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Re: Pope Francis To Allow Priests To Forgive Women Who Had Abortions by linusbnn(m): 7:41pm On Sep 01, 2015
azzima:
Soooo Pope Francis is GOD now abi??Catholism is something else. The same person whose sin might be worse than an abortionist is GRANTING AN OK for forgiveness. And I bet some fool is so excited because the Oga has given the order. Mumus! !!

Watch yur words bro,because the so called church yu attend, can you trace the origin of it?. You worship in the faith of one man who tells you wat he thinks. Catholic origin is from the Apostles of christ,and it still continues to the end of time
Re: Pope Francis To Allow Priests To Forgive Women Who Had Abortions by okitikpo: 7:41pm On Sep 01, 2015
HerexG:



Knowledge has taught us that whatever you strongly attach ur believe to would work for u if u so believe it.

Now look at this scenario years back when the late Dora ( peace be upon her soul) was fighting fake drugs, the Onitsha boys would sell us chalks as paracetamol but because we believe in the efficacy of paracetamol we take the chalk unknowingly nd it works.

It is not the Christianity that makes it work it is your believe man, not Jesus nor any goddam western god
I know you sounded like an atheist and probably an atheist, but in all your wisdom and knowledge of this world that you have acquired right from when you are a kid, who created you? Can human being create another human being? Or you also just believed you were existing and humans came to life. Think about the supernatural and also think about how you can retrace your steps to God and come back to him.

If you don't know there are forces in this life think again. Go and believe that the charm you put on will make bullet not penetrate your body and tell us that it is just believe. But today you and I see people putting on charm and it truly prevents bullet from penetrating their body. That is simple proof that supernatural exist, and if supernatural evil exist in such manner then it goes a long way to tell you that there are also true and supernatural spirit from the most high that is holy.
Re: Pope Francis To Allow Priests To Forgive Women Who Had Abortions by o42austino(m): 7:42pm On Sep 01, 2015
chigoizie7:





A reasonable and practical response, thumbs up
Thanks Boss,We need to teach and correct some wrong practice that is going on in the Body of Christ.
Re: Pope Francis To Allow Priests To Forgive Women Who Had Abortions by Seventeen(f): 7:43pm On Sep 01, 2015
Jeromejnr:


Praying for someone coming back to life is different from what you mentioned. But anyway leaving that....

So what of my divine encounters? Meeting God, an angel telling me what to do? grin you will say I was high abi or how do you know I encountered such? cool

I don't wanna go far with dis stuff. Because I know it will just sound stupid to you anyway.
I have bn wondering why u are still bothering with the conversation. smiley
Re: Pope Francis To Allow Priests To Forgive Women Who Had Abortions by chigoizie7(m): 7:44pm On Sep 01, 2015
funkybully:
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That's y abortion is a grave sin




U never disappoint, keep quoting me
Re: Pope Francis To Allow Priests To Forgive Women Who Had Abortions by Amadirobinson: 7:44pm On Sep 01, 2015
For those who doubt the authority of the Pope, hear this: True, the word "Pope" doesn't appear in the Bible, but then neither do the words "Trinity," "Incarnation," "Ascension" and "Bible" appear in the Bible. However, they are referred to by other names. The Bible, for example, is referred to as "Scripture." the Pope, which means head, bishop of the Church, is referred to as the "rock" of the Church, or as the "shepherd" of the Church. Christ used that terminology when He appointed the Apostle Peter the first head bishop of His Church, Sayin: "Blessed art thou, Simon Bar-Jona...Thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church." (Matt. 16:17-19). "There shall be one fold and one shepherd." (John 10:16). "Feed my lambs...feed my sheep." (John 21:15-17). The words "rock" and "shepherd" must apply to Peter, and they must distinguish him as the head Apostle, otherwise Christ's statements are so ambiguous as to be meaningless. Certainly the other Apostles understood that Peter had authority from Christ to lead the Church, for they gave him the presiding place every time they assembled in council (Acts 1:15, 5:1-10), and they placed his name first every time they listed the names of the Apostles (Matt. 10:2, Mark 3:16, Luke 6:13-14, Acts 1:13). Hence, the source of the Pope's authority to rule over the Catholic Church is quite obvious: it was given him by none other than Jesus Christ- by God Himself.

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Re: Pope Francis To Allow Priests To Forgive Women Who Had Abortions by HerexG(m): 7:45pm On Sep 01, 2015
Jeromejnr:


In your own opinion.

A trance that brings solutions to problems? That trance must be lipsrsealed.

That's your intuition working coming in ur trance, this thing can never happen physically.

