realmindz:

up Croatia

lol . It was a late goal sha .

dollyjuke:
Winners01 please what are driving out to people by this topic i dont understand

I just hope you ask the same questions when atheists open threads to belittle christians.


Nick Rowe, an atheist, messages a christian page with a threat and hateful comments towards Christianity. His comment and page
reply are posted.

winner01:
Please. By all means, lets examine the facts.
If all Islamic militant groups today continue to kill at this rate for the next 60 years, the number of lives that will be lost will still be lesser to the number of lives lost to atheism in the last century alone.
I can provide facts.
So my point is: it is no coincidence.
Hatred is definately one of the motivations and resultant factors for atheism.

Gbam ! Gbammer !! Gbammest ! !!

dollyjuke:
Lol i see sign of BAN am keeping my mouth shut sir...Respect

Being very critical about someone's claims can't get you a ban . We Christians are just being critical here - any response is backed with cogent proof .

KingEbukaNaija:


Gbam ! Gbammer !! Gbammest ! !!

Thanks ma man.

Shelley Randle, an atheist, laughs at militant atheism, which has resulted in a death toll of over 250 million people in the 20th century. This continues today in atheist states today.

KingEbukaNaija:


Wait ... what ?

Here , read :

The secular world has condemned all types of slavery. You cannot take people as slaves after defeating their armies in battle. Debtors cannot be sold into slavery. You can enslave neither fellow citizens nor foreigners. It's unacceptable, period. The secular world's morality is superior to the bible in this case because it recognizes that it is simply unacceptable for human beings to be owned and traded as property. The secular world condemns slavery while the Bible merely regulates it.

Seun:
Atheists can be good or bad. Atheism doesn't make you a good person.

How does an atheist differentiate good from bad?
You know, when I class something as bad, I base my judgment on societal morals which originates from the fact that someone up there sees my action and frowns at it. And I, as a person, need to live to make Him happy rather than sad. Now I ask, Seun, since an Atheist believes not in God, who we all know is all Good and deserving of our love, on what object does he base his beliefs of an action to be bad?

Keyword: Bad, Atheist, God

KingEbukaNaija:


Being very critical about someone's claims can't get you a ban . We Christians are just being critical here - any response is backed with cogent proof .

Exactly.

Chris Botta, a militant atheist, mocks the persecution of believers in the atheist state of the USSR.

karleone:


How does an atheist differentiate good from bad?
You know, when I class something as bad, I base my judgment on societal morals which originates from the fact that someone up there sees my action and frowns at it. And I, as a person, need to live to make Him happy rather than sad. Now I ask, Seun, since an Atheist believes not in God, who we all know is all Good and deserving of our love, on what object does he base his beliefs of an action to be bad?

Keyword: Bad, Atheist, God

You don't have to believe in god before you know what's morally good or bad, it's for this main reason we have laws and rules in the society. Do i have to believe in god to know that taking someone else property is stealing? No. Do i have to believe in a sky being to know that helping the needy is good? No. It all depends on how you want to see though

karleone:


How does an atheist differentiate good from bad?
You know, when I class something as bad, I base my judgment on societal morals which originates from the fact that someone up there sees my action and frowns at it. And I, as a person, need to live to make Him happy rather than sad. Now I ask, Seun, since an Atheist believes not in God, who we all know is all Good and deserving of our love, on what object does he base his beliefs of an action to be bad?

Keyword: Bad, Atheist, God

Good question.

Hollie Pemberton, a militant atheist, requested that her words be used as an example of atheistic intolerance.

karleone:
How does an atheist differentiate good from bad?
You know, when I class something as bad, I base my judgment on societal morals which originates from the fact that someone up there sees my action and frowns at it. And I, as a person, need to live to make Him happy rather than sad. Now I ask, Seun, since an Atheist believes not in God, who we all know is all Good and deserving of our love, on what object does he base his beliefs of an action to be bad?

Keyword: Bad, Atheist, God

Even if you do something that your interpretation of the bible recognizes to be bad, you can just ask God for forgiveness afterwards. The truth is that an invisible loving Daddy who will forgive you of absolutely anything and wash you white as snow if you ask for forgiveness because all the bad things you will ever do have already been paid for by the precious blood of Jesus is a very weak moral motivator.

Other things like your reputation and the way you feel about yourself are the real motivators. Also the possibility of being caught and arrested or lynched.

What is good is what is ethical and fair, what you would accept if someone else did it to you, what would lead to a better society if everyone was doing it, what would make you feel proud of yourself, etc. You may not be conscious of your real moral motivators, but they are there.

BeastAmbition:



You don't have to believe in god before you know what's morally good or bad, it's for this main reason we have laws and rules in the society. Do i have to believe in god to know that taking someone else property is stealing? No. Do i have to believe in a sky being to know that helping the needy is good? No. It all depends on how you want to see though

Your perception of good and bad has been overwhelmingly influenced by religion.
The rules and laws in the UssR was against christians and others alike. Does that make it right?
Society and people dont determine what is wrong or right, so who does?

