Ibime:


There is no doubt that Conte knows what he is missing. . . . that has never been the question. . . . the question has always been that Emenalo has no clue what he is missing. . . . and who could possible help from his development squad.




All this one na English.

With Matic and Kante there, Ake would still be next in line. Conte no send Fabregas.

Ake is currently the best left-back at Chelsea. All this grammar no go help matter. Did Emenalo not want him to develop as a midfielder when he sent him to Watford to play Left-Back last season?

A young player would take any position to establish himself in a top team and does not care whether it is midfield or left back.

If you ask the boy today to stay and take the no3 shirt, he would prefer that than going on loan to play midfield. Alaba did not argue when he got chance to establish himself at Bayern as a left-back, neither does Kimmich complain when he is played right-back. They both see themselves as midfielders.

Ake came to Chelsea as a centre-back sef, then learned midfield and left-back work. It is not like he is picky.

Ake is currently our no1 leftback. Chelsea does not have a leftback solution within the team other than him. What are we discussing here, Chelsea's needs or the needs of another club?

Emenalo is just trying to protect his flop signing Baba Rahman.

I don't see how Emenalo is trying to protect Rahman...it's not as if Rahman even sees first team shirt.

Anyway I don't think Ake is ready to be our first choice left back. Contrary to what a lot of people think on here, he wasn't actually that good at Watford. It wasn't that difficult to win young player of the year at Watford when he was actually the only player in the first team under the age of 25..plus Watford finished 14th in the league.

That being said...he is a very good player for his age.

Comparing Alaba and Kimmich to Ake makes zero sense at all. Not only were those two far ahead of Ake in terms of talent, both actually had several seasons of professional football under their belt before entering the Bayern 1st team.

Kimmich had 2 full seasons in the German equivalent of the Championship and League 1. Alaba had 3 full seasons professional footy in Germany as well as some Austrian Bundesliga experience before he was ready for the 1st team at Bayern

If your argument is that Ake should be allowed to play any position just so he can get a shirt in the first team, I dont know what to say to that.

What I do know though is that Ake has indicated that he wants to play at Central midfield and believes that Conte(and Emenalo) feel the same way. I think that there is simply no space for him in the midfield with us right now, and cannot fault a decision to send him out on loan to develop elsewhere. At this stage of his career, he needs regular minutes to keep developing, not piecemeal 5 minutes here or there.

Griffon:
Chelsea are reportedly set to complete the signing of Leicester City star N’Golo Kante. Meanwhile, what's up with Costa? I read somewhere that the ninja has handed in a transfer request.

That guy should gerrahia.

lalaboi:
Nihilist making more sense here. .

Its not a bad idea sending him out on loan to develop as a 'Midfielder' and not a Left back . .

Also this could go bad and Howe may well play him as left back more than midfield as risk of losing him. Most managers will not depend on loanees to make their season. .

Its not such a bad call. Free emenalo this time. .

It may not work out at midfield at Bournemouth. It may not even work out at LB for him. But this is where Nathan must earn his stripes. He has to somehow fight his way into contention there. Bournemouth are a better club than Watford. He is now being tested at a higher level than last season. I think either way Nathan has been given a great opportunity to shine with this move.

Kante's Medical in 48 hours

Conte turned Giacherini to Rivaldo
Parolo to Ballack
Eder to Romario


And the greatest of all,he has turned Emenalo to Sabatini!!!

Kante deal on sky sports.
Just waiting for official confirmation.
I'm so happy we're signing the best DM in europe.

Hope Conte brought back room staff? Or Emenalo is imposing on him to use the ones at the Club?

Griffon:
Chelsea are reportedly set to complete the signing of Leicester City star N’Golo Kante. Meanwhile, what's up with Costa? I read somewhere that the ninja has handed in a transfer request.

Costa should be sold with immediate effect(Naija go say as e dey hot). Get me a new striker to compete with batshuayi.

Kolade354:
Kante deal on sky sports.
Just waiting for official confirmation.
I'm so happy we're signing the best DM in europe.

Lol. Best indeed.