Now tell me why is religion taught ? Are humans not supposed to assimilate it as a new born who was not taught where his mother breast is.
Re: Pope Francis To Allow Priests To Forgive Women Who Had Abortions by Jeromejnr(m): 7:45pm On Sep 01, 2015
Seventeen:
I have bn wondering why u are still bothering with the conversation. smiley

I was tryna get something out of him. cool
Re: Pope Francis To Allow Priests To Forgive Women Who Had Abortions by coolheed: 7:48pm On Sep 01, 2015
Only God can forgive.

kamez:
I am the way the truth and the life. no one comet unto the father except thru me. that's what Jesus said.


Jesus alone can forgive all sins.. confess ur sins directly to him. no priest can absolve ur sins. only Jesus can..

oya catholics in the house, sentence me to death.
Re: Pope Francis To Allow Priests To Forgive Women Who Had Abortions by Nobody: 7:49pm On Sep 01, 2015
Screw catholicism, who are they to determine who to forgive or not. I am glad I left that religion. All glory and honour belongs to our God.
Re: Pope Francis To Allow Priests To Forgive Women Who Had Abortions by HerexG(m): 7:50pm On Sep 01, 2015
okitikpo:
I know you sounded like an atheist and probably an atheist, but in all your wisdom and knowledge of this world that you have acquired right from when you are a kid, who created you? Can human being create another human being? Or you also just believed you were existing and humans came to life. Think about the supernatural and also think about how you can retrace your steps to God and come back to him.

If you don't know there are forces in this life think again. Go and believe that the charm you put on will make bullet not penetrate your body and tell us that it is just believe. But today you and I see people putting on charm and it truly prevents bullet from penetrating their body. That is simple proof that supernatural exist, and if supernatural evil exist in such manner then it goes a long way to tell you that there are also true and supernatural spirit from the most high that is holy.


So because I don't believe in the white man's religion you call me an atheist and who told you that the African powers you mentioned that prevent gun shot is evil, look at how this westerners has all brainwashed us thinking our own creation is evil.

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Re: Pope Francis To Allow Priests To Forgive Women Who Had Abortions by morbeta(m): 7:50pm On Sep 01, 2015
funkybully:
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Catholic priests also go for confession among themselves.

Even pope goes for confession. Confession makes u conscious of avoiding sins.

Below is Pope francis at confessional


Hehehehehe confess to God or man?
Re: Pope Francis To Allow Priests To Forgive Women Who Had Abortions by o42austino(m): 7:50pm On Sep 01, 2015
kamez:


I thought u Catholics believe in trinity. if the father, son a d holy spirit are one, then Jesus can forgive cos he is GOd the son

I stand to be corrected though
point of correction am not a Catholic am a Christian.

Regarding ur question about Trinity,Trinity does not literally mean One,it means one in Accordance,what is accordance means is that they work for the same purpose that does not mean that they are actually one God,That's y it is separated by saying God the Father,God the Son and God the Holy spirit to show u that they are different
Re: Pope Francis To Allow Priests To Forgive Women Who Had Abortions by Jeromejnr(m): 7:51pm On Sep 01, 2015
HerexG:


That's your intuition working coming in ur trance, this thing can never happen physically.

Now tell me why is religion taught ? Are humans not supposed to assimilate it as a new born who was not taught where his mother breast is.

So how did you come about the intuition? What is the process by which an intuition can displayed in a trance?

It depends on what you mean by religion. Humans were born with the instinct of a higher order of power. But on how to go about connecting with that power, requires training. Just the same way babies are born to walk, but before they do, they have to be trained.

That is why humans go to science for explanations.
Re: Pope Francis To Allow Priests To Forgive Women Who Had Abortions by enitey(f): 7:51pm On Sep 01, 2015
Na God dae forgive o.....Humans can only pray on your behalf
Re: Pope Francis To Allow Priests To Forgive Women Who Had Abortions by Iyke1998(m): 7:52pm On Sep 01, 2015
kamez:
I am the way the truth and the life. no one comet unto the father except thru me. that's what Jesus said.


Jesus alone can forgive all sins.. confess ur sins directly to him. no priest can absolve ur sins. only Jesus can..

oya catholics in the house, sentence me to death.


In Matthew, chapter 9, verse 6, Jesus tells us that He was
given authority on earth to forgive sins. And then Scripture proceeds to tell us, in verse 8, that this authority was given to "men"...plural.

In John 20, verses 21-23, what is the first thing Jesus says to the gathered disciples on the night of His resurrection?
"Jesus said to them, 'Peace be with you. As the Father has
sent me, even so I send you.'" How did the Father send
Jesus? Well, we just saw in Matthew 9 that the Father sent
Jesus with the authority on earth to forgive sins.

Now, Jesus sends out His disciples as the Father has sent Him...so, what authority must Jesus be sending His disciples out with? The authority on earth to forgive sins.

And, just in case they didn't get it, verses 22-23 say this, "And when He had said this, He breathed on them, and said to them, 'Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained.'"

