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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Michaelangelo100: 7:54pm On Jan 23, 2016 |
grace to you brethren who are following this thread. I write and pray that the lord will strengthen Sis Analice and us with power through his Spirit in your inner being. Amen Sis Analice this Bible Passage below is for you and others so that the devil will not take your love for God away although he can't. Keep being positive and always boast of your love for him for even if you boast your boast is not of works but of faith for it is written "We are saved by grace through faith. Romans 10-39. 10NIV:But if Christ is in you, then even though your body is subject to death because of sin, the Spirit gives life because of righteousness. 11NIV:And if the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead is living in you, he who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies because of his Spirit who lives in you. 12NIV:Therefore, brothers and sisters, we have an obligation—but it is not to the flesh, to live according to it. 13NIV:For if you live according to the flesh, you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the misdeeds of the body, you will live. 14NIV:For those who are led by the Spirit of God are the children of God.i 15NIV:The Spirit you received does not make you slaves, so that you live in fear again; rather, the Spirit you received brought about your adoption to sonship. And by him we cry, “Abba, Father.” 16NIV:The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are God’s children. 17NIV:Now if we are children, then we are heirs—heirs of God and co-heirs with Christ, if indeed we share in his sufferings in order that we may also share in his glory. 18NIV:I consider that our present sufferings are not worth comparing with the glory that will be revealed in us. 19NIV:For the creation waits in eager expectation for the children of God to be revealed. 20NIV:For the creation was subjected to frustration, not by its own choice, but by the will of the one who subjected it, in hope. 21NIV:that the creation itself will be liberated from its bondage to decay and brought into the freedom and glory of the children of God. 22NIV:We know that the whole creation has been groaning as in the pains of childbirth right up to the present time. 23NIV:Not only so, but we ourselves, not have the first fruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly as we wait eagerly for our adoption to sonship, the redemption of our bodies. 24NIV:For in this hope we were saved. But hope that is seen is no hope at all. Who hopes for what they already have? 25NIV:But if we hope for what we do not yet have, we wait for it patiently. 26NIV:In the same way, the Spirit helps us in our weakness. We do not know what we ought to pray for, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us through wordless groans. 27NIV:And he who searches our hearts knows the mind of the Spirit, because the Spirit intercedes for God’s people in accordance with the will of God. 28NIV:And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose. 29NIV:For those God foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brothers and sisters. 30NIV:And those he predestined, he also called; those he called, he also justified; those he justified, he also glorified. 31NIV:What, then, shall we say in response to these things? If God is for us, who can be against us? 32NIV:He who did not spare his own Son, but gave him up for us all—how will he t also, along with him, graciously give us all things? 33NIV:Who will bring any charge against those whom God has chosen? It is God who justifies. 34NIV:Who then is the one who condemns? No one. Christ Jesus who died—more than that, who was raised to life—is at the right hand of God and is also interceding for us. 35NIV:Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall trouble or hardship or persecution or famine or unclothedness or danger or sword? 36NIV:As it is written: “For your sake we face death all day long; we are considered as sheep to be slaughtered.” 37NIV:No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us. 38NIV:For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, 39NIV:neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord 1 Like |
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by analice107: 8:02pm On Jan 23, 2016 |
zeongeon:Thank you sir. You answered many questions here. Again, thanks. |
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by analice107: 8:31pm On Jan 23, 2016 |
vooks:My dearest, you nailed it. What am guiding against is lukewarmness and Compromise. Yes backsliding starts with lukewarmness, then compromise. Pls, am not saying am above comprise. All of these started with me asking for Grace to love God more. 1 Like |
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by oyeludef(m): 8:44pm On Jan 23, 2016 |
Fear is a weapon in the hands of the devil to keep us in bondage. @ sis Analice, fear not you won't fall as long as you remain in the hands of the Potter, dis is wat d scripture said While I was with them, I kept them safe by the power of your name—the name you gave me. I protected them. And only one of them was lost—the one who was sure to be lost. This was to show the truth of what the Scriptures said would happen. John 17:12 ERV Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy, To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen. Jude 1:24-25 KJV 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by oyeludef(m): 8:56pm On Jan 23, 2016 |
Blackfire:the spirit speaking here isn't the spirit of God its not hard to discern. 1 Like |
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by superior1: 8:57pm On Jan 23, 2016 |
oyeludef: God bless you sir |
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by superior1: 9:09pm On Jan 23, 2016 |