Chestar5:

we no get light

Smh...

Nihilist:

That guy should gerrahia.

Who be Costa sef? Ohhh, that una fighter ba?

Nihilist:


I don't see how Emenalo is trying to protect Rahman...it's not as if Rahman even sees first team shirt.

Anyway I don't think Ake is ready to be our first choice left back. Contrary to what a lot of people think on here, he wasn't actually that good at Watford. It wasn't that difficult to win young player of the year at Watford when he was actually the only player in the first team under the age of 25..plus Watford finished 14th in the league.

That being said...he is a very good player for his age.

Comparing Alaba and Kimmich to Ake makes zero sense at all. Not only were those two far ahead of Ake in terms of talent, both actually had several seasons of professional football under their belt before entering the Bayern 1st team.

Kimmich had 2 full seasons in the German equivalent of the Championship and League 1. Alaba had 3 full seasons professional footy in Germany as well as some Austrian Bundesliga experience before he was ready for the 1st team at Bayern

If your argument is that Ake should be allowed to play any position just so he can get a shirt in the first team, I dont know what to say to that.

What I do know though is that Ake has indicated that he wants to play at Central midfield and believes that Conte(and Emenalo) feel the same way. I think that there is simply no space for him in the midfield with us right now, and cannot fault a decision to send him out on loan to develop elsewhere. At this stage of his career, he needs regular minutes to keep developing, not piecemeal 5 minutes here or there.

At what point would you actually agree a youth player of ours is ready to be in the first team?

Not that I am accusing you of anything however, over the years I have noticed you have always been skeptical about players from our youth team and I am beginning to wonder why?

@ the bolded above, there's clearly no rules which states a youth player should go on several loans before earning a position in the first team. Except I am greatly mistaking,how many loan move did bellerin,stones,eric dier,sterling e.t.c embark on before getting a real go at the first team?

I sincerely feel this akes loan deal is fvcked up!!! Especially when we still have a cvnt like baba in the team. Ake may not be an Ashley Cole or an Alaba or kimmich burr he should have been in this team!

Nihilist:


Kimmich had 2 full seasons in the German equivalent of the Championship and League 1. Alaba had 3 full seasons professional footy in Germany as well as some Austrian Bundesliga experience before he was ready for the 1st team at Bayern

Ake = 1 year in Prem plus 1/2 year in Championship

Kimmich = 1 year in Bundesliga 2 and 1 year in Bundesliga 3

Please wetin you dey yarn, cos I no understand you.

Even if Ake shines in Bournemouth una go say na small club. Our players who shined in Werder Bremen, Mochengladbach, Everton and West Brom, what happened to them.

Mario Pasalic who shined in Monaco last year, have you created space for him?

When Ake comes back from loan, will you create first team space for him, or won't be still become a squad player that he could be this season - if you get rid of phucking Mikel and Rahman.


Every young player that makes the first team first starts as a squad player. No phucking big team earmarks a place in the first 11 for them. Over the season they take their chances like Harry Kane, Eric Dier, Kimmich etc.

After Bournemouth he will still come and be a squad player. You are yarning opaks about him getting more experience when phucking Rahman and Mikel are still being relied on. Are we discussing the needs of Chelsea or another club?

One thing you guys don't know, Bayern can decide to use their academy and still finish top 4 in bundles Liga unlike chelsea or any other top epl team. Chelsea always want to win something every season so that pressure is always there for any coach they hire, which make the coach(es) to find it difficult to introduce an academy player into the team. If we want to talk of Southampton that pressure to win something is not there even if they have a target( probably not to finish at the bottom) so they have that effrontery to introduce academies.

What I am trying to say is that we should stop comparing how Bayern use their academy and Chelsea don't.

There are some players in Bayern or Barca that are ordinary but today, the world see them as world class players, e.g, Alaba, Sergio bousquet, Valdez and pique. These players as.s are covered as a result of their team dominance in their various leagues. They are prone to errors but since their team will still win at the end of the match so no p unlike in epl were it is difficult to win, players have to play their hearts out.