Why would Jesus give the Apostles the power to forgive or
to retain sins if He wasn't expecting folks to confess their
sins to them? And how could they forgive or retain sins if no one was confessing their sins to them?

The Bible tells us to confess our sins to one another. It also tells us that God gave men the authority on Earth to forgive sins. Jesus sends out His disciples with the authority on earth to forgive sins. When Catholics confess our sins to a priest, we are simply following the plan laid down by Jesus Christ. He forgives sins through the priest...it is God's power, but He exercises that power through the ministry of the priest.

God bless you!!

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Re: Pope Francis To Allow Priests To Forgive Women Who Had Abortions by HerexG(m): 7:52pm On Sep 01, 2015
linusbnn:


Watch yur words bro,because the so called church yu attend, can you trace the origin of it?. You worship in the faith of one man who tells you wat he thinks. Catholic origin is from the Apostles of christ,and it still continues to the end of time

You know next to nothing about that religion
Re: Pope Francis To Allow Priests To Forgive Women Who Had Abortions by Iyke1998(m): 7:53pm On Sep 01, 2015
missKiffy:
Catholics why do you seek forgiveness from a priest instead of from God

kamez:
I am the way the truth and the life. no one comet unto the father except thru me. that's what Jesus said.


Jesus alone can forgive all sins.. confess ur sins directly to him. no priest can absolve ur sins. only Jesus can..

oya catholics in the house, sentence me to death.


In Matthew, chapter 9, verse 6, Jesus tells us that He was
given authority on earth to forgive sins. And then Scripture proceeds to tell us, in verse 8, that this authority was given to "men"...plural.

In John 20, verses 21-23, what is the first thing Jesus says to the gathered disciples on the night of His resurrection?
"Jesus said to them, 'Peace be with you. As the Father has
sent me, even so I send you.'" How did the Father send
Jesus? Well, we just saw in Matthew 9 that the Father sent
Jesus with the authority on earth to forgive sins.

Now, Jesus sends out His disciples as the Father has sent Him...so, what authority must Jesus be sending His disciples out with? The authority on earth to forgive sins.

And, just in case they didn't get it, verses 22-23 say this, "And when He had said this, He breathed on them, and said to them, 'Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained.'"

Why would Jesus give the Apostles the power to forgive or
to retain sins if He wasn't expecting folks to confess their
sins to them? And how could they forgive or retain sins if no one was confessing their sins to them?

The Bible tells us to confess our sins to one another. It also tells us that God gave men the authority on Earth to forgive sins. Jesus sends out His disciples with the authority on earth to forgive sins. When Catholics confess our sins to a priest, we are simply following the plan laid down by Jesus Christ. He forgives sins through the priest...it is God's power, but He exercises that power through the ministry of the priest.

God bless you!!

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Re: Pope Francis To Allow Priests To Forgive Women Who Had Abortions by freecocoa(f): 7:54pm On Sep 01, 2015
So before some sins can be forgiven and some can't? See confusion and delusion.

Freedom never felt better.

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Re: Pope Francis To Allow Priests To Forgive Women Who Had Abortions by kenoz(m): 7:55pm On Sep 01, 2015
undecided
Re: Pope Francis To Allow Priests To Forgive Women Who Had Abortions by Amadirobinson: 7:57pm On Sep 01, 2015
missKiffy:
Catholics why do you seek forgiveness from a priest instead of from God
Re: Pope Francis To Allow Priests To Forgive Women Who Had Abortions by HerexG(m): 7:57pm On Sep 01, 2015
Jeromejnr:


So how did you come about the intuition? What is the process by which an intuition can displayed in a trance?

It depends on what you mean by religion. Humans were born with the instinct of a higher order of power. But on how to go about connecting with that power, requires training. Just the same way babies are born to walk, but before they do, they have to be trained.

That is why humans go to science for explanations.



Its simple your intuition got revealed in your trance "The encounter with an angel" as u said.

A child is never taught how to walk but definitely walk someday but if you were not taught about this Christian belief you will never know a jack about it and yet you will live your normal life as a natural being

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Re: Pope Francis To Allow Priests To Forgive Women Who Had Abortions by okitikpo: 7:58pm On Sep 01, 2015
HerexG:



So because I don't believe in the white man's religion you call me an atheist and who told you that the African powers you mentioned that prevent gun shot is evil, look at how this westerners has all brainwashed us thinking our own creation is evil.
sorry for referring to you as an atheist, just that you sounded like one. Ok tell us, what do you worship?
Re: Pope Francis To Allow Priests To Forgive Women Who Had Abortions by HerexG(m): 8:04pm On Sep 01, 2015
okitikpo:
sorry for referring to you as an atheist, just that you sounded like one. Ok tell us, what do you worship?


