true2god:
Guy you bad oooo, see how you finished this islamic terrorist, EzioAuditore, in one sentence. You are very right, no man will hit his head on a german floor, on a daily basis, and still remain reasonable. Constantly hitting ones head on the floor has a negetive effect on ones thinking faculty of which EzioAuditore is an ignorant victim.

Proffdada:

I don't speak ape, maybe some day you'll have a brain to learn new tricks but as long as u slam ur head to the ground five times a day to an idol in mecca, u will never find intelligence

dalaman:


Don't think you are the only one that can threaten people? Believe me, many people here are more crazy than you. Stop threatening people.

true2god:
Guy you bad oooo, see how you finished this islamic terrorist, EzioAuditore, in one sentence. You are very right, no man will hit his head on a german floor, on a daily basis, and still remain reasonable. Constantly hitting ones head on the floor has a negetive effect on ones thinking faculty of which EzioAuditore is an ignorant victim.

Proffdada:
he's not even trying cuz I'll decimate his ego

tartar9:
when fools proudly elaborate on their stupidity,so bowing ones head will remove your intelligence.just continue.

dalaman:


He only knows himself. He doesn't know others or the people present here. I will repeat it. He should desist from threatening others because he is not the only crazy animal here, many others are far crazier than him. EzioAuditore stop threatening people. You only know yourself, you don't know others. Enough!

EzioAuditore:


New tricks? Lmao! What new tricks? You're the charlatan who claims to know what an IP address is but yet you don't seem to know the first thing about it. It seems you decided to skip the topic and resort to the usual christian turd you bellends spew when you've been exposed for the ignorant buffoons you are! Shame on you, if hitting my head five times on the ground prevents me from becoming a f*cktard like you then that's what I will do. BTW, this git who worships a one eyed egyptian sun god is accussing me of idol worship? Lmao! There is no coming back from that.

tartar9:
when fools proudly elaborate on their stupidity,so bowing ones head will remove your intelligence.just continue.

Proffdada:

One word floccinaucinihilipilification

EzioAuditore:


The problem with using big words is that they always make you look st*pid, but in your case you are indeed st*pid, f*cktarded even. Its a scientific fact.

Proffdada:
if u know the meaning then you'll shut up

EzioAuditore:



You've lost the plot dumbo!

Proffdada:

Lemme school you a bit, IP address is not static like mac address cuz it can be masked, meaning I can be posting from a remote vpn in Russia. But u don't know this nor understand cuz u only watch movies and play computer games, wake up to reality and get ur head out of ur mom's laps. Ur Mohammed the illiterate never wanted his followers to be educated in the 1st place

EzioAuditore:



Lmao! Now I'm really sure this bloke might truely be f*cktarded. You're mentioning normal IP addresses and you're confusing it with masked IP addresses? Did you even read what you wrote? All devices have a unique standard iP address which can be changed or rather masked by cloaking applications. It seems you're completely clueless on this topic, like I said before, you're a charlatan! So I doubt if you actually know the function you're talking about is not a standard function but rather the function of ip cloaking applications which means you're probably not using one. You my friend are as daft as a cow. FOH: before you embarrass yourself any further! Lol! And the ninny wazzock was confident enough to say he was going to school me. School me on something he has no clue about? Lol! Piss off! You in turn, just got schooled by an "illiterate". Worthless plonker!

wiegraf:


You wrote this nonsense yet have the gall to call another 'charlatan'??

You don't seem to be disagreeing with him sef, just obfuscating and rambling. For instance any router could change the return IP of a packet, doesn't really make them 'cloacking' applications

Actually, what is wrong with you?

EzioAuditore:


Please read what you wrote again, compare it to the topic we're discussing, show the world how much of an slowpoke you are, please say it makes sense.

wiegraf:


It really seems you've been watching too much fiction

Why, please, educate me, great ser genius.

What's the difference between a normal IP and a 'masked' IP?

How was profdada wrong when he stated he could mask his IP using a VPN (or any other standard proxy, including free ones like tor)?

How do shared ips work?

I might have other questions, but these would do for starters. Thanks

EzioAuditore:


I'm not threatening anyone you twirly d*mb f*ck. I'm just opening your ninny minds to the reality of things, obviously you gits are too clueless to understand that only imb*ciles think forums like this are truely anonymous. Like I said, if muslims were half as violent as you make them out to be then you're all sundays hamburger.

