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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 11:37pm On May 25, 2015
elampiro:

I will continue from here tomorrow.

From 2007/8 to date Lampard has 45 Assists. Rooney has 63 same period.

didn't you say you counted from 2005? why change to 2007? grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:54pm On May 25, 2015
sinizia:


What do you gain from beating around the bush? Rooney and Eric's comparison is based only at Man Utd, not national team. Stop running away from the truth!! Eric is a god at Man Utd, Rooney's not!!

why did u start what u cannot finish? u started it . d national team stuff
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 11:54pm On May 25, 2015
elampiro:

Cantona was an AM, so also Rooney too.

Saha returns on per minutes played is a disgrace compared to Rooney. Saha was a CF.

ABEG. YOU GUYS SHOULD ACCEPT DFEAT. GNITE.

how's rooney an AM when he scored 4 goals as a CF this season? how's rooney an AM when his best scoring record was as a striker in 09/10 & 10/12?

did cantona ever play as a striker for united?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:58pm On May 25, 2015
in 2009/10, Rooney would have won d golden boot and help us win the league etc. He never recovered from his injury at Alianz Arena against Bayern Munich. in s return leg SAF made him play through pains and when our results were getting bad and we were fell from top table, SAF rushed Rooney back not injury free.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:02am On May 26, 2015
coogar:


how's rooney an AM when he scored 4 goals as a CF this season? how's rooney an AM when his best scoring record was as a striker in 09/10 & 10/12?

did cantona ever play as a striker for united?

He was an AM. We had this argument twice before. He was playing diagonally to wings then run in to score from crossings. His midfield stats tells it too.

I can't go into a new argument. I got work doing for a long nite.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 12:06am On May 26, 2015
elampiro:
in 2009/10, Rooney would have won d golden boot and help us win the league etc. He never recovered from his injury at Alianz Arena against Bayern Munich. in s return leg SAF made him play through pains and when our results were getting bad and we were fell from top table, SAF rushed Rooney back not injury free.

nah!
rooney just stopped producing after his injury. he played several games after he missed the chelsea/blackburn games & he never returned back to form.

so was he still injured when he didn't score a goal from open play between august 2010 & jan 2011? grin when are you going to admit rooney isn't good enough?

elampiro:

He was an AM. We had this argument twice before. He was playing diagonally to wings then run in to score from crossings. His midfield stats tells it too.
I can't go into a new argument. I got work doing for a long nite.

he was a striker......
no AM has as low as 4 league assists. how can rooney be an AM when his shots per game was about 5?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 3:52am On May 26, 2015
elampiro:


You have lost your sense of logic.

How did we finished in the mid table this season?

2013/2014 season= Ramsey scored 10 goals. Giroud scored 16.
2013/2014 season= Rooney scored 17. RVP scored 12

Tell me how we should have finished well when our midfielder became the top scorer?


2013/2014 season= Ramsey scored 6 goals. Sanchez 16, Giroud scored 14.
2013/2014 season= Rooney scored 12. RVP scored 10






Coogar goodnight. I have load of work tonight against tomorrow. Try to enjoy your sleep tonight.















Ayagayagayagayo hei, ayagayagayagayo. cheesy I don destroy Coogar and his ally. That other new man dey write like Starboard. I be he don go rebrand?


elampiro:


Why lie from the pit of hell? Rooney has only been striker once in United. 2009/2010.

Rooney has now outperformed Falcao. grin

Now you guys say common Diouf. Is Dioud better than Falcao, RVP, Wilson, Chicha?

Abeg, if you are starboard resurrected pls shift. Good night finally.

oga,
respect yourself and keep my name out of your smelling gluttonous mouth.
you are being torn to rags and the best you can do is retort like a pansy.
if you cannot put together a decent point to save yourself from being pursued like a petty pickpocket, kindly drop all references to me and answer your critics like the man you are pretending to be.

You need to get laid. Some of us are trying to get a life yet marabouts like you wont let us be.
face up to the fact that your Rooney is a money grabbing scam and leave me alone.

I trust this b.i.tch to quote me.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 6:29am On May 26, 2015
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 6:33am On May 26, 2015
StarBoard:




oga,
respect yourself and keep my name out of your smelling gluttonous mouth.
you are being torn to rags and the best you can do is retort like a pansy.
if you cannot put together a decent point to save yourself from being pursued like a petty pickpocket, kindly drop all references to me and answer your critics like the man you are pretending to be.

