Amberon:
God himself said this.

Hebrews 1: 8 But to the Son He says: "Your throne , O God is forever and ever; A scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your kingdom.

How about that??

smoy:
No the book of Genesis was suppose to be a dream of whom ever wrote it not word of God nor Jesus, though all real books of God(Injil, Zebur, Taoret) came from same Origin i.e God through prophet of each generation at time interval, but as passage of time other books were manipulated and corrupted hence the need for the last and final book from God which act as manuscript for humankind and jinkind and God then took upon Himself to protect this Last one The Qur'an from interpolation like other books.


Qur'an 21: Do not the Unbelievers see that the heavens and the earth were joined together (as one unit of creation), before we clove them asunder? We made from water every living thing. Will they not then believe? (30) And We have set on the earth mountains standing firm, lest it should shake with them, and We have made therein broad highways (between mountains) for them to pass through: that they may receive Guidance. (31) And We have made the heavens as a canopy well guarded: yet do they turn away from the Signs which these things (point to)! (32) It is He Who created the Night and the Day, and the sun and the moon: all (the celestial bodies) swim along, each in its rounded course. (33) We granted not to any man before thee permanent life (here): if then thou shouldst die, would they live permanently? (34) Every soul shall have a taste of death: and We test you by evil and by good by way of trial. to Us must ye return. (35)

Amberon:
per the bolded. Its all about the trinity. The bible made it clear that God has a triune nature.

God the father,
God the Son,
The holy spirit.

Allah is a counterfeiter hence the "we".

Preciousgirl:


My God is called Jesus Christ

Emusan:


What do I expect from you before!

Then why are you shouting the name JEHOVAH up and down if Jesus is the only Key to the means of salvation?

Then do you recognise Jesus as THE KEY to your salvation or your organization is the key?

dolphinheart:


been asking that same questions for ages, hope you get an answer.


imagine saying jesus quoted the old testament does not mean jesus mentioned the name of the father. They felt jesus was lying to God when he said " I have made your name known".

ifenes:


As a Muslim I do not expect you to agree the bible is authentic, just as they wont agree yours is authentic either.

ifenes:
You said God uses prophets in every generations. Maybe what you meant is prophets of every generation serve as a reminder of the true nature of humans. A reminder that we are more than we think we are. God of every generation is moulded according to the knowledge available. Today people see God as the Internet. All seem valid.

ifenes:
You quotes makes use of "we"( plural a lot). You cannot tell me that is one person. Can you explain how the sperm was used? I'm curious, because I know sperm cells can be used for IVF purposes.

ifenes:
I personally don't see anything almighty with the Quran,it's seem like a story. An interesting story to enjoy,not to worship or reverence

smoy:
yes bible according to Jesus is authentic but the problem with the Christendom today is the were about this Gospel according to Jesus? nothing like gospel according to Mark, Matthew, Luke, John, and must annoying is Paul the self made disciple.

yes i agreed with you that internet is god of people that refused to sight the numerous signs of Allah close to them, in the universe and withing them self, since human nature can not do without worshiping, you must have something to worship; stone, sun, iron, water, money, human, Humanity, ego, science etc are among the gods of insensitive human who think he was created out of nothing and deliberately refused to read signs of his eyes and it contents.

I think i did explain this already. on the sperm and the IVF, the scientist couldn't produce man from laboratory but by the same spam created initially by Allah, let the Scientist create uncreated element to develop embryo then we can start talking, but as for this knowledge given to human by Allah is a limited one and can never go beyond the limit, human knows only what is brain capacity can carry.

Get one copy for your self and sincerely, openhearted read this Quran. How could Muhammad of far desert years ago know what science just came to now yesterday? ponder over this He was not leaned and yet the word could never produce such impeccable and eloquent book of wisdom, for the nations followed by Millions and Generations. Well done brother.

smoy:
yes bible according to Jesus is authentic but the problem with the Christendom today is the were about this Gospel according to Jesus? nothing like gospel according to Mark, Matthew, Luke, John, and must annoying is Paul the self made disciple.

yes i agreed with you that internet is god of people that refused to sight the numerous signs of Allah close to them, in the universe and withing them self, since human nature can not do without worshiping, you must have something to worship; stone, sun, iron, water, money, human, Humanity, ego, science etc are among the gods of insensitive human who think he was created out of nothing and deliberately refused to read signs of his eyes and it contents.

I think i did explain this already. on the sperm and the IVF, the scientist couldn't produce man from laboratory but by the same spam created initially by Allah, let the Scientist create uncreated element to develop embryo then we can start talking, but as for this knowledge given to human by Allah is a limited one and can never go beyond the limit, human knows only what is brain capacity can carry.

Get one copy for your self and sincerely, openhearted read this Quran. How could Muhammad of far desert years ago know what science just came to now yesterday? ponder over this He was not leaned and yet the word could never produce such impeccable and eloquent book of wisdom, for the nations followed by Millions and Generations. Well done brother.

