A lot has been said about this Great And Supernatural Teacher Of All Ages Leader Olumba Olumba Obu And His Holiness Olumba Olumba Obu. Some call Him Anti-Christ, Beelzebub, Fish, Juju Man, Wizard etc.

But who is Olumba Olumba Obu? Though the Name Olumba Olumba Obu was not written in the Bible but did the Bible talked about Him?

This thread is a debate thread based on what the Bible says.

In Daniel 2:44 the Bible says

And in the days of these
kings shall the God of heaven
set up a kingdom, which
shall never be destroyed: and
the kingdom shall not be left
to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume
all these kingdoms, and it
shall stand for ever.

If the above prophecy was real, then it means that God Almighty will come down on earth to establish His Kingdom. It also means that the world will not come to an end before God come down to establish His kingdom on earth, dwell with man and be served by man. That means humanity should expect to have their Creator living among them as a human being.

It was God's original plan to dwell with man here on earth but sin became the barrier. But in His wisdom and mercies for mankind, He sent His Son to redeem us with His blood through death on the cross.

Our Lord Jesus Christ as King of Kings and Lord of Lords but as a servant to pay the ultimate prize for the redemption of the whole creation. On the cross He declared IT IS FINISHED which means it is done, the prize has been paid. Anyone who believes is saved.

Our Lord Jesus Christ promised that the Holy Spirit will come after He ascension into heaven. The coming of the Holy Spirit on earth is the manifestation of God Almighty in human form just as Daniel prophecied in chapter 7. His manifestation will not be in an invisible form but He will come in human form just as Our Lord Jesus Christ has been invisible as the Word even though everything were created by Him.

The same way the Word became human so will the Holy Spirit manifest in human form for Him to be able to relate well with men He must become a man and must have a name.

He manifested in human form in 1918 after the revelations were given to the Lady of Fatima of Catholic Church, Prophetess Otom and Prophet Enun Nkpa. His physical manifestation in the land of Biakpan in Biase LGA of Cross River State with the OLUMBA OLUMBA OBU.

If u have any question u are free to ask.


N/B: I will not response to any question that is abusive

Are you his follower.......?

iyamchee:
Are you his follower.......?

Not just His follower but i am the work of His hands.
He is my God and Creator!

This will be interesting.


Make I charge phone before malachy off gen

Leader Olumba Olumba Obu And His Holiness Olumba Olumba Obu. Are these two separate persons?
Why 1918, is that a prophecy known only to lady Fatima

DeCleff:
A lot has been said about this Great And Supernatural Teacher Of All Ages Leader Olumba Olumba Obu And His Holiness Olumba Olumba Obu. Some call Him Anti-Christ, Beelzebub, Fish, Juju Man, Wizard etc.

But who is Olumba Olumba Obu? Though the Name Olumba Olumba Obu was not written in the Bible but did the Bible talked about Him?

This thread is a debate thread based on what the Bible says.

In Daniel 2:44 the Bible says

And in the days of these
kings shall the God of heaven
set up a kingdom, which
shall never be destroyed: and
the kingdom shall not be left
to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume
all these kingdoms, and it
shall stand for ever.

If the above prophecy was real, then it means that God Almighty will come down on earth to establish His Kingdom. It also means that the world will not come to an end before God come down to establish His kingdom on earth, dwell with man and be served by man. That means humanity should expect to have their Creator living among them as a human being.

It was God's original plan to dwell with man here on earth but sin became the barrier. But in His wisdom and mercies for mankind, He sent His Son to redeem us with His blood through death on the cross.

Our Lord Jesus Christ as King of Kings and Lord of Lords but as a servant to pay the ultimate prize for the redemption of the whole creation. On the cross He declared IT IS FINISHED which means it is done, the prize has been paid. Anyone who believes is saved.

Our Lord Jesus Christ promised that the Holy Spirit will come after He ascension into heaven. The coming of the Holy Spirit on earth is the manifestation of God Almighty in human form just as Daniel prophecied in chapter 7. His manifestation will not be in an invisible form but He will come in human form just as Our Lord Jesus Christ has been invisible as the Word even though everything were created by Him.