How can introducing a youth player stop us from winning a trophy or two?

For Christ sake.....! Ryan Bertrand played a very key role when we won our very first UCL.

It is really disgusting to see CFC without a single youth player to show for, after several years of stockpiling and poaching this guys from order clubs!

Right now, I don't know if I am even more irritated at the club for fvcking the life's of this kids or the fans who spring/cook up all sorts of excuses to support this club fvcking youth policies.

There is definitely something fundamentally wrong here!!!

Where do I begin with some guys here??

I bet Rashford was on Van Basten's level when he started banging it in for United

Ake has to be on Alaba and Kimmich's level to displace Baba Rahman that is not on Juwon Oshinawa's level.....Haha,fear God ooo


Hesben,how will youth players stop us from winning?
How will replacing Mikel with Ake,Oscar with Baker,Pedro with Musonda stop us from winning.....

The pix below was the line up for a U-19 cup game in 2007,Both teams were at the same level,3 went on to play for Bayern ..
Sane,Meyer and all other Schkale young wizards were flogged home and away by our boys,I think the one in England was even 6-0 sef just weeks before 5 of those boys went ahead to light up Santiago
Imagine Sane in our youth setup,are you telling me he is not good enough for our team? Or replacing Pedro with Sane will reduce our chances to win a trophy? Madness

When we had Kakuta that was on Alaba's level,what did we do with him?

I can't shout on youth matter again abeg

Ibime:


Ake = 1 year in Prem plus 1/2 year in Championship

Kimmich = 1 year in Bundesliga 2 and 1 year in Bundesliga 3

It's difficult to have a decent conversation with a liar. Before Ake's stint at Watford, his total experience in professional football was 5 games during a 1 month stint at Reading.. How this translates to a 1/2 year in the Championship is beyond me.

I don't want to weaken the debate by arguing semantics here, but please you need to stop telling porkies.

Every young player that makes the first team first starts as a squad player. No phucking big team earmarks a place in the first 11 for them. Over the season they take their chances like Harry Kane, Eric Dier, Kimmich etc.

After Bournemouth he will still come and be a squad player. You are yarning opaks about him getting more experience when phucking Rahman and Mikel are still being relied on. Are we discussing the needs of Chelsea or another club?

Be that as it may, Harry Kane played 5 full seasons of professional footy before he got a chance at Spurs, Dier had roughly around 2 full seasons, Kimmich IS NOT A BAYERN ACADEMY PLAYER.

Ake has had 1 full season and he did well. Unlike most of his Chelsea colleagues, he has now been given the opportunity to shine at 2 EPL clubs. The fact that Chelsea are actively looking to test him in the EPL suggests that this could be one for the future. I cannot fault this 2nd loan. Let him shine again then come back. Ake needs minutes right now. And he will not have gotten those minutes either at LB or in Midfield with us this season

bigkesh:
Where do I begin with some guys here??

I bet Rashford was on Van Basten's level when he started banging it in for United

Rashford got his chance because LVG's hand was forced by injury. Granted he took his chance well but Rashford was really the only success of the myriads of players that he gave chances. Ask about Blackett, Mcnair etc

You may not have noticed, but the first thing united have done this season was sign a 34 year old striker to join Rooney and Martial. Not everybody is as idealistic as you.

Ake has to be on Alaba and Kimmich's level to displace Baba Rahman that is not on Juwon Oshinawa's level.....Haha,fear God ooo

Ake is not better than Rahman. I don't know why you guys keep repeating this crap. Ake is not even a left back. He's good defensively but that's it. Hear him

“I’ve never played left-back constantly so I’m not used to getting forward,” Ake admitted recently. “If you play four or five games in a row your fitness gets better and you understand the game more and more every time. That is important for my development.


