Gd day to you all,

am so shocked right now i dont know were to start.

dear nigerians in diaspora, stop sending money home for

projects unless u can physically go and see it for ursef, in short dont do it,

unless someone here has other ways of getting round it.

as some of u knw, i do money tranfer from uk to nigeria, dats how i met this lady. she transfers money

upto three times a week, from there we became friends. she later told my she was build a house in nigeria.

it got to a point i had to caution her and ask her if she trust this person, she said yes oo, he is a big man, he works for customs etc.


fast forward to last night she came to my house without invitation just banging on my door, i opened the door, without saying a word she went into my living room sat on the floor and started to cry repeating ''xxxxx has kill me''

apparently this guy helped her to buy a land, not the size they discused, instead of a full plot he bought half in a different area.

the building is suppose to be in the tiling stage only for her to find out that the man has been lying to her, showing
her picture of other pples houses and she was sending money thinking the project was progressing.

she started to suspect wen he sent her a picture and she cud see a fence at the back of it and she was asking him, he said it was a neigbour that fenced, she didnt believe it and asked a relative to go check the place. for weeks the man started to avoid her fone calls not until she threatened get the army to beat him up , then he reluctantly took the brother.

the brother took pictures and sent it to the lady and dats wen all hell broke loose.

i saw the pics for my self, i just felt sorry for the lady, the block was so red u cud tell there was no cement on it, he used ghana sink after collecting quotation for aluminium, and the roofing was half done. some of the rooms were still not roofed and the clading was undone, but he put pvc in the living room, no german floor and the size of the toilet was not upto 3ft wide.

this is a lady that has four kids, and goes from house to house making peoples hair, dats how she got this money that this man has squandered.
she was busy crying, cursing, swearing, crying again.

but wats done is done, lets be smart to avoid these type of issues.

#just buy house if u live outside the country#

A return ticket to seal transactions never hurts

Ya we know dts y u sent to ur parents or u do it urself!or pay a construction coy! Once n 4Gt all dz story

bigx:
A return ticket to seal transactions never hurts

her kids are so young, dont think she even had papers then.

so sad

uckennety:
Ya we know dts y u sent to ur parents or u do it urself!or pay a construction coy! Once n 4Gt all dz story

parents ke?

some parents cant be trusted especially if there are other children not doing so well. they will try to use u to solve the other kids problems.

construction companies with substandard jobs

bebe2:


her kids are so young, dont think she even had papers then.

so sad

People are wicked, the ones in front of you want to cheat you talk less of long distance.

bigx:



People are wicked, the ones in front of you want to cheat you talk less of long distance.

if she even had the money now i will say start again, she is in her late 40s, no better job, dont know if she will ever recover from this.

Does she not ve village people's number

Make she call asap before madness finish for store.

This is why I have trust issues ...God aint sleeping ..It's well with her

I am just short of words..4 Children's wow

amuokuko:
Does she not ve village people's number

Make she call asap before madness finish for store.

pls dont make me laugh, she is cursing and swearing na, wat gud will dat do?

even threatning to go naked swear for four junction

give her one week and she wud have come to terms with the situation.

life goes on.

Realone92:
This is why I have trust issues ...God aint sleeping ..It's well with her


I am just short of words..4 Children's wow

amen oo

bebe2:


parents ke?

some parents cant be trusted especially if there are other children not doing so well. they will try to use u to solve the other kids problems.

construction companies with substandard jobs

Nooooo Google dia er standard coys but d price no b bEans!

So sad tell her to take heart you hear, its not the end of the world.

bebe2:
Gd day to you all,

am so shocked right now i dont know were to start.

dear nigerians in diaspora, stop sending money home for

projects unless u can physically go and see it for ursef, in short dont do it,

unless someone here has other ways of getting round it.

as some of u knw, i do money tranfer from uk to nigeria, dats how i met this lady. she transfers money

upto three times a week, from there we became friends. she later told my she was build a house in nigeria.

it got to a point i had to caution her and ask her if she trust this person, she said yes oo, he is a big man, he works for customs etc.


fast forward to last night she came to my house without invitation just banging on my door, i opened the door, without saying a word she went into my living room sat on the floor and started to cry repeating ''xxxxx has kill me''

apparently this guy helped her to buy a land, not the size they discused, instead of a full plot he bought half in a different area.

the building is suppose to be in the tiling stage only for her to find out that the man has been lying to her, showing
her picture of other pples houses and she was sending money thinking the project was progressing.

she started to suspect wen he sent her a picture and she cud see a fence at the back of it and she was asking him, he said it was a neigbour that fenced, she didnt believe it and asked a relative to go check the place. for weeks the man started to avoid her fone calls not until she threatened get the army to beat him up , then he reluctantly took the brother.

the brother took pictures and sent it to the lady and dats wen all hell broke loose.

i saw the pics for my self, i just felt sorry for the lady, the block was so red u cud tell there was no cement on it, he used ghana sink after collecting quotation for aluminium, and the roofing was half done. some of the rooms were still not roofed and the clading was undone, but he put pvc in the living room, no german floor and the size of the toilet was not upto 3ft wide.

this is a lady that has four kids, and goes from house to house making peoples hair, dats how she got this money that this man has squandered.
she was busy crying, cursing, swearing, crying again.

but wats done is done, lets be smart to avoid these type of issues.

