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Re: The Yoruba Odu. Eji Ogbe(oyinbo/whiteman). by Nobody: 6:43pm On Jan 19, 2016
KingSango:

There is a spiritual world, some may call it a multiverse but that is what we are existing in. I said existing, because existence is different from life because life is the physical world. But above us in terms of power and frequency is a higher realm filled with different entities. All the ancient powers of Kemet were about calling down these great powers, this is the Orisha tradition. How most of the Orishas once lived on Earth, they came down from this higher realm. The Irunmole established this world and built it. Obatala, the most ancient lineage of African kings, Yemaya the most ancient lineage of African mothers. Obatala created all of mankind, even the Albino Obatala created, from which evolved the White. Demons or the Ajogun exists, the Jinn or Genies, the Ibilis, Devils, Aliens they are foolishly called. But if you take in account, extraterrestrial maybe in the Illuminati code word for these Ajogun. Since the paleskin is inferior genetically, they are worshipping the Ajogun, bringing this darkness that comes from possession. Europeans, Arabs and Jews are big time, well hidden, worshippers of black and evil magic. They use secret societies to control the world they have conquered military using traitors of Africa. The issue of treachery is what brought the African beneath these people. But it can be cured supernaturally and that is where Sango has the most power since Sango specifically, as a King Orisha, hates witches meaning worshippers of black and evil magic. This is my understanding of why our ancestors embarking to the new world, via way of slavery, in the hulls of ships, wrestled with which Orisa will destroy this demonic force. Sango was the only Orisa path save in entirety. Yet when Sango goes to war all the Orishas, including Obatala goes to war, and Ogun because Sango fights for justice, Ogun goes to war with Sango as well. Oya goes to war and that is why the weather is crazy. Oshun stops the fertility of all those who abuse women and children. We are in the end of days of the paleskin's rule and Africa is rising. We must hold to our African spirit.
Love,
Sango.
My understanding of the spiritual realm and powers is a bit different. But I do agree that Africa is rising.

Do you have anything in Yoruba culture and spirituality about the lion?
Re: The Yoruba Odu. Eji Ogbe(oyinbo/whiteman). by KingSango(m): 10:18pm On Jan 19, 2016
Muafrika2:

My understanding of the spiritual realm and powers is a bit different. But I do agree that Africa is rising.

Do you have anything in Yoruba culture and spirituality about the lion?

Yes the lion is the symbol of Oyo Empire but not exclusively as many Africans see the lion as a symbol.

But it is not the male lion that makes the Lion Pride strong but the lioness female. Lionesses are lighter in weight, run faster and further than the heavier males, travel in packs, and they do most of the hunting for the pride. The female lions are like a special forces team they attack in a coordinated fashion, they are very successful. The male lion stays in the den and watches the cubs, but also patrols the territory for other predators. The female lion is responsible for feeding the entire pride, as she makes the best hunter. The female is the one who teaches stealth and pouncing to the cubs. The Lioness is the one most responsible for the Lions, as a whole, success as Kings and Queens of the jungle.

If I may use this symbolically, the Lion, the men are the lions and the women are the lioness in Oyo people. The Alaafin is a powerful Emperor and the men of Oyo are strong. Yoruba people have shown they are the future of Nigeria, their culture is the most celebrated in all of the world when it comes to African people. Yorubas are prosperous in Nigeria and Benin. Yet there is a stumbling block to get other ethnic groups to merge with higher Yoruba consciousness.

Blackmen are holding back Africa because they have too much ego. Which this is typical of males so no harm. But in order to raise Africa, I mean Black Africa, we will need the network of Queen Mothers. Oya is the Queen of women and there must be a coming together of Queen Mothers in Oyo people. Like the lioness also the women feed their families, grow food, and run the market. African history tells of women inventing agriculture and thus were, when not interfered with, run the markets like in Yoruba culture. Money must be raised to finance such a movement and organization for the purpose of expanding loving connections with other African ethnic groups. For like the Lioness, Mothers have an unique way of accepting children no matter where they come from. Mothers are genuine nuturers of caring and concern. This is nature. We must grow and expand the rise of Queen Mothers. The younger wife of the Alaafin of Oyo maybe could be the right Queen Mother to support this cause or another Yoruba mother of high community responsibility and social standing. To form a Woman's club slash clinic for helping women and children and make the people stronger.

Watch nature:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3Vg1tRXYPw


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5J_ARKyftA


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZw-1BfHFKM

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Re: The Yoruba Odu. Eji Ogbe(oyinbo/whiteman). by Nobody: 3:59am On Jan 20, 2016
KingSango
Thanks for the answer.
Re: The Yoruba Odu. Eji Ogbe(oyinbo/whiteman). by PastorAIO: 12:30pm On Jan 20, 2016
KingSango:
Lot of dumb Blacks think Freemasonry comes from Kemet, but hell IFA and Vodun comes from Kemet. Many people borrowed from Kemet but Ifa and Vodun are original because it was our ancestors who created Kemetic science, the Knights Templar and Jews all copied the teachings and made them demonic. We don't need Freemasonry, we have Ogboni and Wado and other African secret societies that are older, more ancient and have greater secrets in them. Love, Sango.

You do realise that most babalawos that you're likely to meet in Nigeria are Freemasons.

Freemasonry makes a lot of reference to Egypt and the knowledge derived from there.

Rastafari religion came from Freemasonry.

Hermetic tradition is One all around the world.
Re: The Yoruba Odu. Eji Ogbe(oyinbo/whiteman). by KingSango(m): 3:26pm On Jan 20, 2016
PastorAIO:


You do realise that most babalawos that you're likely to meet in Nigeria are Freemasons.

Freemasonry makes a lot of reference to Egypt and the knowledge derived from there.

Rastafari religion came from Freemasonry.

Hermetic tradition is One all around the world.


You can't be one with the enemy and even worse one with your betrayers or traitors.
What Freemasonry is European reapplication of ancient Hermetic knowledge, on this we agree. African civilization, especially Kemet, aka Ancient Egypt, was ram shacked, books stolen, books burned, libraries destroyed and a host of experts in crafts, sciences and arts killed or enslaved. Now the European keepers of African knowledge, copied that knowledge and now uses it as carrot to Hermetic hungry Africans. They make you swore blood oaths to them. Its well documented that the Freemasonry started in Scotland by the Knights Templar. I know the knowledge circulated here and there, especially in Spain with the Moors, with the Turks and the Vatican. But the collection of the most Hermetic knowledge is the one with the most power. That would be the Jews who have the Kabbalah and experts at using it control all the world's economy.

There where over 2000 Gods and Goddesses the ancient Egyptians worshipped. Although, the Egyptians recognize the existence of Demons, Ajogun, the Jinn, they didn't worship them. This principle is in accord with IFA and the Orishas are the same cosmic forces that the ancient Egyptians worshiped. Now the names may have changed but the Gods are still the same cosmic principles and spirits. Masonic, stone cutters, there's no magic in stone but stone doesn't act like stone when you combine it with Hermetic principles and inter-dimensional contact. Calling down celestrial powers, like the Orishas, and have them perform through you, thus possession. And as there is Orisha possession, there is God possession, and in the case of most of Freemasonry demon possession and worship.

As far as I remember, Sango hates witches. All those who work with dark spirits or demons are witches, the women, and warlocks the men. There's alot evil in this world and it goes on in Africa as well.