The same way the Word became human so will the Holy Spirit manifest in human form for Him to be able to relate well with men He must become a man and must have a name.

He manifested in human form in 1918 after the revelations were given to the Lady of Fatima of Catholic Church, Prophetess Otom and Prophet Enun Nkpa. His physical manifestation in the land of Biakpan in Biase LGA of Cross River State with the OLUMBA OLUMBA OBU.

If u have any question u are free to ask.


N/B: I will not response to any question that is abusive

The kingdom that would be set up is the Messianic kingdom that would crush the Antichristian world powers that existing at the time of the end. You are right when you said the kingdom would be established on earth, but before that, the Roman Empire would be revived as the Antichristian kingdom of the last days. The verse you quoted from is regarding the king Nebuchadnezzar's dream of a great image. The image symbolises successive world powers that would end up in a final empire which would mingle with other kingdoms. The verse you quoted has nothing to do with Olumba or BCS. Did you even read the chapter from the beginning? The arrival of the Holy Spirit took place on the day of Pentecost and will be poured out in the last days upon all flesh as Joel the prophet noted. Holy Spirit is invisible and is God's active force and not a man, so Olumba is out of the picture. Go on! Quote more verses and let me pull you from your ignorance.

DeCleff:

Not just His follower but i am the work of His hands.
He is my God and Creator!

OOO is your creator??........guy what did he do to ya? oh!! poor soul!!

Can Olumba die? It looks to me like age is catching up with him. Will he die? Am sorry to disappoint you but he will, like any other men, which he is.

The Holy Spirit is a Spirit. He came on earth
On the day of Pentecostal, and is the Spirit of God. We do not need a man of flesh to play his part. Am used to false Christs. A false Holy Spirit is just odd.

Just for claiming to be the Spirit of God, your man is a lier, and you should run before the time of his destruction, and you be found together.

Mat 24:23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

Let's interpret the above to include the Holy Spirit.

If you will worship him, then he is a god like any other idol of men. Not the Almighty God. Am sure there will still be crazy people who won't mind that.

themall:
Leader Olumba Olumba Obu And His Holiness Olumba Olumba Obu. Are these two separate persons?
Why 1918, is that a prophecy known only to lady Fatima

The Godhead is made up of The Father, Son And Holy Spirit. The manifestation of the Word/Son in human form over 2000 years ago was to break the barrier(sin) between man and GodHead or United Trinity.

After the sacrificial death on the cross, resurrection and ascension, the way became open for the Ancient of Days (The Holy Spirit and Father) who has been one earth even before creation as an invisible being though He has revealed Himself in human form to Abraham and Joshua to come down on earth to establish His kingdom..

In Daniel 7:9-10 the says

9 I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as
burning fire.

10 A fiery stream issued and came forth from before him:
thousand thousands
ministered unto him, and ten
thousand times ten thousand
stood before him: the
judgment was set, and the books were opened.

The above scriptures stated clearly that the Ancient of Days who is the Almighty God and Holy Spirit ( John 4:24) came down on earth just as Daniel 2:44 predicted. That Ancient of Days who is the Promised Comforter is Leader Olumba Olumba Obu who came to establish the New Kingdom Of God known as Brotherhood Of The Cross And Star. Brotherhood means God and all His creations. Cross means God and the work of redemption and Star means God and the beauty/glory of Christ who is Our Bright and Morning Star.

Leader Olumba Olumba Obu, the Holy Spirit/Comforter did not come to glorify Himself but to glorify the Lamb, Our Lord Jesus Christ. He devoted Himself to teach and preach about Christ.

In Daniel 7:13-14 the Bible says

13 I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son
of man came with the clouds
of heaven, and came to the
Ancient of days, and they
brought him near before
him.

14 And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a
kingdom, that all people,
nations, and languages,
should serve him: his
dominion is an everlasting
dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom
that which shall not be
destroyed.

