kallmemrB:
are u fighting war against God,can u fight war on ur own? U are asking him to fight ur battles so why yell at him

Really? He gave unto you power to tread upon serpents, scorpions and all other powers of the enemy, yet you pray to him to fight your battles?
Jesus himself said the Kingdom of God suffers violence and the violent takes it by force, this hear is referring to violence agaisnt the kingdom of darkness sir. When Apostle Paul tells us to put on the Whole Armour of God, he didn't mean for us to put on the Armour and go to sleep with them.
Or am I lost?
Oyeludef
Supeeior1

Anas09:

Really? He gave unto you power to tread upon serpents, scorpions and all other powers of the enemy, yet you pray to him to fight your battles?
Jesus himself said the Kingdom of God suffers violence and the violent takes it by force, this hear is referring to violence agaisnt the kingdom of darkness sir. When Apostle Paul tells us to put on the Whole Armour of God, he didn't mean for us to put on the Armour and go to sleep with them.
Or am I lost?
Oyeludef
Supeeior1

its true but the violence has nothing to do with ...violent prayers but Decree...the authority is in us so we decree not shout at God....u need a depper understand....whe joshua told the moon and sun to stand still thats authority ,he decree it not by violent prayers.....its getting late i would have explain in details but i will need to start afresh

Jesus answered them, "I tell you the truth, if you have faith and do not doubt, not only will you do what was done to the fig tree, but even if you say to this mountain, 'Be lifted up and thrown into the sea,' it will happen.
Matt 21:21 thats declaration ,decreeing

Anas09:

Really? He gave unto you power to tread upon serpents, scorpions and all other powers of the enemy, yet you pray to him to fight your battles?
Jesus himself said the Kingdom of God suffers violence and the violent takes it by force, this hear is referring to violence agaisnt the kingdom of darkness sir. When Apostle Paul tells us to put on the Whole Armour of God, he didn't mean for us to put on the Armour and go to sleep with them.
Or am I lost?
Oyeludef
Supeeior1

you are 100% right my sister.while kallmemrb is 100% wrong. we have types of prayers. there are prayers we direct to God for more grace,fire,anointing, etc. those are quiet prayer done in humility. it is during this time that God refresh and empowers us for warfare. then we have warfare prayers where we face the kingdom of darkness fire for fire.it is a violent prayer.violent prayers is against demons. you don't ask God to fight demons for you.he gas given you all authority,power,weapon,might and the name Jesus to use.

kallmemrB:


its true but the violence has nothing to do with ...violent prayers but Decree...the authority is in us so we decree not shout at God....u need a depper understand....whe joshua told the moon and sun to stand still thats authority ,he decree it not by violent prayers.....its getting late i would have explain in details but i will need to start afresh

Jesus answered them, "I tell you the truth, if you have faith and do not doubt, not only will you do what was done to the fig tree, but even if you say to this mountain, 'Be lifted up and thrown into the sea,' it will happen.
Matt 21:21 thats declaration ,decreeing

I asked you to mention the different kinds of prayer?
If you are faced with a fierce demon out to tear you down, you will mumble prayers. Lol
What is war fare prayer? Or you don't believe in War Fare prayer?

Kenneth4u205:
you are 100% right my sister.while kallmemrb is 100% wrong. we have types of prayers. there are prayers we direct to God for more grace,fire,anointing, etc. those are quiet prayer done in humility. it is during this time that God refresh and empowers us for warfare. then we have warfare prayers where we face the kingdom of darkness fire for fire.it is a violent prayer.violent prayers is against demons. you don't ask God to fight demons for you.he gas given you all authority,power,weapon,might and the name Jesus to use.

I tire for that guy.
I remember an incident that happened some years back.
A girl in JSS1 was initiated into witch craft by a girl in her class without her knowing. At night she will be called out, and she thought she was dreaming, and will fly out. One evening she and another girl were having a discussion she innocently confessed to somerhing which happened. The other girl came to me and told me what this other girl said, I called the small girl and started prying, it took a long time building trust cajoling her to tell me the truth, when this girl eventually did, how her other group knew what was going on I didn't know, but they came. She saw them, I didn't. She was the one shouting "Aunty Pray, Pray, Pray, the will kill me, she grapped her own neck with her own hands.
Someone's Child was choking to death in front of me, you think I just whispered prayers? I confronted Satan headlong. When they went away, she will say it, when they came close she will say it. It was battle that night, but she got delivered. She mentioned all of the ones in her group, she said they were in levels hers being the lowest, she mentioned what they ask them to bring to the coven, she mentioned where their coven was,
You think it's a joke becos as a christian you are still not serious. Get serious and see Satan, then play with him when he confronts you. LOlzzz.
The Power given to you is for what? I dodn't use mine to eat yam, If you face me I face you.