Love,

Sango.
Re: The Yoruba Odu. Eji Ogbe(oyinbo/whiteman). by PastorAIO: 2:44pm On Jan 21, 2016
KingSango:
Lot of dumb Blacks think Freemasonry comes from Kemet, but hell IFA and Vodun comes from Kemet. Many people borrowed from Kemet but Ifa and Vodun are original because[b] it was our ancestors who created Kemetic science,[/b]

Nobody's ancestors created anything. All hermetic wisdom comes, not from humans, but from the spiritual realm.

KingSango:

You can't be one with the enemy and even worse one with your betrayers or traitors.
Sango.

There are no enemies but that which we harbour within. We go to such lengths to protect and cherish our enemy. Such is the state of humanity.

Have you got any historical evidence to back up with you are saying about Ifa in ancient Kemet/Egypt? And also any back up that Masonry is demonic version of hermetic tradition? I haven't seen anything wrong in Masonry, based on what I know about it.

Personally I am not aware of any Oshun river in egypt. So I don't know what Oshun they would have worshipped in Egypt that they wouldn't have worshipped in China, or ancient greece or Norse religion up there near the north pole.
Everywhere people worship the land and commune with the environment. Everywhere in the world. It is therefore not a black thing.

What do you mean by 'magic' when you say that there is no magic in stone? If you mean that stone is not spiritual then you are wrong. One of the most valuable things in existence is precisely a stone.

Witches are beautiful. Iyaami Osoronga forever protects her children. Those who are false will have something to fear. Osa Meji will gives calm. Those who are afraid of Winchy know deep down why they are afraid. They need to confess.
Re: The Yoruba Odu. Eji Ogbe(oyinbo/whiteman). by KingSango(m): 3:26pm On Jan 21, 2016
PastorAIO:


Nobody's ancestors created anything. All hermetic wisdom comes, not from humans, but from the spiritual realm.



There are no enemies but that which we harbour within. We go to such lengths to protect and cherish our enemy. Such is the state of humanity.

Have you got any historical evidence to back up with you are saying about Ifa in ancient Kemet/Egypt? And also any back up that Masonry is demonic version of hermetic tradition? I haven't seen anything wrong in Masonry, based on what I know about it.

Personally I am not aware of any Oshun river in egypt. So I don't know what Oshun they would have worshipped in Egypt that they wouldn't have worshipped in China, or ancient greece or Norse religion up there near the north pole.
Everywhere people worship the land and commune with the environment. Everywhere in the world. It is therefore not a black thing.

What do you mean by 'magic' when you say that there is no magic in stone? If you mean that stone is not spiritual then you are wrong. One of the most valuable things in existence is precisely a stone.

Witches are beautiful. Iyaami Osoronga forever protects her children. Those who are false will have something to fear. Osa Meji will gives calm. Those who are afraid of Winchy know deep down why they are afraid. They need to confess.


Sure there's plenty of evidence that Freemasonry isn't African in origin. The name of Freemasonry itself is foreign to the tongues of mother Africa, so how could it be African? Just because the European copied Hermetic knowledge doesn't make it proper for Africans to swore oaths into this brotherhood and then defend it. You have virtually no proof that Freemasonry is of African origin only you're claiming that it contains Hermetic knowledge. Which we all know the Europeans stole many books and scrolls from Ancient Kemet which was Hermetic knowledge.

I am aware of the magical properties of stone, I also know this how the Ancient Kemet summoned or conjured celestial forces inside of their stone temples. His Royal Majesty Oba Adefunmi I, taught that IFA was a forrest version of the Alchemy or elemental magic of Kemet. Now they used herbs instead of stone. All Masonic lodges are temples, which means they are doing spiritual rituals inside of them. The invaders forced the Africans out of their lands, as we get the legend of Oduduwa taking his people from a Nome of Egypt back to the Nigeria area. This is where they encounter the Ogboni and was overcome by their secret society until Ayaba Moremi discovered their secret. Oduduwa became a member as did all the chiefs under him. Ogboni is the oldest society in Africa as Obatala the oldest deity, who was an ancient King who built Ile Ife. The current Ile Ife isn't even the original site, the original is site is secret. This is the site where the deity Obatala created mankind. Mankind originates in Nigeria. Nigeria is the home of the human race. Oduduwa is considered the younger brother of Obatala. Meaning African civilization left East Africa and restarted in the West, this time as a forrest based civilization instead of stone. We will build with stone again. But we have an enemy on the Earth who must leave before we can restart this greatness.

You're worshipping Freemasonry, how foolish, there's so much knowledge kept secret in Africa that only passes via bloodlines. You must not be of the bloodline so you are forced to seek this knowledge elsewhere, but pay a price of swearing an oath of blood to the enemy for attainment. There are thousands of Orishas, cosmic forces, that man can summon and yield powerful magic. There were over 2000 Gods and Goddesses in Kemet. There were also many Jinns or Demons or Ajogun as Yoruba call them. The paleskin aka Whiteman worships demons in his orders, feeling himself not blessed as the Blackman and motivated by negative desire, envy and hatred. There are many Blacks in Africa and elsewhere that worship demons as well. I know this is true, when I look at the atrocities that have occurred in Africa, the mass killings, severe oppression of women, and sacrifice of children. Slavery was instituted by Africans, the Moors, who were Fez wearing Masons, jealous of traditional Africans wealth and power. When I look that inhumane things the Moors did, I wonder, how can another human being do that to another? Unless these humans were possessed with something demonic. Seeing that is the only logical explanation, my conclusion, is where did they become possessed and how? Freemasonry.

You can either use the Hermetic knowledge to summon Angels/Orishas/Good spirits or to summon Demons/Ajogun/Evil spirits. Spirits do the greatest magic not man.


Love, Sango.
Re: The Yoruba Odu. Eji Ogbe(oyinbo/whiteman). by PastorAIO: 3:46pm On Jan 21, 2016
Brother, you seem to be so far up some stratosphere somewhere that you can't even follow what I wrote. You say freemasonry started in Scotland by Knights Templar then you say Moors used it to institute slavery in Africa. Which one came first?

I don't know where you saw me worship Freemasonry that you made the accusation. n e way.

I don't know where you saw me say Freemasonry was of African origin. In fact I'm not sure if you're responding to me or not because nothing you've said pertains to what I said at all. All I asked for was any evidence that Ifa was practiced in ancient Kemet, and evidence that Freemasonry is a demonic version of Hermetica. Can you address those questions?

Regards


KingSango:



Sure there's plenty of evidence that Freemasonry isn't African in origin. The name of Freemasonry itself is foreign to the tongues of mother Africa, so how could it be African? Just because the European copied Hermetic knowledge doesn't make it proper for Africans to swore oaths into this brotherhood and then defend it. You have virtually no proof that Freemasonry is of African origin only you're claiming that it contains Hermetic knowledge. Which we all know the Europeans stole many books and scrolls from Ancient Kemet which was Hermetic knowledge.

I am aware of the magical properties of stone, I also know this how the Ancient Kemet summoned or conjured celestial forces inside of their stone temples. His Royal Majesty Oba Adefunmi I, taught that IFA was a forrest version of the Alchemy or elemental magic of Kemet. Now they used herbs instead of stone. All Masonic lodges are temples, which means they are doing spiritual rituals inside of them. The invaders forced the Africans out of their lands, as we get the legend of Oduduwa taking his people from a Nome of Egypt back to the Nigeria area. This is where they encounter the Ogboni and was overcome by their secret society until Ayaba Moremi discovered their secret. Oduduwa became a member as did all the chiefs under him. Ogboni is the oldest society in Africa as Obatala the oldest deity, who was an ancient King who built Ile Ife. The current Ile Ife isn't even the original site, the original is site is secret. This is the site where the deity Obatala created mankind. Mankind originates in Nigeria. Nigeria is the home of the human race. Oduduwa is considered the younger brother of Obatala. Meaning African civilization left East Africa and restarted in the West, this time as a forrest based civilization instead of stone. We will build with stone again. But we have an enemy on the Earth who must leave before we can restart this greatness.

