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Re: Revenge: Are You For Or Against? by freecocoa(f): 8:58am On Apr 13, 2016 |
AgricSalt:Very dismissive o cos quite frankly, you weren't making sense. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Revenge: Are You For Or Against? by Brushless: 9:02am On Apr 13, 2016 |
finofaya:There are bad people even in the best and so called upright. Revenge sometimes takes away your dignity because it may boomerang and what you will have may be an exact opposite of your aim, then who is to blame. God says "revenge is mine", therefore it will be sweeter to leave it for God. |
Re: Revenge: Are You For Or Against? by MadCow1: 9:04am On Apr 13, 2016 |
freecocoa: I don't consider it REVENGE.. I call it Doing unto you as you did to me. Call it balancing the scale. Call it leveling the playing field. 3 Likes |
Re: Revenge: Are You For Or Against? by nmreports: 11:11am On Apr 13, 2016 |
freecocoa: It is alright Freecocoa... You are absolutely entitled to your opinion. I was just asking. Trust you are well. Regards. |
Re: Revenge: Are You For Or Against? by NigerianScholar: 2:25pm On Apr 13, 2016 |
freecocoa:Instead of being defensive and trying to insult me. Try defending your point if you feel you are correct .. I said something wasn't grammatically correct. Which was my view. It would av been better if you had said that what you said wasnt wrong. Instead of presuming I cant Now. Please educate me and prove your point #wearealllearning |
Re: Revenge: Are You For Or Against? by Nobody: 3:39pm On Apr 13, 2016 |
I don't believe in revenge. I only enforce the golden rule. |
Re: Revenge: Are You For Or Against? by freecocoa(f): 4:47pm On Apr 13, 2016 |
NigerianScholar:Next time, humble yourself and ask questions, instead of assuming you know. I don't owe you an education, especially not with the condescending attitude and I certainly have absolutely nothing to prove to you. Go read a book or two, learn some manners and come talk to me, maybe then, we'll have something worth discussing. Good day mister. |
Re: Revenge: Are You For Or Against? by freecocoa(f): 4:54pm On Apr 13, 2016 |
Timbuktou:No matter what? Not even if I killed your favourite stripper?. |
Re: Revenge: Are You For Or Against? by Nobody: 5:02pm On Apr 13, 2016 |
I wouldn't outrightly say I'm against it. It depends. I don't believe in Karma. |
Re: Revenge: Are You For Or Against? by whoisuche: 5:23pm On Apr 13, 2016 |
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Re: Revenge: Are You For Or Against? by Nobody: 10:42pm On Apr 13, 2016 |
freecocoa:Olodo, I said I "enforce". You wan kill my favorite stripper? Say your last prayer. |
Re: Revenge: Are You For Or Against? by KoyZ(m): 12:49am On Apr 14, 2016 |
missyadorable: Now as a man is like this or like that, according as he acts and according as he behaves, so will he be; a man of good acts will become good, a man of bad acts, bad; he becomes pure by pure deeds, bad by bad deeds; And here they say that a person consists of desires, and as is his desire, so is his will; and as is his will, so is his deed; and whatever deed he does, that he will reap. #thisiswhaticallkarma. |
Re: Revenge: Are You For Or Against? by NigerianScholar: 9:56am On Apr 14, 2016 |
freecocoa:Defend your point...simple!!!! View d pics attached below
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Re: Revenge: Are You For Or Against? by freecocoa(f): 4:17pm On Apr 14, 2016 |
Timbuktou:Lol, I didn't see that. Duh! You can't do sh1t, I wee kee you join sef, mschew. |
Re: Revenge: Are You For Or Against? by freecocoa(f): 4:36pm On Apr 14, 2016 |
NigerianScholar, walai I wasn't going to reply you but I just had to say this. Wait o, so you weren't even sure, nor know why you think the phrase is wrong, you had to rely on strangers in a whatsapp group, seriously this is your come back? How do you know, their answers can be relied on? See the way you are even saying I should defend my point as if you are able to defend yours, Chai god! I don't owe you anything my dear, you can keep letting whatsapp group be your brain. 1 Like |
Re: Revenge: Are You For Or Against? by Nobody: 6:22pm On Apr 14, 2016 |
Have a seat sir, you don't know everything. You go around throwing doctrines with certain assertiveness and air of confidence... that is almost concerning. There is positive karma and there is negative karma. Are you telling me, you don't want good things to happen to you when you do good things to others. You don't want someone who murders your loved one to serve some form of justice? "You reap what you sow"..... "karma"...."do unto others as you would like...." This principle is almost in every religious doctrine across culture. It's universal. Get use to it. You actually need this principal in practice; humans need this principle in other to 'continue civilization and human decency'. This idea is for your own survival too, as it may be what is preventing your next door neighbor from absolutely decimating and torturing your arse. Karma is real. It may not come when or how you expect it. Like air and gravity, you may not see it in a form, but it is there. It may come in a form of anything. Its existence is not up for debate. What may be up for debate is the 'when', 'how' and 'extent or degree' to which you experience karma. The absence of the effects of karma is rather an exception- and this is when or what believers will say or call the GRACE or FAVOR of G-d that you get to escape the wrath (of G-d). Karma on the contrary is not for the weak, but for the resilient. It takes a lot of inner strength to not go for revenge and retaliation or fight your way thru a lot of things. So there...... Decker: |
Re: Revenge: Are You For Or Against? by NigerianScholar: 7:42pm On Apr 14, 2016 |
freecocoa:First of all. I have been in that group for more than 8 months. I know everyone there and they know me.(my name was included when I was being replied) I recently lost all my contacts thats y I dont have most of them named. And I never said I wasnt sure. I said that if you feel what you said was right. You should defend you point. And prove me wrong. That is how things work. My fellow groupies were on my side and they defended their claims. And I also told you that you werent correct and explained. But you didnt listen |
Re: Revenge: Are You For Or Against? by asalimpo(m): 8:30pm On Apr 14, 2016 |
lilzcee:if he lets, Jesus can take away the Hurt and pain. " .. He binds the broken hearted " |
