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For Those Who Justify The Nigerian Army Of The Shittite GENOCIDE! by OfficialIYANU(m): 3:09pm On Dec 18, 2015 |
This was my Facebook post 2 days ago: [b] Just watched a video released by the Nigerian Army (NA) showing the initial standoff between the Shittites and the COAS' convoy. There are 2 sides (FACTS, if you may) to this issue: FACT 1: You DO NOT threaten an armed man. The COAS moves in a convoy of ARMED MILITARY MEN who are actually trained to KILL. The video clearly shows the military men first trying to 'beg' their way through the crowd... on the other hand however, the Shitties were brandishing machetes and shouting 'Allahu-Akbar'. This is clear 'Battle ready' behavior. FACT 2: The COAS should have turned back from this journey. He was on his way to pay homage to the Emir of Zazzau. This could have been done at another date; to forestall the kind of catastrophe and mess we're in now. No matter what happens (except you are actually attacked), as the NIGERIAN Chief of Army Staff; tasked with the prime duty of Protecting NIGERIAN Lives, YOU DO NOT 'OPEN FIRE' ON YOUR FELLOW NIGERIAN! PS: I just wonder how 'at peace' he was, driving by those bodies he had slain on his way to perform a 'Religious' function! [/b] After the post, the following conversation occurred between one of my Fathers-in-the-Lord (B) and I (O): 3 Likes
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Re: For Those Who Justify The Nigerian Army Of The Shittite GENOCIDE! by delishpot: 3:17pm On Dec 18, 2015 |
He should turn back? And for how long does he have to keep turning back? My only problem is that they should have arrested them instead of opening fire on them. They should have used tear gas and rubber bullets. I do not support out right shooting. |
Re: For Those Who Justify The Nigerian Army Of The Shittite GENOCIDE! by femu(m): 3:34pm On Dec 18, 2015 |
NA ROE ROE include: • The principle of minimum force and proportionality must be applied at all times; whenever operational situation permits, every reasonable effort shall be made to control the situation through measures short of using force, including personal contact and negotiations; the use of lethal force shall only be resorted to if all other means to control the situation have failed or in case of unexpected attack or suspected Improvised Explosive Device (IED) attack during which a delay could lead to loss of life or serious injury to personnel; and that any force applied must be limited in its intensity and duration; it must also be commensurate with the level of threat posed. • Force shall be used only when absolutely necessary to achieve an immediate aim; the decision to open fire shall be made only on orders and under the control of on-scene commander, unless there is insufficient time to obtain such order. Fire can however be opened if the life of a soldier, any law-abiding member of the public and/or property of which it is our duty to protect is in grave danger; fire must be aimed and controlled. Indiscriminate firing is not permitted. • Fire may be opened to forcefully stop any vehicle that fails to stop at a checkpoint or road block when ordered to stop for search; automatic fire will only be opened as a last resort; avoid collateral damage; after fire has ceased, render medical assistance and record details of incident both in writing and using audio/visual equipment whether or not casualty has been recorded; and whenever in doubt, seek clarification from higher headquarters. 1 Like |
Re: For Those Who Justify The Nigerian Army Of The Shittite GENOCIDE! by ITbomb(m): 3:39pm On Dec 18, 2015 |
For the second poster, the soldiers were not expecting or did they prepare for riot situation to be armed with rubber bullet, they were combatants. Secondly, to return back after civilians block your way on a government road would have set a bad precedent. Imagine IPOB blocking the road in the east just because some people did he same in the north, what if soldiers in the IPOB situation open fire, it would be said, they were killed cos they were Christians. If you start retreating because civilians block your way, you must always be retreating Finally, action started when there was an explosion from the Shitte side, in any situation, especially in the already tense atmosphere, that is a declaration of war and the soldiers responded. THERE IS NO WAY SOMEONE SHOULD BE TALKING ABOUT ARRESTS WHEN HE IS UNDER FIRE 2 Likes |
Re: For Those Who Justify The Nigerian Army Of The Shittite GENOCIDE! by babyfaceafrica: 3:50pm On Dec 18, 2015 |
What's ur point?. |
Re: For Those Who Justify The Nigerian Army Of The Shittite GENOCIDE! by babyfaceafrica: 3:50pm On Dec 18, 2015 |
What's ur point?...both are guilty!!!!..simple |
Re: For Those Who Justify The Nigerian Army Of The Shittite GENOCIDE! by nnatobryno(m): 4:05pm On Dec 18, 2015 |
We are talking about human beings been slaughtered like cow. storming the leaders compound the second day was uncalled.these incidences are clearly avoidable. Lets condemn this act by NA. #condemn 2 Likes |