You're worshipping Freemasonry, how foolish, there's so much knowledge kept secret in Africa that only passes via bloodlines. You must not be of the bloodline so you are forced to seek this knowledge elsewhere, but pay a price of swearing an oath of blood to the enemy for attainment. There are thousands of Orishas, cosmic forces, that man can summon and yield powerful magic. There were over 2000 Gods and Goddesses in Kemet. There were also many Jinns or Demons or Ajogun as Yoruba call them. The paleskin aka Whiteman worships demons in his orders, feeling himself not blessed as the Blackman and motivated by negative desire, envy and hatred. There are many Blacks in Africa and elsewhere that worship demons as well. I know this is true, when I look at the atrocities that have occurred in Africa, the mass killings, severe oppression of women, and sacrifice of children. Slavery was instituted by Africans, the Moors, who were Fez wearing Masons, jealous of traditional Africans wealth and power. When I look that inhumane things the Moors did, I wonder, how can another human being do that to another? Unless these humans were possessed with something demonic. Seeing that is the only logical explanation, my conclusion, is where did they become possessed and how? Freemasonry.

You can either use the Hermetic knowledge to summon Angels/Orishas/Good spirits or to summon Demons/Ajogun/Evil spirits. Spirits do the greatest magic not man.


Love, Sango.






Re: The Yoruba Odu. Eji Ogbe(oyinbo/whiteman). by KingSango(m): 6:21pm On Jan 21, 2016
PastorAIO:

Brother, you seem to be so far up some stratosphere somewhere that you can't even follow what I wrote. You say freemasonry started in Scotland by Knights Templar then you say Moors used it to institute slavery in Africa. Which one came first?

I don't know where you saw me worship Freemasonry that you made the accusation. n e way.

I don't know where you saw me say Freemasonry was of African origin. In fact I'm not sure if you're responding to me or not because nothing you've said pertains to what I said at all. All I asked for was any evidence that Ifa was practiced in ancient Kemet, and evidence that Freemasonry is a demonic version of Hermetica. Can you address those questions?

Regards





Look, I don't live in knowledge starved Africa where most of the people are illiterate and even the academic ones aren't enlightened. There's alot of backwardness in Africa confessed by many Africans. This is deliberate as Africa suffered thousands yeas of invasions, destabilization, famines, etc. I live in the U.S and its a Mason based nation, ran totally by Masons, as much of the Western world. We have readily access to information here long before the internet. There's tons of information about the so-called secrets of Masons, espoused mostly by Masons themselves. Freemasons are at the root of every evil that goes on this planet from White Supremacy, human trafficking, slavery, drug smuggling, gambling, slavery, white slavery of women, child abduction and pedophilia, spreading homosexuality, and wars, economic oppression, religious nonsense, covert wars, political targeting and blackballing rivals who aren't a Mason, weapons of mass destruction. Nearly every evil that is messing up this planet originates with Freemasonry the largest secret society in the world.

Most Blacks join not for the knowledge but for power and wealth, to be above the law. Most of them don't know anything about Alchemy, magic, or anything higher than a paycheck. I speak many of them frequently and have had extensive conversations and I wasn't impressed. There are 33 degrees and most Blacks are stuck at the Master Mason level, level 3. I know nearly all the Blacks in power and wealth in the U.S are Masons and they are outright traitors of Africa. Most of the colonial governments that still run Africa and are so corrupt they are majority Freemasons. Some are still making deals with Europeans that give Europeans they edge, trade their lands while their people starve. It wouldn't surprise me if Boko Horam were Masons as well. It fits the narrative of why they still are evading justice and pushing more chaos in Nigeria. Many Muslims are Freemasons and their attachment to Jihad is just a front for conquest. Terrorism is a Freemason invention to make way for the New World Order.

There are two Ogboni that I am aware of. One is the original who answers to the traditional Kings, which includes the Alaafin, who is a member. And there is the European based Reformed Ogboni Fraternity. How come Ogboni needs reforming? Because the European established control over every economic aspect after invading. Many Africans didn't get their livelihoods from the Kings or the Ogboni so they began to join European groups, Reformed Ogboni Fraternity is Freemasonry. This is how come you are defending it and denouncing West Africans as having nothing to do with Kemet. We have that type of traitors over here too.


I applaud some brave White men who have come out and exposed the truth of this demonic Freemasonry


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBAIdK-irLA&list=PLAWeTblUV2BxYOB-xs7SPYKW0e1ErN4KX

President Rawlings also talked about how African leaders had to watch what they said. This is because traitor Africans, Freemasons, are everywhere assassinating and keeping Africa under European control. They are Knights of European civilization and sworn to them by blood oath.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRa3C9JTTAU&list=LL7Tf49DuXGmqEKlMNu2CX0w&index=17

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Re: The Yoruba Odu. Eji Ogbe(oyinbo/whiteman). by gatiano(m): 7:55pm On Jan 21, 2016
A lot of Africans don't even know that they are speaking a form of (infact the original) ancient kemetic languages. Thus, I agree that the Yorubas' Orishas are just exactly The Nterus/Neterus or The Egyptian Gods.

However, i also agree with pastor aio, about the witches, That maybe according to its english word, - Aje can also be Aye, since 'Y' can be interchanged for "J". It mean one who exist. It is the same meaning with Oya.

KingSango:




Look, I don't live in knowledge starved Africa where most of the people are illiterate and even the academic ones aren't enlightened. There's alot of backwardness in Africa confessed by many Africans. This is deliberate as Africa suffered thousands yeas of invasions, destabilization, famines, etc. I live in the U.S and its a Mason based nation, ran totally by Masons, as much of the Western world. We have readily access to information here long before the internet. There's tons of information about the so-called secrets of Masons, espoused mostly by Masons themselves. Freemasons are at the root of every evil that goes on this planet from White Supremacy, human trafficking, slavery, drug smuggling, gambling, slavery, white slavery of women, child abduction and pedophilia, spreading homosexuality, and wars, economic oppression, religious nonsense, covert wars, political targeting and blackballing rivals who aren't a Mason, weapons of mass destruction. Nearly every evil that is messing up this planet originates with Freemasonry the largest secret society in the world.

Most Blacks join not for the knowledge but for power and wealth, to be above the law. Most of them don't know anything about Alchemy, magic, or anything higher than a paycheck. I speak many of them frequently and have had extensive conversations and I wasn't impressed. There are 33 degrees and most Blacks are stuck at the Master Mason level, level 3. I know nearly all the Blacks in power and wealth in the U.S are Masons and they are outright traitors of Africa. Most of the colonial governments that still run Africa and are so corrupt they are majority Freemasons. Some are still making deals with Europeans that give Europeans they edge, trade their lands while their people starve. It wouldn't surprise me if Boko Horam were Masons as well. It fits the narrative of why they still are evading justice and pushing more chaos in Nigeria. Many Muslims are Freemasons and their attachment to Jihad is just a front for conquest. Terrorism is a Freemason invention to make way for the New World Order.

