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Re: Christian Syrian Fighter Beheads Isis Prisoner In Revenge by pneumaticos(m): 8:54am On Jun 01, 2015 |
Jagoon: perfect answer |
Re: Christian Syrian Fighter Beheads Isis Prisoner In Revenge by Demmzy15(m): 12:30pm On Jun 01, 2015 |
Jagoon:The expansion of Islam to Europe was stopped 300years before the Crusades started. The first Crusade was called by Pope Urban II to drive Muslims from Palestine and its environs. Muslims weren't at war with christains, but they came from Europe killing Muslims, Arab Christians, Jews and all those that opposed them. In the siege of 'Marra' the Crusaders ate dead bodies of Arabs, yes, they did. What's amazing was that, they were all anointed by the Pope. No reasonable Christian would ever defend the atrocities of the Crusaders, in fact many Christians are embarrassed to what they did. So don't come here and twist history! @bolded, I sha know say Adolf Hitler was a baptised Christian, in fact there were Catholic Priests running concentration camps meant for children. Christians slaughtered each other like beasts and yet you open your mouth and say sh't?! 2 Likes |
Re: Christian Syrian Fighter Beheads Isis Prisoner In Revenge by Demmzy15(m): 12:40pm On Jun 01, 2015 |
Jagoon:Fixed! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Christian Syrian Fighter Beheads Isis Prisoner In Revenge by Demmzy15(m): 12:41pm On Jun 01, 2015 |
pneumaticos:Now start bashing my tribe and religion! |
Re: Christian Syrian Fighter Beheads Isis Prisoner In Revenge by Rilwayne001: 1:00pm On Jun 01, 2015 |
Demmzy15: Well FIXED 1 Like |
Re: Christian Syrian Fighter Beheads Isis Prisoner In Revenge by Demmzy15(m): 1:03pm On Jun 01, 2015 |
Rilwayne001:I dey sure e go pain am well! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Christian Syrian Fighter Beheads Isis Prisoner In Revenge by Rilwayne001: 1:07pm On Jun 01, 2015 |
Demmzy15:Nice one bro. 1 Like |
Re: Christian Syrian Fighter Beheads Isis Prisoner In Revenge by Ubenedictus(m): 1:30pm On Jun 01, 2015 |
Demmzy15:that was exactly how the crusades started before some went absolutely crazy |
Re: Christian Syrian Fighter Beheads Isis Prisoner In Revenge by Demmzy15(m): 2:57pm On Jun 01, 2015 |
Ubenedictus:All went crazy because their leaders were crazy, brutality was their goal! |
Re: Christian Syrian Fighter Beheads Isis Prisoner In Revenge by Nobody: 3:08pm On Jun 01, 2015 |
Demmzy15: Nope they went crazy in response to allah's demon possessed blood sucking jihadists atrocities. |
Re: Christian Syrian Fighter Beheads Isis Prisoner In Revenge by Demmzy15(m): 3:55pm On Jun 01, 2015 |
Jagoon:You're just a rude beast of burden! So sick! 1 Like |
Re: Christian Syrian Fighter Beheads Isis Prisoner In Revenge by Ubenedictus(m): 5:23pm On Jun 01, 2015 |
Demmzy15:brutality was never the goal. The goal was "just war against an unjust aggressor. 2 Likes |
Re: Christian Syrian Fighter Beheads Isis Prisoner In Revenge by Nobody: 5:42pm On Jun 01, 2015 |
Demmzy15: It's not 1% as sick as what your fellow muslims (isis) who are walking in the footsteps of mohamed are doing. If you find my statements sickening then you should find the character of mohamad revolting. 1 Like |
Re: Christian Syrian Fighter Beheads Isis Prisoner In Revenge by Demmzy15(m): 6:08pm On Jun 01, 2015 |
Jagoon:Nothing reasonable, still signs of desperation! I just want you to know that, you can't win on a Muslim's thread! This thread was created by Rilwayne001 and all of you have been humiliated! 2 Likes |
Re: Christian Syrian Fighter Beheads Isis Prisoner In Revenge by Demmzy15(m): 6:10pm On Jun 01, 2015 |
Ubenedictus:Muslims weren't the aggressors, they were aggressors and transgressors! I hope you aren't trying to defend their actions?! |
Re: Christian Syrian Fighter Beheads Isis Prisoner In Revenge by Nobody: 6:42pm On Jun 01, 2015 |
Demmzy15: Small time you will come and tell us that boko haram and isis are not aggressors that they are only defending themselves. 1 Like |
Re: Christian Syrian Fighter Beheads Isis Prisoner In Revenge by Demmzy15(m): 6:50pm On Jun 01, 2015 |
Jagoon:Smh! Olodo! , how old are you sef?! |
Re: Christian Syrian Fighter Beheads Isis Prisoner In Revenge by Ubenedictus(m): 7:10pm On Jun 01, 2015 |
Demmzy15: did muslim not move into lands that weren't their? Did they not start a jihad from the middle east even to the doors of italy, lepanto? So yeah, the muslims began aggression on Christian countries and even distroyed the church of the selpucher, ie the site of Jesus resurrection, there were also reports of violence to Christian pilgrims going to Jerusalem. That is what led to the crusades, a sustained and continous aggression by muslims. 2 Likes |
