Welcome, Guest: Register On Nairaland / LOGIN! / Trending / Recent / New
Stats: 3,151,834 members, 7,813,788 topics. Date: Tuesday, 30 April 2024 at 06:25 PM

How my inverter is saving me in this poor power supply and no-fuel situation - Science/Technology (11) - Nairaland

Nairaland Forum / Science/Technology / How my inverter is saving me in this poor power supply and no-fuel situation (87536 Views)

NigComSat-1, Nigeria's Satellite In The Orbit: What Is The Situation Now? / Anular Eclipse In Nigeria: What's The Situation Report In Your Area?? / HEAVY RAIN DOWNPOUR IN LAGOS: What Is The Situation Of Things In Your Area? (2) (3) (4)

(1) (2) (3) ... (8) (9) (10) (11) (12) (13) (14) ... (18) (Reply) (Go Down)

Re: How my inverter is saving me in this poor power supply and no-fuel situation by Excuzeme: 11:18am On Apr 25, 2016
GODAKPAN:
MINE COST A LITTLE ABOVE 900K, 3.5KVA INVERTER, 4 BATTERIES, 8 SOLAR PANEL AND CHARGE CONTROLLER, ITS BEEN WONDERFUL.

COST: PANEL =48K EACH
INVERTER =135K
BATTERIES =56K EACH
CHARGE CONTROLLER =50K
BATTERY/PANEL RACK =40K
INSTALLATION =75K


Can you please throw more light on he Solar Panels you have?

- brand name?
- physical size?
- Capacity (power rating) of each panel
- Type of cell (material) used in making the panel

Thanks
Re: How my inverter is saving me in this poor power supply and no-fuel situation by Excuzeme: 11:34am On Apr 25, 2016
osabuohein:
not at all bros. It's balanced. The truth about it is that the larger the battery or batteries the more appliances it would be able to accommodate. Like in my case I have 2 functioning fridges but I only added one cos I have only 4 batteries. My pumping machine is not included so as not to overburden it. It's not advisable to use pressing irons, hot plates, electric gas cookers and appliances that consume a lot of electricity. But solar on the otherhand, can accommodate a lot of appliances that consume power and it has a long life span too. I'm planning on getting[b] solar inverter[/b] soon.

Is SOLAR Inverter, different from those used with Batteries, charged by Nepa?


Thanks
Re: How my inverter is saving me in this poor power supply and no-fuel situation by Nobody: 11:53am On Apr 25, 2016
Excuzeme:


Is SOLAR Inverter, different from those used with Batteries, charged by Nepa?


Thanks
Yes bros. Solar inverter uses sunlight to charge while those powered by batteries need Nepa or a generator to charge its batteries. But solar inverter still remains the best.
Re: How my inverter is saving me in this poor power supply and no-fuel situation by hornyman(m): 12:03pm On Apr 25, 2016
GODAKPAN:
MINE COST A LITTLE ABOVE 900K, 3.5KVA INVERTER, 4 BATTERIES, 8 SOLAR PANEL AND CHARGE CONTROLLER, ITS BEEN WONDERFUL.

COST: PANEL =48K EACH
INVERTER =135K
BATTERIES =56K EACH
CHARGE CONTROLLER =50K
BATTERY/PANEL RACK =40K
INSTALLATION =75K



I am interested in solar, to me solar is the best, inverter is short term solutions and still make u depended on PHCN, GEN and Solar and the battery of inverter has a lifespan of 6 years or even 5 years. So in 5 years I will have to start saving or running to buy another sets of batteries? No way, I'd rather do the needful now by investing on Solar. Now my question are, are u in Lagos?, aside the solar panel which you say cost N48k each what else will be required to use the solar. I need all it takes to get a solar in my house so if you give me an idea and all the prices involve in getting Solar I can use my calculations to know how much I'm supposed to budget for the solar.
Re: How my inverter is saving me in this poor power supply and no-fuel situation by nairalandbuzz(m): 12:24pm On Apr 25, 2016
DMerciful:
In a month I normally use fuel worth N8000 to power my generator anytime there's power outage but since I bought my inverter more than a year ago, I spend averagely N500 per month. Yes..N500 averagely as I could go for 3months sometimes without putting on my gen. This backup system has been very helpful especially now that there is poor mains supply and fuel scarcity with exorbitant price. Those of you complaining of excessing estimated bill, you can get value for the bills you pay if you have a backup system since you'll massively utilize the mains when it is available provided you can have light at least once in two days.
Below is my 1.5kva sine wave inverter and 4batteries system.
Show us pics of your backup system and tell us how much you save from this arrangement per month.