There are two Ogboni that I am aware of. One is the original who answers to the traditional Kings, which includes the Alaafin, who is a member. And there is the European based Reformed Ogboni Fraternity. How come Ogboni needs reforming? Because the European established control over every economic aspect after invading. Many Africans didn't get their livelihoods from the Kings or the Ogboni so they began to join European groups, Reformed Ogboni Fraternity is Freemasonry. This is how come you are defending it and denouncing West Africans as having nothing to do with Kemet. We have that type of traitors over here too.


I applaud some brave White men who have come out and exposed the truth of this demonic Freemasonry


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBAIdK-irLA&list=PLAWeTblUV2BxYOB-xs7SPYKW0e1ErN4KX

President Rawlings also talked about how African leaders had to watch what they said. This is because traitor Africans, Freemasons, are everywhere assassinating and keeping Africa under European control. They are Knights of European civilization and sworn to them by blood oath.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRa3C9JTTAU&list=LL7Tf49DuXGmqEKlMNu2CX0w&index=17



Re: The Yoruba Odu. Eji Ogbe(oyinbo/whiteman). by KingSango(m): 9:28pm On Jan 21, 2016
gatiano:
A lot of Africans don't even know that they are speaking a form of (infact the original) ancient kemetic languages. Thus, I agree that the Yorubas' Orishas are just exactly The Nterus/Neterus or The Egyptian Gods.

However, i also agree with pastor aio, about the witches, That maybe according to its english word, - Aje can also be Aye, since 'Y' can be interchanged for "J". It mean one who exist. It is the same meaning with Oya.


Witches aren't what you are describing you maybe referring to something else other than what I am describing. What I'm talking about is women and men who practice malevolent witchcraft or sorcery. Those skilled in the arts of the left hand put curses on others they are envious of, in rival with or doing vile services to please demons. These type of people we used to hunt them down when Oyo Empire was strong. Watch Shaka doing the same thing here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrMk2-RjxCQ

Killing witches isn't European it's African law.




Crops would be dying and cattle would die, and people would wonder why, it was reported to the King, the king called the high priests or priestesses, and they informed him, after doing oracle, that a witch or warlocks were responsible. So the King ordered remote execution and/or sent out soldiers to kill them. Evil witchcraft has a long history in Africa. Many people who challenged the king, sometimes royal members who were not chosen for King turned to treachery. Since everyone knows a witch or warlock who will do evil services for money they consulted these types. The Oriki Sango says that Sango hates witches, those who misuse the mystic powers to curse others and those who act outside of their authority.

When slaves first came here to the West the slave masters took from us our culture and gave us Catholic religion. They accused our traditional religion of being demonic and evil black magic. Well we did use it against them but they were unjust to us. But also they wanted to make sure we were spiritually unarmed as they were also into practicing sorcery, called Freemasonry. The slave masters were all Freemasons, Freemason lodges are temples and they practice Alchemy which is the same as Ifa or Vodu. European practice necromancy which working with dead spirits, ancestral worship for Africans, but the European doesn't care, he's seeks the most depraved spirits to raise for evil doing.

Also the lying them Arabs, Turks and Persians also practice Freemasonry and evil black magic. All this stuff about there's only one God and His name is Allah, all the time they are practicing witchcraft too. Witchcraft or sorcery is all over the world in every culture. It is the most powerful science that there is. Organized religion is the same as gun control, take away the knowledge of spiritual warfare from a people and leave them with an empty shell.


What the Knights Templar were famous for was going all over the ancient world whatever they heard great magic resided. Ram shacking temples, killing and raping, and massacring people for their hidden knowledge. They collected a huge body of metaphysical sciences and set them up in degrees of initiation. Each degree required a blood oath, more wickedness to be done on the part of the person wanting the next degree. The Masons are a vile group. There are criminals and then there are villains, villains are vile people. Villains do evil to humanity because they are making deals with demons. Demons rule this planet now.

What happened in Ancient Kemet is really a battle between two brothers, Osiris and Set. Isis, the Queen Mother, choose Osiris to be king. I know now Oyo Mesi chooses the Alaafin but this is a stray from African tradition because ancient wise Queen Mothers choose Kings and chiefs. All the land belonged to the Queen Mother. Set was unfit to be King so Isis choose Osiris over the older brother Set. Prince Set was still a prince and had a loyal following, a temple that worshiped with him. Set formed his own order, this is where pedophilia, the manipulation of children via sex, came into play. Set was opening up the door and channeling demons. Set became determined to become King so Set and his conspirators hatched a plot to kill Osiris. They were successful but Osiris became more powerful becoming Lord of the dead. Osiris would not let their souls enter into paradise instead condemn them, they all started giving birth to Albinos a product of the curse. This was to weaken them it seem but the choose to continue to do evil was the decision of some of them. The mating of Albinos over and over, incestuously, is what spawn the so-called White race. The human races is fighting itself to the satisfaction of demons who despise order. Olodumare created order and the demons as well to push man towards his goal of oneness, i.e order. We are supposed to live with character says Ifa, like Maat, pure character and denounce Satan.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3K5_e_VWL7U

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Re: The Yoruba Odu. Eji Ogbe(oyinbo/whiteman). by gatiano(m): 11:25pm On Jan 21, 2016
First of all, I can't claim that I know, because I will be learning for a long long long time (1 trillion years of learning). I however know what I have learnt (not 100%, nothing can be learnt at a 100, until after 1 trillion years of experience, we can called this theories and there are those that are not theories but at a 100% fact), So I will just share my opinion and there are opinions that are feel very strongly about.

'YE' is an Egyptian word which means "To exist, To be, To live". Like I stated earlier, the consonant letter 'y' can be interchanged for 'j', and in some West African languages, it may be nasalized - "Nye" or 'Mye', Nje etc.
"E" can also be interchaged with any of the vowels "a,i,o,u" or other related sounds.

According to Yoruba grammatical and phonetic rules, amongst a few,I'll mention 2 or 3
1) Some or most noun must begin with a vowel. Example- Shu or Su becomes Esu and also Osu(n)
2) Two consonant can never stay side by side, they must be split by a vowel.
3) There is no open syllable in Yoruba language.

So "YE" (Kemetic word "to exist') changes in Yoruba as
- 'Yeye' in some dialect and 'Iya' in some other dialect, Thus Iya mi or Yeye mi means 'My Mother', But the original means- She who causes me to exist or live.
Only A woman can bring the Spirit and the Soul into physical existence.
"Aje" the Yoruba word for witch mean, One who can bring into existence, Wonder why they call their practises "witchcraft" compare to the word "Spacecraft"; The craft means carrier of something...
Thus, Every woman is an Aje, Everywoman is a witch. We have only be mislead to fear and run away from that which can enlighten us, deceived by the same freemasons you wrote about. Every woman is an "Aje" by the power of their womb.

It just then depends on how each and everyone of them uses it when it is activated in them.

Africans did not start killing witches, It started with the europeans since they strongly brought the patriachy rule, They began killing women, accusing any random women and mostly Black women (they exclude that in their movies). Like I always say or write and I know this for a 100%, Every evil known within the Black people was learnt from the non-blacks, or in fewer cases as a result of the troubles and traumas gotten from the non-blacks.

Black magic is good! white magic is the evil one, for it is incomplete, weak and done the opposite way. Remember anything evil , filthy, and dirty, The non-blacks especially the caucasians make them fair-seeming.