Anas09:

I tire for that guy.
I remember an incident that happened some years back.
A girl in JSS1 was initiated into witch craft by a girl in her class without her knowing. At night she will be called out, and she thought she was dreaming, and will fly out. One evening she and another girl were having a discussion she innocently confessed to somerhing which happened. The other girl came to me and told me what this other girl said, I called the small girl and started prying, it took a long time building trust cajoling her to tell me the truth, when this girl eventually did, how her other group knew what was going on I didn't know, but they came. She saw them, I didn't. She was the one shouting "Aunty Pray, Pray, Pray, the will kill me, she grapped her own neck with her own hands.
Someone's Child was choking to death in front of me, you think I just whispered prayers? I confronted Satan headlong. When they went away, she will say it, when they came close she will say it. It was battle that night, but she got delivered. She mentioned all of the ones in her group, she said they were in levels hers being the lowest, she mentioned what they ask them to bring to the coven, she mentioned where their coven was,
You think it's a joke becos as a christian you are still not serious. Get serious and see Satan, then play with him when he confronts you. LOlzzz.
The Power given to you is for what? I dodn't use mine to eat yam, If you face me I face you.

you are right.Christians are living a life of defeat today because they are ignorant of their authority,power and weapons. God gave you a loaded gun to shoot demons.yet most Christians are still asking God to come and pull the trigger for them.I have been in the deliverance ministry for a while now.you don't whisper to demons during deliverance.demons don't let go of their possession without a fight.the children of Israel never took hold of the promise land without a serious warfare.yet it was a promise from God,but the have to fight to posses it.do they whisper to the inhabitant of the land to move out?. NO.

Hello guys, I am glad to have come across this thread: it's a beautiful one.

I got born again in 1993 while in secondary school. I loved God however my relationship with Him was one of the girl who kept on toasting the guy, who wouldn't spare her a glance year after year. (in this case I was the girl and God was the guy)
I was always in church, fellowship or on my way to church/fellowship
After many years without success, I got discouraged and backslid.
Now I'm tired, I'd like to go back to God. After 23 years I've decided even if he doesn't show up I'll just continue on the right path.

My first issue is I've made a habit of some sins and I do them on auto mode.
How do I stop? Please don't tell me to put effort...I have and it didn't work. In fact I'm presently putting effort.

Second issue: whenever I try to pray even for 5 minutes I sleep off. Currently I can't play more than two minutes: I will sleep off regardless of the time of day.

Third what does it mean when all your teeth fall out in your dream. I start crying, and I wake up crying.

Fourth @ Analice, have u started working with the lady who owns a school?

Anas09:

I asked you to mention the different kinds of prayer?
If you are faced with a fierce demon out to tear you down, you will mumble prayers. Lol
What is war fare prayer? Or you don't believe in War Fare prayer?

you are face with a demon and u think shouting and praying loudly will save u abi I laugh in Chinese.... Someone said something Abt weapon given to us...there's no way u can utilize the weapon if u don't even know how to activate it

2 Cor 10:4 u need to know how to activate the weapon for usage

JMG1:
This post is on behalf of @2law who is the original post from https://www.nairaland.com/3112816/seeing-angels-birth-need-answers. He asked that someone should help me copy and paste this here and I asked to help do that so here it is. I call on all brethren here on this trend to contribute. Thanks

Good pm to ma christian brothers and sisters. Between the age of 5 and 6 i had my first vision and it was about a woman... She was to be killed by 2 men and i saw her struggling.. It was like watching a tv and immediately i shouted release her and immediately the knife fell from their hands and she was freed and immediately it vanished. I ran inside to tell my mum and she was not surprised and from then she told me that i was bin foretold when she was pregnant that i would be a great prophet etc. After then like few weeks i started seeing crowd of people with the same faces and all on white looking at me... They are like billions i mean uncountable i can't count them.

From the year 2001 till date they are with me... They don't go away. And i see them with my eyes open... Even if i close my eyes i still see them. They have never talked with me all they have bin doing is look at me since 2001. I have had a live visitation of Angels buh they came to tell me what happened back at home and when i asked my parent all they told me was accurate but it was a fearful experience.. Fear griped me when they came to me i could only communicate with them through ma hrt and they were able to reply me. All i have to say is that i know am not living the christian life as i ought to live. Buh they are der staring and looking at me even at the face of sin all they do is look. Pls i need advice on what to do. Or are they something else? If i try focusing on them to get their true facial look they jst move up and down. Pls i need some spiritual counselling. Am in the university now. And its confusing me. Its would hv bin better if they talk or something. Most of my dreams are to true to the dot. Pls i need counselling

The heart to heart conversation was in 2008 when they brought an information for me. Then i was awake buh jst lying down in bed in a boarding school around 4am when i saw two men walk into my hostel with the faces of my bunk mate... They carried the faces of my two close bunk mates and classmate. I wanted to shout but my voice was seized den after i tried waking my bunk partner cos i was sleeping down bunk but i was weak then they started telling me things i neva knew of back home and when they were done they left and immediately the rising bell was rung. When visiting day came i asked my parent what they told me and everything word for word had taken place. Let me answer ur question now... This is a different thing from what hv bin experiencing since 2001. Its like your eyes being open ur seeing the world around you and at the same time u are seeing people in another realm at the same time but this people keep looking at you without talk all they do is look and look but if am to pray in which i dont pray often.. I get to see them more and more or am singing a worship song buh they never talk. Hope u'v gotten it? Its like ur eyes being open and ur watching a tv thats not visible to others its only you that can see them.