#just buy house if u live outside the country#

I'm very calculated and cautious with anything that goes on in my site while I'm not there. I don't care if my build takes me 5 years to complete, it will be at my pace and control.

In fact, some asshats on here regurgitated that I was struggling for money to build a bungalow

You can still build instead of buying but with one eye open.

EgunMogaji:


I'm very calculated and cautious with anything that goes on in my site while I'm not there. I don't care if my build takes me 5 years to complete, it will be at my pace and control.

In fact, some asshats on here regurgitated that I was struggling for money to build a bungalow

You can still build instead of buying but with one eye open.

so if u live abroad, and trying to build a block of six flats, do knw how many times u will have to go to naija before the project finish?

and u can even be there and they are robbing u. while u dey check up on electrician, plasterer don bury 2bags of cement for ground

bebe2:


so if u live abroad, and trying to build a block of six flats, do knw how many times u will have to go to naija before the project finish?

and u can even be there and they are robbing u. while u dey check up on electrician, plasterer don bury 2bags of cement for ground

I'll go as many times as it takes, if I'm building a commercial investment.

I'm not silly enough to assume that I'm not being ripped off by not being onsite or that they won't rip me off if I'm right there. I'm reasonable.

Just don't over do it by doing nastiness like buying the wrong size plot in the wrong location which will NEVER happen to me because I'll be there with a Lawyer and a Surveyor.

It takes money to make money, so yes I'll come home as much as needed.

I live in California and I come how 2 to 3 times a year and all I'm building is a padlock chicken wire coop

EgunMogaji:


I'll go as many times as it takes, if I'm building a commercial investment.

I'm not silly enough to assume that I'm not being ripped off by not being onsite or that they won't rip me off if I'm right there. I'm reasonable.

Just don't over do it by doing nastiness like buying the wrong size plot in the wrong location which will NEVER happen to me because I'll be there with a Lawyer and a Surveyor.

It takes money to make money, so yes I'll come home as much as needed.

I live in California and I come how 2 to 3 times a year and all I'm building is a padlock chicken wire coop

lol@ padlock chicken wire coop

its easy for man sha,

i would love to go home at least 4times a year, i live in london so am closer.

but wat happens to the kids and ogas work.

i love building but all this pple have put me off it.

bebe2:


lol@ padlock chicken wire coop

its easy for man sha,

i would love to go home at least 4times a year, i live in london so am closer.

but wat happens to the kids and ogas work.

i love building but all this pple have put me off it.

I hear you madam, it's not easy for us men too.

I would rather be using this three weeks vacation in Waikiki instead of on a hot and dusty site but e get as e be.

I'll also rather apply the transportation cost of around $5,000 towards my build instead of coming home.

Buy or build we just have to pray for gods guidance sha.

Last year (2015) alone, we successfully handled a commercial building project for an Ogun-state born client based in Spain and had a couple of offers from several Nigerians living in the diaspora which are still in the pipeline.

Usually, we would require such clients to assign a rep (who could be a trusted family member, friend or even a police officer resident within the area) to us to constantly monitor the progress of work on their behalf and feed back. We normally send daily updates directly to our clients via whatsapp or e-mails.

We don't connive with the client's rep in anyway, neither do we allow undue interference in the design/construction process by the rep especially as it affects technical or financial issues except if the rep also doubles as a relevant professional.

#UseTrustedProfessionals

Engr. Osaz
Heavens Design-Build Contractors Ltd
08167394799

jeftalene:
Last year (2015) alone, we successfully handled a commercial building project for an Ogun-state born client based in Spain and had a couple of offers from several Nigerians living in the diaspora which are still in the pipeline.

Usually, we would require such clients to assign a rep (who could be a trusted family member, friend or even a police officer resident within the area) to us to constantly monitor the progress of work on their behalf and feed back. We normally send daily updates directly to our clients via whatsapp or e-mails.

We don't connive with the client's rep in anyway, neither do we allow undue interference in the design/construction process by the rep especially as it affects technical or financial issues except if the rep also doubles as a relevant professional.

