Fulaman198:


No you are right, I don't really mind African cultures borrowing from other African cultures like Ngas borrowing from Hausa and vice versa, or Kanuri borrowing from Hausas and Fulbe and vice versa. But we must do whatever we can to maintain these beautiful cultures. It's better than copying and losing our cultures to white men. Always better to wear a Babban riga over a suit and tie for instance.

That is true. Besides, my brother did marry a fulani woman, who knows, maybe I might marry one myself and then I won't be able to speak. But If I do, I'd prefer my children speak both languages, and share both cultures, I feel it preserves who they are and robbing them out of their mothers culture is repulsive. Then again if you consider hausa culture in Nigeria, the fulbes played an integral part, they are the monarchs, well most of them and I think most of what we consider hausa culture will not be the way it is without the fulbes. If you put all this into account then one has to consider the fact that there are no true hausas or fulbes in Nigeria, and we can only keep guessing, maybe a great ancestor of a person was a hausa or pullo who got intertwined with other cultures and that's what we identify ourselves with. The fulbes are purer since you can identify them but it would explain why there is no exact hausa look in Nigeria but most ethnicities have a general look, heck in my family, no one looks alike, I think that speaks for racial diversity. For now I only know my family tree to my grandfather (lol!) I will try to dig up more but until then, I'm satisfied describing myself as an uncompromising hausa lad.

ZoranderGraeme:


That is true. Besides, my brother did marry a fulani woman, who knows, maybe I might marry one myself and then I won't be able to speak. But If I do, I'd prefer my children speak both languages, and share both cultures, I feel it preserves who they are and robbing them out of their mothers culture is repulsive. Then again if you consider hausa culture in Nigeria, the fulbes played an integral part, they are the monarchs, well most of them and I think most of what we consider hausa culture will not be the way it is without the fulbes. If you put all this into account then one has to consider the fact that there are no true hausas or fulbes in Nigeria, and we can only keep guessing, maybe a great ancestor of a person was a hausa or pullo who got intertwined with other cultures and that's what we identify ourselves with. The fulbes are purer since you can identify them but it would explain why there is no exact hausa look in Nigeria but most ethnicities have a general look, heck in my family, no one looks alike, I think that speaks for racial diversity. For now I only know my family tree to my grandfather (lol!) I will try to dig up more but until then, I'm satisfied describing myself as an uncompromising hausa lad.

You are right everything you said here is true. I think though in Niger you will still find true Hausa people like in Zinder, Maradi, etc.

Fulaman198:


You are right everything you said here is true. I think though in Niger you will still find true Hausa people like in Zinder, Maradi, etc.

Hmm! I'll try to dig up more about them. Like the current president of Niger, do you think he's a "true" hausa? Itd be interesting to meet these people, see how much I'd fit in

ZoranderGraeme:


Hmm! I'll try to dig up more about them. Like the current president of Niger, do you think he's a "true" hausa? Itd be interesting to meet these people, see how much I'd fit in

I don't think Mahamadou Issoufou is a true Hausa. His name doesn't even sound Hausa.

Fulaman198:


I don't think Mahamadou Issoufou is a true Hausa. His name doesn't even sound Hausa.

The name is well...Muhammad Yusuf, maybe due to french influence? I've met a lot of hausa Nigeriens, and honestly their names are a bit different, like Musa can be Muse or Musale, but apart from the name, is there any way of telling? Because every source says he's hausa, or maybe his mother is tuareg?

Fulaman198:
What's up with the Hausa/Fulani, they are not the same ethnic group. Are you sure you are a Pullo? No Pullo would ever put Hausa next to Fulani.

Even you are Tribalistic God save Nigeria

Subom1:
Even you are Tribalistic God save Nigeria

I beg to differ. As a hausa lad, I can assure you that there is nothing tribalistic about his comments.

ZoranderGraeme:


The name is well...Muhammad Yusuf, maybe due to french influence? I've met a lot of hausa Nigeriens, and honestly their names are a bit different, like Musa can be Muse or Musale, but apart from the name, is there any way of telling? Because every source says he's hausa, or maybe his mother is tuareg?

The issue isn't with the Mahamadou which is the same as Mamadou, or Mohammed/Muhammad, the issue is with Issoufou which like you said is a variant of Yusuf/Yousef/Yousuf. Musa in the French speaking world is also Moussa. Most people in Niger can speak Hausa about 85%. So I'm not 100% sure what he is to be honest. That's an excellent question.

Subom1:
Even you are Tribalistic God save Nigeria

There is nothing tribalistic about my comments. It's like calling a Turkish man an Arab. That's wrong. They are two very different distinct groups of people or like calling a Mexican a Brazilian. That's how different things are. I respect and love Hausa people personally. Nothing beats their Kalangu music.

Fulaman198:


There is nothing tribalistic about my comments. It's like calling a Turkish man an Arab. That's wrong. They are two very different distinct groups of people or like calling a Mexican a Brazilian. That's how different things are. I respect and love Hausa people personally. Nothing beats their Kalangu music.

Coolio btw I was just teasing you. I know that you are a sweetie

Subom1:
Coolio btw I was just teasing you. I know that you are a sweetie

Loll thanks

ZoranderGraeme:


The name is well...Muhammad Yusuf, maybe due to french influence? I've met a lot of hausa Nigeriens, and honestly their names are a bit different, like Musa can be Muse or Musale, but apart from the name, is there any way of telling? Because every source says he's hausa, or maybe his mother is tuareg?