The above scriptures also stated that Son of man (Christ) was brought before the Ancient of Days ( Holy Spirit/Comforter) to be glorified. That means the Father and the Son manifested physically on earth.

The Son is His Holiness Olumba Olumba Obu.

That prophecies were not only reveled to thew Lady of Fatima but also Prophetess Otom and Prophet Enun Nkpa

DeCleff:


The Godhead is made up of The Father, Son And Holy Spirit. The manifestation of the Word/Son in human form over 2000 years ago was to break the barrier(sin) between man and GodHead or United Trinity.

After the sacrificial death on the cross, resurrection and ascension, the way became open for the Ancient of Days (The Holy Spirit and Father) who has been one earth even before creation as an invisible being though He has revealed Himself in human form to Abraham and Joshua to come down on earth to establish His kingdom..

In Daniel 7:9-10 the says

9 I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as
burning fire.

10 A fiery stream issued and came forth from before him:
thousand thousands
ministered unto him, and ten
thousand times ten thousand
stood before him: the
judgment was set, and the books were opened.

The above scriptures stated clearly that the Ancient of Days who is the Almighty God and Holy Spirit ( John 4:24) came down on earth just as Daniel 2:44 predicted. That Ancient of Days who is the Promised Comforter is Leader Olumba Olumba Obu who came to establish the New Kingdom Of God known as Brotherhood Of The Cross And Star. Brotherhood means God and all His creations. Cross means God and the work of redemption and Star means God and the beauty/glory of Christ who is Our Bright and Morning Star.

Leader Olumba Olumba Obu, the Holy Spirit/Comforter did not come to glorify Himself but to glorify the Lamb, Our Lord Jesus Christ. He devoted Himself to teach and preach about Christ.

In Daniel 7:13-14 the Bible says

13 I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son
of man came with the clouds
of heaven, and came to the
Ancient of days, and they
brought him near before
him.

14 And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a
kingdom, that all people,
nations, and languages,
should serve him: his
dominion is an everlasting
dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom
that which shall not be
destroyed.

The above scriptures also stated that Son of man (Christ) was brought before the Ancient of Days ( Holy Spirit/Comforter) to be glorified. That means the Father and the Son manifested physically on earth.

The Son is His Holiness Olumba Olumba Obu.

That prophecies were not only reveled to thew Lady of Fatima but also Prophetess Otom and Prophet Enun Nkpa

Your quote does not even match with your prophecy. You did not even quote from the beginning of Daniel 7 to see that the Son of Man referred to will only arrive after the final Antichristian kingdom is set up. And Daniel 2 does not even correspond with Olumba at all. Olumba is not God let alone being "a god" he will die like all mortals. He is not God, he was not God and he will never be God. You were meant to debate with me but you seem to be avoidimg me.

lordnicklaus:





The kingdom that would be set up is the Messianic kingdom that would crush the Antichristian world powers that existing at the time of the end. You are right when you said the kingdom would be established on earth, but before that, the Roman Empire would be revived as the Antichristian kingdom of the last days. The verse you quoted from is regarding the king Nebuchadnezzar's dream of a great image. The image symbolises successive world powers that would end up in a final empire which would mingle with other kingdoms. The verse you quoted has nothing to do with Olumba or BCS. Did you even read the chapter from the beginning? The arrival of the Holy Spirit took place on the day of Pentecost and will be poured out in the last days upon all flesh as Joel the prophet noted. Holy Spirit is invisible and is God's active force and not a man, so Olumba is out of the picture. Go on! Quote more verses and let me pull you from your ignorance.

I read the whole chapter and that God decided to use the Nebuchadnezzar's dream to foretell what He will do, are u to question Him?

Will the establishment of the kingdom be on the last days? Are we not in the last days? Didn't u read that the earthly govts/kings will still be in power as God establishes His kingdom?

Its funny how u concluded that the empowerment of the Apostles to carry out their Apostolic mandate by the Holy Spirit on the Pentecost day was the arrival of the Promised Comforter.

