macof:



Even the NigerMan he has been calling and probably sending PMs isn't Bini but Esan. .

Bigotry has fried the guy's brain

rexbuton:

What tha fUkk??
Who was the guy that told you that benin people in nearby communities cannot understand themselves?? Either you or that guy is lying to us! Any edo or esan man that can speak his language must understand bini or esan even though he may not be able to speak the other language fluently- and it also depends on his language aptitude or understanding of his own dialect. And HOW CAN OREDO SPEAK ESAN Oredo is not a dialect, it is the main benin location proper, the city centre. The language spoken is still the edo language or igodomiogodo as we prefer to call it. I hope you've really been to benin or you're not just pulling my legs! Everything you say about benin is FALSE!
As for ikwerre, ogba, ahoada, oguta and other areas that claim descent from benin, since they say that's where they are from , who are we to dispute? However benin history has the records of their migrations (though not all of them), and you should look at their ceremonial rites and traditional attire and travel to traditional festivals in benin, if there is much similarity then they may know their origins afterall! The edo could not have moved in and forced everyone to start dressing like them and use similar words with them.
The ika and anioma stuff is a non issue, I've trashed it in one of my threads before now.. Kindly check my profile

pazienza:
Bia, what is it with known Yoruba tribalists hounding Bigfrancis and blackmailing him with the MOD ish?

Bigfrancis is right, it is a known fact that Oba is of Edo origin and it's existence in Yoruba today is a testament to Bini influence on Yorubas.

Neobulletzz:
but king in urhobo is called Ovie not Oba

Goodboiy:


don't Tribalise everything. wen it comes to Ethnicity nobody wants to loose his ground because of friendship. meanwhile I have added Ego to the list .. Urhobo may have borrowed That word from Igbo. just like if Yoruba say Tosin, Itsekiri will say Tosan.

ayobase:



Olori in Yoruba means Queen.

nice thread.

pazienza:
Bia, what is it with known Yoruba tribalists hounding Bigfrancis and blackmailing him with the MOD ish?

Bigfrancis is right, it is a known fact that Oba is of Edo origin and it's existence in Yoruba today is a testament to Bini influence on Yorubas.

AyakaDunukofia:

I heard Uhrobos/Isoko call in-law 'ogom" which is the same in Igbo?
Pig as 'Ezi' in both languages?

bokohalal:

The things we see here are sometimes unimaginable. As a Bini, I can understand the feeling of importance by some people to put us down and deny anything to us.
To the uninitiated, the only difference I know between Esan and Bini is the IGBABONELIMHIN masquerade!

rexbuton:


What tha fUkk??
Who was the guy that told you that benin people in nearby communities cannot understand themselves?? Either you or that guy is lying to us! Any edo or esan man that can speak his language must understand bini or esan even though he may not be able to speak the other language fluently- and it also depends on his language aptitude or understanding of his own dialect. And HOW CAN OREDO SPEAK ESAN Oredo is not a dialect, it is the main benin location proper, the city centre. The language spoken is still the edo language or igodomiogodo as we prefer to call it. I hope you've really been to benin or you're not just pulling my legs! Everything you say about benin is FALSE!

As for ikwerre, ogba, ahoada, oguta and other areas that claim descent from benin, since they say that's where they are from , who are we to dispute? However benin history has the records of their migrations (though not all of them), and you should look at their ceremonial rites and traditional attire and travel to traditional festivals in benin, if there is much similarity then they may know their origins afterall! The edo could not have moved in and forced everyone to start dressing like them and use similar words with them.

The ika and anioma stuff is a non issue, I've trashed it in one of my threads before now.. Kindly check my profile

Ilaje44:

Tosin would be TOSEN in Isekiri.

Ilaje44:
Tosin would be TOSEN in Isekiri.

IGBOPRINCE:
thanx for the enlightenment..I ve not being to their remote villages in edo state, I only stays at lagos street back then in benin city though.

In regards to ikwerres, ogba, ikas, this re one big tribes still being confused about their heritage and the adoption of igbos languages. Some will tell you categorically they re igbos while some will tell you they re benin. But where the problems lies is because of their languages which re more similar to that of ndigbos.
Though I am not denying the influence of benin empire by then but the evidence which I relied on is that, ndigbos was there and still there before the coming of benin people and that s why the language of ndigbo still has more advantage that dealt with any incoming languages from benin interactions except the ikas and ukwuani which have some forms of igbos and benin languages in their dialects.