Black or darkness is to be forever for eternity, It will always be (they make us fear dark), light on the other hand depends on darkness, especially the etheric darkness. light depends on time, whereever there is light, darkness is its master. It is a simple reasoning and logic.

For us to really understand the wicked witches of Africa, One has to look it from all sides, discussing about traumas, self-forgetfulness and understanding The body, Soul, and the Spirit.

THat Sango hates witches may mean something entirely different, One only needs to study the story well.


KingSango:










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Re: The Yoruba Odu. Eji Ogbe(oyinbo/whiteman). by Nobody: 5:14am On Jan 22, 2016
You are right about the demonic rule of the world. They have been in power since the beginning. The are the powers of this age. But you are wrong to ascribe control to afew particular demons that have to move around races. Demons to not do that, because they exist with men. They are specific to race, tribe, and bloodline. That is why God since time immemorial dealt with people according to their bloodlines. Every race /tribe has had a time in the sun and a time to serve in their season.

First, the European demons/principalities are in power because of spiritual seasons established before time began. Second, they do not take power, but for God's appointed season. He is still the King of kings, including demonic Kings which rule the earth. Most importantly the European principality is on its last leg.

There is an African principality. A King, demonic yet African inheritage. You may be right to the extent that he has been (taken) bound severally by other powers. To serve. Because all these powers do not rule on their own behalf, as evil as they may be. You also need to know, he is not bound any more. A new appointed season has began for the African powers. All her kings, and they are many, stand restored.

Many African leaders know this, and so do the former masters and that's why the last couple of years have seen a change in African relation to the west and western institutions like the UN(which was a former of a world order that brought all the powers of the earth under the control of Europe). The dream of a united world order is over.This detachment from the West will progress gradually till Africa has nothing attached to it that is not African. Because the kingdom may be darkness, but they all answer to a King of kings who is a God of order.

Once the seasons change by divine order, even demons obey. Watch Africa carefully as it shakes off colonialism.

Freemasonry and other demonic organization's may have discovered how to conjure a few demons. But I doubt that they are demons of any high rank in the spirit realm. And they have no effect whatsoever on the determination of the ruling powers of darkness. Apart from unnecessary demon possession, freemasonry or any other demonic worship order is not an answer to Africa's recovery. It's a vain obsession. (BTW I read somewhere that freemason started as a simple gathering of stone masons. Like a trade union. If they later turned into a demon worshiping church ... it's their business )

You cannot speak about demonic powers and forget a spiritual power that established in Christ, this power has the same principalities in site. For their takeover, destruction and replacement. Demonic principalities are also on their last leg. what you are writing is inaccurate.



KingSango:




Look, I don't live in knowledge starved Africa where most of the people are illiterate and even the academic ones aren't enlightened. There's of backwardness in Africa confessed by many Africans. This is deliberate as Africa suffered thousands yeas of invasions, destabilization, famines, etc. I live in the U.S and its a Mason based nation, ran totally by Masons, as much of the Western world. We have readily access to information here long before the internet. There's tons of information about the so-called secrets of Masons, espoused mostly by Masons themselves. Freemasons are at the root of every evil that goes on this planet from White Supremacy, human trafficking, slavery, drug smuggling, gambling, slavery, white slavery of women, child abduction and pedophilia, spreading homosexuality, and wars, economic oppression, religious nonsense, covert wars, political targeting and blackballing rivals who aren't a Mason, weapons of mass destruction. Nearly every evil that is messing up this planet originates with Freemasonry the largest secret society in the world.

Most Blacks join not for the knowledge but for power and wealth, to be above the law. Most of them don't know anything about Alchemy, magic, or anything higher than a paycheck. I speak many of them frequently and have had extensive conversations and I wasn't impressed. There are 33 degrees and most Blacks are stuck at the Master Mason level, level 3. I know nearly all the Blacks in power and wealth in the U.S are Masons and they are outright traitors of Africa. Most of the colonial governments that still run Africa and are so corrupt they are majority Freemasons. Some are still making deals with Europeans that give Europeans they edge, trade their lands while their people starve. It wouldn't surprise me if Boko Horam were Masons as well. It fits the narrative of why they still are evading justice and pushing more chaos in Nigeria. Many Muslims are Freemasons and their attachment to Jihad is just a front for conquest. Terrorism is a Freemason invention to make way for the New World Order.

There are two Ogboni that I am aware of. One is the original who answers to the traditional Kings, which includes the Alaafin, who is a member. And there is the European based Reformed Ogboni Fraternity. How come Ogboni needs reforming? Because the European established control over every economic aspect after invading. Many Africans didn't get their livelihoods from the Kings or the Ogboni so they began to join European groups, Reformed Ogboni Fraternity is Freemasonry. This is how come you are defending it and denouncing West Africans as having nothing to do with Kemet. We have that type of traitors over here too.


I applaud some brave White men who have come out and exposed the truth of this demonic Freemasonry


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBAIdK-irLA&list=PLAWeTblUV2BxYOB-xs7SPYKW0e1ErN4KX

President Rawlings also talked about how African leaders had to watch what they said. This is because traitor Africans, Freemasons, are everywhere assassinating and keeping Africa under European control. They are Knights of European civilization and sworn to them by blood oath.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRa3C9JTTAU&list=LL7Tf49DuXGmqEKlMNu2CX0w&index=17



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Re: The Yoruba Odu. Eji Ogbe(oyinbo/whiteman). by KingSango(m): 2:48pm On Jan 22, 2016
gatiano:
First of all, I can't claim that I know, because I will be learning for a long long long time (1 trillion years of learning). I however know what I have learnt (not 100%, nothing can be learnt at a 100, until after 1 trillion years of experience, we can called this theories and there are those that are not theories but at a 100% fact), So I will just share my opinion and there are opinions that are feel very strongly about.

'YE' is an Egyptian word which means "To exist, To be, To live". Like I stated earlier, the consonant letter 'y' can be interchanged for 'j', and in some West African languages, it may be nasalized - "Nye" or 'Mye', Nje etc.
"E" can also be interchaged with any of the vowels "a,i,o,u" or other related sounds.

According to Yoruba grammatical and phonetic rules, amongst a few,I'll mention 2 or 3
1) Some or most noun must begin with a vowel. Example- Shu or Su becomes Esu and also Osu(n)
2) Two consonant can never stay side by side, they must be split by a vowel.
3) There is no open syllable in Yoruba language.

So "YE" (Kemetic word "to exist') changes in Yoruba as
- 'Yeye' in some dialect and 'Iya' in some other dialect, Thus Iya mi or Yeye mi means 'My Mother', But the original means- She who causes me to exist or live.
Only A woman can bring the Spirit and the Soul into physical existence.
"Aje" the Yoruba word for witch mean, One who can bring into existence, Wonder why they call their practises "witchcraft" compare to the word "Spacecraft"; The craft means carrier of something...
Thus, Every woman is an Aje, Everywoman is a witch. We have only be mislead to fear and run away from that which can enlighten us, deceived by the same freemasons you wrote about. Every woman is an "Aje" by the power of their womb.

It just then depends on how each and everyone of them uses it when it is activated in them.

Africans did not start killing witches, It started with the europeans since they strongly brought the patriachy rule, They began killing women, accusing any random women and mostly Black women (they exclude that in their movies). Like I always say or write and I know this for a 100%, Every evil known within the Black people was learnt from the non-blacks, or in fewer cases as a result of the troubles and traumas gotten from the non-blacks.