Are u saying that the prophets of old who proclaimed God's word functioned with a different Holy Spirit? Was Elizabeth, mother of John the Baptist not filled with the Holy Spirit even before Christ was born? Who is the Sustainer of the universe?

If u agree with me that we have one Holy Spirit, then u have to also agree with me that He was on earth before creation and the Sustainer of all creation. Therefore, He has never left the earth because that is all satan needed to end the end in a just blink of an eye and the all-knowing God will not make such mistake. Think about Job and what happened to him after the Holy Spirit gave satan opportunity to torment him.

Even David prayed in Psalm 51 that God should not take away the Holy Spirit from him.

If the Holy Spirit has never left the earth as an Invisible Being, what do u think Christ meant when He said the Comforter/Holy Spirit will come?

iyamchee:


OOO is your creator??........guy what did he do to ya? oh!! poor soul!!

Oh precious found soul, Olumba Olumba Obu is everything to me and i am happy this way

There is nothing you guys do, or say to Decleff that will make him turn around. He is but one of the captives of OOO. You can only pray for him

Muafrika2:
Can Olumba die? It looks to me like age is catching up with him. Will he die? Am sorry to disappoint you but he will, like any other men, which he is.

The Holy Spirit is a Spirit. He came on earth
On the day of Pentecostal, and is the Spirit of God. We do not need a man of flesh to play his part. Am used to false Christs. A false Holy Spirit is just odd.

Just for claiming to be the Spirit of God, your man is a lier, and you should run before the time of his destruction, and you be found together.

Mat 24:23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

Let's interpret the above to include the Holy Spirit.

If you will worship him, then he is a god like any other idol of men. Not the Almighty God. Am sure there will still be crazy people who won't mind that.

Read my response on the Holy Spirit and answer my questions

Marvel1206:
There is nothing you guys do, or say to Decleff that will make him turn around. He is but one of the captives of OOO. You can only pray for him

U are right my friend because nobody can take me out of the Father s hands.

John 10:29
My Father, which gave them
me, is greater than all; and
no man is able to pluck them
out of my Father's hand.

Thanks

lordnicklaus:





Your quote does not even match with your prophecy. You did not even quote from the beginning of Daniel 7 to see that the Son of Man referred to will only arrive after the final Antichristian kingdom is set up. And Daniel 2 does not even correspond with Olumba at all. Olumba is not God let alone being "a god" he will die like all mortals. He is not God, he was not God and he will never be God. You were meant to debate with me but you seem to be avoidimg me.

How can u say that the Son of man will arrive at the final day when it was clearly stated that the earthly govts were still in place when He arrived? U have already concluded that Olumba is not God therefore u can t see or understand what the Bible says.

Read Daniel 7 and seek undertanding of it.

DeCleff:


U are right my friend because nobody can take me out of the Father s hands.

John 10:29
My Father, which gave them
me, is greater than all; and
no man is able to pluck them
out of my Father's hand.

Thanks

and while you are being prayed for, pray for yourself

He is not God, nor Heavenly father, Nor jesus, Nor holy spirit, Nor righteous.
I have watched video clips of olumba and nothing seems right.
May your eyes be opened. Amen

DeCleff:


How can u say that the Son of man will arrive at the final day when it was clearly stated that the earthly govts were still in place when He arrived? U have already concluded that Olumba is not God therefore u can t see or understand what the Bible says.

Read Daniel 7 and seek undertanding of it.

The beasts symbolise the four greatest Gentile kingdoms. Your interpretation is erroneous. Orthodox Theology does not even agree with your view. The final beast will be destroyed at the coming of Christ and if Olumba is Christ, then the kingdom of Antichrist will be revealed and destroyed. I will take time to explain the kingdoms represented by each beast.


1. The Lion with wings: The lion with wings represents the Babylonian empire and the two wings represent its greatest kings; Nebuchadnezzar and Belshazzar. The lion was made to stand like a man and it was given a human reasoning. The prophecy represents the taming of Babylon by God who used the next empire to fulfill His wish. Infact a lion with wings was the emblem of ancient Babylon just as the Coat of Arms is an emblem of Nigeria.