All i need to know is who i truly am.

@2law...
These people wearing white that you are seeing are fallen angels.
And all they are trying to do is to indoctrinate you.

They always come after God's Prophets (from childhood). They try to turn your prophetic gift to something evil to fufil the agenda of Satan.

You have to be extremely careful.
They have also appeared to me. They won't say a word to you but they keep staring straight at you. They come dressed in white robe as angels but they are not angels at all.. They are fallen angels sent to deceive you.

NOTE: IF GOD SENDS AN ANGEL TO YOU, THAT ANGEL WILL HAVE A MESSAGE FOR YOU FROM GOD. ANGELS ARE MESSENGERS OF GOD SENT TO DELIVER A MESSAGE TO HIS CHILDREN

The mind reading thing where you communicate with your mind, you have to stop it. I've done that several times before ignorantly. But it is very harmful and will give demons permission into your life.


Do not try to communicate with these false angels in any way. The next time you see them, tell them to go away in the name of Jesus.
The staring of these false spirits is not ordinary. These fallen angels are so powerful that their constant staring to a person is their way of harming a person from his/mind and they can transfer illness to that person.


They want you to initiate the communication so that it becomes a legal thing to Heaven's authority. If you start the conversation you give them permission into your life.
The only words you should say to them is for them to go away and tell them you have Jesus Christ in your life. Tell them to stop bothering you.

In my own case, they will be persistent and may result to violence when you keep pushing them off. They will always monitor you, every single moment. Truth is you're dangerous to them and they either make you one of them or terminate you..
But they have no authority over you, thank God.

Submit your life totally for God and use your spiritual gift doing the will of God.
Pick up your Christian faith from where you left it. Run back to Jesus Christ. There is no escaping this Spirit without Jesus.

Trust me, Jesus came to me to tell me all about this kind. He told me the spirit wanted to kill me etc.

You really need Jesus. Rededicate your life back to Him.
God be with you.
God bless you.

katyamizotta:
Hello guys, I am glad to have come across this thread: it's a beautiful one.

I got born again in 1993 while in secondary school. I loved God however my relationship with Him was one of the girl who kept on toasting the guy, who wouldn't spare her a glance year after year. (in this case I was the girl and God was the guy)
I was always in church, fellowship or on my way to church/fellowship
After many years without success, I got discouraged and backslid.
Now I'm tired, I'd like to go back to God. After 23 years I've decided even if he doesn't show up I'll just continue on the right path.

My first issue is I've made a habit of some sins and I do them on auto mode.
How do I stop? Please don't tell me to put effort...I have and it didn't work. In fact I'm presently putting effort.

Second issue: whenever I try to pray even for 5 minutes I sleep off. Currently I can't play more than two minutes: I will sleep off regardless of the time of day.

Third what does it mean when all your teeth fall out in your dream. I start crying, and I wake up crying.

Fourth @ Analice, have u started working with the lady who owns a school?

teeth signifies beauty or attraction. your teeth falling off signifies that the arrow of reproach is being fired at you from the kingdom of darkness.


in terms of your prayer life.yes you can't do it by your effort. when you backslide in the past and fell into sin,some demons was introduced into your life.they came in through the legal right of sin.so for you to have a breakthrough in prayers, those demons must be cast out and the open door closed. you can deliver yourself or look for a genuine deliverance minister. salvation and deliverance goes hand in hand.once you accept Jesus, the next step is to undergo deliverance so as to live a victorious life.thats why most Christians still struggle with sin and lust even after being born again. do you get angry easily?

kallmemrB:
you are face with a demon and u think shouting and praying loudly will save u abi I laugh in Chinese.... Someone said something Abt weapon given to us...there's no way u can utilize the weapon if u don't even know how to activate it

2 Cor 10:4 u need to know how to activate the weapon for usage

Bros,

So what is the bases of your argument?

Are you saying we should be whispering in front of the enemy?

If you know what one faces in the deliverance ministry based on praying for people you would know you can't whisper, wjen your life is at steak

Anas09,,, My able evangelist, You made 100 percent ma.

God bless and continue to increase you.

There is oppression everywhere.

Na Jesus sure pass

Have a blessed sunday

katyamizotta:
Hello guys, I am glad to have come across this thread: it's a beautiful one.

I got born again in 1993 while in secondary school. I loved God however my relationship with Him was one of the girl who kept on toasting the guy, who wouldn't spare her a glance year after year. (in this case I was the girl and God was the guy)
I was always in church, fellowship or on my way to church/fellowship
After many years without success, I got discouraged and backslid.
Now I'm tired, I'd like to go back to God. After 23 years I've decided even if he doesn't show up I'll just continue on the right path.

My first issue is I've made a habit of some sins and I do them on auto mode.
How do I stop? Please don't tell me to put effort...I have and it didn't work. In fact I'm presently putting effort.

Second issue: whenever I try to pray even for 5 minutes I sleep off. Currently I can't play more than two minutes: I will sleep off regardless of the time of day.