Unless anyone can show me atleast 2 places in the Bible were God used unbelievers/pagans to speak to His children, it is impossible Blackfire is speaking the heart of God to Sister Analice, to suggest otherwise amounts to blasphemy and such a Christian needs to seek His forgiveness. Amos 3:7 Paul understood this quite well, you remember Paul and Silas account
I think brethren should stop watching too much of nollywood films, I am emphasizing this issue because evil and demonically inspired counsel has led many children of God to error. [size=13pt]God can never use a non-believer to give you spiritual counsel[/size] Your non-believing teacher can counsel you in maths, your non-believing doctor can counsel you on your health.....God will never never use them to pass you message bordering on your spiritual walk with Him. I say no further on this 2 Likes |
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by oyeludef(m): 9:22pm On Jan 23, 2016 |
superior1:amen bro. Dis is d reason people fall into the hands of false prophets. When we make the word of God the full authority in our lives we won't stumble 1 Like |
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by analice107: 9:22pm On Jan 23, 2016 |
Blackfire:Bros nah. He can not be proud and at the same time needing the help of the Holy Spirit. Or is there another definition of pride? |
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by analice107: 9:31pm On Jan 23, 2016 |
CharlyG1:OK, brother Charles. I drop my confidence in God. But I thought I said I love God, and asked for Grace to love Him more even in the face of death. If I have placed my confidence in myself, then am mistaken. I feel so inadequate for God to have even thought of me, not to talk of trusting me with a task. |
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by analice107: 9:38pm On Jan 23, 2016 |
Michaelangelo100:My dear, it is that confidence in God that am being reprimanded for now. Maybe the spiritual independence I have is what is making me sound like am over confident. But I have not dependent on myself. Christ has always shown me that if I call Him, He will answer, it is that confidence I have now and, am talking the way I talk. Am sorry if I sounded in a way that put someone off. |
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by analice107: 9:44pm On Jan 23, 2016 |
Michaelangelo100:Thank you sir. Atleast one person sees things the way I see things. None of anything is about me. None. I only asked for Grace to love God more, and stand firm no matter what. And sir Blackfire rebuked me. What should I have asked for? |
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by analice107: 9:49pm On Jan 23, 2016 |
oyeludef:Thank you sir. I was beginning to think that I was being proud in my confidence in Christ. If I am, I repent oo. Abeg it's none of me. 1 Like |
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by oyeludef(m): 10:05pm On Jan 23, 2016 |
analice107:It is you who knows what you believed so other peoples opinion is irrelevant. Why do you think d book of heb6 gives qualification of those who will not be redeemed after falling? It is because falling is a choice. You won't fall dear because He will keep you from falling. Submit to the Holy Spirit to make you more like Jesus Christ and you will see greater things that will make your confidence stronger. If i may ask, what does d devil even have to offer? All things are yours dear 1 Like |
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by analice107: 10:46pm On Jan 23, 2016 |
oyeludef:Thank you very much sir. The devil has absolutely nothing to offer my brother. His strength is made perfect in my weakness. 2 Likes |
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by princely83(m): 11:04pm On Jan 23, 2016 |
What does it mean if u see yourself standing on the moon and looking at the earth? 1 Like |
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by GoodMuyis(m): 11:30pm On Jan 23, 2016 |
Blackfire: That says it all, its because you have no root, thats why its hard for you to believed |
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by GoodMuyis(m): 12:04am On Jan 24, 2016 |
Bro CharlyG1 I believe, we should be careful not to be over-confidence of not falling, we are not superhuman, I actually wanted to be on defense but I dont know what retained me now.... Thanks for your guidance analice107 forget the manner and approach of Blackfire, remember Balaam Ass, the animal talk some sense Num 22v22-30 the man may even be talking off-point, even at darkest hour of the night, there is little illumination of light 4 Likes |
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by GoodMuyis(m): 12:09am On Jan 24, 2016 |
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Nobody: 12:31am On Jan 24, 2016 |
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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by oyeludef(m): 1:59am On Jan 24, 2016 |
GoodMuyis:Balaam wasn't a child of God Analice isn't Balaam. It was a common practice in those times that before a country goes into war with another, they will place a curse over dat country as we could also see ib d case of Goliath cursing Israel in d name of his gods. balaam was into witchcraft which involves placing a spell or curse on others dat was why d king of moab employed his expertise to release potent atomic-nuclear curse on d israelite (but guess wat, instead of curses, blessings came forth) balaam even said "there is no enchantment against Jacob neither divination against Israel". Enchantment and divination are only used by d children of darkness ro cast a dark shadom on others. brother superior1 asked a good question. He said you should search throughout the scripture and say where God used an unbeliever to send a message to His Children. God spoke to His children in the old testament by only those who were prophets or occupied the office of a prophet e.g Moses and the judges.if there was non to send, He sent His angels. Go through the scripture and see how many times this phrase or similar was used "that it might be fulfilled that which was spoken by the prophet". Dis is wat Hebrew 1:1 says. God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; Hebrews 1:1-2. I also make bold to join sis Analice to say I wont fall as he that keeps me neither slumbers nor sleep He watches me so why should I fall. The Holy Spirit keeps me several steps ahead of satans gimmicks and so I won't fall. It is not pride in my ability but confidence in my saviour. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Enkaynwa(f): 4:31am On Jan 24, 2016 |