Re: Christian Syrian Fighter Beheads Isis Prisoner In Revenge by Demmzy15(m): 10:44pm On Jun 01, 2015 |
Ubenedictus: Yes Muslims liberated Palestine from the Byzantine oppressors who wanted to wipe out Islam during the time of the Prophet. Byzantine Empire wanted to destroy Islam during the battle of 'Mutah', but the Muslims were successful. Muslims continued to advance forward until they were stopped in France! Ubenedictus:The Byzantine Empire started it all, this was why Muslims attempted to take over 'Constantinople'. @bolded, I don't know the Selpucher you're talking about! When Umar liberated Jerusalem, some church fathers invited Umar and the Muslims to pray in the Selpucher, but he refused because he didn't want later Muslims to claim the area(just because he prayed in it) which was meant for christains. During later Sultans, when the wailing walls of Jews was reduced, Muslims built them back! So don't twist history here! Ubenedictus:None of this lead to the crusades. Muslims, Christians and Jews lived happily in Palestine for 300years after the war with the Byzantine Empire, in fact everyone was allowed for their various pilgrimage. Everything changed when the crusades attacked. If the crusades wanted to revenge on Muslims for taking over their lands, why did they clear and destroyed Jewish(who had nothing to do with Muslims) villages?! Why did they burn Jews?! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Christian Syrian Fighter Beheads Isis Prisoner In Revenge by Nobody: 8:17am On Jun 02, 2015 |
Re: Christian Syrian Fighter Beheads Isis Prisoner In Revenge by Demmzy15(m): 2:37pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
Jagoon:Lmaooooo , so you're someone's father and you behave like a retard?! 1 Like |
Re: Christian Syrian Fighter Beheads Isis Prisoner In Revenge by Nobody: 2:45pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
Demmzy15: Is dat how you address your father at home? Òmó àlé jati jati. |
Re: Christian Syrian Fighter Beheads Isis Prisoner In Revenge by Demmzy15(m): 2:55pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
Jagoon:Oponu iranu! Old man wey no get sense, I can't believe a yoruba Christian like you would be here bashing Muslims on this forum! It's really disappointing! 1 Like |
Re: Christian Syrian Fighter Beheads Isis Prisoner In Revenge by Nobody: 3:34pm On Jun 02, 2015 |
Demmzy15: But you don't feel disappointed when your muslim brothers in the north following the foot steps of mohamed murder innocent people in the name of allah. You really need to get your head examined. |
Re: Christian Syrian Fighter Beheads Isis Prisoner In Revenge by Ubenedictus(m): 3:32pm On Jun 03, 2015 |
Demmzy15: lol, liberation indeed, muslims left medina and mecca and entered Egypt a Christian nation, then syria, Jerusalem and then constantinople and yet you claim it was liberation. Sorry dear that is the definition of an all out war! They didn't stop there they entered spain and would have reached Italy if they weren't stop. That was an all out military aggression. The muslims didn't win the battle of Mutah, A group of messengers were mistakenly killed by a garrison commander and muhammed decided to raise an army of about 3,000 to punish the village, they cried to byzatium for help and the emperor sent his own army, 3 of the major muslims commaders died in that war and one of byzatium died and the muslims didn't get the reinforcement they wanted so they played a series of tricks and retreated back to medina. Actually the muslim force were beaten in the first round hence the reason they ran back to medina. |
Re: Christian Syrian Fighter Beheads Isis Prisoner In Revenge by Ubenedictus(m): 3:54pm On Jun 03, 2015 |
Demmzy15: lol, the very funny stories muslims tell, non muslims were actually discriminated against in Jerusalem, the jews though had the better deal but the Christians were in essence second class citizens, forbidden to proselytize, worship outside of specific locations, limited in areas where they could travel, forced to bow before Muslim Mosques and Imams, charged to wear specific clothing, ordered to make way on the streets to Muslims, and limited in the number of pilgrims allowed to visit Holy sites. Fatimid Caliph Al-Hakim bi-Amr Allah ordered the destruction of all churches throughout Al-Islam starting with the churches in Jerusalem. The Church of the Holy Sepulchre, revered by most Christians as the site of Christ's crucifixion and burial, was among the places of worship destroyed. A total of about 2,000 churches were distroyed by that order Is that you idea of peaceful Coexistence? In case you don't know the Abbasid took over jerusalem and killed 3,000 people including those hiding in the mosque! About 3 different muslim Kingdom were continously fight and killing each other in an effort to control Jerusalem. The muslim were fighting themselves, who do you think will suffer when two elephant fight? Ofcuz the Christian were the scape goat, they were the one who were the sacrificial. The killings intensified in the 11th century so also did the discrimination, that ignited the crusades. 1 Like |
