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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by IlekeHD: 1:54am On Oct 26, 2015
This is a clearer map of Nigeria.

Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by IlekeHD: 2:00am On Oct 26, 2015
CabbieAC:



Lol Yorubas aren't the only ones using this platform remember. Me personally I give suggestions on the facebook pages of Southwest Governors.We never know how far our opinions go.At the emboldened, dem tell you say ajimobi or amosun dey nairaland? grin grin cheesy

Hmm I think you're getting me wrong.

NL can facilitate communications between YIN and YID (Yorubas in Nigeria and Yorubas in Diaspora). We won't be using NL to communicate with political leaders. Before we can confront them with ideas, YIN/YID ought to collaborate on ideas, come up with new ideas and THEN present the ideas. We need to understand our limitations and our potentials.

How we use this communicative tool (NL) is our prerogative. Are we going to misuse it, not use it or use it to its potential?

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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 2:03am On Oct 26, 2015
IlekeHD:


Hmm I think you're getting me wrong.

NL can facilitate communications between YIN and YID (Yorubas in Nigeria and Yorubas in Diaspora). We won't be using NL to communicate with political leaders. Before we can confront them with ideas, YIN/YID ought to collaborate on ideas, come up with new ideas and THEN present the ideas. We need to understand our limitations and our potentials.

how we use this communicative tool is our prerogative.





Yeah we can come up with ideas but how do we put it into effect?Just typing on Nairaland is obviously not the way to go.We need to be more direct and i have no idea how we can go about that
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by scholes0(m): 2:06am On Oct 26, 2015
IlekeHD:
This is a clearer map of Nigeria.

it is wrong.
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by tpiah11: 2:07am On Oct 26, 2015
IlekeHD:
This is a clearer map of Nigeria.


Surely you're not dumping your former handle like shymexx.

Switching sides?
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by IlekeHD: 2:08am On Oct 26, 2015
CabbieAC:

Yeah we can come up with ideas but how do we put it into effect?Just typing on Nairaland is obviously not the way to go.We need to be more direct and i have no idea how we can go about that

This is my point.

1. We need to round up as many Yorubas who are invested in Yoruba interest.

2. Jointly contact the appropriate companies and persons

3. Present ideas

4. Task our governors to enforce the implementation of REALISTIC ideas.


I am tired of talking. I am itching to do something, I just don't know the ins and outs of Nigeria to do so.

I know many Yorubas in America who are ready, but they don't trust sources at home.

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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 2:09am On Oct 26, 2015
CabbieAC:



There isn't much the Yorubas in the diaspora can't do other than give suggestions.

I disagree on this pov.Diaspora folks are one of the most important groups for many developing countries outside of remittances as they usually use money earn outside to build businesses,social infrastructure etc.They also bring valuable knowledge and skills.Its up for each individual Yoruba to determine which cause they are most passionate about whether it be in terms of education,health etc and link with like minded folks to implement small scale projects.The reality is government cannot do it all alone...private individuals must also invest and that's where diaspora Yorubas can help.Yes naija has a lot of corruption but do we conclude all the folks in naija are corrupt? Can't a group of Yorubas who care about education...not raise funds to repair a school in their community or even build one? etc.Giving suggestions only amount to no work being done and makes DAWN implementing its blueprint more challenging.Let Yorubas who care for action engage DAWN to determine areas of most need or they themselves can decide based on their respective communities or passion.
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by IlekeHD: 2:09am On Oct 26, 2015
scholes0:


it is wrong.

How so?
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by IlekeHD: 2:11am On Oct 26, 2015
quimicababes:


I disagree on this pov.Diaspora folks are one of the most important groups for many developing countries outside of remittances as they usually use money earn outside to build businesses,social infrastructure etc.They also bring valuable knowledge and skills.Its up for each individual Yoruba to determine which cause they are most passionate about whether it be in terms of education,health etc and link with like minded folks to implement small scale projects.The reality is government cannot do it all alone...private individuals must also invest and that's where diaspora Yorubas can help.Yes naija has a lot of corruption but do we conclude all the folks in naija are corrupt? Can't a group of Yorubas who care about education...not raise funds to repair a school in their community or even build one? etc.Giving suggestions only amount to no work being done and makes DAWN implementing its blueprint more challenging.Let Yorubas who care for action engage DAWN to determine areas of most need or they themselves can decide based on their respective communities or passion.

You're both right.

We need to give suggestions. Then we need to implement them.

We have the suggestions, now we need to implement them. Question is, how?

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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by IlekeHD: 2:13am On Oct 26, 2015
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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 2:15am On Oct 26, 2015
IlekeHD:


This is my point.

1. We need to round up as many Yorubas who are invested in Yoruba interest.

2. Jointly contact the appropriate companies and persons

3. Present ideas

4. Task our governors to enforce the implementation of REALISTIC ideas.


I am tired of talking. I am itching to do something, I just don't know the ins and outs of Nigeria to do so.