Mods pls move to front page so Nigerians can be aware of alternative cost saving power

For years... I don't use gen.. Only Inverter to power my Aos. I use 3.5 with 4 batteries... Should upgrade to 8 soon. Just got a 6kva gen last month to charge the batteries to super level cos the power we ve in the area ain't good enough
Re: How my inverter is saving me in this poor power supply and no-fuel situation by DMerciful(m): 12:43pm On Apr 25, 2016
The truth is when you start using inverter you really cannot do without it. I will advice you to incorporate solar like 10 pieces of 200w of about total 500k plus charge controller and forget about the upgrade to 8batteries. The solar will pay you by far.
nairalandbuzz:


For years... I don't use gen.. Only Inverter to power my Aos. I use 3.5 with 4 batteries... Should upgrade to 8 soon. Just got a 6kva gen last month to charge the batteries to super level cos the power we ve in the area ain't good enough
Re: How my inverter is saving me in this poor power supply and no-fuel situation by DMerciful(m): 12:45pm On Apr 25, 2016
Nope...it can not. U need about 10 pcs of 200w to be able to conveniently power such loads.
9jatatafo:


Can this 200W power a pumping machine of one horse power?
Re: How my inverter is saving me in this poor power supply and no-fuel situation by Opoki(m): 12:53pm On Apr 25, 2016
pat077:
pls , i need something like that, how do i get it and what's the cost?
Get a Binatone UPS, remove the battery inside and replace it with a car battery or deep circle batter of 12v 75ah or 12v 100ah then you're ready to hit the highway.
Re: How my inverter is saving me in this poor power supply and no-fuel situation by pat077: 1:37pm On Apr 25, 2016
Opoki:

Get a Binatone UPS, remove the battery inside and replace it with a car battery or deep circle batter of 12v 75ah or 12v 100ah then you're ready to hit the highway.
will d ups b able to charge d battery effectively or do i need a smart chager?
Re: How my inverter is saving me in this poor power supply and no-fuel situation by DMerciful(m): 1:47pm On Apr 25, 2016
A good charger will improve the lost capacity but I'm getting a device(desulphator) from China. Once it arrives and I try it and its OK...I will feedback the house.how long have you been using ur batteries and what make is ur inverter?
Boss13:


What did you use to restore your batteries. My batteries are draining too.
Re: How my inverter is saving me in this poor power supply and no-fuel situation by DMerciful(m): 1:48pm On Apr 25, 2016
I have replied you.
okoegualek:


Thanks @ DMerciful,you have got a mail.
Re: How my inverter is saving me in this poor power supply and no-fuel situation by kogistar: 1:49pm On Apr 25, 2016
oyb:


Sorry, never heard of it

Edit just Googled them and they seem very legit. The question then is if you can trust your supplier
which battery is good now? what if am using inv
Re: How my inverter is saving me in this poor power supply and no-fuel situation by kogistar: 1:50pm On Apr 25, 2016
oyb:


Sorry, never heard of it

Edit just Googled them and they seem very legit. The question then is if you can trust your supplier
which battery is good now? what if am using inverter (macury 2kva). and mono 200w solar panel, without adding battery, is it wrong?
Re: How my inverter is saving me in this poor power supply and no-fuel situation by DMerciful(m): 1:51pm On Apr 25, 2016
200W is about 50k but make sure you go for the monocrystalline panels...they are more efficient
Innomach:

How much is a panel now, any idea, please?
Re: How my inverter is saving me in this poor power supply and no-fuel situation by DMerciful(m): 1:57pm On Apr 25, 2016
Plan to increase ur panels to atleast 12, 6 is not enough to charge 8 batteries.
Certifiedboss:


Mine is with solar panel . 6panels , 8batteries , 7.5kva inverter and everything cost me 700k. Been using it for about a month now

1 Like

Re: How my inverter is saving me in this poor power supply and no-fuel situation by ajealadick(m): 1:59pm On Apr 25, 2016
molydonhenry:
Chai! about 280k, and i was budgeting 150k, though just 4my small house. Pls hw do u get 2 charge ur batteries?