Black magic is good! white magic is the evil one, for it is incomplete, weak and done the opposite way. Remember anything evil , filthy, and dirty, The non-blacks especially the caucasians make them fair-seeming.

Black or darkness is to be forever for eternity, It will always be (they make us fear dark), light on the other hand depends on darkness, especially the etheric darkness. light depends on time, whereever there is light, darkness is its master. It is a simple reasoning and logic.

For us to really understand the wicked witches of Africa, One has to look it from all sides, discussing about traumas, self-forgetfulness and understanding The body, Soul, and the Spirit.

THat Sango hates witches may mean something entirely different, One only needs to study the story well.



I'm humbled, you bring up some sciences I didn't consider but now I will add to my knowledge. Very seldom this happens unless the only person is more adept than me.

But Sango hates witches though. Those who misuse their gifts of magic and those who act above their authority.
Re: The Yoruba Odu. Eji Ogbe(oyinbo/whiteman). by KingSango(m): 2:54pm On Jan 22, 2016
Muafrika2:
You are right about the demonic rule of the world. They have been in power since the beginning. The are the powers of this age. But you are wrong to ascribe control to afew particular demons that have to move around races. Demons to not do that, because they exist with men. They are specific to race, tribe, and bloodline. That is why God since time immemorial dealt with people according to their bloodlines. Every race /tribe has had a time in the sun and a time to serve in their season.

First, the European demons/principalities are in power because of spiritual seasons established before time began. Second, they do not take power, but for God's appointed season. He is still the King of kings, including demonic Kings which rule the earth. Most importantly the European principality is on its last leg.

There is an African principality. A King, demonic yet African inheritage. You may be right to the extent that he has been (taken) bound severally by other powers. To serve. Because all these powers do not rule on their own behalf, as evil as they may be. You also need to know, he is not bound any more. A new appointed season has began for the African powers. All her kings, and they are many, stand restored.

Many African leaders know this, and so do the former masters and that's why the last couple of years have seen a change in African relation to the west and western institutions like the UN(which was a former of a world order that brought all the powers of the earth under the control of Europe). The dream of a united world order is over.This detachment from the West will progress gradually till Africa has nothing attached to it that is not African. Because the kingdom may be darkness, but they all answer to a King of kings who is a God of order.

Once the seasons change by divine order, even demons obey. Watch Africa carefully as it shakes off colonialism.

Freemasonry and other demonic organization's may have discovered how to conjure a few demons. But I doubt that they are demons of any high rank in the spirit realm. And they have no effect whatsoever on the determination of the ruling powers of darkness. Apart from unnecessary demon possession, freemasonry or any other demonic worship order is not an answer to Africa's recovery. It's a vain obsession. (BTW I read somewhere that freemason started as a simple gathering of stone masons. Like a trade union. If they later turned into a demon worshiping church ... it's their business )

You cannot speak about demonic powers and forget a spiritual power that established in Christ, this power has the same principalities in site. For their takeover, destruction and replacement. Demonic principalities are also on their last leg. what you are writing is inaccurate.





Very good post. You speak of a great change that is based in heavenly command. I do believe that is what is happening now and that Oduduwa Nation will become a reality in our lifetime. But what are we to do with the puppets? Traitors? What will become of traitors? They are our worst enemies.
Re: The Yoruba Odu. Eji Ogbe(oyinbo/whiteman). by PastorAIO: 3:00pm On Jan 22, 2016
KingSango:




Look, I don't live in knowledge starved Africa where most of the people are illiterate and even the academic ones aren't enlightened.


So you think africans are stupidd.


I applaud some brave White men who have come out and exposed the truth of this demonic Freemasonry


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBAIdK-irLA&list=PLAWeTblUV2BxYOB-xs7SPYKW0e1ErN4KX

This is total nonsense and misinformation. OTO is not Freemasonry. Golden Dawn is Not Freemasonry. I believe when Crowley was talking about killing babies he was talking about masturbating.

Sex is indeed very spiritual and plays a part in spiritual growth. Hermeticism promises Immortality, as does Christianity and Islam. And a thousand other cults.

You should humble yourself and try to learn Hermetic science if you are indeed called to it.



President Rawlings also talked about how African leaders had to watch what they said. This is because traitor Africans, Freemasons, are everywhere assassinating and keeping Africa under European control. They are Knights of European civilization and sworn to them by blood oath.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRa3C9JTTAU&list=LL7Tf49DuXGmqEKlMNu2CX0w&index=17

I didn't hear Rawlings say anything about traitor africans or freemasons assassinating anybody.

Re: The Yoruba Odu. Eji Ogbe(oyinbo/whiteman). by KingSango(m): 3:10pm On Jan 22, 2016
PastorAIO:


So you think africans are stupidd.



This is total nonsense and misinformation. OTO is not Freemasonry. Golden Dawn is Not Freemasonry. I believe when Crowley was talking about killing babies he was talking about masturbating.

Sex is indeed very spiritual and plays a part in spiritual growth. Hermeticism promises Immortality, as does Christianity and Islam. And a thousand other cults.

You should humble yourself and try to learn Hermetic science if you are indeed called to it.



There is so much information about the demonic worship going in the West and Freemasonry to fill a library.

I don't want to learn Hermetic my goal is to get initiated in Sango, Oshun, Oya, Obatala, Vodou and Ifa. There's only time in life for so much. And since I'm starting late I don't have to waver.

Africans are not stupid, just not privileged to the infrastructure of information we have in the West. We live in a Masonic based nation, like I said. Africans from the continent hold the highest degrees among all people so they are not stupid but neither am I. Freemasonry is rubbish.
Re: The Yoruba Odu. Eji Ogbe(oyinbo/whiteman). by Nobody: 3:11pm On Jan 22, 2016
KingSango:



Very good post. You speak of a great change that is based in heavenly command. I do believe that is what is happening now and that Oduduwa Nation will become a reality in our lifetime. But what are we to do with the puppets? Traitors? What will become of traitors? They are our worst enemies.



Good question. Which I have no answer to.
Re: The Yoruba Odu. Eji Ogbe(oyinbo/whiteman). by PastorAIO: 3:19pm On Jan 22, 2016
KingSango:


There is so much information about the demonic worship going in the West and Freemasonry to fill a library.

I don't want to learn Hermetic my goal is to get initiated in Sango, Oshun, Oya, Obatala, Vodou and Ifa. There's only time in life for so much. And since I'm starting late I don't have to waver.

Africans are not stupid, just not privileged to the infrastructure of information we have in the West. We live in a Masonic based nation, like I said. Africans from the continent hold the highest degrees among all people so they are not stupid but neither am I. Freemasonry is rubbish.


Okay, but I'm going to have to take your word for it since you've failed to produce any evidence.
Re: The Yoruba Odu. Eji Ogbe(oyinbo/whiteman). by Nobody: 3:22pm On Jan 22, 2016
KingSango:


There is so much information about the demonic worship going in the West and Freemasonry to fill a library.

I don't want to learn Hermetic my goal is to get initiated in Sango, Oshun, Oya, Obatala, Vodou and Ifa. There's only time in life for so much. And since I'm starting late I don't have to waver.

Africans are not stupid, just not privileged to the infrastructure of information we have in the West. We live in a Masonic based nation, like I said. Africans from the continent hold the highest degrees among all people so they are not stupid but neither am I. Freemasonry is rubbish.