Third what does it mean when all your teeth fall out in your dream. I start crying, and I wake up crying.

Fourth @ Analice, have u started working with the lady who owns a school?

The Bible says draw near to me and I will draw nesr to you.

You would need to go through a detailed deliverance session.

Enjoy ur Sunday

Anas09:

Really? He gave unto you power to tread upon serpents, scorpions and all other powers of the enemy, yet you pray to him to fight your battles?
Jesus himself said the Kingdom of God suffers violence and the violent takes it by force, this hear is referring to violence agaisnt the kingdom of darkness sir. When Apostle Paul tells us to put on the Whole Armour of God, he didn't mean for us to put on the Armour and go to sleep with them.
Or am I lost?
Oyeludef
Superior1

Good morning sis. There is a very good book by Kenneth hagin titled a Bible study on prayer. Dat books explains d several types of prayers. Wen we pray to God in adoration, we bow in humility before him and tears fall from our eyes at d glory of His presence.
Wen we are making a prayer of petition nd supplication, we are importunate and rend our hearts sometimes like Hanna d mother of Samuel did at shiloh.
Now wen it comes to exercising our Believers authority on d devil, we aren't praying but decreeing, we decree and heaven establishes. Imagine wen paul cast out dat spirit from dat girl with d spirit of divination, imagine d way he must ac did it, will he just b smiling at d demon nd speaking to himself? Remember acts of d apostle wat written by luke who was a companion of paul so he must av heard wen paul yelled at d demon in d girl. See d way our Lord Jesus Christ dealt with demons too, many attime he first commands dem to shutup, den cast dem out. How do u tell a person to shutup? Do u just mumble d words to ursef?
Wen confronted by an unclean spirit, it isn't time to pray to God but to exercise d authority He has given unto u. Wen a landlord is casting out unwanted tenants, u know how it is done. Wen we are exercising our authority, the might of God comes upon us and at times His Spirit even takes over.
Happy Sunday brethren. It is d Lord's day make una go church ooo. Dance and sing unto our Father in fellowship of other Saints.

temi4fash:


Bros,

So what is the bases of your argument?

Are you saying we should be whispering in front of the enemy?

If you know what one faces in the deliverance ministry based on praying for people you would know you can't whisper, wjen your life is at steak

Anas09,,, My able evangelist, You made 100 percent ma.

God bless and continue to increase you.

There is oppression everywhere.

Na Jesus sure pass

Have a blessed sunday

Goodmorning....i do understand ur poinr of view and have been involve in several deliverance exercise....we do declare,command and decree to the demons to leave and that doesnt mean we pray violently like shouting aloud or whispering...we speak with authority....have seen my far share of evil to know violent prayer doesnt really work...all you need is to activate the authority in you....

have you read about Jesus Miracles or his diciples... have you read of them praying violently for deliverance....pls dont tell me the evil then and diff cos as it was in the beginning its now and ever shall it be

oyeludef:

Good morning sis. There is a very good book by Kenneth hagin titled a Bible study on prayer. Dat books explains d several types of prayers. Wen we pray to God in adoration, we bow in humility before him and tears fall from our eyes at d glory of His presence.
Wen we are making a prayer of petition nd supplication, we are importunate and rend our hearts sometimes like Hanna d mother of Samuel did at shiloh.
Now wen it comes to exercising our Believers authority on d devil, we aren't praying but decreeing, we decree and heaven establishes. Imagine wen paul cast out dat spirit from dat girl with d spirit of divination, imagine d way he must ac did it, will he just b smiling at d demon nd speaking to himself? Remember acts of d apostle wat written by luke who was a companion of paul so he must av heard wen paul yelled at d demon in d girl. See d way our Lord Jesus Christ dealt with demons too, many attime he first commands dem to shutup, den cast dem out. How do u tell a person to shutup? Do u just mumble d words to ursef?
Wen confronted by an unclean spirit, it isn't time to pray to God but to exercise d authority He has given unto u. Wen a landlord is casting out unwanted tenants, u know how it is done. Wen we are exercising our authority, the might of God comes upon us and at times His Spirit even takes over.
Happy Sunday brethren. It is d Lord's day make una go church ooo. Dance and sing unto our Father in fellowship of other Saints.

it seems you cant differentiate commands and loud prayers

CharlyG1:


@2law...
These people wearing white that you are seeing are fallen angels.
And all they are trying to do is to indoctrinate you.

They always come after God's Prophets (from childhood). They try to turn your prophetic gift to something evil to fufil the agenda of Satan.

You have to be extremely careful.
They have also appeared to me. They won't say a word to you but they keep staring straight at you. They come dressed in white robe as angels but they are not angels at all.. They are fallen angels sent to deceive you.

NOTE: IF GOD SENDS AN ANGEL TO YOU, THAT ANGEL WILL HAVE A MESSAGE FOR YOU FROM GOD. ANGELS ARE MESSENGERS OF GOD SENT TO DELIVER A MESSAGE TO HIS CHILDREN

The mind reading thing where you communicate with your mind, you have to stop it. I've done that several times before ignorantly. But it is very harmful and will give demons permission into your life.