I'm a lover and respecter of nature and support the Black African movement
Re: Pope Francis To Allow Priests To Forgive Women Who Had Abortions by Jeromejnr(m): 8:05pm On Sep 01, 2015
HerexG:




Its simple your intuition got revealed in your trance "The encounter with an angel" as u said.

A child is never taught how to walk but definitely walk someday but if you were not taught about this Christian belief you will never know a jack about it and yet you will live your normal life as a natural being



First of all for someone to be in a trance, he has to be in a dazed or hypnotic state. I was in neither.

Just as a child will walk someday, most humans if given a chance to live old will one day on their deathbed consider the possibility of a higher power and if they've been wrong all along. Because at the end of the day that's where all of life is heading to. The reason why most don't consider it now, is because they are still full of life and they busy themselves with so many things.
Re: Pope Francis To Allow Priests To Forgive Women Who Had Abortions by okitikpo: 8:11pm On Sep 01, 2015
HerexG:


You know next to nothing about that religion
you told someone that he knows nothing about religion and I also believe that it is also applicable to you. But truth is that I rather still follow the religion of ancient history than that created by modern men. We know how modern men have derailed the world. The Bible that both of us read and believe in was never created nor written in modern days. What I know is that modernity has tried to change the religion of old and which we know it is not supposed to be so, cos God does not change neither is religion supposed to be changed to suit our ways of life. There are things that we should rather leave they way they are rather than trying to modify them with our now and more sinful ways; and one of those things is religion
Re: Pope Francis To Allow Priests To Forgive Women Who Had Abortions by Khd95(m): 8:12pm On Sep 01, 2015
Bt when has d pope bcome god dat he chooses who is 2 b forgiven
Re: Pope Francis To Allow Priests To Forgive Women Who Had Abortions by HerexG(m): 8:16pm On Sep 01, 2015
Jeromejnr:


First of all for someone to be in a trance, he has to be in a dazed or hypnotic state. I was in neither.

Just as a child will walk someday, most humans if given a chance to live old will one day on their deathbed consider the possibility of a higher power and if they've been wrong all along. Because at the end of the day that's where all of life is heading to. The reason why most don't consider it now, is because they are still full of life and they busy themselves with so many things.


So you saw the angel physically ? you could have taken a selfie with the Angel so the world will know how powerful and truthful your western god is.


Let's face facts this religion is to curtail and tame the human mind
Re: Pope Francis To Allow Priests To Forgive Women Who Had Abortions by okitikpo: 8:16pm On Sep 01, 2015
HerexG:



I'm a lover and respecter of nature and support the Black African movement
and you think or believe it is the best right?
Re: Pope Francis To Allow Priests To Forgive Women Who Had Abortions by Smooyis(m): 8:17pm On Sep 01, 2015
gokay11:
Na only God can forgive
He can also forgive through His servants if they are genuinely convinced by the help of Holy spirit that you one has confessed and repented of one's sins.
Re: Pope Francis To Allow Priests To Forgive Women Who Had Abortions by eepa: 8:22pm On Sep 01, 2015
Look at what Jesus says in verse 21 of John's gospel Chapter 20, “As the Father has sent me, even so I send you.” What did God the Father send the Son to do? Among other things, He was sent not to judge but to save the world (John 12:47), He was sent to forgive sins (Mark 2:10), and to bring light to a dark world (John 12:35). So now does Jesus send His twelve (Judas will be replaced in Acts 1:42) to carry on His mission of reconciliation. How are the twelve to perform this mission? Easy, by either forgiving or retaining sins is how. Question then, how are the twelve to decide whether or not to forgive or retain any sins, unless they are told what those sins are? Just like the Priest, who received the sinner at the door of the Tabernacle in Leviticus, had to hear the confession first, so to do the twelve have to hear the confession of the sinner prior to either forgiving or retaining their sin.
Re: Pope Francis To Allow Priests To Forgive Women Who Had Abortions by eepa: 8:22pm On Sep 01, 2015
Look at what Jesus says in verse 21 of John's gospel Chapter 20, “As the Father has sent me, even so I send you.” What did God the Father send the Son to do? Among other things, He was sent not to judge but to save the world (John 12:47), He was sent to forgive sins (Mark 2:10), and to bring light to a dark world (John 12:35). So now does Jesus send His twelve (Judas will be replaced in Acts 1:42) to carry on His mission of reconciliation. How are the twelve to perform this mission? Easy, by either forgiving or retaining sins is how. Question then, how are the twelve to decide whether or not to forgive or retain any sins, unless they are told what those sins are? Just like the Priest, who received the sinner at the door of the Tabernacle in Leviticus, had to hear the confession first, so to do the twelve have to hear the confession of the sinner prior to either forgiving or retaining their sin.

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