Re: For Those Who Justify The Nigerian Army Of The Shittite GENOCIDE! by OfficialIYANU(m): 4:16pm On Dec 18, 2015 |
femu: 1. The first emboldened further buttresses my point: "No matter what happens (except you are actually attacked) as the NIGERIAN Chief of Army Staff..." 2. Exactly how COMMENSURATE are MACHINE GUNS to machetes and screaming women?! 3. I guess it was an IMMEDIATE AIM of the COAS to see the Emir of Zazzau! [Talk about MISPLACED PRIORITIES] 4. I do not know a better word to describe the SHOOTING and ASSASSINATION of Unarmed Innocent Nigerians than INDISCRIMINATE! SENSELESS will also do! Returning next day to burn their mosques and destroy their houses makes it WICKED, LOATHSOME and DISGUSTING! 1 Like |
Re: For Those Who Justify The Nigerian Army Of The Shittite GENOCIDE! by OfficialIYANU(m): 4:22pm On Dec 18, 2015 |
ITbomb: Please go and watch the video before coming here to spew HOGWASH!!! |
Re: For Those Who Justify The Nigerian Army Of The Shittite GENOCIDE! by OfficialIYANU(m): 4:22pm On Dec 18, 2015 |
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Re: For Those Who Justify The Nigerian Army Of The Shittite GENOCIDE! by baralatie(m): 4:25pm On Dec 18, 2015 |
OfficialIYANU:this is an official release from Kaduna stare govt.please read and analyse ON THE CLASH BETWEEN THE ARMY AND SHIITES: Text of State broadcast by Malam Nasir El-Rufai, Governor of Kaduna State, on the recent security issues in Zaria; 17 December 2015 Dear People of Kaduna State, We have witnessed sad events in Zaria and a part of Kaduna metropolis over the last few days. As your Governor, it is my duty to address you on the incidents, and explain the events that preceded the tragedy of last weekend. We shall also outline how we intend to prevent a recurrence. As you are aware, military operations have taken place in Zaria between Saturday, 12 December and Monday, 14 December 2015. There have been tragic consequences and needless loss of lives, and we extend our condolences to the families that have been affected. In this sombre moment, we have also directed that steps be taken to address the humanitarian fallouts of the operations. The State Government is carrying out after action review of the theatre of operations with a view to compensating those whose vehicles, real property and other assets were damaged as a result. The Kaduna State Government has been informed that on Saturday, 12 December 2015, the convoy of the Chief of Army Staff, Lt. General Tukur Buratai, reported an ambush and attempted assassination at a roadblock mounted by members of Sheikh Ibrahim El-Zakzaky's Islamic Movement of Nigeria. Clashes broke out as soldiers mounted operations to repel the attack, remove the obstruction to a major public highway, and to contain and arrest the perpetrators. When the security agencies sent reports of the clash to me a little after 3pm on that day, I initiated steps that I thought could calm the situation. I called Sheikh Ibrahim El-Zakzaky on the phone to get his side of the story, and thereafter visited Zaria for on-the-spot briefing and assessment and visited the Chief of Army Staff. The army and the police have since addressed the press on the security operations and the aftermath. We have also seen video clips aired on national television and online to show the extent to which the Nigerian Army tried to reason with the persons that were intent on obstructing a public highway without any justification. The avoidable weekend tragedy in Zaria has a background based on information available to the Kaduna State Government. What the Kaduna State Government has learnt Based on reports from government organs and security agencies, we have learnt the following: • There had been tension in parts of Zaria since Thursday, 10 December 2015, when members of the Islamic Movement of Nigeria were alleged to have attacked Gabari, a community on the outskirts of Zaria, in continuation of a dispute over a mosque. Like the previous attack, this second assault on Gabari also took three lives. The alleged bone of contention was that the El-Zakzaky movement wanted to take over a mosque they did not build in Gabari. The mosque had been sealed by the authorities following the collapse of the arrangements that had enabled various sects to amicably share its usage. • In the last two weeks, the Islamic Movement of Nigeria has also illegally occupied federal roads. Over a period of four days, they took over one side of the federal expressway between Kaduna and Zaria, and the roads to Kano and Katsina. They entered schools along these routes, using them as rest and recreation points without notice or permission or any concern about the disruption of academic activities. • The Husainiyah building, the headquarters of the Islamic Movement of Nigeria, was put up without statutory title to the land, and in outright defiance of a stop-work notice issued by KASUPDA in 2010. When KASUPDA followed up with a demolition notice in the same year, the then authorities