#UseTrustedProfessionals

Engr. Osaz
Heavens Design-Build Contractors Ltd
08167394799

Weldone.

As big as nairaland, and as popular as the property section, there is no one reputable builder or agent that can be vouched for by other nairalanders the have worked for.

I tried buying a land a few weeks ago and agents kept offering me all sorts. But wen u try to ask pple privately about the particular agent they quickly disassociate them themselves from the agent.

One very popular agent here even tried to pass on a got land to another nairalander. He made the checks and confronted the agent. And he said he accidentally sent the wrong documents

bebe2:


Weldone.

As big as nairaland, and as popular as the property section, there is no one reputable builder or agent that can be vouched for by other nairalanders the have worked for.

I tried buying a land a few weeks ago and agents kept offering me all sorts. But wen u try to ask pple privately about the particular agent they quickly disassociate them themselves from the agent.

One very popular agent here even tried to pass on a got land to another nairalander. He made the checks and confronted the agent. And he said he accidentally sent the wrong documents

I don't know about that Madam.

At least Spyder880 I'll entrust with millions to build me a house if I can afford his services.

People living in diaspora nd complaining about being reap off u check themself too, naija is not yet bad to that level, if u ursef is not a bad person.
I live in America nd I av acquired properties through friends nd family.
Last year March I saw an advet of a land on dis nairaland nd got in touch wit d seller on watsapp nd after negotiation I caled a friend to verify nd now d house is almost completed.
I came home wen it was at lintel level nd a friend is supervising d project nd everything is going on fine.
Two months ago it was on this same nairaland that I saw advert for Borehole drilling nd I contacted them on watsapp nd after negotiation I got in touch wit a friend to handle it nd now there is water on d property.
One tin I do is any day they are working I make sure iu must send me reports imidiately wit pics so I must see how tons are going nd I even hav people that wil go later to see wat they have done.
Though it cost money but if u ursef us not a bad person u wil always have people u can trust to make things happen for u.
U can't trust ur families u can't trust ur friends, abaa check ursef.
One thing is don't send huge money at once send in bits nd don't be in a rush to finish d projects.
Send money for foundation nd make sure u see wat they do in pics before u giv another money for German floor in that case if they d not do it or not do it well u wil not lose much nd u quickly change d person.
But be ready to spend more than d person in naija.

babamajor:
People living in diaspora nd complaining about being reap off u check themself too, naija is not yet bad to that level, if u ursef is not a bad person.
I live in America nd I av acquired properties through friends nd family.
Last year March I saw an advet of a land on dis nairaland nd got in touch wit d seller on watsapp nd after negotiation I caled a friend to verify nd now d house is almost completed.
I came home wen it was at lintel level nd a friend is supervising d project nd everything is going on fine.
Two months ago it was on this same nairaland that I saw advert for Borehole drilling nd I contacted them on watsapp nd after negotiation I got in touch wit a friend to handle it nd now there is water on d property.
One tin I do is any day they are working I make sure iu must send me reports imidiately wit pics so I must see how tons are going nd I even hav people that wil go later to see wat they have done.
Though it cost money but if u ursef us not a bad person u wil always have people u can trust to make things happen for u.
U can't trust ur families u can't trust ur friends, abaa check ursef.
One thing is don't send huge money at once send in bits nd don't be in a rush to finish d projects.
Send money for foundation nd make sure u see wat they do in pics before u giv another money for German floor in that case if they d not do it or not do it well u wil not lose much nd u quickly change d person.
But be ready to spend more than d person in naija.

Okay, so those that got scammed are bad people and brought it onto themselves.

Got it

babamajor:
People living in diaspora nd complaining about being reap off u check themself too, naija is not yet bad to that level, if u ursef is not a bad person.
I live in America nd I av acquired properties through friends nd family.
Last year March I saw an advet of a land on dis nairaland nd got in touch wit d seller on watsapp nd after negotiation I caled a friend to verify nd now d house is almost completed.
I came home wen it was at lintel level nd a friend is supervising d project nd everything is going on fine.
Two months ago it was on this same nairaland that I saw advert for Borehole drilling nd I contacted them on watsapp nd after negotiation I got in touch wit a friend to handle it nd now there is water on d property.
One tin I do is any day they are working I make sure iu must send me reports imidiately wit pics so I must see how tons are going nd I even hav people that wil go later to see wat they have done.
Though it cost money but if u ursef us not a bad person u wil always have people u can trust to make things happen for u.
U can't trust ur families u can't trust ur friends, abaa check ursef.
One thing is don't send huge money at once send in bits nd don't be in a rush to finish d projects.
Send money for foundation nd make sure u see wat they do in pics before u giv another money for German floor in that case if they d not do it or not do it well u wil not lose much nd u quickly change d person.
But be ready to spend more than d person in naija.