Do not try to communicate with these false angels in any way. The next time you see them, tell them to go away in the name of Jesus.
The staring of these false spirits is not ordinary. These fallen angels are so powerful that their constant staring to a person is their way of harming a person from his/mind and they can transfer illness to that person.


They want you to initiate the communication so that it becomes a legal thing to Heaven's authority. If you start the conversation you give them permission into your life.
The only words you should say to them is for them to go away and tell them you have Jesus Christ in your life. Tell them to stop bothering you.

In my own case, they will be persistent and may result to violence when you keep pushing them off. They will always monitor you, every single moment. Truth is you're dangerous to them and they either make you one of them or terminate you..
But they have no authority over you, thank God.

Submit your life totally for God and use your spiritual gift doing the will of God.
Pick up your Christian faith from where you left it. Run back to Jesus Christ. There is no escaping this Spirit without Jesus.

Trust me, Jesus came to me to tell me all about this kind. He told me the spirit wanted to kill me etc.

You really need Jesus. Rededicate your life back to Him.
God be with you.
God bless you.

. wow and wow....Mr 2kay i will advice you to go on religious journey urself...most of the things this guy wrote is totally wrong....mind thought/reading is one of the gifts of the holy spirit....

pls you all should be careful of what you write online cos people actually believe you....some of ur advices can actually kill the gift of holy spirit....

kallmemrB:
. wow and wow....Mr 2kay i will advice you to go on religious journey urself...most of the things this guy wrote is totally wrong....mind thought/reading is one of the gifts of the holy spirit....

pls you all should be careful of what you write online cos people actually believe you....some of ur advices can actually kill the gift of holy spirit....

One thing you should understand is that angels don't stare but smile even if they don't have anything to say, I don't think I have ever read somewhere about angels staring. I advice mr 2law to follow what CharlyG1 stated and ask them to leave in the name of Jesus, if they do then you know for sure they are fallen angels but if they don't then you know they are truely God's angels.

Last night I had a double spiritual attack, almost immediately after I advised 2law not to believe in those false angels..
I saw myself struggle with a demon, and the struggle ended with me falling off my chair in the physical realm.

I prayed. But this demon came again while I slept. I was having a dream and God opened my eyes in that dream to see that in the physical realm as I lay down, a demon was about to attack me.. So it translated in the dream as a person who came to me and griped my throat trying to suffocate me but I overcame and loosed the grip of the demon off me, as my physical body shook in the struggle. Then I woke up.

Attacks come for sure but God waves them off. With each attack a person overcomes, His /Her spirit grows stronger by the grace of God. The Lord sometimes allow this to happen for special reasons.
But behold we have overcome the powers of darkness.


Anyone here that is not from God will surely be exposed. It's not about how well you recite the scriptures or twist it to satisfy a point.
But it is about Who you carry on your inside. If you are of Jesus, it will be made known. If you of the devil, it will be made known.


There is no defeating the will of God on this thread because this thread is from God.
I have not seen a person who deliberately stood against the will of God and succeeded.


Mind reading/communication done at will is telepathy which is witchcraft which is a serious sin unto God. I have done this several times ignorantly, digging up people's thoughts through this means.


I remember one day in campus when I was still spiritually weak. I had a girlfriend who was sleeping in my room on one particular night. We laid on the same bed. And then I put my head close to hers, drifted off a bit out from the unconscious.. I started hearing her thoughts. These thoughts was saying something's I was meant to do for her to have sex with me (this girl always refused sex with me in real life). At a point I spoke back through my mind to the voice and the voice replied me. I kept doing that for about 3mins until I realized I had been communicating with a demon or a witchcraft spirit.
I pulled myself out from the mind reading, looked at the girl. She seemed to be asleep but I knew something was wrong.
Even when I tried to sleep, I would hear voices from within her.

I never slept with that girl. Each time I touched her she complained that my body was just too hot. Some girls complained of the same thing too.


Mind reading can only be initiated by the Holy Spirit and not by self will. When it's done consciously, it is witchcraft.
The Lord opened my mind to read a person's thought while i was at the university. I shared this story at the beginning of this thread. I was discussing with this girl in our theater hall in school.. The girl was shaking like she had fever. I could see her body trembling a bit and she tried to cover it up. As we spoke, suddenly I heard this girl say to me
'You think you can run away from me, you won't! I am not from this world and you won't run away from me'


I actually thought the girl spoke because it was soooo clear vocally. And when I questioned her at that moment about what she said, she sincerely denied ever saying a thing like that.
I got to realize the Holy Spirit just allowed me to read her mind and this was done to reveal the evil purpose she had against me.


So you see, when God allows this gift to function, He does it at His own will like every other gift to reveal the works of darkness, to save a person from harm and to bring glory to His Name.

The gift of discernment of spirits, interpretation of dreams, healing etc. All work with the move of the Holy Spirit. The prophetic gifts are the very sensitive ones and they need constant relationship with the Holy Spirit to grow very strong. When a person sins so much, he/she loses insight into the things of the Spirit gradually and this reduces the strength of the gift within that person. Sin suppresses the move of the Holy Spirit to utilize that gift fully through that person.