Baba Rahman has had 1 season where he didn't even play half the time and the other half he was having to adapt to an incredibly different kind of league. Ake and Baba are age mates...but not in football experience

The pix below was the line up for a U-19 cup game in 2007,Both teams were at the same level,3 went on to play for Bayern ..
Sane,Meyer and all other Schkale young wizards were flogged home and away by our boys,I think the one in England was even 6-0 sef just weeks before 5 of those boys went ahead to light up Santiago
Imagine Sane in our youth setup,are you telling me he is not good enough for our team? Or replacing Pedro with Sane will reduce our chances to win a trophy? Madness

I don't think you understand the fundamental difference between reserve team footy in Germany and in England.

In England the reserve teams play other reserve teams. Junior playing Junior and that's it. In Germany and in Spain, the reserve teams of the big clubs actually play in profssional leagues. The level of competition is already very different and the scope for growth is far larger. That is one of the reasons why young English players are stagnating...they generally lack experience.

Also you canot compare the pressure at Schalke to the pressure at Chelsea. You think Conte has time to be raising youth?

OFFICIAL: Agreement reached between LCFC and CFC over Kante.

KANTELELE IS HERE

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It is a good thing we now have kante. I hope we can now focus on fixing the backline especially the three position.

Since we have been linked to getting a CB already, which is good! We should be fine with zouma,ivanovic,cahill,terry,the new cb n chris(who could be on his way to another loan move).

I hope conte will consider bringing back Wallace as a back up to azi. Though, I must confess that, I hv not watched in play for sometime now.

Baba rahman is a unique one for me. I clearly do not rate him and if possible want him out however, conte will be in a better position to determine if he wants him at the club and if he will be the first choice LB. I only pray he improves if he stays back but more importantly we get a better LB before the window closes.

Chelsea ti sign kante

bigkesh:
Where do I begin with some guys here??

I bet Rashford was on Van Basten's level when he started banging it in for United

Ake has to be on Alaba and Kimmich's level to displace Baba Rahman that is not on Juwon Oshinawa's level.....Haha,fear God ooo


Hesben,how will youth players stop us from winning?
How will replacing Mikel with Ake,Oscar with Baker,Pedro with Musonda stop us from winning.....

The pix below was the line up for a U-19 cup game in 2007,Both teams were at the same level,3 went on to play for Bayern ..
Sane,Meyer and all other Schkale young wizards were flogged home and away by our boys,I think the one in England was even 6-0 sef just weeks before 5 of those boys went ahead to light up Santiago
Imagine Sane in our youth setup,are you telling me he is not good enough for our team? Or replacing Pedro with Sane will reduce our chances to win a trophy? Madness

When we had Kakuta that was on Alaba's level,what did we do with him?

I can't shout on youth matter again abeg

The problem still lies on what i said earlier. Those other clubs youth players will make it to their senior team because;

-They are not rich enough to keep hold of their players season in season out.

-They don't have competition( I.e, the league is monopolized, in case of bayern).

LVG try to build the team around youth but that's not what fans want at the moment. They want their club to be formidable again hence, the signing of mou, ibra, miki n bailey. I believe more are still coming.

FYI, bayern sold Rhode, an academy player to Dortmund already.

diggz:



At what point would you actually agree a youth player of ours is ready to be in the first team?

Not that I am accusing you of anything however, over the years I have noticed you have always been skeptical about players from our youth team and I am beginning to wonder why?

@ the bolded above, there's clearly no rules which states a youth player should go on several loans before earning a position in the first team. Except I am greatly mistaking,how many loan move did bellerin,stones,eric dier,sterling e.t.c embark on before getting a real go at the first team?

I sincerely feel this akes loan deal is fvcked up!!! Especially when we still have a cvnt like baba in the team. Ake may not be an Ashley Cole or an Alaba or kimmich burr he should have been in this team!

I just even dey see this.

I've never been against youth integration. My only point is that it has to be the right youth at the right time.

None of those players you mentioned there are academy products for their respective teams. And all of those guys are exceptional. Bellerin in particular is one of the fastest players in the world. He is actually faster than Usain Bolt over 40 metres. You cant compare these prodigies to the likes of Ake and Boga because they are all youth in the same way you cant compare Ronaldo and Messi to Graziono Pelle because they are adults.

You don't see me complaining about Zouma or Lukaku or Courtois. Coman is the same age as Solanke but they are not mates on the pitch.