You are right. I bought my land through a relative I trust, I used the services of the lawyer here on nairaland, I have also used the services of a nairalander to draw the plan but my relative monitored everything. When work goes on on site I get sent both pictures and videos. Sometimes things like this there is a bit of luck. I'm sure we all must have a friend or relative we can trust with such things. I don't think Nigeria is that bad.

bebe2:


Weldone.

As big as nairaland, and as popular as the property section, there is no one reputable builder or agent that can be vouched for by other nairalanders the have worked for.

I tried buying a land a few weeks ago and agents kept offering me all sorts. But wen u try to ask pple privately about the particular agent they quickly disassociate them themselves from the agent.

One very popular agent here even tried to pass on a got land to another nairalander. He made the checks and confronted the agent. And he said he accidentally sent the wrong documents

Ideally, before engaging anyone on your project or property deal, it is important to observe due diligence whether you find them on Nairaland or elsewhere.
That is why we always advise diaspora clients to assign a known trusted agent to us for the purpose of monitoring. Some Client based in Lagos have properties to develop in Abuja or elsewhere but due to their very tight schedule maybe unable to do regular checks. With a neighbour in the site area as your eye on the project, it isn't a bad idea.

Most of our Clients didn't get my contact from Nairaland but from the most popular property/lifestyle magazine -Castles being one of the columnists on Layman Builder section of the mag, yet I do insist they assign a rep in order to boost their trust and confidence in the process.

It may interest you to know that I never met some of these people throughout the duration of the project. Only hear their voices over the phone, their pics on whatsapp dp and saw their full names appear on transaction details during project cash flows.

#UseTrustedProfessionals

I gave a pastor money for roofing after chasing away and bad-mouthing me in front of several nairaland contractors dat I employed to work. He remove 50k from the money I sent himfor roofing later to tell me money is not enough when he called me at work. i had to borrow to complete the fund. Upon that he said I owed him 20k for a completed roof 2week later. I over paid almost 100,000 in excess but I considered it charity.

Chicken coop is not easy to build in naija, but a mansion is......


bebe which side you dey o...... I be wan send money and may need consolation afterwards

ricki:


I gave a pastor money for roofing after chasing away and bad-mouthing me in front of several nairaland contractors dat I employed to work. He remove 50k from the money I sent himfor roofing later to tell me money is not enough when he called me at work. i had to borrow to complete the fund. Upon that he said I owed him 20k for a completed roof 2week later. I over paid almost 100,000 in excess but I considered it charity.

Chicken coop is not easy to build in naija, but a mansion is......


bebe which side you dey o...... I be wan send money and may need consolation afterwards

My brother, no start pastor own ooo,

After one dealt with my frd in sang ota, my frd almost ran mad.

He was also building his own plot with my frds money wen my frd heard rumours and stoped using him, he called her begging for money to roof his father's house in the village that the roof fell during a windstorm.

Wen my frd refused come and see insults on the phone.
He was sending abusive text and swearing for my frd.

Bro am in Manchester. U can call my number it's on my profile.

I have received thousands of naira from people abroad without any issues.. God will continue to bless those who trust us anyway..

dont generalize Ma.. we are not all bad

ya right indeed.......

twinskenny:
I have received thousands of naira from people abroad without any issues.. God will continue to bless those who trust us anyway..

dont generalize Ma.. we are not all bad

Thank God for u but u are in the minority.

It's getting too much.

Most pple have sorry tales to tell especially wen it comes to building. It's either they don't build at all or they use substandard materials.

bebe2:

Thank God for u but u are in the minority.

It's getting too much.

Most pple have sorry tales to tell especially wen it comes to building. It's either they don't build at all or they use substandard materials.

Many folks i have read about here and that use NL builders are in Diaspora. I would'nt make such a sweeping comment you made in your intro. What you should advice people is to do due diligence before committing to a builder and releasing money to him/her. I used somebody on this forum, have never met him in person but was over 80% satisfied with what he did for me.

Onuokwu:


Many folks i have read about here and that use NL builders are in Diaspora. I would'nt make such a sweeping comment you made in your intro. What you should advice people is to do due diligence before committing to a builder and releasing money to him/her. I used somebody on this forum, have never met him in person but was over 80% satisfied with what he did for me.

Yea, I understand I generalised my comment that was to show the gravity of the issue.

Majority of builders here have had issues with clients they met here . A thread was opened on this issue before.

And this seem to be swept under the carpet because Nigerians like to leave issues for God to settle.

If pple decide to complain here about the negative experience they have had u wud be surprised . It was here only a few weeks ago that an agent tried to sell a govt land to a fellow nairn lander. She did not report it and that agent will eventually get a victim.