Re: Christian Syrian Fighter Beheads Isis Prisoner In Revenge by jcross19: 4:09pm On Jun 03, 2015 |
Demmzy15:see you we know how they carry out their atrocities. Islam or mohamMAD teachings brand any man or woman that don't support his or follower ideology as traitor or infidel . Those muslims killed by isil are killed as a traitors ,killed as christians then as infidel. You can't used excuse of isis killing muslims to blanket the truth. We know why. |
Re: Christian Syrian Fighter Beheads Isis Prisoner In Revenge by Ubenedictus(m): 4:39pm On Jun 03, 2015 |
Demmzy15: it had nothing to do with revenge the war was simply seen as the best way of protecting Christians. Incase you don't know the muslims attacked byzantine again in the 11 century, coupled with the distruction of churches and violence to western prilgrims and inhabitant christians. The emperor Alexios was the person who appealed to the pope after the anatolia muslims attacked again. Pope sixtus already hinted at a war whem the holy sepulcher was distroyed. The violence against christian and christian states led to pope Urban preaching that Christian should make a prilgrimage to the holy land. The first groups who were masacred were the peasants who had no war training. When Jerusalem fell, many Jews had made a pact with the muslims against the crusader while many of the Christian population were expelled, that is why there was a high casualities of Jews. |
Re: Christian Syrian Fighter Beheads Isis Prisoner In Revenge by Nobody: 9:02pm On Jun 03, 2015 |
Ubenedictus:You know my brother I read that most of the myths surrounding the crusades were not written by muslims but by western leftists which is a tragedy. They promote Islam at the expense of their own Christian heritage. Ask the Muslim guy here where the great church of St Mary Major of Jerusalem is. Or the Hagia Sophia, or the Church of the Holy Apostles in Constantinople? How did Syria, Iraq, Egypt, Turkey, Palestine and North Africa become Muslim? It's a real tragedy the crusader states did not survive. God bless the Maronites, Copts, Syriacs, Antiochians, Assyrians, Armenians, Melkites and Chaldeans surviving in the Holy Land. 1 Like |
Re: Christian Syrian Fighter Beheads Isis Prisoner In Revenge by Ubenedictus(m): 10:36pm On Jun 03, 2015 |
Papist: yeah dear they suffered seriously and watched as their major church were converted to mosques |
Re: Christian Syrian Fighter Beheads Isis Prisoner In Revenge by Nadheer15: 12:36am On Jun 04, 2015 |
Ubenedictus:Lemme help a brother. Of course it's a liberation. The aggression was started by the Byzantium Empire or should I say it was the fault of the allies of the Byzantium. Prophet Muhammad sent his emissary to the Byzantine governor of "Provincia Arabia" carrying a letter that was meant for the Byzantine emperor Heraclius. While on his way to Bosra, he was executed in the village of Mu'tah by the orders of a Ghasanid official. The Muslims mobilized to fight against the Byzantium governor and his Ghasanid official in the battle of mu'tah, though the Muslims were outnumbered but they put up a good fight. After losing three commanders to the battle, Khalid Ibn Walid took charge. Khalid ibn Al-Walid reported that the fighting was so intense that he used nine swords which broke in the battle. Khalid, seeing that the situation was hopeless, prepared to withdraw. He continued to engage the Byzantines in skirmishes, but avoided pitched battle. There were eight causalities from the Muslim side which were; Zaid bin Haritha, Ja'far ibn Abi Talib, Abdullah bin Rawahah, Masoud bin al-Aswad, Wahab bin Saad, Abbad bin Qais, Amr ibn Saad, Harith bin Nu'man, Saraqah bin Amr, Abu Kulaib bin Amr, Jabir ibn 'Amr, Amer bin Sad. While on Byzantium side is unknown, but exegesis place it a hundreds while others place it at 3000 causalities. The claim of running away is unfounded and probably from a non-reliable source. 1 Like |
Re: Christian Syrian Fighter Beheads Isis Prisoner In Revenge by Nadheer15: 1:53am On Jun 04, 2015 |