You need to get laid. Some of us are trying to get a life yet marabouts like you wont let us be.
face up to the fact that your Rooney is a money grabbing scam and leave me alone.

I trust this b.i.tch to quote me.

Starboard, long time. Sorry I thought you were the one. I wondered where you have been. May be I should have sent you a mail.

But why the insults?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 6:35am On May 26, 2015
coogar:


how's rooney an AM when he scored 4 goals as a CF this season? how's rooney an AM when his best scoring record was as a striker in 09/10 & 10/12?

did cantona ever play as a striker for united?

I doesnt matter. He scored 27 goals. His diagonal passes to our effective wingers caused it. This is why he still love diagonal passes.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chrisley024(m): 6:38am On May 26, 2015
elampiro:


Whcih can post be this? When did we discuss this?
Stop telling me how he performed in the days of Abraham, we know he was good. Rate his performances in the last 2-3 seasons.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 6:42am On May 26, 2015
I said it that Rooney beats Lampard hands down in Assists they were laughing at themselves. Sinizia and Coogar, see below what I believe to be 'OPTA standard' Assists figures. Lampard played 48,729 minutes. Rooney played 31,776 minutes. Lampard played 16,953 minutes more than Rooney. That is 188 full ninety minutes of football matches.



Premier League All time most assists
Assists Assist name
131
Ryan Giggs
99
Steven Gerrard
96
Frank Lampard
94

Wayne Rooney
89

Francesc Fabregas
80
Thierry Henry
62
James Milner
60
Robin van Persie
59
Gareth Barry
58
Ashley Young
57
Stewart Downing
56
Didier Drogba
53
Peter Crouch
53
Danny Murphy
51
Nolberto Solano
50
Damien Duff
50
Aaron Lennon
49
Nani
49
Dennis Bergkamp
48
Morten Gamst Pedersen
48
David Silva
48
Mikel Arteta
48
Leighton Baines
47
Nicolas Anelka
47
Dimitar Berbatov
46
Cristiano Ronaldo
45
Paul Scholes
45
Luis Antonio Valencia
44
David Beckham
43
Kevin Davies
43
Charles N'Zogbia
43
Robbie Keane
42
Jermaine Pennant
42
Chris Brunt
42
Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink
41
Michael Carrick
40
Steed Malbranque
39
Shaun Wright-Phillips
38
Andrew Cole
38
Paolo Di Canio
38
Theo Walcott
38
Carlos Tevez
38
Gabriel Agbonlahor
38
Robert Pires
37
Emile Heskey
37
Emmanuel Adebayor
37
Matthew Etherington
36
Luis Boa Morte
36
Steven Pienaar
36
Bobby Zamora
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 6:43am On May 26, 2015
chrisley024:
Stop telling me how he performed in the days of Abraham, we know he was good. Rate his performances in the last 2-3 seasons.

Where did you and I have the discussion of Berbatov? That's my question?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 6:53am On May 26, 2015
elampiro:
I said it that Rooney beats Lampard hands down in Assists they were laughing at themselves. Sinizia and Coogar, see below what I believe to be 'OPTA standard' Assists figures. Lampard played 48,729 minutes. Rooney played 31,776 minutes. Lampard played 16,953 minutes more than Rooney. That is 188 full ninety minutes of football matches.



Premier League All time most assists
Assists Assist name

96
Frank Lampard
94

Wayne Rooney

Lampard........48, 729/96 = 507.59 minutes to create an Assists.
Rooney..........31, 776/94 = 338.04 minutes to create an Assists.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 6:58am On May 26, 2015
elampiro:
I said it that Rooney beats Lampard hands down in Assists they were laughing at themselves. Sinizia and Coogar, see below what I believe to be 'OPTA standard' Assists figures. Lampard played 48,729 minutes. Rooney played 31,776 minutes. Lampard played 16,953 minutes more than Rooney. That is 188 full ninety minutes of football matches.