Skunk Runner, a militant atheist, wishes disease upon those that do not share his atheistic beliefs.

winner01:
Your perception of good and bad has been overwhelmingly influenced by religion.
The rules and laws in the UssR was against christians and others alike. Does that make it right?
Society and people dont determine what is wrong or right, so who does?

Skunk Runner, a militant atheist, wishes disease upon those that do not share his atheistic beliefs.

Which Religion? Since you seems to know me than i know myself. My perception of good and bad is only influenced by what's right and wrong. You don't have to believe in any sky being to know what's good from what's bad. The rules and laws in USSR was not against christians, it was against any form of religious observance, which makes it a crime purnishable by law if anyone refuse to adhere.

Society and people determines what's wrong and right not god.

Man made/makes laws and rules not god

BeastAmbition:


Which Religion? Since you seems to know me than i know myself. My perception of good and bad is only influenced by what's right and wrong. You don't have to believe in any sky being to know what's good from what's bad. The rules and laws in USSR was not against christians, it was against any form of religious observance, which makes it a crime purnishable by law if anyone refuse to adhere.

Society and people determines what's wrong and right not god.

Man made/makes laws and rules not god

So what exactly is right and wrong, since what is wrong to you may be right to me.


Mark Nebenfuhr, an atheist, praises the persecution of the religious under the militant atheism of the People's Republic
of China.

winner01:
So what exactly is right and wrong, since what is wrong to you may be right to me.


Mark Nebenfuhr, an atheist, praises the persecution of the religious under the militant atheism of the People's Republic
of China.

The fact that Mark Nebenfuhr praises the act doesn't mean it's right to/approved by all other atheists, don't make the mistake of using one man to judge a whole group.

BeastAmbition:



The fact that Mark Nebenfuhr praises the act doesn't mean it's right to/approved by all other atheists, don't make the mistake of using one man to judge a whole group.

Okay!


Atheists have a history of not tolerating views that are different from their own: http://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=JtGDoq0wyZU

winner01:
You made a claim that bill gate and wife were atheists, I disproved that. I gave you direct links on the speeches of Bill and melinda. Now you want pictures . Why not give me pictures or links of them proclaiming atheism.

James Pestilence, a militant atheist, brags about his supposed sexual encounters with women who believe in God. Perhaps he
should watch the documentary Unearthed to see how harmful what he advocates is.

How does This Pic Have Anything To Do With Bill Gate No By The Way Atheist Don't proclaim They Are Atheist Esp Someone Like Bill But Their Works And Action Will Show U I Wonder Why A Theist Will Be Spending Billions on Ai

LIKE I Said Do U Wanna Play The Pic Game??

Seun:
That's a profoundly stupid thing to say for two reasons:
- Early Christians lived like communists. They shared all their possessions with each other. A couple was actually killed by God because they lied in order to keep some of their money to themselves. That's a communist frame of mind.
- All the richest capitalists in the world are non-religious. Certainly they are not communists.

I think you are mixing up Communalism with Communism....

winner01:
Okay!


Atheists have a history of not tolerating views that are different from their own: http://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=JtGDoq0wyZU

Is it right to say all muslims are terrorist because some muslims are terrorist? i don't get what you driving at.

Seun:

Even if you do something that your interpretation of the bible recognizes to be bad, you can just ask God for forgiveness afterwards. The truth is that an invisible loving Daddy who will forgive you of absolutely anything and wash you white as snow if you ask for forgiveness because all the bad things you will ever do have already been paid for by the precious blood of Jesus is a very weak moral motivator.

Other things like your reputation and the way you feel about yourself are the real motivators. Also the possibility of being caught and arrested or lynched.

What is good is what is ethical and fair, what you would accept if someone else did it to you, what would lead to a better society if everyone was doing it, what would make you feel proud of yourself, etc. You may not be conscious of your real moral motivators, but they are there.

Who decides what is good and what isnt?

winner01:


Who decided what is good and what isnt?

The human society. That is why what is good or bad varies from society to society and from period in time. Your God has nothing to do with morality since he is imaginary. All moral laws are man made, people only use the various God ideas that created as an enforcing mechanism. Even the societies that use to sacrifice their enemies or children to their God's did so with the support of their various imaginary God's. Men created all the moral codes of conduct and used what ever concept of God as an enforcing mechanism. When slavery was OK your God was even advising people on how to sell their daughers into slavery in the bible.

winner01:
Share this with Dalaman.