I know many Yorubas in America who are ready, but they don't trust sources at home.



quimicababes:

I disagree on this pov.Diaspora folks are one of the most important groups for many developing countries outside of remittances as they usually use money earn outside to build businesses,social infrastructure etc.They also bring valuable knowledge and skills.Its up for each individual Yoruba to determine which cause they are most passionate about whether it be in terms of education,health etc and link with like minded folks to implement small scale projects.The reality is government cannot do it all alone...private individuals must also invest and that's where diaspora Yorubas can help.Yes naija has a lot of corruption but do we conclude all the folks in naija are corrupt? Can't a group of Yorubas who care about education...not raise funds to repair a school in their community or even build one? etc.Giving suggestions only amount to no work being done and makes DAWN implementing its blueprint more challenging.Let Yorubas who care for action engage DAWN to determine areas of most need or they themselves can decide based on their respective communities or passion.


The emboldened is the issue here, Can the yorubas in the diaspora send money home to implement these ideas?


Is it safe?

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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by IlekeHD: 2:20am On Oct 26, 2015
CabbieAC:

The emboldened is the issue here, Can the yorubas in the diaspora send money home to implement these ideas?

Is it safe?

No.

It's not safe. I won't send money until I know it is safe......which brings us back to my original question; HOW?

1. How can we make it safe?

2. How can we create an association that is safe?

3. How can we make sure the Yorubas in Nigeria we send our money are for the Yoruba interest?


If given the task to contact the right people for tech advances, I know who to contact. But after I contact them, what happens?

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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 2:21am On Oct 26, 2015
IlekeHD:


No.

It's not safe. I won't send money until I know it is safe......which brings us back to my original question; HOW?

1. How can we make it safe?

2. How can we create an association that is safe?

3. How can we make sure the Yorubas in Nigeria we send our money are for the Yoruba interest?


If given the task to contact the right people for tech advances, I know who to contact. But after I contact them, what happens?


Thank you! this is the point i'm trying to make.The yorubas in the diaspora can only make things work when they come home.I won't advise anyone to send money to Nigeria all in the name of development
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by tpiah11: 2:22am On Oct 26, 2015
IlekeHD:

This is my point.
1. We need to round up as many Yorubas who are invested in Yoruba interest.





Like I said, God will deliver your victims.
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by tpiah11: 2:23am On Oct 26, 2015
IlekeHD:

No.
It's not safe. I won't send money until I know it is safe......which brings us back to my original question; HOW?
1. How can we make it safe?
2. How can we create an association that is safe?
3. How can we make sure the Yorubas in Nigeria we send our money are for the Yoruba interest?
If given the task to contact the right people for tech advances, I know who to contact. But after I contact them, what happens?


God will deliver them.
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by IlekeHD: 2:25am On Oct 26, 2015
CabbieAC:



Thank you! this is the point i'm trying to make.The yorubas in the diaspora can only make things work when they come home.I won't advise anyone to send money to Nigeria all in the name of development

Let me be honest with you. I probably will never live in Nigeria in the future nor would I stay in Nigeria for more than a month, until Nigeria is ready for me.

It doesn't mean that I shouldn't help from a reasonable environment. I can come home multiple times a year to HELP.

So how can Yorubas that don't want to live in Nigeria overcome this issue and HELP from a distance?
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by IlekeHD: 2:26am On Oct 26, 2015
IlekeHD:


Let me be honest with you. I probably will never live in Nigeria in the future nor would I stay in Nigeria for more than a month, until Nigeria is ready for me.

It doesn't mean that I shouldn't help from a reasonable environment. I can come home multiple times a year to HELP.

So how can Yorubas that don't want to live in Nigeria overcome this issue and HELP from a distance?

Don't answer my questions UNTIL we're ready to talk about HOW.
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by IlekeHD: 2:29am On Oct 26, 2015
If you ask me to help create a Yoruba organization website, I can.

If you ask me to design/develop an app for our organization, I can.

etc

All for free.

Just let's do something.

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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 2:30am On Oct 26, 2015
IlekeHD:


Let me be honest with you. I probably will never live in Nigeria in the future nor would I stay in Nigeria for more than a month, until Nigeria is ready for me.

It doesn't mean that I shouldn't help from a reasonable environment. I can come home multiple times a year to HELP.

So how can Yorubas that don't want to live in Nigeria overcome this issue and HELP from a distance?



Yorubas in the diaspora can come together to form organizations that will take care of these issues but who will handle these projects when they leave the country. Working in collaboration with DAWN will go a long way,that's the safest way i.m.o

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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by IlekeHD: 2:31am On Oct 26, 2015
CabbieAC:

Yorubas in the diaspora can come together to form organizations that will take care of these issues but who will handle these projects when they leave the country. Working in collaboration with DAWN will go a long way,that's the safest way i.m.o

Have you ever been in contact with them?

Do you know the ins/outs of the organization?
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 2:32am On Oct 26, 2015
IlekeHD:


Have you ever been in contact with them?

Do you know the ins/outs of the organization?