2. The bear with ribs in its mouth: The bear represents the empire of Media and Persia. The three ribs in its mouth symbolises the former conquered empires of Babylonia, Assyria an Egypt. A bear was the most common animal in the forests of Media and Persia and so was used to symbolise the kingdom. The bear was raised to one side symbolising the conquest of the empire which was focused on one direction. Refer to the portion of Daniel 7 to verify.

3. The four-headed winged leopard: This beast symbolises the empire of Greece. The four wings represent the four generals of Alexander the Great, the king of Greece. His generals included; Lysimachus, Cassander, Seleucus and Ptolemy. The four heads of the leopard symbolises the four kingdoms in which the empire was divided into after the death of Alexander. The kingdoms included; the Lysimachian kingdom, the Seleucid kingdom, the Ptolemaic kingdom and the Cassaderian kingdom. A leopard was used to represent the empire due to the swiftness of the kingdom. It conquered Media and Persia like lightning with just a few men.



4. The terrible unknown beast: The fourth beast is terrible with iron teeth and ten horns.

The beast symbolises the final empire; Rome. The ten horns stand for the ten European nations which formed the Roman empire. Daniel the prophet saw a horn growing from the beast and three horns fell before it. The horn made war with the saints and boasted against God's saint. The horn symbolises the Antichrist kingdom to arise out of Rome in the last days. This kingdom will be set up before Christ arrives. The Roman Empire is not strong as at now. It is now in its Political form and not its Imperial form. John the Apostle noted in his symbolic vision of the beast that the empire would be revived (Revelation 13:3) and that world governments would be united with the beast.


All this are to take place before God will set up His kingdom. So, all those prophecies are not completely fulfilled. If they are fulfilled, then Christ will return. So, your Olumba is a false christ cos' major prophecies to take place before Christ returns are not yet fulfilled.

Marvel1206:

and while you are being prayed for, pray for yourself
He is not God, nor Heavenly father, Nor jesus, Nor holy spirit, Nor righteous. I have watched video clips of olumba and nothing seems right. May your eyes be opened. Amen

He is my God and Father

lordnicklaus:







The beasts symbolise the four greatest Gentile kingdoms. Your interpretation is erroneous. Orthodox Theology does not even agree with your view. The final beast will be destroyed at the coming of Christ and if Olumba is Christ, then the kingdom of Antichrist will be revealed and destroyed. I will take time to explain the kingdoms represented by each beast.


1. The Lion with wings: The lion with wings represents the Babylonian empire and the two wings represent its greatest kings; Nebuchadnezzar and Belshazzar. The lion was made to stand like a man and it was given a human reasoning. The prophecy represents the taming of Babylon by God who used the next empire to fulfill His wish. Infact a lion with wings was the emblem of ancient Babylon just as the Coat of Arms is an emblem of Nigeria.

2. The bear with ribs in its mouth: The bear represents the empire of Media and Persia. The three ribs in its mouth symbolises the former conquered empires of Babylonia, Assyria an Egypt. A bear was the most common animal in the forests of Media and Persia and so was used to symbolise the kingdom. The bear was raised to one side symbolising the conquest of the empire which was focused on one direction. Refer to the portion of Daniel 7 to verify.

3. The four-headed winged leopard: This beast symbolises the empire of Greece. The four wings represent the four generals of Alexander the Great, the king of Greece. His generals included; Lysimachus, Cassander, Seleucus and Ptolemy. The four heads of the leopard symbolises the four kingdoms in which the empire was divided into after the death of Alexander. The kingdoms included; the Lysimachian kingdom, the Seleucid kingdom, the Ptolemaic kingdom and the Cassaderian kingdom. A leopard was used to represent the empire due to the swiftness of the kingdom. It conquered Media and Persia like lightning with just a few men.