Anyway let me check your profile now to get your thread and read.


Knowledge is power.

macof:



Even the NigerMan1 he has been calling and probably sending PMs isn't Bini but Esan. .

Bigotry has fried the guy's brain

bokohalal:

The things we see here are sometimes unimaginable. As a Bini, I can understand the feeling of importance by some people to put us down and deny anything to us.
To the uninitiated, the only difference I know between Esan and Bini is the IGBABONELIMHIN masquerade!

Goodboiy:


There re so many Igbo word used in My language with time I will update this thread. ..

slimfresh:
[q
uote author=fratermathy post=39759682]Lovely thread! Make I ..go ready my ekpeti first.
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Ekpeti don set.

Although I wont restrict mine to Igbo/Yoruba


a.isikuru English: school
b.igalasi English: glass
c.akiteti English: architect
d.itaba Portuguese: tabaco (Tobacco)
e.Osete Portuguese: serta (Plate)
f.utujoro Portuguese: tesoura (Scissors)
g.uririen Portuguese: unie (an ingredient for pepper soup)
h.oleso Portuguese leso (handkerchief)
i.inama Hausa: nama (cow meat)
j.ibo English: ball
k.itomatosi Portuguese: tomato
l.ikpekere Yoruba: kpekere (plantain chips)
m.ejime Igbo: ejime (twin)
n.osusu Yoruba: osusu (monthly savings)
o. ikeki English: cake
p.imidaka Portuguese: mandioca (Cassava)
q.ugu Igbo: ugu (vegetable)
r.akpere Yoruba: akpere (basket)
s. imanu Hausa: malu (cow)
t. ifiniya Portuguese: farinha (tapioca)
u.isabatu Portuguese: sapato (sandals)
v.igho Portuguese: igos/iguou (money)
w.agbero Yoruba: agbero (tout)
x.akara Yoruba: akara (beans cake)
y.iyasere Edo: iyasere (prime minister)
z.isuya Hausa: suyah (roasted beef)
Alphabet don finish o Goodboiy. Freemanan permission to carry on?
i. akpu Igbo: akpu (Fufu)
ii.ibanki English: bank
iii.ikomputa English: computer
iv.ibroda English: brother
v.oro Portuguese: ouro (gold)

That's all I have for now.
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This post is subject to further edits if more ideas come . Lalasticlala, Seun, Dominique, Obinoscopy and Oam4j, please take note and beware of my sons, Goodboiy, Freemanan, Alkarulezz, Freeemanan, Scholes0 and Onuwaje, emo zighizighi!

yorubas dont pronounce like that joor.....which o e be 'igalsi' 'ibanki'? Infact all you wrote about youruba words were wrongly spelt and going by d spelling wrongly pronounced.

IlekeHD:


From another igbo bigot coming to cheerlead his fellow ignorant. Lemme guess, your source is bigfrancis

Goodboiy:


Olori in Urhobo means head of a place /Community.. very similar to Youruba which mean thesamr

IGBOPRINCE:
thanx for the enlightenment..I ve not being to their remote villages in edo state, I only stays at lagos street back then in benin city though.

In regards to ikwerres, ogba, ikas, this re one big tribes still being confused about their heritage and the adoption of igbos languages. Some will tell you categorically they re igbos while some will tell you they re benin. But where the problems lies is because of their languages which re more similar to that of ndigbos.
Though I am not denying the influence of benin empire by then but the evidence which I relied on is that, ndigbos was there and still there before the coming of benin people and that s why the language of ndigbo still has more advantage that dealt with any incoming languages from benin interactions except the ikas and ukwuani which have some forms of igbos and benin languages in their dialects.

Anyway let me check your profile now to get your thread and read.


Knowledge is power.

bigfrancis21:


My being a mod has nothing to do with the discourse at hand. My being a moderator does not elevate me to any higher status than you already are. Neither does it mean that I cannot come in to correct an impression where necessary. We are all here to learn and I am free to debate freely with anybody on this forum so far as the debate is conducted within the rules of this forum, which I have always done. So please, drop all that moderator talk.