Re: Revenge: Are You For Or Against? by asalimpo(m): 8:47pm On Apr 14, 2016 |
Revenge is a desire for justice to be done for a wrong inflicted. Legitimate desire all right, but the issue is - Who is qualified to exact the punishment? How just are his scales? It's better to rely on the legal system, barring that, leave the matter in God's hand. It's revenge that makes people do the most barbaric things in the universe, because in their quest to exact their pound of flesh, they're driven by excessive bitterness and anger. Also, what dyu do if the one you want to hurt is more powerful than you and hence untouchable? Things people have done in the name of revenge: poured acid on their patner - for rejecting an advance/breaking heart etc ? cut of patner's joystick - cuz patner is sleeping around amputated patner's arm - cuz she's suspected of cheating burned down buildings killed children because patner not giving wife enough attention poisoned and killed maimed commited suicide etc In retrospect, some of the hurt was exaggerated by the blinding emotions the victim felt. Take the case of the lover that pours acid on the patner, if he had cooled of for say one year, would he/she be so pent up? They might have met some1 better or even come to realise they're not all that keen on their patner after all. |
Re: Revenge: Are You For Or Against? by Nobody: 9:14pm On Apr 14, 2016 |
Xiadnat: I agree I don't know everything, Ma, and I never said I did. I was only airing my opinion. First of all, I believe that there are observable consequences for every action we take and decision we make. For example, if a student doesn't study for his exams, he will fail. If a woman has unprotected sex all the time, there is a high chance she would get pregnant eventually. Additionally, there are basic laws, set up by us humans, that govern various spheres of life, and acting against them, comes with it's own consequence. For example, if you come late to work, or you miss a day without taking an excuse from a superior, you will be handed a query as punishment. If a motorist drives above the speed limit, he will be arrested and charged for his offense. However, what I don't agree with is Supernatural Karma- The believe that a supernatural entity rewards us for our good deeds and punishes us for our bad deeds. Such belief is ridiculous. There isn't anything as positive or negative karma. If you put aside any preconceived religious ideas you might have, and take time to study the world around you, you'd understand that Karma doesn't exist. Good and bad happens to us all, whether we do good or bad. Let's look at the example of an 18 year old girl who suffered rape and torture from the hands of a sadistic rapist. All through the girl's life, she only did good. A lovely, kindhearted, innocent girl who devoted her time to helping kids and doing voluntary chores. But yet, she suffers such kind of evil? Why? What was her offense? According to your law of karma, she is supposed to be happy forever, since all she does is put a smile on people's faces, but yet, she has to live with the pain of rape and abuse all through her life. Karma tells us that if we want happiness, we should sow the seeds of happiness. Do good to others and others will do good to you. What you sow is what you will reap. But just a quick survey of the world we live in, will give you a confirmation that this isn't true. People do bad things and they still get the so called rewards of doing good. Morals are our definition of what's good and what's evil. As you know, the concept of good and evil is highly subjective. But karma necessitates objective morals. For karma to be true, there must be a universal definition of good and evil. But this can't be possible, because our definition for what's good and what's bad differs. For example, you might think that engaging in things like homosexuality/masturbation/abortion, is bad, and as such, those who engage in it will be punished for their action. But someone else might have a conflicting opinion and might think it's good. If Karma exists, what role does it play in this kind of situation? Does Karma act upon each individuals own definition of good and evil? Does Karma have it's own definition for good and evil? Since there is no universal definition for good and evil, then Karma doesn't exist. Morals are man made, and since Karma thrives on morals, then Karma is also man made. Anyone who does good to others just because he wants others to do good to him, isn't good. He is just pretending to be good. Good people are people who do good because they love doing good. The believe in Karma forces people to do good just because of the reward they think they would get. The believe in Karma forces people to flee from evil just because of the fear of punishment. Meaning if Karma didn't exist, then people wouldn't see the need to do good. So, Karma is more or less a means of regulating the actions of men. It is obviously man made and it doesn't exist. If anyone is to do good, they should do good because by doing good, they are making someone else happy, not because they are expecting a reward or afraid of punishment. 2 Likes |
Re: Revenge: Are You For Or Against? by Longman6(m): 9:28pm On Aug 28, 2016 |
freecocoa: A farmer comes home one day to find that everything that gives meaning to his life is gone. Crops are burned, animals slaughtered, bodies and broken pieces of his life strewn about. Everything that he loved taken from him - his children. One can only imagine the pit of despair, the hours of Job-like lamentations, the burden of existence. He makes a promise to himself in those dark hours. A life's work erupts from his knotted mind. Years go by. His suffering becomes complicated. One day he stops - the farmer who is no longer a farmer - sees the wreckage he's left in his wake. It is now he who burns, he who slaughters, and he knows in his heart he must pay. |
Re: Revenge: Are You For Or Against? by obaaderemi: 12:35pm On Sep 07, 2022 |
It depends. If involves taking another person's life then revenge is not worth it. But if it's like breaking up a marriage or relationship because a partner cheated and is unremorseful about it, then it's ok. It might not take all the hurt away especially if children are involved but it's still better than living with a partner who hurt you deeply and calls you weak for taking no action. |
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