May God reward all the wonderful brothers and sisters for great work you are doing on this thread. Pls i had a dream three nights ago. In that dream i receieved a phone call and the person asked ‘am i speaking with Nkechi?‘ i answerd yes, he said are you from okuzu(a town in anambra state)? I said no, he asked me this several times i said i am not from okuzu. He then said i was among those that will win N2million. Another scene I came into the house and met my husband complaining bitterly about something, i came closer to him & touhed his body, his temperaure was very high, so i asked him to lie down but he was still complaining. He then told me that he carried his mother‘s wrapper to cover himself and his elder bro(step) asked him to go and drop it and warned him never to go near that wardrobe again. So a sister that was there with me said let her go and see if she ca gte the wrapper but she came backe and sdid he didnt allow her. Meanwhile he(elder bro) was there in thesame room with us and drinking something from a cup. So i got angry & stood up and said ‘i am not afraid of any human being under the face of this earth,‘ and i pointed at him(elder bro) and finished with in Jesus Mighty name of Jesus!(i dont knw how i got that bolbness). I told the sister to come and show me the wardrobe, we got there and i saw that he(elder bbro) used my mother inlaw‘s 3 wrappers to wrap his, his wife‘s and their daughter‘s enlargement pictuers and kept them inside the wardrobe so i woke up & prayed very well using isaiah49vs24-26. What i dont understand is why he will use my mum inlaw‘s wrappers to cover his pictures. I dnt understand this pls can someone help me here. Thank you 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by CharlyG1: 7:18am On Jan 24, 2016 |
zeongeon: Thank you Zeongeon. And Goodmuyis. And everyone here. Analice will not fall in Jesus name. Amen. The message on a warning not to backslide is not to condemn her or any of us. It' simply a message to correct our thinking that we stand in Christ not because of our many supernatural experience or testimonies. If it was because of that maybe I'll boast and say 'yes I can't fall because I've seen Jesus so many times, I've seen angels, God speaks to me directly, I even see demons and fallen angels, God tells me secrets..blah blah blah.. With all these I'm quite sure God will look at me in disappointment and Satan will laugh so hard in my face. Yes I experience all these things and I've escaped death times without numbers but I still fell. Peter fell, David fell, Samson fell, Solomon fell and many others. What's more important is rising back up again. For the righteous man may fall 7 times but he will rise again. But not in his strength but by the mercy of God. We depend on God's mercies and grace. I depend on God. So place your confidence in Christ. If you must boast, boast in Christ for His mercies and love is what keeps you. And please let us know that God can speak through anyone regardless of sex, religion, country etc. He has spoken to Pharaoh in a dream warning him about a famine. In the book of Ezra, God spoke to the Israelites through the Persian king Cyrus. God spoke to Nebuchadnezzar.He spoke to Balaam and when Balaam was proving to be stubborn He spoke through his donkey. Lol.. how amazing! That shows the power of God and the way He does things. He can speak through anyone. He can speak through anybody if He wants to. You only need to recognize the spirit behind the talking. The message blackfire brought was one of correction for us to place our priorities right, not to condemn us. Sometimes we can be too educated that we allow our natural senses take control of our thinking. This is wrong. There is a spirit of error which comes from Satan. And there is a Spirit that corrects us in our walk with Christ. Let us understand what God is saying here instead of subtly condemning someone because he is not a Christian. Jesus died for all. Even the gentiles. Not all Christians will even be accepted on that day when God rejects people even when they claim they casted demons and prayed in His name. Lets be careful and observant. At the end, it is left for us to either accept or reject. I accept the message with all of my heart. Thank you Lord. God bless you all. 9 Likes |
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by CharlyG1: 7:40am On Jan 24, 2016 |
analice107: Dear.. there is no need to be sorry. We are all learning here. God is here. God speaks. I'm learning too. We just need to take out the message that is meant for us in cases like this. I've learnt from experience that a little pride in our walk with God can bring us down really fast. Since I was a young child I started my walk with God and grew so confident in knowing God.. I didn't realize I started to be over confident in myself. God corrected me. Well, I can only say God was still training me and I was still learning. And I'm still learning even till now. I learn everyday. Its good you put your confidence in God. If you sincerely put your your confidence in Him like you say, then you have no problem at all. Infact it's case closed. God loves you dear. Thank you. 2 Likes |
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by superior1: 7:56am On Jan 24, 2016 |