The demonic realm is 99% vain. Whether European, African or otherwise. You won't find anything of worth in any of the above. You'll be more empowered and knowledgeable relaxed somewhere on a beach.

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Re: The Yoruba Odu. Eji Ogbe(oyinbo/whiteman). by KingSango(m): 5:05pm On Jan 22, 2016
PastorAIO:


Okay, but I'm going to have to take your word for it since you've failed to produce any evidence.

General Seti is a scholar on the subject, taught by some of the best African scholars. We are awake and we know the lies and are exposing them. There are at least several African nations that outlawed Freemasonry. Freemasonry stolen Kemetic knowledge that doesn't give credit to its creators, Africans. But not only did the Asiatics, Europeans, Arabs and Jews copy Kemetic knowledge they changed the moral code.

The moral code is Ma'at, each initiate had to recite it from memory before graduating the Temple at Luxor. The 42 Laws. Freemasonry more than likely means free of Ma'at as Masons worship Lucifer and hold the idea that man is free from obeying God as his life is his own now. Nonsense, but this is what they practice every form of compulsion, as Masons are involved in, and head up every evil on this planet.


I have not committed sin.
I have not committed robbery with violence.
I have not stolen.
I have not slain men or women.
I have not stolen food.
I have not swindled offerings.
I have not stolen from God/Goddess.
I have not told lies.
I have not carried away food.
I have not cursed.
I have not closed my ears to truth.
I have not committed adultery.
I have not made anyone cry.
I have not felt sorrow without reason.
I have not assaulted anyone.
I am not deceitful.
I have not stolen anyone’s land.
I have not been an eavesdropper.
I have not falsely accused anyone.
I have not been angry without reason.
I have not seduced anyone’s wife.
I have not polluted myself.
I have not terrorized anyone.
I have not disobeyed the Law.
I have not been exclusively angry.
I have not cursed God/Goddess.
I have not behaved with violence.
I have not caused disruption of peace.
I have not acted hastily or without thought.
I have not overstepped my boundaries of concern.
I have not exaggerated my words when speaking.
I have not worked evil.
I have not used evil thoughts, words or deeds.
I have not polluted the water.
I have not spoken angrily or arrogantly.
I have not cursed anyone in thought, word or deeds.
I have not placed myself on a pedestal.
I have not stolen what belongs to God/Goddess.
I have not stolen from or disrespected the deceased.
I have not taken food from a child.
I have not acted with insolence.
I have not destroyed property belonging to God/Goddess

But I will let General Seti shoot you down since his gun has been shooting for longer than mine. I like Seti, he never misses his target.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpDLoP6pYTg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNVSNFbN2gU
Re: The Yoruba Odu. Eji Ogbe(oyinbo/whiteman). by PastorAIO: 5:30pm On Jan 22, 2016
Still no evidence. No backing. No nothing.


You talk as if you know everything about Freemasonry but you've never been initiated. You cannot even make one quotation from them.

You talk as if you know everything about Ifa/Orisha but you've just admitted that you've never been initiated neither.

Then from this Ogberi raised to the power of Ogberi position you now take it on yourself to make comparisons between the two.

You say Freemasonry is stolen Kemetic knowledge that doesn't give credit to the creators. But Freemasonry itself claims to come from Egpyt. So that is outright BS that they don't give credit.
Re: The Yoruba Odu. Eji Ogbe(oyinbo/whiteman). by KingSango(m): 3:06pm On Jan 26, 2016
PastorAIO:
Still no evidence. No backing. No nothing.


You talk as if you know everything about Freemasonry but you've never been initiated. You cannot even make one quotation from them.

You talk as if you know everything about Ifa/Orisha but you've just admitted that you've never been initiated neither.

Then from this Ogberi raised to the power of Ogberi position you now take it on yourself to make comparisons between the two.

You say Freemasonry is stolen Kemetic knowledge that doesn't give credit to the creators. But Freemasonry itself claims to come from Egpyt. So that is outright BS that they don't give credit.




General Seti says in his presentation, who is an expert of Freemasonry, that Freemasonry not only is copied Egyptian knowledge but rehashed per say by the European in the 17th. But the order is different as Freemasonry like Ogboni and Wado, guardians of African civilization, Freemasons are Knights of European civilization, sworn in by bloodobath. Mostly they ascribe to European view of that ancient knowledge, taught some truth by degree, but they most swore more. They swore and swore, commit evil for their sacrifice, and worship of Baphomet. Then upon the higher levels above 28th, according to Albert Pike, they worship Lucifer. Lucifer is European ancestral worship, they just made it a television series here in the U.S. There 's a statue of the Father of America, Pres. George Washington, sculptured sitting on a throne in a Baphomet pose, 3 up and 3 down.

Maybe in African Freemasons practice something different but here they most certainly are demon worshipers. They don't even hide or should I say only hide it in plain sight, because people are so stupid, ignorant of metaphysical knowledge and its world of adherents. But if Freemasons in Africa are the ones mostly likely responsible for the sabotage of Africa then there will be a price to pay. Just know in this day and time, there's no question its for keeps.


Love,

Sango.
Re: The Yoruba Odu. Eji Ogbe(oyinbo/whiteman). by PastorAIO: 4:03pm On Jan 26, 2016
KingSango:



General Seti says in his presentation, who is an expert of Freemasonry, that Freemasonry
Sango.

If General Seti comes to Nairaland I'll listen to what he has to say and put him right where he needs putting right. However I'm talking to you, Sango, who I believe in an autonomous human with his own mind and capable of forming his own thoughts. I hope I'm right in believing that.
I don't know what you mean that he is an expert in freemasonry. Is he a freemason? Where did he get his expertise? And you that you're following him, how do you know that he is what he claims since you are not an initiate either?

It is this dodgy basis for your posts that we first have to address and then everything else will fall into place thereafter.
Re: The Yoruba Odu. Eji Ogbe(oyinbo/whiteman). by KingSango(m): 10:07pm On Jan 26, 2016
PastorAIO:


If General Seti comes to Nairaland I'll listen to what he has to say and put him right where he needs putting right. However I'm talking to you, Sango, who I believe in an autonomous human with his own mind and capable of forming his own thoughts. I hope I'm right in believing that.
I don't know what you mean that he is an expert in freemasonry. Is he a freemason? Where did he get his expertise? And you that you're following him, how do you know that he is what he claims since you are not an initiate either?

It is this dodgy basis for your posts that we first have to address and then everything else will fall into place thereafter.

Nonsense. There's plenty of information available about Freemasonry, about Vodun and Ifa. There are no secrets in this new information age. How can we have such secrets, when it has been so much information technologically available? Anyone who takes this approach is living in the last century. Go back a 100 years, say 1916 and most people on Earth could not read or write, and were literally functionally illiterate. People knew farming and whatever their trade was but not much more. People were silent because their vocabulary was limited. When there's not a word for a thing, event, particle, equation, operation, process, it goes literally unknown to the illiterate. We live in blessed age and you're missing the boat. Just because you claim you're a Freemason doesn't mean you are one. We are online and seeing that I don't know who the hell you are. You have yet to demonstrate any refutable evidence to what General Seti I has solidly demonstrated through artifacts, pictorial proof, dates of events and writings. You're wasting my time is all I'm saying to you. And I fell for your game. I guess that's on me.


Love,

Sango.
Re: The Yoruba Odu. Eji Ogbe(oyinbo/whiteman). by PastorAIO: 11:56pm On Jan 26, 2016
I've not claimed to be a freemason.