4. The terrible unknown beast: The fourth beast is terrible with iron teeth and ten horns.

The beast symbolises the final empire; Rome. The ten horns stand for the ten European nations which formed the Roman empire. Daniel the prophet saw a horn growing from the beast and three horns fell before it. The horn made war with the saints and boasted against God's saint. The horn symbolises the Antichrist kingdom to arise out of Rome in the last days. This kingdom will be set up before Christ arrives. The Roman Empire is not strong as at now. It is now in its Political form and not its Imperial form. John the Apostle noted in his symbolic vision of the beast that the empire would be revived (Revelation 13:3) and that world governments would be united with the beast.


All this are to take place before God will set up His kingdom. So, all those prophecies are not completely fulfilled. If they are fulfilled, then Christ will return. So, your Olumba is a false christ cos' major prophecies to take place before Christ returns are not yet fulfilled.

So the anti christ kingom has not been revealed with all evils happening arou?

Now, if the beasts are past gentiles kings, where is the Ancient of Days? He should be around by now.

Answer my questions about the Joly Spirit above

I will quote another bible verse to show that the Antichrist's kingdom is to be set up before Christ returns.



"Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus the Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you not to be shaken in mind or troubled either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of Christ had come. Let no man deceive you by any means for that Day will not come unless an apostasy comes first and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in God's temple, showing himself that he is God" - 2 Thessalonians 2:1-4

PROPHETESS OTOM REVELATIONS.


Though the Bible did mention His Name but we must that not everything God did was recorded in the Bivle but whenever God wants to do something, He always reveal it to someone.


Amos 3:7 says; Surely the Lord
God will do nothing, but He
revealeth His secrets to His
servants the prophets.

With the above scripture i humbly introduce to you one of those servants of God by name
Prophetess Otom: a native of
Biakpan in Biase L.G.A of Cross
River state,

Nigeria. Prophetess Otom the visioner, was the daughter of Onun Ogim Eleh. She was married to Onun Eggan Otim Oshim.

The carnage was not a successful one because Prophetess Otom had protested from the initial
stage, that she would not like
to be given in marriage to
anyone. She felt that marriage,
wth all its attendant problems
and committments would seriously affect her spiritual
power.

Her protest against her
marriage to Onun Eggan Otim
Oshim was against the wishes
of her parents, and they
showed their displeasure Through persuasion, a
compromise was reached, and
the marriage was contracted.
For many years there was no
issue because of her refusal to
be intimate with her husband.

After much pressure from her
husband for intimacy the
prophetess threatened a
divorce to enable her serve her
God with devotion. The threat
brought prolonged argument between husband and wife for
days. This again, was partially
settled by the parents of both
parties in a befitting
traditional manner.

DeCleff:


So the anti christ kingom has not been revealed with all evils happening arou?

Now, if the beasts are past gentiles kings, where is the Ancient of Days? He should be around by now.

Answer my questions about the Joly Spirit above

Lol!!! Evils happening does not necessarily mean the Antichrist is around. They would just lead up to his arrival into world power. Not all the beasts are past Gentile kingdoms. The last beast is a past and a future kingdom. It was just silent for some time and would gain power before the coming of Christ. At the appearance of Christ, the kingdom would finally be subdued once and for all (Daniel 7:11). But there has to be a war against Israel first. The Russians would lead an army to attack Israel and would be stopped by God (Ezekiel 38). The Antichrist would then arise to power by coming peacefully. We are still living in the time of the Gentiles and according to the bible, for Christ to come again, the time of the Gentiles must end under the rule of the Antichrist. The way Zechariah the prophet described the Coming of Christ does not even agree with Olumba as Christ. I will quote Zechariah's prophecy.



"Behold, the day of the LORD is coming, and your spoil will be divided in your midst.

For, I will gather all nations to battle against Jerusalem; the city would be taken, the houses demolished and the women ravished. Half of the city shall go into captivity, but a remainder of the people shall not be cut off from the city.

Then the LORD will go forth and fight against those nations, as He fights in the day of battle.

And in that day, His feet shall stand on the Mount of Olives, which faces Jerusalem on the east. And the Mount of Olives will be split into two making a large valley" - Zechariah 14:1-4.



The above prophecy is the manner of Christ's return and your Olumba did not fulfill it.