I will be making an exception to a personal resolution on this thread and that is because destinies both now and in future may come to an error through heretic message. God never sent Pharaoh to deliver message to Israelites God never sent Darius (though he was a believer in Yahweh) message to Israelites God never sent Nebuchadnezzar to deliver message to the Israelites (although at the end of his life he bowed to the King of Kings) God never sent Baalam nor his donkey to pass message to the Israelites Again, I repeat......Never has God used pagans/unbelievers to pass message to His children, Never. You will have to show us the verses where He asked Who (pagan) to pass What message to His people. We know God's character by His doing in the bible. If you believe God will use an herbalist to pass you message, it shows your spiritual understanding/leaning and you will end in heresy because the children of the devil only speak lies. I see no difference in this Holy-Spirit-Herbalist relationship and people who believe there is a truth is every religion or bahaism . Does God love sinners, Yes...... but He doesnt use them as His mouth piece to His children. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by GloriousEra: 8:51am On Jan 24, 2016 |
superior1: Thanks Bro. I believe and acknowledge this truth. Will throw more light on this based on experience. Permit me to use this medium to acknowledge all Posters for their edifying and inspiring posts. |
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by GloriousEra: 9:39am On Jan 24, 2016 |
Laying on of Hands [Updated} 1 Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on to perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God, 2 Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment. 3 And this will we do, if God permit. Hebrews 6 vs 1-3 From the above scripture, it is apparent that Laying of Hands is major part of the Christian Life. l wont bother you with too much talk. 1 Timothy 5:22 Lay hands suddenly on no man, neither be partaker of other men's sins: keep yourself pure. the laying on of hands imparts, transfer or releases something, whether positive or Negative. Laying of hands can impart Blessings, Wisdom, Used to position and commission an individual, Impart the Gift of the Holy Spirit with Power/Anointing, We can Minister Healing to the Sick by Laying of Hands. In acts we see the Apostles administer the Baptism of the Holy Spirit to young believers by laying on of hands. Examples abound in the Scriptures of how such ministration was carriedout. A minister administering laying of hands is a conduit or lets say like a distribution center for a certain blessing. I was privileged to spend the last Christmas holidays with a family with 2 lovely daughters, the eldest, 4 years while the younger sixteen month old. At midnight, the younger will always be heard either screaming or crying while sleeping. This took place several nights. I had to step in their room on one of such occasions. Laid hands on her shoulder and made some declarations over her. That was the last time we heard such cries. Note l spent more than 14days with them after that. Years ago, about 25years ago at one the universities in SW Nigeria, in gatherings of believers they used to experience the moves of greatly in those days. In one of SUCH gathering, the Student Ministering decided to stray out of God's will for that moment. He wanted to do the normal - power demonstration. Guess What? He succeeded in carrying out his Wishful desires With the Assistance of Familiar spirits. A Brother who was in the Spirit saw the Minister while laying hands on people being assisted by familiar spirits. 1 Timothy 5:22 Lay hands suddenly on no man, neither be partaker of other men's sins: keep yourself pure. the laying on of hands imparts, transfer or releases something, whether positive or Negative. 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by GloriousEra: 10:45am On Jan 24, 2016 |
superior1: Some believers do have grace for imparting certain blessings by laying of hands. An example, when laying hands on a young man, supernaturally by revelation of the Spirit one begin to know certain events or something about him. If the minister is that who is ministering via demonic powers or a straying minister like the example l gave above the spiritual principle is similar but the root/source of power is questionable. Believers should be discerning in every atmosphere they meet to fellowship. A vivid case. If you follow the Pentecostal and Charismatic trends/history in Today's Nigeria, you will discover these, some Pastors/Ministers Talk, Dress, Speak, Minister and behave like the Overseer and Founder of that ministry they belong to. So it flows downwards. Nothing bad with all that. But, we have seen cases where some of these ministries and their sources of power are questionable. A Christian should pray to God for Christian Discernment to know that which is of God and separate it from the workings of the satanic. Becareful who lays hands on you. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by superior1: 11:06am On Jan 24, 2016 |
GloriousEra: Very balance, God bless you Bro 2 Likes |
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Nobody: 12:00pm On Jan 24, 2016 |
Anas09:Amen and amen and amen and amen and amen and amen....God bless u all. I've really learnt a lot from dis thread. 2 Likes |
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by GoodMuyis(m): 1:08pm On Jan 24, 2016 |
oyeludef: Yea! I believed as a child of God, a Holy Ghost baptized one for that matter, its not possible to backslide as confirm by, 1Jn3v6 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. and there is noting that should make us afraid of falling. My story was not focus on Balaam but his insignificant Donkey, an animal useful for noting other than for riding, was used by God to warn him [balaam]. Mark 13:37 And what I say unto you I say unto all, Watch. Jude 1:24-25 (KJV) Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy, To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen. We are More than Conqueror, through HIM 1 Like |
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by superior1: 1:13pm On Jan 24, 2016 |
GoodMuyis: Once saved, forever saved? |
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