BTW what do you think of this song, it highlights a lot of the different ethnic groups in Niger


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JG9ESsPnNpw

Fulaman198:


The issue isn't with the Mahamadou which is the same as Mamadou, or Mohammed/Muhammad, the issue is with Issoufou which like you said is a variant of Yusuf/Yousef/Yousuf. Musa in the French speaking world is also Moussa. Most people in Niger can speak Hausa about 85%. So I'm not 100% sure what he is to be honest. That's an excellent question.

Its been a great exchange with you mate, but I have to logout, permanently, may consult you if or when I create a new account. Thanks.

Muhammadu issoufou is true hausa person from ilela niger republic.. most niger republic president are from zarma and hausa ethnicities..besides 52 percent of niger people are hausa

from issoufou, mainassara,dauda wanke, to mahamane usman they are all ethnic hausa but tandja momodu is djerma

Fulaman198:


I have no issue with them as well Fulamaninka (Wasulu/Wassolou), Hausa-Fulbe, etc. etc. but most of the time when the Fulbe mixes with another group they adopt that groups language. Most Wasulu can't speak Fulfulde/Pulaar they only speak a Mande language. Most Fulbe/Songhai mixes (Gabero) only speak Sonrai/Songhai/Zarma.

That is the disadvantage and it happens when we are surrounded by others and they dominate us in numbers. In Futa Jallon, many Fulanis have mixed with others and you will see common people with Mande last names that consider themselves Fulanis.
We migrate a lot, contrary to other Africans. And if we want to retain the language in every condition, we need to teach it and force the children to speak. That is the only way.

I am a Nigerian, I can only speak for my country and I project that in Nigeria things are not looking good for fulfulde. Maybe not in other countries but Nigerian fulbes have a lot of work to do.

That is only true in the Northwest, fulaman can correct me if I am wrong but Northeastern Nigeria,the language is alive and well.

Omarbah:

That is only true in the Northwest, fulaman can correct me if I am wrong but Northeastern Nigeria,the language is alive and well.

Alive? Barely. Well? Hell no!

kaura5000:
Muhammadu issoufou is true hausa person from ilela niger republic.. most niger republic president are from zarma and hausa ethnicities..besides 52 percent of niger people are hausa

The question is how pure is he? I'm starting to think the nigeriEns I meet everyday aren't Hausas but zarmas, which would explain why they speak another Second language. And I thought the hausa population in Niger would be more than that.

Fulaman198:


BTW what do you think of this song, it highlights a lot of the different ethnic groups in Niger


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JG9ESsPnNpw

ItS truly beautiful. At first I couldn't understand the language they were speaking then I realized... Lol! Their dialect is a little weird, but the song and general message is beautiful.

Mixed with who? Why would you think in the first place he is not hausa... when we all know he is proud hausa

ScreledrusMortm:

The question is how pure is he? I'm starting to think the nigeriEns I meet everyday aren't Hausas but zarmas, which would explain why they speak another Second language. And I thought the hausa population in Niger would be more than that.

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Issoufou is nt zarma, kanuri or any other tribe.. he is pure hausa

ScreledrusMortm:


Alive? Barely. Well? Hell no!

We will let Fulaman be the judge of that.

Fulaman why is it that your people in nigeria like copying hausa culture in nigeria.. from the traditional hausa horse riding eg hawan daushe, . to organize hausa administration system in using hausa titles such as turaki,wambai,waziri etc, hausa architecture eg tubali architecture, hausa food and most importantly hausa language.. heck even danfodio use hausa administration system which is one of the best I have seen..why is it so?

ScreledrusMortm:


Alive? Barely. Well? Hell no!

It's very alive go to Adamawa, Taraba and Gombe states Fulfulde is spoken all over the place.

kaura5000:
Fulaman why is it that your people in nigeria like copying hausa culture in nigeria.. from the traditional hausa horse riding eg hawan daushe, . to organize hausa administration system in using hausa titles such as turaki,wambai,waziri etc, hausa architecture eg tubali architecture, hausa food and most importantly hausa language.. heck even danfodio use hausa administration system which is one of the best I have seen..why is it so?

Horse riding has always been a part of Fulbe culture as it is done everywhere in Fulbe lands (How do you think Fulani came to Nigeria):


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjZDS81OGcw

The Hausa system in Nigeria has been heavily influenced by the Fulbe. Sorry to say that.

kaura5000:
Issoufou is nt zarma, kanuri or any other tribe.. he is pure hausa

Are you 100% sure? it really is hard to say. Where is he from in Niger?

Fulaman the horse riding is also part of hausa culture.. sorry to say the one we have in nigeria is from hausa culture which we practice since before the coming of fulbe to nigeria.. hawan daushe has a history dating back to 14th century it has no fulbe influence

Fulaman198:

Horse riding has always been a part of Fulbe culture as it is done everywhere in Fulbe lands (How do you think Fulani came to Nigeria):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjZDS81OGcw
The Hausa system in Nigeria has been heavily influenced by the Fulbe. Sorry to say that.

Horse riding is part of hausa culture from niger republic to nigeria... we even have important titles for slaves who are in charge of horses known as shamaki.. but nowadays shamaki is in charge of both the cars and horses of the Emirates

Sorry to say fulbe didn't came to nigeria on horseback they came in as pastoralist and settle in nigeria..even danfodio was born in nigeria.. hope you know hausa people main occupation are great merchant's engaging in trading with caravans hence that explains their relationship with horses... the horse is to hausa what the cattle is to fulbe

Queen amina of zazzau on horseback