Though when a person is in sin, the gift could still work but only through the mercies of God. God may still choose for gift to function at several points even when a person is in sin (that's God for you). But for the gift to be fully functional at all times, it requires a close relationship with God and putting off backsliding and sin.
It will be evident when your spirit is weakened by sin, there will be signs like lack of dreams/visions, a feeling of emptiness, backwardness in real life, laziness to search the scriptures and to pray, weakness that only appears when it comes to things of God, night pressing on the bed, oppression, tormenting dreams, mind pollution etc.


I pray the Lord opens the eyes of our heart to understand the hidden secrets and deceits of the kingdom of darkness.

God bless us all. Amen

I wish to clarify with a physical example on the nature of the gift of the Spirit. The more you cut off your relationship with God, the more you become weak and under utilize your spiritual gift.


Take for example. You put water in a pot and set it up on your gas cooker, you turn on your gas cooker and let the fire from the cooker boil the water.

Now, the pot represents a person
The water represents the gift within that person
And the Fire represents the Holy Ghost.


When the fire (Holy Spirit) is put on, it heats the pot (Person) which makes the pot and water( person & spiritual gift) hotter and hotter over time.

The longer the Fire(that is the more relationship with God/Holy Ghost), the hotter the pot with the water in it(that is the more a person grows in the Spirit, the stronger the gift).

At a point ripples began to form in the water. At this stage of hotness a person becomes too hot for Satan to touch.

But when the Fire (Holy Ghost) is turned off, the pot and water begins to cool off, becoming Lukewarm water and finally becomes cool water or cold water.


*Three kinds of spiritual stages*.

Hot, Lukewarm and Cold.


Jesus talked about this to us in the book of Revelation chapt 3 vs 16.
Which says:

Since you are lukewarm and neither hot nor cold, I am going to spit you out of my mouth.

Jesus doesn't want the lukewarm or cold christian. But He wants us hot, being in a constant relationship with Him, doing His will.
It's either you're for Jesus or Satan. There is no sitting on the fence.


So turn the heat back up if you've grown cold. Be in constant relationship to God your Father. Always speak to Him, read His word and do His will.
Turn on the Fire. Do not quench the Fire (Holy Ghost) 1 Thessalonians Chapter 5 vs 19.



God bless us as we obey in Jesus Name.. Amen

Kenneth4u205:
you are right.Christians are living a life of defeat today because they are ignorant of their authority,power and weapons. God gave you a loaded gun to shoot demons.yet most Christians are still asking God to come and pull the trigger for them.I have been in the deliverance ministry for a while now.you don't whisper to demons during deliverance.demons don't let go of their possession without a fight.the children of Israel never took hold of the promise land without a serious warfare.yet it was a promise from God,but the have to fight to posses it.do they whisper to the inhabitant of the land to move out?. NO.

I love the way you speak. God bless you Kenneth.

@Analice.. And God bless you too Analice a.k.a Anas09

kallmemrB:
. wow and wow....Mr 2kay i will advice you to go on religious journey urself...most of the things this guy wrote is totally wrong....mind thought/reading is one of the gifts of the holy spirit....

pls you all should be careful of what you write online cos people actually believe you....some of ur advices can actually kill the gift of holy spirit....

God bless you bro... I know what i see can't be fallen angels or demons.. Cos i remembered when someone lied about me and i was flogged in front of the whole school.. I went home and cried and i told them if they truely were angels from the Lord that they should go revenge for me that i wanted her to have accident to prove that they angels sent to me.. To my greatest surprise our class was informed that she had a serious accident that we should pray that it is complicated that it has affected her seriously leading to internal bleeding.. I had to bow my head and i prayed 4 her.. When i went home i cried again that i don't want her to die and i informed mum and she told me that i she knew who i was cos she was told in church while she was pregnant of me and she told me to be careful of what i said. That was 2006. She came bk to sch after 3 weeks till date she doesnt know that it was cos of the lie she said

2law:
God bless you bro... I know what i see can't be fallen angels or demons.. Cos i remembered when someone lied about me and i was flogged in front of the whole school.. I went home and cried and i told them if they truely were angels from the Lord that they should go revenge for me that i wanted her to have accident to prove that they angels sent to me.. To my greatest surprise our class was informed that she had a serious accident that we should pray that it is complicated that it has affected her seriously leading to internal bleeding.. I had to bow my head and i prayed 4 her.. When i went home i cried again that i don't want her to die and i informed mum and she told me that i she knew who i was cos she was told in church while she was pregnant of me and she told me to be careful of what i said. That was 2006. She came bk to sch after 3 weeks till date she doesnt know that it was cos of the lie she said

Wow! Do angels cause accidents? To kids? Enlighten me

JMG1:

One thing you should understand is that angels don't stare but smile even if they don't have anything to say, I don't think I have ever read somewhere about angels staring. I advice mr 2law to follow what CharlyG1 stated and ask them to leave in the name of Jesus, if they do then you know for sure they are fallen angels but if they don't then you know they are truely God's angels.