I can advise you on how to get a complete system for 100k, with the 150k you are planning I can help you to get power for 12 hours if NEPA fails. call me on 08113520508 if you are interested.
Re: How my inverter is saving me in this poor power supply and no-fuel situation by Opoki(m): 2:04pm On Apr 25, 2016
pat077:
will d ups b able to charge d battery effectively or do i need a smart chager?
The UPS will but will be a longer period but you can as well get a smart charger then I will recommend 100ah battery.
Re: How my inverter is saving me in this poor power supply and no-fuel situation by kogistar: 2:10pm On Apr 25, 2016
bigtt76:
Even batteries for cars are not meant to last more than 2 years on 100% efficiency. Efficiency drops as the years go by. The deep cycle batteries are no different dear. If you are opportuned to get very good ones ...you will enjoy it!

dry cell vs wet cell which one is more durable?
Re: How my inverter is saving me in this poor power supply and no-fuel situation by Nobody: 2:20pm On Apr 25, 2016
hornyman:

I think you need inverter and charge controller but without battery u wouldn't have light in the absence of sun light


I am interested in solar, to me solar is the best, inverter is short term solutions and still make u depended on PHCN, GEN and Solar and the battery of inverter has a lifespan of 6 years or even 5 years. So in 5 years I will have to start saving or running to buy another sets of batteries? No way, I'd rather do the needful now by investing on Solar. Now my question are, are u in Lagos?, aside the solar panel which you say cost N48k each what else will be required to use the solar. I need all it takes to get a solar in my house so if you give me an idea and all the prices involve in getting Solar I can use my calculations to know how much I'm supposed to budget for the solar.
Re: How my inverter is saving me in this poor power supply and no-fuel situation by Nobody: 2:23pm On Apr 25, 2016
[Everthing i used are from luminous, ratings i cant give till i check my books. Battery is 200 Ah not sure of units ooo, quote author=Excuzeme post=45023608]


Can you please throw more light on he Solar Panels you have?

- brand name?
- physical size?
- Capacity (power rating) of each panel
- Type of cell (material) used in making the panel

Thanks


[/quote]
Re: How my inverter is saving me in this poor power supply and no-fuel situation by litaninja(m): 3:06pm On Apr 25, 2016
The majority of our devices run on AC. Your panels are DC. You need to get AC from the inverter.
Most solar installations will not have that much "excess" output to charge the batteries(usually in large banks), after you have powered the house.
Agreed, you could shed the daytime load, or have a design that splits between charging and running your daytime load, e.t.c.

bigtt76:
I disagree with you.

Its best to get the Solar Panels supply your house with its primary power supply during the day time while at the same time, charge your battery bank for later use during the night time when the Sun has set.

Getting your primary power supply from the batteries will only end up reducing the efficiency of the batteries faster than it was meant to last.

Inverters are designed to 'invert' the input current from its original state to a usable state depending of course on the appliances you are powering. in our discourse here, it converts DC to AC so connecting your Solar panels to the inverter gives you AC output which you can conveniently use to run your house needs during the day and the excess charge your batteries for use later in the evening.

Re: How my inverter is saving me in this poor power supply and no-fuel situation by prof2015(m): 3:30pm On Apr 25, 2016
bigtt76:
Nice one. Just saw the video of you powering an 11 watt electric bulb using just 2 9 volt camera batteries ....how far? How much does it go for?

the 5kva cost N65000 to build, it can power my ac, fridge, cooker and all my electronics.
if you dont have much load like ac and refrigirator and ac i can build the 1.5kva for you for N25000
Re: How my inverter is saving me in this poor power supply and no-fuel situation by bigtt76(f): 3:30pm On Apr 25, 2016
Dry cell cos it's maintenance free and usually sealed.

kogistar:
dry cell vs wet cell which one is more durable?
Re: How my inverter is saving me in this poor power supply and no-fuel situation by DMerciful(m): 3:47pm On Apr 25, 2016
A good system batteries stays averagely 4-6yrs. D bigger the system, d more d longevity
Electroweb:


Well, inverters have minimum voltage at which they cut off power supply, so its not possible to drain it to nought. Assuming If you have an inverter of the strenght of a truck but use it to carry load of one Laptop then its a waste of money and space. The average life span of the batteries is 2yrs. The storage capacity of the batteries drop over time, just like ur phone, rechargeable torch, car batteries e.t.c they are all the same.
Re: How my inverter is saving me in this poor power supply and no-fuel situation by Barrysleek(m): 3:50pm On Apr 25, 2016
I've been using this for four yrs now I don't use it to power my iron, fridge, Ac, and water pump i use energy saving bulbs and electrical appliances. On a full charge it can take me for 12hrs

1 Like

Re: How my inverter is saving me in this poor power supply and no-fuel situation by Ancientx(m): 3:53pm On Apr 25, 2016
Here is my take on this inverter issues.. Firstly anyone thinking of having a solar inverter instead of the normal one should understand that you must be looking at a cost of over 700k for a good reliable one.

I bought an inverter last year august and its still giving me 3 - 4 days of power if i can use it only 6 hrs a day for what i need.. Now this is exactly what i will like to share, inverters are the best only if you know how to use them. You must at first get a good one and good batteries which is the most important of all.. The second most important thing is the load/usage.. whenever anyone hears about inverter i am usually asked some questions like will it carry fridge, ac, microwave, washing machine and the rest then i laugh. The truth is that its an alternative to our Power crisis not a cure and i can guarantee you that even solar power isnt a cure either because you still have to rely on batteries.