Jozzy4:

no, I dont recognize Jesus as the KEY , I recognize Krishna, Ifa and Zeus !!
idiot man .

ifenes:


You are spot on that one. Humans tend to look for stuff to worship,but enlightened humans who know the true essence humanity and want to ascend to the state of unlimited beings,hence they stay clear of the material world or at least not ruled by it. To worship is a sign of limitation. Some humans are now aware of themselves as the temple they need to invest in,not a church or mosque. Our body,mind and spirit(as some understand it) is our primary goal

ifenes:
My nephew is an IVF product. He was transferred into the belly of his mum after being mixed up in a test tube. It is already happening Who said man cannot achieve anything ? hmm

ifenes:
Meanwhile,from your earlier quote, "we","us" etc was used by the people who used the human sperm. How come you have changed it to allah now? Let's use the original term please.

ifenes:
I will no doubt add the Quran to my collection of books. I read everything. Thanks

Emusan:


Of course! Those are the gods of watchtower society.

cocoduck:
story

Jozzy4:


u are speaking with jozzy4 not watchtower society . idiot

Preciousgirl:



Please be civil

Jozzy4:

moonlight tales

Amberon:
God himself mentioned his name.
Exodus 6:3. And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and
unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by
my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them.
Satisfied??

solite3:
why no verse in the new testament which name did d apostle used in teaching, in healing which name did they used in performing miracles in baptism which name? Do u know d Lord's prayer? that would av been a good way for Jesus to mention his father's name rather he said our Father. Acts4:12,18 Neither is there salvation in any other:for there is no other name under heaven given among[b][/b]men, whereby we must be saved.18 And they called them, and commanded them not to [b][/b]speak at all nor tech in the name of Jesus. U c u are not d first to oppose that sweet name whether u like it or not u must bow to that name either willingly or by force.my friend come to Jesus u guys av been trying so hard bt d more u try d more its waxing stronger. It is not logic its power of God

dolphinheart:

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What on earth are you saying sef!, no be by force you must comment o!
go and read the title of the thread well well ok!

Jozzy4:



but because of people like you God make it clear that he is the God of Jesus - Heb 1:9, do u now belive Jesus have A God ?

smoy:
We as used here is plural of respect and Majestic royalty of Allah over the universe, as it used by the Hausa Kingdom (Mu ne) I.e We are even it Just one king talking, Yoruba uses plural of respect, English kings uses this and even the Bible uses this same language.

Emusan:


What do I expect from you before!

Then why are you shouting the name JEHOVAH up and down if Jesus is the only Key to the means of salvation?

Then do you recognise Jesus as THE KEY to your salvation or your organization is the key?

ifenes:


Same as Christianity. "Let Us" creat man in "our" image and after "our" likeness. Same people in the Bible and Quran obviously. Both books are not meant to be holy books

God the father, God the Mother and God the son would have sounded more appropriate. Don't you think?

Meanwhile both books have got nothing to do with religion or gods. Man has been misinformed.

solite3:
why no verse in the new testament which name did d apostle used in teaching, in healing which name did they used in performing miracles in baptism which name? Do u know d Lord's prayer? that would av been a good way for Jesus to mention his father's name rather he said our Father. Acts4:12,18 Neither is there salvation in any other:for there is no other name under heaven given among[b][/b]men, whereby we must be saved.18 And they called them, and commanded them not to [b][/b]speak at all nor tech in the name of Jesus. U c u are not d first to oppose that sweet name whether u like it or not u must bow to that name either willingly or by force.my friend come to Jesus u guys av been trying so hard bt d more u try d more its waxing stronger. It is not logic its power of God

Amberon:
You asked for a verse where the name of God was mentioned after you spoke so confidently it wasn't. I provided it and you're asking for another one in the new testament??

I never told you I was a Jehovah's witness. I use the name of Jesus to pray cuz the name of Jesus is higher than every other name.

are we on the same page now??

Amberon:
You asked for a verse where the name of God was mentioned after you spoke so confidently it wasn't. I provided it and you're asking for another one in the new testament??

I never told you I was a Jehovah's witness. I use the name of Jesus to pray cuz the name of Jesus is higher than every other name.

are we on the same page now??

solite3:
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Amberon:
You asked for a verse where Jesus claimed to be God and I gave you one in which God the father himself called Jesus God.

And there are no buts, Jesus is God. Arguing with you is an effort in futility. totally pointless.

Study the triune nature of God and help yourself.

dolphinheart:


John 17: 25,26(ESV)
O righteous Father, even though the world does not know you, I know you, and these know that you have sent me.
26 I made known to them your name, and I will continue to make it known, that the love with which you have loved me may be in them, and I in them.”

you have just shown that you dnt read the scriptures at all.

What is the name that Jesus made known? bet you can never ever answer that question.

Jozzy4:


u are probably dreaming, I never asked that!



u need that help, which is why I show you Heb 1:9.

Jesus is a Mighty God, i strongly belive that. but my point is , Do YOU AGREE WITH THE SCRIPTURES THAT JESUS himself HAVE A GOD ?

Amberon:
You asked for a verse where the name of God was mentioned after you spoke so confidently it wasn't. I provided it and you're asking for another one in the new testament??

I never told you I was a Jehovah's witness. I use the name of Jesus to pray cuz the name of Jesus is higher than every other name.

are we on the same page now??

Amberon:
don't flatter yourself. Our God is a truine being (God the father, son and holy spirit) hence the "we".

the same English language that I speak? you're just irredeemable. And no queen addresses herself as we, unless she's suffering from multiple personality disorder , in which case she would be sent to the emergency section of any hospital ward as it is a mental illness.