they have bin looking at me since 2000 and my grandmum of her blessed memory who had this kind of gift said mine is much higher than hers told me that when the appointed time that they will begin speaking to me and revealing secrets to me that people around me will call me names like wizard and the rest.. My mum has the same gift and i find my self having a higher form of it..

katyamizotta:


Wow! Do angels cause accidents? To kids? Enlighten me

i don't know but i cried and prayed and said if i was innocent that i want her to hv an accident i said that cos of the shame and pain i went through in skul. Buh now i know better i can't say that. I was in primary sch by den

2law:
God bless you bro... I know what i see can't be fallen angels or demons.. Cos i remembered when someone lied about me and i was flogged in front of the whole school.. I went home and cried and i told them if they truely were angels from the Lord that they should go revenge for me that i wanted her to have accident to prove that they angels sent to me.. To my greatest surprise our class was informed that she had a serious accident that we should pray that it is complicated that it has affected her seriously leading to internal bleeding.. I had to bow my head and i prayed 4 her.. When i went home i cried again that i don't want her to die and i informed mum and she told me that i she knew who i was cos she was told in church while she was pregnant of me and she told me to be careful of what i said. That was 2006. She came bk to sch after 3 weeks till date she doesnt know that it was cos of the lie she said

Wow! Listen to yourself for a moment. So Angels cause accidents to little kids? So Angels fulfil a wicked objective for your own desire? So you can actually command Angels at your wish? This reminds me of Aladdin and the Genie.
Aladdin and his Guardian Angel Genie (demon).


Well.. if you wish to believe a lie, there is nothing no one can do about it. I guess you are comfortable believing what you choose to believe. You're not here to know what's really happening to you. You're here for us to tell you what you want to hear. I'm starting to think that maybe you have already been indoctrinated. It's funny that just after I advised you against this, a demon attacked me fiercely in a couple of hours..

Anyway, Let me say what you would like to hear:

I guess you have super powers. Wow. Good luck to you and your so called angels.

CharlyG1:


Wow! Listen to yourself for a moment. So Angels cause accidents to little kids? So Angels fulfil a wicked objective for your own desire? So you can actually command Angels at your wish? This reminds me of Aladdin and the Genie.
Aladdin and his Guardian Angel Genie (demon).


Well.. if you wish to believe a lie, there is nothing no one can do about it. I guess you are comfortable believing what you choose to believe. You're not here to know what's really happening to you. You're here for us to tell you what you want to hear. I'm starting to think that maybe you have already been indoctrinated. It's funny that just after I advised you against this, a demon attacked me fiercely in a couple of hours..

Anyway, Let me say what you would like to hear:

I guess you have super powers. Wow. Good luck to you and your so called angels.

you should be mindful of what you say bro... You should not run into conclusions that what am seeing is a demon or fallen except u hrd directly from God. When you talk often abt the kingdom of darkness and demons what do u expect to see in your dreams? am not good in bible recitation. The bible said meditate this things.. What ever thing is true, pure, holy etc.

2law:
you should be mindful of what you say bro... You should not run into conclusions that what am seeing is a demon or fallen except u hrd directly from God. When you talk often abt the kingdom of darkness and demons what do u expect to see in your dreams? am not good in bible recitation. The bible said meditate this things.. What ever thing is true, pure, holy etc.

Alright 2law..
I'll let you be. I'm sorry if I got you offended.
I was only trying to be helpful.

God be with you in Jesus Name.. Amen

2law:
you should be mindful of what you say bro... You should not run into conclusions that what am seeing is a demon or fallen except u hrd directly from God. When you talk often abt the kingdom of darkness and demons what do u expect to see in your dreams? am not good in bible recitation. The bible said meditate this things.. What ever thing is true, pure, holy etc.

I think you should thread carefully and be sure of what you have..

The Bible says test all spirits. ?

Spiritual things are very very deep... Its all enclosed in mysteries take out time to understand and you am sure you will be better for it.

If you know you have a gift then go to where children of God are and fellowship, you would see people who would help you.

I pray that God will help you

2law:
God bless you bro... I know what i see can't be fallen angels or demons.. Cos i remembered when someone lied about me and i was flogged in front of the whole school.. I went home and cried and i told them if they truely were angels from the Lord that they should go revenge for me that i wanted her to have accident to prove that they angels sent to me.. To my greatest surprise our class was informed that she had a serious accident that we should pray that it is complicated that it has affected her seriously leading to internal bleeding.. I had to bow my head and i prayed 4 her.. When i went home i cried again that i don't want her to die and i informed mum and she told me that i she knew who i was cos she was told in church while she was pregnant of me and she told me to be careful of what i said. That was 2006. She came bk to sch after 3 weeks till date she doesnt know that it was cos of the lie she said