As for the Holy Spirit, the Greek word for "comforter" is "parakletos" and it means "Helper." Note the Holy Spirit is sent by Christ (John 16:7) but you said Olumba is the Helper or Comforter and at the same time Christ. Comedy of the century!!!!! Olumba is flesh and blood and will die. Christ cannot be the "Helper" and at the same time send the "Helper." It is like sending Himself after He has ascended. The Holy Spirit was shared on the day of Pentecost (Acts 2:1-4). Jesus told His disciples to wait in Jerusalem for the Helper (Acts 1:4) and not to wait in Africa for the Helper. The Helper was to arrive in Jerusalem as Acts 1:4-8 has it. This event took place around 50 C.E.

Prophetess Otom's First
Revelation.


One early morning, Prophetess
Otom woke her husband and
narrated to him a dream she
had about their farm. She
began; we were working
when shouts, calling attention to on-coming animals came
from different directions from
other farmers who were also
working on their farms. The
animals turned out to be bush
cows. You ran out with your special weaved net and a club.

A moment later, the bush cows
started chasing people.
Unfortunately you were
knocked down by one of them.
You were later carried home on a stretcher dead. At home
all efforts to bring you back to
life proved abortive.

Prophetess Otom then pleaded
wth her husband not to lead
the hunting expedition, they
had planned the previous
night. She said she was afraid
of what would happen because of her dream.

The husband shapely replied
almost in anger ''i have never
been known to be a coward.
My word had always been my
bond. Even the smallest child in
Ozoi Etono knows that Eggan Otim Oshim is Eggan OtIm
Oshim. Death is death and life
is life. I cannot fear death. To
stop leading the hunting
expedition as planned, would
mean an act of cowardice on my part''.

On the following day Onun
Eggan Otim Oshim , led the
hunting expedition, some
hours after they had started
hunting for animals, Eggan
was knocked down by one of the wild beasts. He was carried home on a stretcher dead.

The news of Eggan's death spread like wild fire. So Eggan is dead? Shouted Prophetess Otom at the top of her voice as she lay flat on her back, weeping.

The crowd that gathered could not be controlled; Eggan was dead! They all wept. While the
weeping and wailing went on,
the two families (of Eggan and his wife) were meeting to put
finishing touches to a befitting
burial arrangements for Onun
Eggan Otim Oshim. By the death of Onun Eggan Otim Oshim, it was confirmed
that indeed Prophetess Otom
served a living God.

It was to let the people know the efficacy in dreams and visions as her future visions were to reveal to a doubting world.

DeCleff:
PROPHETESS OTOM REVELATIONS.


Though the Bible did mention His Name but we must that not everything God did was recorded in the Bivle but whenever God wants to do something, He always reveal it to someone.


Amos 3:7 says; Surely the Lord
God will do nothing, but He
revealeth His secrets to His
servants the prophets.

With the above scripture i humbly introduce to you one of those servants of God by name
Prophetess Otom: a native of
Biakpan in Biase L.G.A of Cross
River state,

Nigeria. Prophetess Otom the visioner, was the daughter of Onun Ogim Eleh. She was married to Onun Eggan Otim Oshim.

The carnage was not a successful one because Prophetess Otom had protested from the initial
stage, that she would not like
to be given in marriage to
anyone. She felt that marriage,
wth all its attendant problems
and committments would seriously affect her spiritual
power.

Her protest against her
marriage to Onun Eggan Otim
Oshim was against the wishes
of her parents, and they
showed their displeasure Through persuasion, a
compromise was reached, and
the marriage was contracted.
For many years there was no
issue because of her refusal to
be intimate with her husband.

After much pressure from her
husband for intimacy the
prophetess threatened a
divorce to enable her serve her
God with devotion. The threat
brought prolonged argument between husband and wife for
days. This again, was partially
settled by the parents of both
parties in a befitting
traditional manner.

We need bible proofs and not what a strange and obscure prophetess said.

lordnicklaus:
I will quote another bible verse to show that the Antichrist's kingdom is to be set up before Christ returns.



"Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus the Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you not to be shaken in mind or troubled either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of Christ had come. Let no man deceive you by any means for that Day will not come unless an apostasy comes first and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in God's temple, showing himself that he is God" - 2 Thessalonians 2:1-4

So do u agree that the anti christ has been revealed already or are u still expecting him to be revealed?

lordnicklaus:




We need bible proofs and not what a strange and obscure prophetess said.

Do u also need Bible proof to confirm whether the prophetic declarations are real or false?

U belive then without any Bible proof when they say those words which are not written in the Bible right?

But when another prophet says u demand for Bible proof. This is hypocrisy

While we all awaits Christ's universal manifestation on the last day

Can u explain to me who is the male child that will be born by a woman who will rule all nations with the rod of an iron in Rev. 12:1-5?

Onun Eggan Otim Oshim Was
Raised Back To Life By Olumba
Olumba Obu.


In the night of the day that
Eggan died, something
spectacular happened.
Prophetess Otom was
weeping alone in her room
every attempt to get her consled failed.

Eventually, she dozed off, because she had been fatiqued. Said Prophetess Otom thereafter. As i was fast asleep, an elegant young man
dressed in simple white cloth appeared to me with a smile
and said, weep no more,
Prophetess Otom. Your
husband is not dead, he is
alive.

The young man got hold of my fore-finger and helped me made three circles (i.e O O
O) on the deceased thus. One
'O' on his fore-head, another 'O'
his abdomen, and the last 'O'
on his right knee. After this exercise, the young man disappeared and i woke
up to find my husband
opening and closing his eyes
and mouth at short intervals. I
watched him raised his hands one after the other very gently.
Then he turned his eyes to the
direction i was sitting and
watching. He could not
recognise me. He struggled to
get himself into a sitting position but failed. It was at this stage that i went and got him seated.

After a while he fixed his eyes
on me and called me by my
name, Otom. Are you Otom my wife? I answered in the
affirmative. He narrated the
events that led to his being
there. He wept and i joined
him.

As we were consoling and
embracing ourselves, we heard
a knock on the door. It was
Onun Ogim Eleh, my father. It
was the first knock that early
morning. Onun Ogim Eleh almost collapsed when he saw
the outstretched hands of my
husband, Onun Eggan Otim
Oshim trying to embrace him
as the door was swung open
by me. '

'Stpp, don't embrace me! I have nothing to do with
a ghost. We shall give you a
befitting burial. You were a
great hero, we all know this'',
he screamed pointing his
walking stick at Eggan. Who stood motionless starring at
him.

I fell on my knees weeping
before my father holding firm
his feet. ''Father, what you are
seeing is my husband, Eggan,
my real husband and not his
ghost''. I pleaded, Ogim Eleh dropped his walking stick and
the two men embraced
themselves.

DeCleff:
While we all awaits Christ's universal manifestation on the last day

Can u explain to me who is the male child that will be born by a woman who will rule all nations with the rod of an iron in Rev. 12:1-5?

That's Christ, I is He that God has given the Kingdom to....

Look at these, Christ shall come back as a King (here refering to Himself as the Son of man)


Matthew 16:28 |
Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.

the prophecy in Revelation is a parallel of Daniels..

Dan 7:13 I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him.
14 And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed.

He is also the one to whom the ancient of days as you quoted above, gives the Kingdom.

Revelation 11:15 |
And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

Now I have learnt of your fathers Kingdom after reading this thread. If what you claim had any truth in it, should it not be a world wide kingdom?
Better yet, why is the age/ our world just as He found it?

This is what the bible says about the great day of the coming of the lord,

1 - judgement;

Mat 16:27 For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.


Malachi 4:1 For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the LORD of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch.

2) - Righteosness;

mal 4:2 But unto you that fear my name shall[b] the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall.[/b]
3 And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do this, saith the LORD of hosts.

3 - and He shall rule with the saints,


Dan 7: 27 And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.

4 - He is the one to whom all powers and Kingdoms are subjected;

This is sad