Not really other than communicating with them on facebook.Lol i'm a resident on their page and they respond to questions
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by IlekeHD: 2:35am On Oct 26, 2015
Sorry, but I'm going to ask you to post their links again
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 2:37am On Oct 26, 2015
IlekeHD:
Sorry, but I'm going to ask you to post their links again



https://www.facebook.com/dawncommission
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by IlekeHD: 2:41am On Oct 26, 2015
CabbieAC:

https://www.facebook.com/dawncommission

Thanks..... going through it.

I'll post my feedback tomorow.
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by IlekeHD: 2:45am On Oct 26, 2015
One thing I quickly noticed is their lack of transparency.

They're posting about Orisha/historical events. I'm expecting current events and future projects.

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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 2:51am On Oct 26, 2015
IlekeHD:
One thing I quickly noticed is their lack of transparency.

They're posting about Orisha/historical events. I'm expecting current events and future projects.


You need to go deeper into their page,they post about development and future projects a lot.I love how they educate us on random stuff,that's one of the reasons why i encourage people here to post about yoruba success stories and other random stuff that has to do with yorubaland.I got that inspiration from them,It gives the thread some variety and adds spice to it which is good

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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 2:52am On Oct 26, 2015
CabbieAC:






The emboldened is the issue here, Can the yorubas in the diaspora send money home to implement these ideas?


Is it safe?

Are you saying there are no trustworthy Yorubas back home? I understand money being stolen instead of it being put to use but that's not unique to Naija only.It has an African-American lady who is an Ifa/Orisha devotee who run an annual empowerment retreat with several workshops on business,education and studying abroad for isese folks especially the kids as non isese yorubas were telling the kids they need to convert to get jobs.She also does an eyeforafrica program where she source cheap glasses in the USA and distribute free of charge to isese villagers.Wasn't she able to meet trustworthy and genuine yorubas and provide her little quota towards helping them?My point is let each yoruba person decide which areas they want to assist in and find like-minded and trustworthy yorubas to work with.Many times those stuff take place in the form of NGOs,Co-operatives etc....you don't want to set up one...find a legit one to work with.Get like minded and trustworthy yorubas to invest with etc...link up with dawn etc.This very conversation y'all are having...get to know each other outside nairaland and see what projects y'all can work on together.I am not isese but I personally think diaspora isese folks need to do more to help and empower isese folks in yorubaland beyond just cultural exchange.Let every person find their passion and try to make an impact in terms of giving back beyond biological family.

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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by IlekeHD: 2:58am On Oct 26, 2015
CabbieAC:



Lol you need to go deeper into their page,they post about development and future projects a lot.I love how they educate us on random stuff,that's one of the reasons why i encourage people here to post about yoruba success stories and other random stuff that has to do with yorubaland.I got that inspiration from them,It gives the thread some variety and adds spice to it which is good

I like how the idea in your head turned to 40+ pages of fruitful responses.

I so hope the ideas on our keyboard yields positive development in the West.

Sugbon, hope is flimsy. It's just a flicker of ideas. Our actions are the gunpowder that makes it explode.

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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by IlekeHD: 3:02am On Oct 26, 2015
I'm going to create some posters sometimes.......

I like visualizations. I like pretty things. They pass across ideas faster than texts.

Some may think it's unnecessary, but really, it's important.

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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 3:03am On Oct 26, 2015
quimicababes:


Are you saying there are no trustworthy Yorubas back home? I understand money being stolen instead of it being put to use but that's not unique to Naija only.It has an African-American lady who is an Ifa/Orisha devotee who run an annual empowerment retreat with several workshops on business,education and studying abroad for isese folks especially the kids as non isese yorubas were telling the kids they need to convert to get jobs.She also does an eyeforafrica program where she source cheap glasses in the USA and distribute free of charge to isese villagers.Wasn't she able to meet trustworthy and genuine yorubas and provide her little quota towards helping them?My point is let each yoruba person decide which areas they want to assist in and find like-minded and trustworthy yorubas to work with.Many times those stuff take place in the form of NGOs,Co-operatives etc....you don't want to set up one...find a legit one to work with.Get like minded and trustworthy yorubas to invest with etc...link up with dawn etc.This very conversation y'all are having...get to know each other outside nairaland and see what projects y'all can work on together.I am not isese but I personally think diaspora isese folks need to do more to help and empower isese folks in yorubaland beyond just cultural exchange.Let every person find their passion and try to make an impact in terms of giving back beyond biological family.



Great points man.Thanks for the contributions
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 3:07am On Oct 26, 2015
CabbieAC:




Great points man.Thanks for the contributions

I am female btw grin
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by tpiah11: 3:08am On Oct 26, 2015
SirShymexx:


So, you think he's Igbo - don't you? - hysterical grin

Everyone knows the guy's dad is Yoruba. And not all Yorubas have Yoruba last names.


let him be.

having Nigerian ancestry does not mean someone has to be associated with Nigeria.

stop trying to use him to gain inroads into his dad's place of origin.

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