chose to look the other way, and allowed the sect to complete a building that had neither title nor planning approval, and which the appropriate agency had determined was in violation of planning and development regulations. • The successful completion of this illegal building on a major road subsequently led to a pattern of inconveniences being inflicted on members of the general public. There were various reports and complaints that the sect was harassing members of the public, and inflicting hardship on commuters. At their headquarters and in other areas where Zakzaky’s movement had structures, they had tried to forcibly acquire the property of their neighbours; this is apart from subjecting residents to an illegal curfew. • Government also received reports that the Islamic Movement of Nigeria acted like a parallel state, with total disdain for the formal structures of the Nigerian government and little regard for the rights of non-members. Whenever community, traditional or political leaders invite the sect to dispute resolution meetings, they often declined the invitations. In addition, members of the movement are alleged to openly carry and use offensive weapons. • Following the Zaria incident, Shiite members of the Islamic Movement of Nigeria have tried to upset the peace in parts of Kaduna. The security forces have responded firmly to the situation in the Tudun Wada area of Kaduna Metropolis. Violent actions by sect members on Tuesday, 15 December 2016, included the use of Molotov cocktails and petrol bombs against the security forces. Judicial Commission of Inquiry to be established As the security operations in Zaria are wound-down, the Kaduna State Government is persuaded that it is vital, for reasons of accountability and transparency, that a factual and authoritative account of the events be painstakingly assembled. The Kaduna State Government has therefore decided that under the powers conferred on me by the Tribunals of Inquiry Act, a Judicial Commission of Inquiry will be established to examine the remote and immediate causes of the Zaria incident. This inquiry will be open and will enable all allegations and claims to be tested with judicial rigour. The government will act promptly on the conclusions of the inquiry, and forward recommendations requiring action by the Federal Government to Mr. President. Details of the composition and terms of reference of the judicial commission of inquiry would be made public within the next two weeks. Commitment to security and constitutional rights In the meantime, Government reiterates that it cannot permit an escalation of lawlessness. Therefore, civil security patrols, supported by the military when necessary, will continue to enable the state to maintain order, reassure residents and keep the peace. Our government continues to invest heavily in security as a foundation for the successful execution of our economic and social agenda to develop Kaduna State. Fellow citizens, Kaduna State has witnessed too many upheavals in its recent history. These tragedies have taken too many lives, maimed people, destroyed communities and hurt development. We all should jointly say no to actions that divide people, reject conduct that ignores or violates the legal and constitutional rights of others and oppose practices that contest the prerogatives of state institutions to safeguard and protect every citizen. Everyone has a fundamental right to their faiths and beliefs, but no one has any right to practise their faith in ways that diminish, distress or inconvenience others. And no one can be allowed to justify unlawful and anti-social behaviour on the grounds of religion. Only conduct that conforms to the Constitution and the laws of the country is valid, and it is the duty of the state to vigorously enforce that. No responsible leader or institution should teach their followers differently. Henceforth, no person or group, under any guise will be allowed to block any road, obstruct public highways, occupy public facilities or inconvenience citizens in Kaduna State. Anybody that needs to march may do so, but they cannot take over public facilities or disrupt social services and commercial activities in Kaduna State, and any march or procession can be undertaken only with the prior knowledge of, and protection of the police to prevent the breakdown of law and order. The Government wishes to assure every resident of Kaduna State that it is committed to fostering harmony, maintaining law and order and keeping the peace. Our Constitution rightly protects the freedom of worship, as well as the right to liberty, security and the pursuit of happiness. Everyone is entitled to these rights equally. We swore to uphold the Constitution, and our commitment to these values is unwavering. We will similarly protect these rights evenly. We urge all citizens to be vigilant as they go about their normal activities, and to report any suspicions or concerns to the appropriate authorities. Let us all redouble our commitment to sustaining the peace, and