I just don't buy into playing youth players because they are our youth players.

kpokwem

diggz:
It is a good thing we now have kante. I hope we can now focus on fixing the backline especially the three position.

Since we have been linked to getting a CB already, which is good! We should be fine with zouma,ivanovic,cahill,terry,the new cb n chris(who could be on his way to another loan move).

I hope conte will consider bringing back Wallace as a back up to azi. Though, I must confess that, I hv not watched in play for sometime now.

Baba rahman is a unique one for me. I clearly do not rate him and if possible want him out however, conte will be in a better position to determine if he wants him at the club and if he will be the first choice LB. I only pray he improves if he stays back but more importantly we get a better LB before the window closes.

Christensen is already on loan at Gladbach till next season

No Zouma in the traveling squad, is he not back from injury yet
GOALKEEPERS: Asmir Begović, Jamal Blackman, Matej Delac

DEFENDERS : John Terry, Branislav Ivanović, Matt Miazga, Baba Rahman, Michael Hector, Ola Aina, Papy Djilobodji

MIDFIELDERS: Mikel, Nemanja Matić, Ruben Loftus-Cheek, Jordan Houghton, Nathaniel Chalobah, Cristian Cuevas

ATTACKERS: Diego Costa, Loïc Rémy, Bertrand Traroré, Kenedy, Oscar, Willian, Victor Moses, Christian Atsu

Kante is here. Can't help but wonder why he is not interested in UCL for this season?

FBS:
Kante is here. Can't help but wonder why he is not interested in UCL for this season?

kudi cash ego

amodu:
No Zouma in the traveling squad, is he not back from injury yet

GOALKEEPERS: Asmir
Begović, Jamal Blackman,
Matej Delac


DEFENDERS : John Terry,
Branislav Ivanović, Matt
Miazga, Baba Rahman,
Michael Hector, Ola Aina,
Papy Djilobodji


MIDFIELDERS: Mikel,
Nemanja Matić, Ruben
Loftus-Cheek, Jordan
Houghton, Nathaniel
Chalobah, Cristian Cuevas


ATTACKERS: Diego Costa,
Loïc Rémy, Bertrand
Traroré, Kenedy, Oscar,
Willian, Victor Moses,
Christian Atsu

I don't like this...it looks like a stewpeed TD actually recommeded some youth for training afterall. A whopping 13 players aged 23 and below.
Mehn I can only pray that I dont get unjustified hate in my own life the way Boda Emenalo gets it. Amen.

FBS:
Kante is here. Can't help but wonder why he is not interested in UCL for this season?

One season UCL

Nihilist:


It's difficult to have a decent conversation with a liar. Before Ake's stint at Watford, his total experience in professional football was 5 games during a 1 month stint at Reading.. How this translates to a 1/2 year in the Championship is beyond me.

I don't want to weaken the debate by arguing semantics here, but please you need to stop telling porkies.

Don't call me a liar nigga. At most tell us it is a lie, or that I am mistaken. Respect yourself please.

bigkesh:

Ake has to be on Alaba and Kimmich's level to displace Baba Rahman that is not on Juwon Oshinawa's level.....Haha,fear God ooo

I tire o.

Nihilist:

Ake is not better than Rahman. I don't know why you guys keep repeating this crap. Ake is not even a left back. He's good defensively but thats it.

Shut up please. I struggle to recall a single game last season where Rahman did not make several mistakes. He was downright cringeworthy.

Nihilist:


I don't like this...it looks like a stewpeed TD actually recommeded some youth for training afterall. A whopping 13 players aged 23 and below.
Mehn I can only pray that I dont get unjustified hate in my own life the way Boda Emenalo gets it. Amen.

Nihilist you are better than this!!
Even my kid brother knows they are there because the main guys are resting....Solanke,Colkett and co dey play under-19 euros
He had no choice man

He should have sent just 11 players on a preseason tour na

Thank God you even highlighted Miazga,Hector and Papy.....Should those guys even have anything to do with us in the first place if our TD isn't brain dead?