EzioAuditore:



The plonker was not saying he could mask his ip, he was saying all ip's are that way by default. Please read his post again, and congrats btw, your stupidity is of a special case, all the time it took you to re-read that you couldn't pick up on my point. I did warn you to just shut up did i not?

dalaman:


Muslims are as violent as they can be. But others are more shopisticated and have shut them up completely. The muslims in the middle east had to keep quite and lick their wounds over Israel. Left to them Israel needs to be obliterated but the Jews are more sophisticated and are constantly teaching them lessons. You think if a war breaks out between muslims and the rest of the world there will be one muslim left on earth? Stop with threatining people.

wiegraf:


Please, allow to continue making a fool of myself

Sooo, where did he state all ips are 'masked', oh great and noble and wise man? And which nigerian film deluded you into thinking all machines on a network come locked with some static IP by default??

BTW, after we're done with this, you could then proceed to tell us how you intend to get said IP address. Thanks

Proffdada:

Lemme school you a bit, IP address is not static like mac address cuz it can be masked, meaning I can be posting from a remote vpn in Russia. But u don't know this nor understand cuz u only watch movies and play computer games, wake up to reality and get ur head out of ur mom's laps. Ur Mohammed the illiterate never wanted his followers to be educated in the 1st place

EzioAuditore:


Here your fellow pillock talks of masking ip addresses as a default function of all ip's, knowing how much of a lazy sod you are I'm quite sure you didn't read how his shameless exhibition started, if you did you'd understand how the idiot is going off topic. I did not say anything about ips being locked. I mentioned that devices when browsing have a unique true IP address. Which if attained by a person can easily be traced, even if you mask it to others, your true ip still exists.



As to your question about how to attain other people's ip addresses, I'm not about to explain that to a person with the intelligence of a rat. I suggest you google it or check the multiple YouTube videos dedicated to that like all other people who are actually interested in learning. Not that you can grasp it, but It will be a start.


And please if you don't speak English just let me know so I can explain it in your native language, because so far it seems the queens language eludes your understanding.

EzioAuditore:


You're talking about war and israel now? So when the jews kill the women and children of the palestinians, no one calls them violent or terrorists, but when the muslims retaliate, they're the terrorists? Okay! On their own land? After they let the jews in and gave them safe haven? Smh, the fact that you brought this up just proves the sort of messed up person you are. Even some of your fellow christians will be ashamed of you. There's nothing funnier than when a naïve christian actually thinks a jew is his ally. But its a good thing God sends people like hitler from time to time to fry their kosher ass*s! I have never liked iran, but people like you make me wish I they will fry those monkeys out of existence, but even if they don't, someone else will, that is Gods promise. The rest of your post just shows that you think like an ankle biter. Again, just opening your ninny minds.

wiegraf:


Err, yes ser genius also known as talking out of your a&& with amusing confidence, which obtainable in all instance 'true' IP are you talking about??

There is NO such thing

I already asked you if you know how dynamic ips and routing works to which you delivered a trademarked vacuous response. However, in my infinite patience I shall give you another chance to redeem yourself and a kindergarten level explanation of simplicities that impressively seem to be over your head

He never mentions it was the default my remarkably foolish friend. he mentions IP addresses are not static by default. unlike Mac addresses which are fixed and hardware locked by default, IP addreses are assigned by software a hell of a lot of the time

in fact, if you're using a PC ATM, the ip you're using was likely assigned by your os say at startup initially. When you make a request via the internet, your router will then override and assign you a new one which is what is visible to external computers not on your local network. Your router could send requests from multiple computers on your network, with no set limit (it could be millions) and use the same external facing ip for each of them. There would be NO way that you could tell which computer sent what, only the router responsible would be able to tell by looking at its tables. Dynamic ips and routing in a nutshell.

To compound on the above, various proxies can be employed intermediately which would act like routers and continue changing the ip address. Each new proxy not knowing what is on the network that sent the request. All they know is request Bleep came from router/proxy yyy.

So, how you intend to find out just who sent what, or even just how many machines are behind a particular address, is what baffles me. You can access these logs on the routers/proxies? After that, you can decipher them? Abi you intend to use some sort of miracle akin to slicing the moon in half?

As for the rest, humor me. Consider it charity. Abi you want to claim off topic now when you're the mentally challenged one who clearly claimed to be capable of the impossible, the one who raised the topic?

wiegraf:


Err, yes ser genius also known as talking out of your a&& with amusing confidence, which obtainable in all instance 'true' IP are you talking about??