I will advise you as a brother to totally ignore kallmemrB so as not to go wrong.let me illustrate to you the things of the spirit.you have two physical eyes right?.and with this physical eyes you can see good and wicked people right?. Don't tell me that you only see good people with your physical eyes.now the same is applicable to spiritual eyes.with spiritual eyes you can see both angels and demons.if you are close to God and live a holy life,you will be seeing more of angels since your spirituals eyes are open. Likewise you will be seeing demons or demons that disguised to be angels if you are not that close to God.what you are actually seeing are demons that pretend to be angels.but don't feel bad about that because its part of your training.God ordained and allowed it so that you will learn to discern between true light and false light.so you can see its part of your training and you ought to be happy about that.remember what happened in your hostels when you were unable to shout or move your body?. It is called sleep paralysis(google it).it is caused by demons or dark energy.it happened to me also on a daily basis back then in sec school.those entity that immobilized you feed on negative emotion of fear.they cause you to fear and then feed on that energy of fear.remember also that the came with the face of your two friend?. Yea demons are good in using peoples face to appear to people .angels don't use peoples face that you know when the appear to you.rather angels will appear as a total stranger,not imitating someone else face.remember also that they started telling you about the past?.angels don't always appear just to tell you what has already happened.angels mostly tell you things that will happen in the future so as to help you make the right decisions.what use is it telling me that I played football yesterday? .it is mostly demons that dwells more on the past because they can't see the future,but rather guise .remember also the little girl you asked the angels to punish with accident and it happened?. Angels don't cause accident my brother.those are demons pretending to be light.but you have to be happy because you have a great gift and God is only training you in the area of discernment.once you learn to identify those false angels,the next level of your gift will start manifesting.but above all ,you have to be very close to God in holiness and prayers .you have to feed on the bible day and night so as to sharpen your discernment.good luck brother. Once again avoid kallmemrB.he has a false spirit within to lead many here astray

2law:
you should be mindful of what you say bro... You should not run into conclusions that what am seeing is a demon or fallen except u hrd directly from God. When you talk often abt the kingdom of darkness and demons what do u expect to see in your dreams? am not good in bible recitation. The bible said meditate this things.. What ever thing is true, pure, holy etc.

I really don't have profound knowledge about angels, but what raised my concern is that in one of your posts, you said that you asked the angels to harm a kid and they did. This to me portends negativity. Again, you said that your grandma has the gift, your mom has it too, and so, I wanna ask: is your grandma a true born again Christian? When do they usually appear...is it when you are spiritually blazing, or at any time, even when you're in sin? The fact that the gift appears hereditary matters a lot.
Whether what you see is fallen angels or angels of God, only you can determine that if you want to, but know that angels of darkness can disguise as angels of light, and can even be deceptively helpful. Please dear, don't be too sure of anything until you get them tested. You have authority, use it. You can command them in the name of Jesus to reveal their nature and master, instead of waiting for their directives. Note that children of God receive messages from both God and Satan, it is the spirit of discernment and knowledge of God's Word that helps one to know the voice of God and the voice of error. Don't get irked when reproved (even when the person is wrong) rather, prove yourself/test the person's position with the Word instead. Pastor Kenneth Hagin admitted that he operated on erroneous doctrine for 15yrs, but that doesn't make him a false man of God. It simply shows that every believer ought to be teachable. God bless your soul.

katyamizotta:
Hello guys, I am glad to have come across this thread: it's a beautiful one.

I got born again in 1993 while in secondary school. I loved God however my relationship with Him was one of the girl who kept on toasting the guy, who wouldn't spare her a glance year after year. (in this case I was the girl and God was the guy)
I was always in church, fellowship or on my way to church/fellowship
After many years without success, I got discouraged and backslid.
Now I'm tired, I'd like to go back to God. After 23 years I've decided even if he doesn't show up I'll just continue on the right path.

My first issue is I've made a habit of some sins and I do them on auto mode.
How do I stop? Please don't tell me to put effort...I have and it didn't work. In fact I'm presently putting effort.

Second issue: whenever I try to pray even for 5 minutes I sleep off. Currently I can't play more than two minutes: I will sleep off regardless of the time of day.

Third what does it mean when all your teeth fall out in your dream. I start crying, and I wake up crying.

Fourth @ Analice, have u started working with the lady who owns a school?

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Falling teeth means lost glory
If you find it difficult to pray start by reading your psalms

[quote author=katyamizotta post=45844398]Hello guys, I am glad to have come across this thread: it's a beautiful one.

I got born again in 1993 while in secondary school. I loved God however my relationship with Him was one of the girl who kept on toasting the guy, who wouldn't spare her a glance year after year. (in this case I was the girl and God was the guy)
I was always in church, fellowship or on my way to church/fellowship
After many years without success, I got discouraged and backslid.
Now I'm tired, I'd like to go back to God. After 23 years I've decided even if he doesn't show up I'll just continue on the right path.

My first issue is I've made a habit of some sins and I do them on auto mode.
How do I stop? Please don't tell me to put effort...I have and it didn't work. In fact I'm presently putting effort.

Second issue: whenever I try to pray even for 5 minutes I sleep off. Currently I can't play more than two minutes: I will sleep off regardless of the time of day.

Third what does it mean when all your teeth fall out in your dream. I start crying, and I wake up crying.

Fourth @ Analice, have u started working with the lady who owns
Fallen teeth means lost glory
If you find it difficult in praying start by reading your psalms and pray against spiritual weakness