Anyway, I am not Bini or Edo. Let NigerMan1 himself take the debate from here.

IlekeHD:


From another igbo bigot coming to cheerlead his fellow ignorant. Lemme guess, your source is bigfrancis

pazienza:


Ileke, you are in no position to accuse someone of being a tribalist.

Oba being an Edo word is an old argument that will rage on forever between Yorubas and Edos.

But to a neutral like an Igbo, it's not that hard to see that Oba is an Edo word. Though I don't expect Yorubas to accept that.

Goodboiy:


Yes king Is called Ovie. but in Urhobo we Use OBA.. like Oba'risi meaning king of the word.. that were I picked the word from.. mind you am Urhobo so nothing I don't know

bigfrancis21:


I am not misinforming anybody. I have evidence for what I had said:



http://ihuanedo.ning.com/forum/topics/why-yoruba-never-had-an-empire-but-civilized-by-benin?groupUrl=healtheducation&x=1&groupId=2971192%3AGroup%3A14663&id=2971192%3ATopic%3A124153&page=1

I am not derailing the thread and, just like others, only corrected some of the words the wordlist the op provided. Others, Urhobos I believe, have corrected him on some of the words he listed as Urhobo to not be Urhobo words but gave their actual Urhobo words.

Anyway, I have made my point.

IlekeHD:


LMAO.....anyone that takes this igbo tout serious is on a long thing.

Show us a verifiable your sources. Simple.

I posted this article to Edo net sometime ago. I have reworked and added a few things in view of the ongoing debate over prostitution by Edo girls.

The expanded form of the word Ogiso is Ogie-iso, which when tranlated in Edo means, king of the sky. The word Ogie means king, Iso means Sky or Heaven. Thus the Edo people believe that thieir kings come from the sky or more appropiately, from Heaven or from God. It is belief which explains why the Oba or king is the embodiment of the culture of the Edo people. The story of the people of the people cannot be written without reference to their king or Oba. Indeed, everything revolves round the Oba. For example, a matured man would be appropriately referred to as Okpioba(meaning Oba´s man)Conversely, a woman would be referred to as Okhuoba (meaning Oba´s woman).

The salutions or greetings of the Edo people have not excluded their Oba. Thus for "Good morning" Edo man or woman would say Oba Owie(meaning King of the Morning) "For good afternoon" they would say Oba Avan (King of the afternoon) and for "good evening" they would say Oba ota (meaning king of the Evening). The origin of the word Oba has been a subject of controversy.

The early kings in Benin were known as Ogisos. The succcesors were the Obas which began with Oba Eweka[/b]1. Some writers claim that the word Oba is a yoruba word which means King. [b]Others insist that the word must have been derived from the Benin word O baa meaning "it is difficult hard or dificult or probably from an abbreviation of the original name of the first Ogiso Obagodo(Oba godo: Oba-King godo. high; thus High king). The long history of Edo people is reflected in their uniquely rich cultural heritage.

Goodboiy:


Olori in Urhobo means head of a place /Community.. very similar to Youruba which mean thesamr

Agbaletu:

Just leave him...he knows nothing about us.

Ihuomadinihu:
Interesting. I was informed that some Urhobos have Igbo ancestry.

bigfrancis21:


Since you admit that Ovie is the official word for king in Urhobo, Oba then should not be on your list. From the phrase you gave, the Urhobos use Oba risi as a phrase but rarely use Oba to refer to their king right?

Goodboiy:


Thanks for Moving this thread to the front page.

but lemme make some correction.. The word I used re used in Urhobo, The people who said otherwise know nothing about my tribe.. Am Urhobo and I can proof the word most claim re false

Oba : We call king Ovie , But in some sentence we use Oba tp refer to King.. like 'Oba risi' meaning king of the word.

Ego : Looking at this word closely you can see the similarity with Igho used in Urhobo.

Olori: Most Urhobo On this forum , am really Disappointed in them.. Olori is a Popular word used in Urhobo especially those from Ughelli.. we have The Olori Family In Ughelli .. Olori means Head of a place or family or group .. in Yoruba it means same.

EWa : I already explained this earlier