There is NO such thing

I already asked you if you know how dynamic ips and routing works to which you delivered a trademarked vacuous response. However, in my infinite patience I shall give you another chance to redeem yourself and a kindergarten level explanation of simplicities that impressively seem to be over your head

He never mentions it was the default my remarkably foolish friend. he mentions IP addresses are not static by default. unlike Mac addresses which are fixed and hardware locked by default, IP addreses are assigned by software a hell of a lot of the time

in fact, if you're using a PC ATM, the ip you're using was likely assigned by your os say at startup initially. When you make a request via the internet, your router will then override and assign you a new one which is what is visible to external computers not on your local network. Your router could send requests from multiple computers on your network, with no set limit (it could be millions) and use the same external facing ip for each of them. There would be NO way that you could tell which computer sent what, only the router responsible would be able to tell by looking at its tables. Dynamic ips and routing in a nutshell.

To compound on the above, various proxies can be employed intermediately which would act like routers and continue changing the ip address. Each new proxy not knowing what is on the network that sent the request. All they know is request Bleep came from router/proxy yyy.

So, how you intend to find out just who sent what, or even just how many machines are behind a particular address, is what baffles me. You can access these logs on the routers/proxies? After that, you can decipher them? Abi you intend to use some sort of miracle akin to slicing the moon in half?

As for the rest, humor me. Consider it charity. Abi you want to claim off topic now when you're the mentally challenged one who clearly claimed to be capable of the impossible, the one who raised the topic?

dalaman:


I am actually telling you that some muslims are actually as violent as they can be but the fact that others are more sophisticated than them is what is holding them back. Many muslims will openly tell you that islam will conquer the world through violence. The only reason they aren't trying to set the ball rolling is because others are better than them and they know that if they try it they'll lose. Don't pretend about that. As for Israel, they can go and rot where ever,if they like the can all burn, I don't care about them. I just used them as an example of a nation that were ganged up on by the Islamic nations but their military might is what saved them and what is saving them against the islamic nations that surround them.

EzioAuditore:


Here your fellow pillock talks of masking ip addresses as a default function of all ip's, knowing how much of a lazy sod you are I'm quite sure you didn't read how his shameless exhibition started, if you did you'd understand how the id*ot is going off topic. I did not say anything about ips being locked. I mentioned that devices when browsing have a unique true IP address. Which if attained by a person can easily be traced, even if you mask it to others, your true ip still exists.



As to your question about how to attain other people's ip addresses, I'm not about to explain that to a person with the intelligence of a rat. I suggest you google it or check the multiple YouTube videos dedicated to that like all other people who are actually interested in learning. Not that you can grasp it, but It will be a start.


And please if you don't speak English just let me know so I can explain it in your native language, because so far it seems the queens language eludes your understanding.

wiegraf:


Err, yes ser genius also known as talking out of your a&& with amusing confidence, which obtainable in all instance 'true' IP are you talking about??

There is NO such thing

I already asked you if you know how dynamic ips and routing works to which you delivered a trademarked vacuous response. However, in my infinite patience I shall give you another chance to redeem yourself and a kindergarten level explanation of simplicities that impressively seem to be over your head

He never mentions it was the default my remarkably foolish friend. he mentions IP addresses are not static by default. unlike Mac addresses which are fixed and hardware locked by default, IP addreses are assigned by software a hell of a lot of the time

in fact, if you're using a PC ATM, the ip you're using was likely assigned by your os say at startup initially. When you make a request via the internet, your router will then override and assign you a new one which is what is visible to external computers not on your local network. Your router could send requests from multiple computers on your network, with no set limit (it could be millions) and use the same external facing ip for each of them. There would be NO way that you could tell which computer sent what, only the router responsible would be able to tell by looking at its tables. Dynamic ips and routing in a nutshell.

To compound on the above, various proxies can be employed intermediately which would act like routers and continue changing the ip address. Each new proxy not knowing what is on the network that sent the request. All they know is request Bleep came from router/proxy yyy.

So, how you intend to find out just who sent what, or even just how many machines are behind a particular address, is what baffles me. You can access these logs on the routers/proxies? After that, you can decipher them? Abi you intend to use some sort of miracle akin to slicing the moon in half?

As for the rest, humor me. Consider it charity. Abi you want to claim off topic now when you're the mentally challenged one who clearly claimed to be capable of the impossible, the one who raised the topic?