Premier League All time most assists
Assists Assist name
131
Ryan Giggs
99
Steven Gerrard
96
Frank Lampard
94

Wayne Rooney
89

Francesc Fabregas
80
Thierry Henry
62
James Milner
60
Robin van Persie
59
Gareth Barry
58
Ashley Young
57
Stewart Downing
56
Didier Drogba
53
Peter Crouch
53
Danny Murphy
51
Nolberto Solano
50
Damien Duff
50
Aaron Lennon
49
Nani
49
Dennis Bergkamp
48
Morten Gamst Pedersen
48
David Silva
48
Mikel Arteta
48
Leighton Baines
47
Nicolas Anelka
47
Dimitar Berbatov
46
Cristiano Ronaldo
45
Paul Scholes
45
Luis Antonio Valencia
44
David Beckham
43
Kevin Davies
43
Charles N'Zogbia
43
Robbie Keane
42
Jermaine Pennant
42
Chris Brunt
42
Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink
41
Michael Carrick
40
Steed Malbranque
39
Shaun Wright-Phillips
38
Andrew Cole
38
Paolo Di Canio
38
Theo Walcott
38
Carlos Tevez
38
Gabriel Agbonlahor
38
Robert Pires
37
Emile Heskey
37
Emmanuel Adebayor
37
Matthew Etherington
36
Luis Boa Morte
36
Steven Pienaar
36
Bobby Zamora

You are not bright at all. Rooney beats Lampard down in assists? And yet Lampard is above him in the all-time assists table? Can't you read? And yes, Rooney scored more RVP in the past two seasons because same way Lampard played more than him, is the same he played more than RVP. A fit RVP will outshine Rooney over and over again. Rooney has been in Man Utd (a top club) for 11 seasons, Lampard spent more time in West Ham (a low club) than Rooney in Everton yet he has more assists than your glorious Rooney. Rooney is over-hyped. In that last 5 seasons before Lampard started playing bench for Chelshit and Manshitty, he's been copping 20+ goals as midfielder, yet Rooney who's been striking has a record of a midfielder. What a shame!! It took Rooney 5 seasons to score 20+ goals, and Harry kane did it in his first season although he started regularly by November. Rooney is a fraud, simpe!!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:06am On May 26, 2015
12:18, 4 JUNE 2014
BY LIAM PRENDERVILLE
After he 35-year-old announced he will be departing west London this summer, we have broken down his trophy-laden career with the Blues

Highest Premier League goal involvement
It is becoming quite clear that Lampard is well ahead of his Chelsea colleagues in the record books, but what about his Premier League rivals?

Well, the England man is the fifth highest scorer in history but his 101 assists (including West Ham spell) sees him finish second behind Alan Shearer in terms of goal involvement, with 272.

He finishes just one ahead of Manchester United legend Ryan Giggs, while Andy Cole and Wayne Rooney complete the top five.

Highest Premier League goal involvement.

Alan Shearer 324
Lamapard 272
Ryan Giggs 271
Andy Cole 260
Wayne Rooney 258
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/frank-lampards-chelsea-career-numbers-3640342

The above was as at Junes 2014. Rooney added 12 goals and 5 assists to his figures this season. Which pushed him to second place behind Shearer.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 7:09am On May 26, 2015
elampiro:


Starboard, long time. Sorry I thought you were the one. I wondered where you have been. May be I should have sent you a mail.

But why the insults?
You started the insults.

Ive logged on to view comments from time to time but i hardly have the time to get involved anymore.
It is pretty shocking that you would keep calling my name even when I have nothing at stake.

Apology accepted, I apologize in return for mine.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:13am On May 26, 2015
sinizia:


You are not bright at all. Rooney beats Lampard down in assists? And yet Lampard is above him in the all-time assists table? Can't you read? And yes, Rooney scored more RVP in the past two seasons because same way Lampard played more than him, is the same he played more than RVP. A fit RVP will outshine Rooney over and over again. Rooney has been in Man Utd (a top club) for 11 seasons, Lampard spent more time in West Ham (a low club) than Rooney in Everton yet he has more assists than your glorious Rooney. Rooney is over-hyped. In that last 5 seasons before Lampard started playing bench for Chelshit and Manshitty, he's been copping 20+ goals as midfielder, yet Rooney who's been striking has a record of a midfielder. What a shame!! It took Rooney 5 seasons to score 20+ goals, and Harry kane did it in his first season although he started regularly by November. Rooney is a fraud, simpe!!

Lampard..........48, 729/96 = 507.59 minutes to create an Assists.
Rooney..........31, 776/94 = 338.04 minutes to create an Assists.