Florance Quigly, a militant atheist and possible administrator of several facebook pages that advocate hatred towards the religious, including one that advocates silencing (massacring) the lambs (religious believers) commented on an FFAF post that
we are delusional. Contrary to propaganda spouted off by Quigly, science shows that religion is associated with better
mental health: http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/diane-bederman/mental-illness-religion_b_4595872.html

Religion is also associated with a more healthier society in general: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=558264474196024&set=a.296894256999715.69511.278360458853095&type=1&relevant_count=1

Florance Quigly's profile is named: https://www.facebook.com/felatio.queen

It shamefully advocates pornography. Let this be a lesson to believers that we should take our kids to worship every week so that they might not end up with a perverted mind. Quigly's lack of parenting may have resulted in her atheism, as that is directly
related to the Psychology of Atheism: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=565995053422966&set=pb.278360458853095.-2207520000.1371239203.&type=3&src=https%3A%2F%2Ffbcdn-sphotos-b-a.
akamaihd.net%2Fhphotos-ak-ash4%2F215234_565995053422966_1813822834_n.jpg&size=491%2C381

What is this? I have seen christians wish death and harm on atheist here on Niraland so what the hell are you saying? Christianity has made Nigeria a better society how? Name one country that christianity has made better. Just one.

winner01:
Wait a minute. I saw dalaman viewing this thread.

Dalaman, abeg take this takeaway package.

Cody Laws, a militant atheist from Johnson City (Tennessee) supports his partner, the leader of an atheistic hate group, Jessica Swain. Moreover, Cody Laws promotes forced sodomy.

I can go to various right wing christian groups and grab as many hate filled messages against non christians and atheist and post here. ANY fool can play that game. I will only reference well and balance reporting from reputatable news outlets. Christian intoleranceis responsible for the backlash they get from atheist in the US today as confirmed by time magazine.

http://time.com/3450525/atheists-arent-the-problem-christian-intolerance-is-the-problem/

KingEbukaNaija:


After I have proven that God and the bible do not support slavery ? Winner01 , I think this young man is frustrated that his rebuttals are easily refutable .

I have also shown that the whole of the south of the United States of America perverted the bible to endorse slavery. This is an irrefutable fact as they are very proud of their heritage. The bible belt is also the most racist area of America.

I wonder why these southern bible thumpers are the most bigoted and raced while the Liberal states like Newyork, New Jersey are tolerant and multicultural ?

As for you insistence that Atheism is responsible for the atrocities of communism, it is unsurprising given that you are the king of trolls

winner01:


Who decided what is good and what isnt?

C.S. Lewis is obviously very ignorant here of what the moral instinct is.

winner01:
You are replying this cos you care my friend.



Steven Sheinfeld, a atheist, should realize that research shows that religiosity and education are directly proportional before she calls believers 'stupid' source.

Perhaps he should also accept that
atheism has historically been a main cause of the suppression of science source.

Sheinfeld should read about the arguments before making such claims: http://bethinking.org/

An excerpt from your link...

“It all falls down to what you consider to be religious,” said Schwadel, an assistant professor at the University of Nebraska-Lincoln. “If it’s simply attending religious services, then no. Highly educated people are not less religious; in fact, they’re more religious.”

“But if it’s saying the Bible is the literal word of God and saying that only one religion is the true religion, then they are less religious,” he continued.

winner01:


Who decided what is good and what isnt?

How is Christianity morality the bastion of all morality? A lot of crimes has been perpetuated in the name of the so-called Christian morality.

Other civilisations survived without the Christian morality. The dark ages when the church ruled over Europe was perhaps the bloodiest in European history.

Morality is very subjective as even minor things like the role of women in the home varies from culture to culture with the Europeans rejecting the biblical subjugation of women in recent times

BeastAmbition:



Is it right to say all muslims are terrorist because some muslims are terrorist? i don't get what you driving at.

What I'm driving at is simple. Atheism is not always peaceful.

dalaman:


The human society. That is why what is good or bad varies from society to society and from period in time. Your God has nothing to do with morality since he is imaginary. All moral laws are man made, people only use the various God ideas that created as an enforcing mechanism. Even the societies that use to sacrifice their enemies or children to their God's did so with the support of their various imaginary God's. Men created all the moral codes of conduct and used what ever concept of God as an enforcing mechanism. When slavery was OK your God was even advising people on how to sell their daughers into slavery in the bible.

Why the bitterness? Does this thread look like it seeks to discuss the topic of God?


This atheistic facebook supports the destruction of houses of worship. It was liked by another atheistic facebook page. Indeed
militant atheists have a history of destroying synagogues, mosques, churches, temples, etc. because these houses of worship promote beliefs different than their own: http://www.youtube.com/watchv=FAzW5zb35ok

winner01:
What I'm driving at is simple. Atheism is not always peaceful.

You are very right, and I agree. And religion is not always violent. However there is another tacit point that you probably don't realise that you are making. That is that Human nature is prone to violence and that Religion does nothing to curb this, no religion despite the claims of many can actually change man and give him a 'new nature' as some claim. Humanity will always remain very human, being something quite noble and empathetic and other times quite nasty and violent.

In other words, just as all these atheistic ideologies are man made and show all the characteristics of humanity in their history, so it is with religions, all man made and all showing the typical characteristics of humanity in their history.

PastorAIO:


C.S. Lewis is obviously very ignorant here of what the moral instinct is.

Okay sir.

Without the Theodosian Code of Christianity, the very issues that Bakker condemns would still be legal: http://www.christiannewswire.com/news/9985571743.html