to uphold each other in our God-given humanity. While the crisis raged, the Kaduna State Government visited Zaria, and issued appeals for calm and peace. We have taken our time to make this formal broadcast due to the imperative to gather as much information as possible amidst the welter of conflicting claims, the urgency of restoring peace and the need to consult with the federal authorities. God bless Kaduna State God bless the Federal Republic of Nigeria May the souls of the departed find peace May the Almighty God Restore and Preserve Peace throughout our state and country, Amen. " 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: For Those Who Justify The Nigerian Army Of The Shittite GENOCIDE! by OfficialIYANU(m): 4:40pm On Dec 18, 2015 |
baralatie: Look my brother, all this is STORY! You're bringing in report from a Government that colluded with the NA to perpetuate injustice on members of its own state! Are you telling me that El-Rufai was not privy to this information before he went to Zazaky in his campaign days to solicit support? Are you telling me that because a faction of the sect attacked a village, 300+ other men and women had to die?! Little wonder... a wise man once said: I SEE HUMANS, BUT NO HUMANITY 1 Like |
Re: For Those Who Justify The Nigerian Army Of The Shittite GENOCIDE! by baralatie(m): 5:45pm On Dec 18, 2015 |
OfficialIYANU:the question you should answer is "are those security report true or false" |
Re: For Those Who Justify The Nigerian Army Of The Shittite GENOCIDE! by OfficialIYANU(m): 8:54pm On Dec 18, 2015 |
baralatie: My bro, your question looks like this: A SCHOOL PUPIL SLAPS HIS CLASSMATES. THE TEACHERS CATCHES HIM AND BEATS HIM. IN THE PROCESS OF BEATING HIM, THE CHILD GIVES UP (DIES)! Bros, will anybody ask "AH! But is what the child did good?" Whether the reports are true or not, whether the Shittites were constituting nuisance, the REALITY on ground is THEY HAVE BEEN SLAUGHTERED IN THEIR HUNDREDS! |
Re: For Those Who Justify The Nigerian Army Of The Shittite GENOCIDE! by baralatie(m): 8:58pm On Dec 18, 2015 |
OfficialIYANU:you have not answered the question? is the security report about this group and their actions true or false! |
Re: For Those Who Justify The Nigerian Army Of The Shittite GENOCIDE! by Farnsworth: 9:07pm On Dec 18, 2015 |
well, people always die in Nigeria from civil disobedience especially in the south and nobody complains, in-fact the north, always cheers on the killings... |
Re: For Those Who Justify The Nigerian Army Of The Shittite GENOCIDE! by Lusola15: 9:28pm On Dec 18, 2015 |
Most peeople saying what d NA did was right don't understand if u allow dis go now cos it is far away in d north or south east. What will happen next year will be far worse when fuel subsidy is removed and there is a protest like d one we had in ojota and other places. NA could av control things but dey allowed it get out of hand |
Re: For Those Who Justify The Nigerian Army Of The Shittite GENOCIDE! by vanunu: 9:38pm On Dec 18, 2015 |
ITbomb: Do you know that u are uncivilized? |
Re: For Those Who Justify The Nigerian Army Of The Shittite GENOCIDE! by ITbomb(m): 9:40pm On Dec 18, 2015 |
vanunu:No |
Re: For Those Who Justify The Nigerian Army Of The Shittite GENOCIDE! by ckmayoca: 10:03pm On Dec 18, 2015 |
nnatobryno: Leave those people supporting the move until a stray bullet meet one of their family member someday. |
Re: For Those Who Justify The Nigerian Army Of The Shittite GENOCIDE! by ckmayoca: 10:07pm On Dec 18, 2015 |
Lusola15: The people encouraging the NA action are fools. You don't shoot at someone who don't shoot at you. Even if stones are thrown aat you, you don't use a gun at them. Fuel subsidy police killed a man, the girl killed at ipod protest couldn't even be holding a cutlass but she was wasted. El rufai did right to ban road blockage and other states shld follow cos that bull shit is comon on Fridays. Muslims r used to thaat and not until the gov ban, we won't see it as a crime. 1 Like |
Re: For Those Who Justify The Nigerian Army Of The Shittite GENOCIDE! by GoodMuyis(m): 10:15pm On Dec 18, 2015 |
Lusola15: What you wanted to concluded on your mind i that Buratai is evil with his action, you are wrong. Ask again from student of ABU what are the behaviours of this sect... for them to trow Molotov cocktail at peace force on the second day of the incident shows that they are ready to damage life and property. I even read i one of the thread that these sect member were the one that carried out the 2011 post election Corp Member killing yet some folks still accused someone else for what they were not sent to do. You might condemned the second day crackdown... are you sure they are not planning for something that will shock Nigeria. If they were not silenced now then when will that be. Am not in support of massacre but when a person is so foolish to have challenge an armed man what next..... 1 Like |
Re: For Those Who Justify The Nigerian Army Of The Shittite GENOCIDE! by Chubhie: 10:24pm On Dec 18, 2015 |