What was the argument last night? Minutes played. Forget all these village stories............ Ronaldo took 3 years to score 20 goals. Kane must be better than Ronaldo. Ukwu!!! Kane is a striker.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 7:24am On May 26, 2015
elampiro:


Lampard..........48, 729/96 = 507.59 minutes to create an Assists.
Rooney..........31, 776/94 = 338.04 minutes to create an Assists.

What was the argument last night? Minutes played. Forget all these village stories............ Ronaldo took 3 years to score 20 goals. Kane must be better than Ronaldo. Ukwu!!! Kane is a striker.

Ronaldo wasn't a striker like your over-paid Rooney.
Ronaldo wasn't over-hyped like Rooney before he came to Man Utd.
Ronaldo cost less than Rooney.
Ronaldo has won the golden boot both in EPL and La Liga.
Ronaldo has played less than Rooney in Man Utd.
Kane was relatively unknown before he blew via his goals. Rooney as a superstar was still scoring 12 goals in a season for Man Utd.


To end this, tell me any top-tier striker, who didn't have injury like Falcao, who played the amount of games Rooney did and scored just one away goal. Shame on Rooney. He's a fraud!! Lampard was third world best player, Rooney won't even be 10th world best.


As a striker, he's not among any credible site's top 5 best EPL striker of all time.

As a midfielder, he's not among any credible site's top 10 EPL midfielder of all time. Give it up, Rooney sucks!!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 7:31am On May 26, 2015
elampiro:
12:18, 4 JUNE 2014
BY LIAM PRENDERVILLE
After he 35-year-old announced he will be departing west London this summer, we have broken down his trophy-laden career with the Blues

Highest Premier League goal involvement
It is becoming quite clear that Lampard is well ahead of his Chelsea colleagues in the record books, but what about his Premier League rivals?

Well, the England man is the fifth highest scorer in history but his 101 assists (including West Ham spell) sees him finish second behind Alan Shearer in terms of goal involvement, with 272.

He finishes just one ahead of Manchester United legend Ryan Giggs, while Andy Cole and Wayne Rooney complete the top five.

Highest Premier League goal involvement.

Alan Shearer 324
Lamapard 272
Ryan Giggs 271
Andy Cole 260
Wayne Rooney 258
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/frank-lampards-chelsea-career-numbers-3640342

The above was as at Junes 2014. Rooney added 12 goals and 5 assists to his figures this season. Which pushed him to second place behind Shearer.

You are not ashamed that as at 2014, after 10years in Man Utd, Rooney as a STRIKER was behind Lampard as midfielder in number of goals involve and could only muster just 12 goals in one full season. Shame on Rooney!!

Compare Ibrahimovic's goals with Lampard upon Lampard started the game before him and see how he dwarfs Lampard. That's how you know a striker!!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 7:33am On May 26, 2015
sinizia:


Ronaldo wasn't a striker like your over-paid Rooney.
Ronaldo wasn't over-hyped like Rooney before he came to Man Utd.
Ronaldo cost less than Rooney.
Ronaldo has won the golden boot both in EPL and La Liga.
Ronaldo has played less than Rooney in Man Utd.
Kane was relatively unknown before he blew via his goals. Rooney as a superstar was still scoring 12 goals in a season for Man Utd.


To end this, tell me any top-tier striker, who didn't have injury like Falcao, who played the amount of games Rooney did and scored just one away goals. Shame on Rooney. He's a fraud!! Lampard was third world best player, Rooney won't even be 10th world best.


As a striker, he's not among any credible site's top 5 best EPL striker.

As a midfielder, he's not among any credible site's top 10 midfielder. Give it up, Rooney sucks!!
grin grin grin the END
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 7:35am On May 26, 2015
I hate all this arguments here, but to be honest I think we should let Rooney leave or make him play as second choice to a new striker...I'd prefer Chicharito to Rooney as things stand...
For a new striker, a cheeky bid for Lewandowski might just be it...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 7:39am On May 26, 2015
SailorXY:

grin grin grin the END

This Elampawa guy is shameless arguing this.

Rooney is not among top 5 best EPL strikers of all time neither in the midfield area after 11 seasons and counting. I'm done arguing this Rooney ish, it's getting stale. The truth will keep haunting Elampawa and Rooney, that's all i will say on this issue.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:01am On May 26, 2015
sinizia:


You are not ashamed that as at 2014, after 10years in Man Utd, Rooney as a STRIKER was behind Lampard as midfielder in number of goals involve and could only muster just 12 goals in one full season. Shame on Rooney!!