To cut the long story short is this.
Buy a good 1.5kva inverter with 200A batteries x 2 or x 4(dry cell ooo). I use just 2 batteries anyway.
and get a professional to install it in such a way that only the useful stuffs will be on it like your fans, power savers and tv sets. and final do not use your inverter over night.. Just get a rechargeable fan and enjoy your sleep believe me your inverter will work as if its not stressing itself.

Final note is that always off the inverter when you hear the low battery sound. Make sure it doesnt switch itself off.. this kills the battery..

2 Likes

Re: How my inverter is saving me in this poor power supply and no-fuel situation by DMerciful(m): 4:01pm On Apr 25, 2016
Be careful of cheap products....rather seek quality.'I have used both inverter types and can tell you mercury has a poor charging system.
oyb:


in my opinion, your best value for money is a mercury inverter. 2.5kva is 25,000. buy direct from coscharis and you get a 1 year warranty.

its modified sine wave, which means some fans may hum when running . none of the ones in my house do.
i am also recommending it because 25k is far easier to shrug off than 150k.

after you buy your mopower inverter the english will start. oh, it needs a stabilizer; oh you cannot use it with a generator sized less than so and so

nigerians are very lousy where after sales support is concerned.
Re: How my inverter is saving me in this poor power supply and no-fuel situation by kogistar: 4:04pm On Apr 25, 2016
bigtt76:
Dry cell cos it's maintenance free and usually sealed.

but u can't repair dry cell
Re: How my inverter is saving me in this poor power supply and no-fuel situation by Ancientx(m): 4:07pm On Apr 25, 2016
kogistar:
but u can't repair dry cell
Why do you want to repair something that will last 3 - 5 years?..

1 Like

Re: How my inverter is saving me in this poor power supply and no-fuel situation by kogistar: 4:24pm On Apr 25, 2016
Ancientx:

Why do you want to repair something that will last 3 - 5t 2yrs? years?..
so, wet cell can't las
Re: How my inverter is saving me in this poor power supply and no-fuel situation by DMerciful(m): 4:35pm On Apr 25, 2016
You are right. Let me give the house a free design grin
If your battery is two 200AH deep cycle batteries, u need a current supply of 30A for 7hrs to charge fully. In addition if your load is 300w from the inverter, u need 300/24=12.5A. So in total, u need 42.5A from the solar panels to power your load and charge your batteries at the same time. Now since you need 42.5A @ 24V in total, your solar panels should be 24*42.5*f=1020f, where f is the factor for the varying angle of the sun's beam. All in all, you need about 1500w solar panel bank. The 480w difference is to compensate for the sun's angle as a solar panel of 200w is actually 200w when the sun is at 90 degrees to d panel. In order words its the power of the panel is rated power p*cos€ where € is sun's anglecheesy
bigtt76:
I disagree with you.

Its best to get the Solar Panels supply your house with its primary power supply during the day time while at the same time, charge your battery bank for later use during the night time when the Sun has set.

Getting your primary power supply from the batteries will only end up reducing the efficiency of the batteries faster than it was meant to last.

Inverters are designed to 'invert' the input current from its original state to a usable state depending of course on the appliances you are powering. in our discourse here, it converts DC to AC so connecting your Solar panels to the inverter gives you AC output which you can conveniently use to run your house needs during the day and the excess charge your batteries for use later in the evening.

Re: How my inverter is saving me in this poor power supply and no-fuel situation by DMerciful(m): 4:39pm On Apr 25, 2016
Never use locally made inverters, they have poor charging system and will charge ur batteries to death!
Goahead:
https://www.nairaland.com/2428983/how-create-locally-made-inverter

There you have it bro.

(1) (2) (3) ... (8) (9) (10) (11) (12) (13) (14) ... (18) (Reply)

Extreme Military Technology: Reason We Must Avoid World War III / This Fish is Able To Kill Snakes & Other Animals While Walking On Land (Video) / Lion Killed In Ngala, Borno State After It Killed Some People And Injured Others

(Go Up)

Sections: politics (1) business autos (1) jobs (1) career education (1) romance computers phones travel sports fashion health
religion celebs tv-movies music-radio literature webmasters programming techmarket

Links: (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (10)

Nairaland - Copyright © 2005 - 2024 Oluwaseun Osewa. All rights reserved. See How To Advertise. 71
Disclaimer: Every Nairaland member is solely responsible for anything that he/she posts or uploads on Nairaland.