Even in this your so called Information technology age, How do you know that all you're reading is not disinformation.

There are no secrets in this new information age.

Trust me, there are plenty of secrets even in this new information age. If there were no secrets there would be no occult fraternities.

From what you've written you seem to me to be someone who believes everything that he reads on the internet. I asked you for evidence and you ran to General Seti.

KingSango:


Nonsense. There's plenty of information available about Freemasonry, about Vodun and Ifa. There are no secrets in this new information age. How can we have such secrets, when it has been so much information technologically available? Anyone who takes this approach is living in the last century. Go back a 100 years, say 1916 and most people on Earth could not read or write, and were literally functionally illiterate. People knew farming and whatever their trade was but not much more. People were silent because their vocabulary was limited. When there's not a word for a thing, event, particle, equation, operation, process, it goes literally unknown to the illiterate. We live in blessed age and you're missing the boat. Just because you claim you're a Freemason doesn't mean you are one. We are online and seeing that I don't know who the hell you are. You have yet to demonstrate any refutable evidence to what General Seti I has solidly demonstrated through artifacts, pictorial proof, dates of events and writings. You're wasting my time is all I'm saying to you. And I fell for your game. I guess that's on me.


Love,

Sango.

Re: The Yoruba Odu. Eji Ogbe(oyinbo/whiteman). by PastorAIO: 12:13am On Jan 27, 2016
KingSango:




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNVSNFbN2gU

Go to 3:55. The guy is really stretching to make anything fit his delusion. He says a raised arm means a Square (90 degrees). Then he brings in another angle shape and calls that 90 degrees too when it is sooooo obviously not 90 degrees. I don't know how much igbo you have to smoke before you see that as 90 degrees.

Then he says because he's managed to contrive two 90 degree angles in the picture that it means the Square and Compass. Despite the fact that they are no aligned in the well known Square and compass shape.

Then I don't think the guy even knows what the Square and Compass is. He says that 'there's the Freemasonry right there, hello…' of something like that.

Any secondary school child will tell you what the Square and compass is. The square is a fixed shape for drawing a 90 degree angle, which The Compass is a adjustable shape that can be adjusted into ANY Angle.

This basic simple fact about the square and compass is obviously totally over his head.

anyway shaa… that is all I've managed to watch. I won't watch the first one because it is too long. This shorter one is so full of the inadequacies and sense of inadequacy that are fuelling your posts.

This whole thing is based on a feeling of racial inadequacy and a need to overcompensate for it. It's such a shame. There is nothing to feel inadequate about. and there is no need for ethnic hatred.
Re: The Yoruba Odu. Eji Ogbe(oyinbo/whiteman). by KingSango(m): 8:55pm On Jan 27, 2016
PastorAIO:


Go to 3:55. The guy is really stretching to make anything fit his delusion. He says a raised arm means a Square (90 degrees). Then he brings in another angle shape and calls that 90 degrees too when it is sooooo obviously not 90 degrees. I don't know how much igbo you have to smoke before you see that as 90 degrees.

Then he says because he's managed to contrive two 90 degree angles in the picture that it means the Square and Compass. Despite the fact that they are no aligned in the well known Square and compass shape.

Then I don't think the guy even knows what the Square and Compass is. He says that 'there's the Freemasonry right there, hello…' of something like that.

Any secondary school child will tell you what the Square and compass is. The square is a fixed shape for drawing a 90 degree angle, which The Compass is a adjustable shape that can be adjusted into ANY Angle.

This basic simple fact about the square and compass is obviously totally over his head.

anyway shaa… that is all I've managed to watch. I won't watch the first one because it is too long. This shorter one is so full of the inadequacies and sense of inadequacy that are fuelling your posts.

This whole thing is based on a feeling of racial inadequacy and a need to overcompensate for it. It's such a shame. There is nothing to feel inadequate about. and there is no need for ethnic hatred.


We all create certain safe and predictable ways of dealing with the world that involve some slanting of reality. In order to cope with life, and make it more tolerable, we may distort, embellish or ignore certain aspects of our environment, our feelings, or our memories. There are things we just don't want to deal with because they are too painful, we fear them, or because we may get overwhelmed by such information.

Why do people distort reality while awake? The answer is to shield the ego from disturbing information. This is a desirable and useful feature of human adaptation. When such a mechanism fails, the normal psychic boundaries, which maintain the integrity of the ego, collapse, and so does the personality of the individual. The result is often a breakdown in the form of psychosis or severe mental disturbance, such as schizophrenia. In a way, the unconscious is at the forefront of the schizophrenic's reality.
Re: The Yoruba Odu. Eji Ogbe(oyinbo/whiteman). by PastorAIO: 11:19pm On Jan 27, 2016
At least you have some understanding of what is going on. The question now is: What are you going to do about it? Your slanting of reality may make it 'safe and predictable' for the mean time but eventually the truth will catch up with you as it always does.

All this racial and ethnic hatred cannot help you my guy. spiritually it puts you out of tune with Love which I believe is the ultimate source of guidance.


KingSango:



We all create certain safe and predictable ways of dealing with the world that involve some slanting of reality. In order to cope with life, and make it more tolerable, we may distort, embellish or ignore certain aspects of our environment, our feelings, or our memories. There are things we just don't want to deal with because they are too painful, we fear them, or because we may get overwhelmed by such information.

Why do people distort reality while awake? The answer is to shield the ego from disturbing information. This is a desirable and useful feature of human adaptation. When such a mechanism fails, the normal psychic boundaries, which maintain the integrity of the ego, collapse, and so does the personality of the individual. The result is often a breakdown in the form of psychosis or severe mental disturbance, such as schizophrenia. In a way, the unconscious is at the forefront of the schizophrenic's reality.
Re: The Yoruba Odu. Eji Ogbe(oyinbo/whiteman). by KingSango(m): 5:07pm On Jan 28, 2016
PastorAIO:
At least you have some understanding of what is going on. The question now is: What are you going to do about it? Your slanting of reality may make it 'safe and predictable' for the mean time but eventually the truth will catch up with you as it always does.

All this racial and ethnic hatred cannot help you my guy. spiritually it puts you out of tune with Love which I believe is the ultimate source of guidance.




Nonsense, you're distorting reality. You're in here defending Freemasonry which is European, you're a pastor of a religion that is European, and you're telling me to love my enemy. Do you realize that we are not in your church and I'm not a member of your brainwashed congregation? Not only are you distorting what is confirmed truth but you're even obsessively compulsive at trying to get me in the same hole of silliness. You're either a fool or a traitor, either way a waste of my time.

Love,

Sango.
Re: The Yoruba Odu. Eji Ogbe(oyinbo/whiteman). by PastorAIO: 5:37pm On Jan 28, 2016
No wahala, You win


KingSango:



Nonsense, you're distorting reality. You're in here defending Freemasonry which is European, you're a pastor of a religion that is European, and you're telling me to love my enemy. Do you realize that we are not in your church and I'm not a member of your brainwashed congregation? Not only are you distorting what is confirmed truth but you're even obsessively compulsive at trying to get me in the same hole of silliness. You're either a fool or a traitor, either way a waste of my time.

Love,

Sango.

Re: The Yoruba Odu. Eji Ogbe(oyinbo/whiteman). by KingSango(m): 9:25pm On Jan 28, 2016
PastorAIO:
No wahala, You win



An egotist too! All traitors are egotists.

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