Compare Ibrahimovic's goals with Lampard upon Lampard started the game before him and see how he dwarfs Lampard. That's how you know a striker!!


Are you a village kid?

Lampard and Rooney played majorly in the number 10. In the hole.

Lampard has played for 20 years.

Rooney is second behind Alan Shearer as of today. Rooney is the best Attacking Midfielder of his generation.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nihilist: 8:02am On May 26, 2015
sinizia:

This Elampawa guy is shameless arguing this.
Rooney is not among top 5 best EPL strikers of all time neither in the midfield area after 11 seasons and counting. I'm done arguing this Rooney ish, it's getting stale. The truth will keep haunting Elampawa and Rooney, that's all i will say on this issue.

The only person I can blame for this post is Coogar.

No objective footy fan will name his EPL top 5 strikers and leave out Rooney. It's just not possible.

I completely agree that Rooney is not the wrecking ball he once was, but you can't be superman forever.

Someone said Rooney ONLY scored 170 EPL goals. ONLY?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:05am On May 26, 2015
sinizia:


Ronaldo wasn't a striker like your over-paid Rooney.
Ronaldo wasn't over-hyped like Rooney before he came to Man Utd.
Ronaldo cost less than Rooney.
Ronaldo has won the golden boot both in EPL and La Liga.
Ronaldo has played less than Rooney in Man Utd.
Kane was relatively unknown before he blew via his goals. Rooney as a superstar was still scoring 12 goals in a season for Man Utd.


To end this, tell me any top-tier striker, who didn't have injury like Falcao, who played the amount of games Rooney did and scored just one away goal. Shame on Rooney. He's a fraud!! Lampard was third world best player, Rooney won't even be 10th world best.


As a striker, he's not among any credible site's top 5 best EPL striker of all time.

As a midfielder, he's not among any credible site's top 10 EPL midfielder of all time. Give it up, Rooney sucks!!

Rooney is not a striker. He is an AM predominantly.
Many of the things you wrote u there are illogical. Ronaldo earned higher than Rooney at Man United. Rooney was not bought as a striker, Kane is an out and out striker.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 8:07am On May 26, 2015
Nihilist:


The only person I can blame for this post is Coogar.

No objective footy fan will name his EPL top 5 strikers and leave out Rooney. It's just not possible.

I completely agree that Rooney is not the wrecking ball he once was, but you can't be superman forever.

Someone said Rooney ONLY scored 170 EPL goals. ONLY?


You misunderstood me. I mean Rooney will never make top 5 EPL striker of all time for any credible site. I'm not saying for this season only, i meant for all time since EPL inception in 1991 (i stand to be corrected).
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 8:08am On May 26, 2015
elampiro:


Rooney is not a striker.
Many of the things you wrote u there are illogical. Ronaldo earned higher than Rooney at Man United. Rooney was not bought as a striker, Kane is an out and out striker.

Yeah, Rooney is a defender. undecided is Ronaldo a striker?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:11am On May 26, 2015
sinizia:


Yeah, Rooney is a defender. undecided is Ronaldo a striker?

Ronaldo and Rooney are not strikers. Although they can operate as strikers. Rooney has been an AM for us, even Ferguson said this.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nihilist: 8:11am On May 26, 2015
sinizia:


You misunderstood me. I mean Rooney will never make top 5 EPL striker of all time for any credible site. I'm not saying for this season only, i meant for all time since EPL inception in 1991 (i stand to be corrected).

3rd highest EPL scorer of ALL TIME won't make top 5 on any credible site?

Rooney is only two goals away from being 2nd highest goal scorer in the EPL of all time, but he won't make top 5 strikers list in the league?

What 'credible' sites are you reading?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nihilist: 8:14am On May 26, 2015
170 goals in 340 league appearances is a goal every 2 games.

A GOAL EVERY OTHER GAME...since 2004

Some of you fans are just ungrateful idiots.

By all means, yes Rooney has declined. But to say he's overhyped? Overhyped?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 8:15am On May 26, 2015
Abeg enough of dis Wazza arguments ,we should be talking about our transfer businesses dis season ,which player(s) will be leaving n which r coming in , Otamendi's agent said his clients €50m release clause must be met ...mk we shift from dat side quick quick!

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