Ubenedictus:lmao, so you still want to deny the kindness of Muslims to non-Muslims?!ok o!!! We would compare how you guys dealt with Jews and Muslims. Ubenedictus:Surely, you'll have some Muslims who would go contrary to the rules and regulations, but your above mentions are lies. Proselytize The non-Muslims in the State weren't allowed to preach their religion(even though it's compulsory for them) because for instance, it is not permissible for Christians to go around preaching their faith in an Islamic country even though they believe that it is compulsory for them to do so. The reason is because this directly clashes with Islam that forbids such a thing. One may ask "Why don't you just let the Non-Muslims preach their faith and let the people freely accept or reject? It is their personal choice". Well then using the same logic we could then argue "Why don't you just let the drug dealers sell their drugs and let the people freely accept or reject? It is their personal choice". In the eyes of Islam, the Non-Muslim who preaches his faith is worse than a drug dealer selling drugs. If the drug dealer happens to convince someone to buy his drugs then the most harm that could possibly be inflicted on the person is that his carnal body dies from an overdose. Thus, this is the limit that Islam has imposed on religious freedom. It can't go as far as affecting other people from the Musilm faith. Just as America might not give Hindus the religious freedom to practice 'sati' because it would result in the physical death of someone, Islam will not give the religious freedom to those to preach their false religions because it would result in the spiritual death of someone and that is far worse. worship outside of specific locations I actually don't know what you mean by this, but I know that even the most Islamophobic dude can't the deny the fact that many churches and synagogues were built by Muslims for the benefit of all. Every Christian and Jew had their fair share from the Islamic treasury. limited in areas where they could travel O boy, you sabi lie o. Na only God go helep you o!!! forced to bow before Muslim Mosques and Imams Even devil dey catch cold from this your fable!! Bros calm down jor!! charged to wear specific clothing This was done only during the time of war, the Dhimmis who paid Jizyah were exempted from fighting in the Muslim army. So they were given different clothing so as to differentiate the Non-muslim men who weren't fighting from Muslims(Muslims also wore specific costumes for war).So I don't know how this is a problem. ordered to make way on the streets to Muslims This was done by some ignorant oppressors and has nothing to done with Islam, some attribute this acts to the Fatimid illiterate Caliphs who caused a lot of havoc in the Muslim world. So don't be pissed off!! Limited number of pilgrims I don't know why you're bringing up this point! So you want all Christians and Jews to troop into an Islamic State like say na 'wonderland'?! . This action was for security reasons and this is done today by Saudi Arabia to limit the amount of pilgrims so as to provide adequate security for all. You should even be thanking the Muslims authorities sef!! Ubenedictus:The brother Demmzy15 has already explained how the Holy Sepulcher was protected by a Companion of Prophet Muhammad who is called the second righteous man after Abubakr. Sophronius invited Umar to pray in the rebuilt Church of the Holy Sepulchre. Umar declined, fearing that accepting the invitation might endanger the church's status as a Christian temple, and that Muslims might break the treaty and turn the temple into a mosque. This so-called Caliph was also hated by Muslims, he caused wars between Muslims. He was ultimately overthrown-ed by Seljuk(Muslims of Turkish origin). So his crimes against Christians and Jews was cruel and as you it, Muslims fought against him! Ubenedictus:Of course, Muslims were at peace with the Christian world. Ubenedictus:Ghen ghen! You done come with 'part 2' again oooo!!!!! No such thing happened, in fact it was even the Crusaders that killed people hiding in the Al-Aqsa Mosque. In fighting was against the man you complained about, Caliph Al Hakim. This Al Hakim was a man who claimed divinity for himself, after he destroyed the Holy Selpecher the Crusaders used his actions as excuse to slaughter Muslims and Jews. Ubenedictus:No Christian suffered, stop portraying it as if Muslims who were fighting themselves were killing Christians. In fact Christians had zero roles in the fights, don't misinterpret history please. Ubenedictus:Lies, lies, lies. No such, I quote from http://www.historynet.com/first-crusade-siege-of-jerusalem.htm "Pope Urban II made an appeal for troops at Clermont, France, on November 27, 1095. The pope was responding in part to rumors, mostly false, of Muslim atrocities committed against Christian pilgrims visiting the Holy Land, and he also sought a means of uniting Europe's contentious kings and lords in a common cause." 1 Like |
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