EzioAuditore:


Lmao! Dude! I asked you to tell me if you didn't speak English, now show me where I said all systems come with locked hard ware ip addresses? The truth is that you're backed into a corner and you're trying to put words into my mouth in order to crucify me. If you did speak English and you read my last post, I stated that when you're browsing at a certain time your IP address is intact and exists even if you cloak it to others. Now two or more devices can have the similar or same IP address when browsing from the same router, both devices will be seen as having the same ip addresses externally. Your router relays requests to the originating computer, however if you were trying to communicate directly to a computer, you would use your internal addresses. These use a custom range intended for internal use only. Network interfaces are given ip addresses by your modems, routers etc which gives the AP (access point) an IP. Now bear in mind there are two types of ip addresses, the public and private ones, public addresses you see on the Internet (try googling and Google will provide you with it). Inside of a network you usually have a private IP address setup, which do not exist on web servers and are reserved for local networks. I hope I am not overloading your brain, please keep up.

Your home network has a getaway. This means they are not supposed to be accessible from the outside world, they are meant to be inside your network. Your modem links the public internet to your network. Requests from internal network get sent on your modem which forwards them to the internet. This way only one public IP address is required for all your devices to talk to the Internet. Various tools and methods exist to trace a public IP address to a specific computer or general geographic location.

Now with your public IP address, This can be tracked when an Internet user clicks a link, goes to a website, enters a chat room or sends an email. Locating and identifying an IP address may require one to analyze email headers or utilize a third party IP address logging website. The downside of this inter-connectedness is that a logical location provided by the IP address is an open arms invitation to spammers and hackers. Being able to trace an IP address to a PC is a direct way to remove the cloak of anonymity from a computer communicating with your own. Again there are various methods to trace a public IP address to a specific computer or most commonly a general geographic location.

Now this whole discussion started with me advising people to be more careful on the Internet. Being careful meaning using Vpns and fake ip addresses, because a careless poster is susceptible to getting his ip traced, most likely to a location and not necessarily a home address, and the person can start working from there, because usually service providers won't give you the personal information of a person unless there's some sort of case against him. A person who wants to be safe must take steps to prevent his IP from being revealed. It is also important to remember that locating an IP address using online tools does not reveal the physical address of the guy on the computer. The basic tools merely tell you the location of the ISP providing the connection by using publicly available information. To go beyond that and actually nail down the guy will require the law to be in the loop.

I took time to try to explain to you because it seems in your twisted Mind you've actually deluded yourself into thinking you know something about this which you don't! A basic ethical hacking student or a person with a good knowledge about these things can at least pin down your location if not even your home address and will rip you to shreds. I suggest you go and learn more about this before you spue your stupidity! The Internet is not safe, nor is this forum anonymous or a guarantee that you're protected from danger. He said muslims were violent and that forums like these were the best places to criticize islam, and I simply warned him not to believe that because he might be naive enough to attack some pretty hardcore guys while under his delusion because he like you sounds very gullible and clueless. He might be stupid enough to even send a personal email which is like suicide in this case. And trust me mate, a determined person will easily put this together. Again, I am not threatening anyone, just trying to save your tiny hate filled minds! Friggin dweebs!

Proffdada:
let him stick to his video games
His stupidity is amplified by his feigned lingo.. SMH
He's a Neanderthal lucky to have a smartphone that translates monkey language

wiegraf:


Err, and you're asking me if I speak English??

This is very simple, follow slowly abeg; you are the one who refused to accept that IPS are unlike Mac addresses. They are not hardware locked and can be assigned on the go. That was what profdadda said in his post which you foolishly contested. You now seem to be backtracking or meandering or whatever on that. I even state that you don't necessarily disagree with him, you just foolishly ramble and obfuscate and you continue to do so.

To compound on that you still continue to insist that you can trace an ip address of a packet under any circumstances. That is a LIE. In all this for instance I note a distinct lack of showing how you'll access a routers tables, how you'll get the private network address, which is obviously key. You admit you'll have to contact an ISP first? so please, you think you're going to get the required info from them? What if one were using tor, do you think you'd even get to know who the ISP were?? Vpns would just hand you the info?

Again, there is NO such thing as a unique ip address that can always be tracked. That is a lie. One can always mask appropriately if one knows what he's doing, even if you're using static, non shared and publicly available ip. There are always proxies like tor you could use, not to talk of when using dynamic shared IPS.

And you ask me to read properly? It's no surprise you're a Muslim, being this foolish and hypocritical you never stood a chance....