Who came in the flesh to die on the cross so
that our sins can be washed away in His blood for
anyone willing to just believe and repent(John
3:16-18). Sura 23:91 in the Koran states allah has
no begotten son(read 1 John 2:22 to see what that
means). The Koran states that the prophet Isa,
whom they try to dishonestly relate to Jesus, will
return with the Mahdi to admit he LIED and did not
die on the cross but Judas Iscariot did in his place
in secret. The Koran then goes on to strangely say
this lying prophet Isa will be the one to judge the
world after the Madhi's work is done. The Mahdi is
suppose to come and rule the entire world for the
last 7 years as an Islamic empire while beheading
all infidels that refuse to convert to Islam (should
sound familiar to Christians). According to sura
27:82, allah will bring a beast forth from inside the
earth to punish infidels (compare to Revelation
13:11).

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Re: Who Does Allah Choose As Messengers? by truthman2012(m): 9:28am On May 18, 2015
ebetek:
Who is "allah" really? The word "allah" is arabic for "god". Is allah really God or a false "god" that just wants to be God? One of the names of allah is "the most proud one". Others are "khayru al-makireen" which means "the greatest of all deceivers" and "al mumit" which means "the creator of death". Is allah the same as the Christian God? The Christian God has an only begotten Son named Yeshua ha'Mashiach (Jesus Christ) Who came in the flesh to die on the cross so that our sins can be washed away in His blood for anyone willing to just believe and repent(John 3:16-18). Sura 23:91 in the Koran states allah has no begotten son(read 1 John 2:22 to see what that means). The Koran states that the prophet Isa, whom they try to dishonestly relate to Jesus, will return with the Mahdi to admit he LIED and did not die on the cross but Judas Iscariot did in his place in secret. The Koran then goes on to strangely say this lying prophet Isa will be the one to judge the world after the Madhi's work is done. The Mahdi is suppose to come and rule the entire world for the last 7 years as an Islamic empire while beheading all infidels that refuse to convert to Islam (should sound familiar to Christians). According to sura 27:82, allah will bring a beast forth from inside the earth to punish infidels (compare to Revelation 13:11).
This is revealing bro.
Re: Who Does Allah Choose As Messengers? by eshbeewanna: 10:22am On May 18, 2015
talkingtruth:


Utter nonsense!

Allah said he did not send any but MEN as messengers before Muhammad. Is that true?

O boy why are you making mockery of yourself?
A good student would have known that GOD is talking about prophets(human) just the same way he chooses to send messages through any of the Angels.So what is confusing you about that.
Shai! Common sense is not common oooo!
Anyway your intent is obvious here.You don't Mean well for your religion let alone other people's religion.
Re: Who Does Allah Choose As Messengers? by eshbeewanna: 10:30am On May 18, 2015
truthman2012:


This is revealing bro.

Look at one blind man leading another.Your ignorance is just grade one.
Re: Who Does Allah Choose As Messengers? by truthman2012(m): 10:39am On May 18, 2015
eshbeewanna:


O boy why are you making mockery of yourself?
A good student would have known that GOD is talking about prophets(human) just the same way he chooses to send messages through any of the Angels.So what is confusing you about that.
Shai! Common sense is not common oooo!
Anyway your intent is obvious here.You don't Mean well for your religion let alone other people's religion.

You must have low reasoning ability and that is why you are a muslim. The more you read the quran the less intelligent you become because allahh knows if you IQ is normal, you will detect his falsehood.

The OP is so clear! allahh said he never sent any other beings as messengers before muhammad but only men. The question is: who sent angel Gabriel to Mary before muhammad was born? I know you can still not understand because allahh does not want you to detect him. You need deliverance.
Re: Who Does Allah Choose As Messengers? by eshbeewanna: 10:53am On May 18, 2015
ebetek:
Who is "allah" really?
The word "allah" is arabic for "god". Is allah really
God or a false "god" that just wants to be God? One
of the names of allah is "the most proud one".
Others are "khayru al-makireen" which means "the
greatest of all deceivers" and "al mumit" which
means "the creator of death". Is allah the same as
the Christian God?
13:11).

Please mr Ignorant can you please give us another name the Arab used for the one true God in Arabic before the advent of Islam?If Allah is not.

Can you tell your arab christian brothers who have been christians before you and your european brothers to remove Allah from their bible because that is what they used for God in their bible?

I ask you again is the word used for God by other race during the pagan period before christianity came to them the same God in your bible?Because you have embrassed them in your religion by using their gods to represent God in the various bible translations for each nation.
Please answer these questions.
Re: Who Does Allah Choose As Messengers? by eshbeewanna: 11:16am On May 18, 2015
truthman2012:


You must have low reasoning ability and that is why you are a muslim. The more you read the quran the less intelligent you become because allahh knows if you IQ is normal, you will detect his falsehood.

The OP is so clear! allahh said he never sent any other beings as messengers before muhammad but only men. The question is: who sent angel Gabriel to Mary before muhammad was born? I know you can still not understand because allahh does not want you to detect him. You need deliverance.

Hello if you are not a confused human being you would have known that the two verses you quoted have different meaning because in one of verse God was talking about human prophets and in the other angels.But your mischief will not allow you discern simple explanation and logic.

Please what do you have to explain about these below?

Contradictions

Matt 19:26 says “But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.

“Judges 1:19 says “And the LORD was with Judah; and he drave out the inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley, because they had chariots of iron.” This is remarkable on its own, revealing a far-from-omnipotent tribal god being defeated by technology
.
Mark 15:25 says “And it was the third hour, and they crucified him.”John 19:14-16 says “…about the sixth hour…they cried out…crucify him….Then delivered he him therefore unto them to be crucified.”

2 Kings 24:8 says “Jehoiachin was eighteen years old when he began to reign, and he reigned in Jerusalem three months.”2 Chronicles 36:9 says “Jehoiachin was eight years old when he began to reign, and he reigned three months and ten days in Jerusalem…”

2 Kings 8:26 says “Two and twenty years old was Ahaziah when he began to reign…

”2 Chronicles 22:2 says “Forty and two years old was Ahaziah when he began to reing.

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