Personally, I'm against any form of injustice. I think the Nigerian army was already carrying out an already prepared script against the shia movement. A year ago, you killed the sons of their leader yet they didn't go all ballistic on the nation. You expect them to give the army a welcome party? The army was looking for any flimsy excuse and they got what they wanted and maximised it. They would grow stronger someday and ask questions. Let this serve as a future record that I spoke against injustice against them. 3 Likes |
Re: For Those Who Justify The Nigerian Army Of The Shittite GENOCIDE! by Lusola15: 10:47pm On Dec 18, 2015 |
GoodMuyis: "If they were not silenced now" Thank God u are not in support of the massacre Sooner or later the Amry chief will be charged with Genocide. |
Re: For Those Who Justify The Nigerian Army Of The Shittite GENOCIDE! by OfficialIYANU(m): 7:55am On Dec 19, 2015 |
baralatie: Is that the RIGHT question now? Are you implying that they deserve the slaughter? |
Re: For Those Who Justify The Nigerian Army Of The Shittite GENOCIDE! by DaBullIT(m): 8:01am On Dec 19, 2015 |
From the OP's post clearly he's in support of the rogues trying to hide your real intention was unmasked by your arguments If you don't want to die in 100s don't block the Nigerian army's convoy I watched the video several times The captain /spokesman told the trigger happy not to fire twice They begged them for more than 8 minutes Tension in the North is too much for anyone to be taking the risk the captain took one of them could have been a suicide bomber The so called unharmed woman were wearing burka and may be concealing anything Chanting Allah akbar is Norths way to start killing people . 99Kaduna riot I was in the North is islamists Chased people to NDA despite shooting them down after several warnings over pa they kept advancing aiming to get within the premises and kill those who where there for refuge They didn't run away until an armored tank was rolled out and shot at them Based on my experience and what we've all been hearing on the news I think those soldiers deserve medals especially the captain who went to talk to them unarmed 1 Like |
Re: For Those Who Justify The Nigerian Army Of The Shittite GENOCIDE! by OfficialIYANU(m): 8:50am On Dec 21, 2015 |
DaBullIT: Again... I SEE HUMANS, BUT NO HUMANITY |
Re: For Those Who Justify The Nigerian Army Of The Shittite GENOCIDE! by orunto27: 1:57pm On Dec 21, 2015 |
Let us stop describing this as Genocide. .it's like giving a big name to a dog to enable you hang him. The Military was on a mission to do normal duty. saksaky and his group were recalcitrant family impeding the course of Justice. You don't argue with any body in arms, if you escape to restrategise, you are just lucky. |
Re: For Those Who Justify The Nigerian Army Of The Shittite GENOCIDE! by Fanirandele: 1:59pm On Dec 21, 2015 |
the thing is them going back the next day and killing people cannot be excused by anyone 1 Like |
Re: For Those Who Justify The Nigerian Army Of The Shittite GENOCIDE! by OfficialIYANU(m): 1:34am On Dec 22, 2015 |
orunto27: My bro, I am sorry but this (the emboldened) is SLAVERY MENTALITY. If I have not traveled to other more SANE, Civilized and Developed nations, perhaps I will share your school of thought. It is people with like minds as you that praise police for arresting a person who snaps them in their unholy and amoral activities. In the UK, the Military has absolutely NO business/contact with the civilian populace. Where it occurs, they show the utmost respect and regard for life! Do you know what you are saying? Can you hear yourself? '...you are just lucky'! As we speak, the FG and Senate have summoned Burutai or whatever his name is to answer questions. To you, I guess the military was also right in slaughtering more than 12 Biafra protesters because they were protesting for Biafra! With our mentality, it will take God and a few dedicated people to free Africa from General Mental Slavery! 1 Like |
Re: For Those Who Justify The Nigerian Army Of The Shittite GENOCIDE! by Nobody: 1:36am On Dec 22, 2015 |
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Re: For Those Who Justify The Nigerian Army Of The Shittite GENOCIDE! by babadem2much(m): 1:55am On Dec 22, 2015 |
Some of you have no idea who this shiites are and their worth, these guys have been blocking this same FG road and turning a sitting Gov more than once. Imagine the COAS turning back with his entourage after senior offrs pleaded with them to open a way for them to pass and the socalled whatever is that their name keep chanting Allahu- Akbar with matchets, do you know that anyone caught with matchet during armrobbery is branded as notorious what ever? Their leader was there and could not caution his men, this same act has sent him to prison during late Gen Abacha and was released by OBJ. They got what they where looking for cos the military don't use rubber bullet this days or tear gass, and that z how BH started |
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