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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 3:54am On Jul 22, 2016
We are going to defeat the barbarians of ISIS and we are going to defeat them fast
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 3:58am On Jul 22, 2016
"As president, I will do everything in my power to protect the LGBTQ community from a hateful ideology (referencing the terror attack on the Orlando gay night club)"
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 4:02am On Jul 22, 2016
Anyone who endorses hatred or violence, is never ever welcome in our country - Trump
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 4:36am On Jul 22, 2016
Donald Trump spoke for 1 hour and 14 minutes - the longest acceptance speech at a major party national convention in about 4 decades.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 4:43am On Jul 22, 2016
CFCman:
Donald Trump spoke for 1 hour and 14 minutes - the longest acceptance speech at a major party national convention in about 4 decades.
And he said nothing about policies. He just threw red meats to his rabid bigoted supporters about immigration and building walls. Nothing about economics or how to improve on the current situations.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 4:50am On Jul 22, 2016
Aftermath of Trump's speech

Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Stalwert: 8:49am On Jul 22, 2016
CLEVELAND—Here is a line from Donald Trump’s speech to the nation, delivered Thursday at the Republican National Convention. It comes early in the speech, part of his broad case that the United States is soaked in blood and rife with chaos.


JAMELLE BOUIE
Jamelle Bouie is Slate’s chief political correspondent.

“Decades of progress made in bringing down crime are now being reversed by this administration’s rollback of criminal enforcement. Homicides last year increased by 17 percent in America’s 50 largest cities. That’s the largest increase in 25 years.”

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At best, this is a half-truth. The federal government isn’t responsible for local crime prevention, but even if it were, the national homicide rate is at a 40-year low, according to the FBI. Homicides have increased in the nation’s largest cities but from low baselines unseen since the 1960s. There are still areas of high violent crime, but overall, Americans are safer now than they’ve been in a generation.

It’s not clear Donald Trump knows that. But it’s obvious he doesn’t care. The point is not to give the public an accurate sense of its safety. The point is to paint a picture of disorder and violence, to scare Americans into flocking under Trump’s banner. And to that end, he has crafted a demagogic speech of lies, misrepresentations, and plain, unadulterated bullshit.

Consider this, another “fact” from Trump’s address: “Nearly 180,000 illegal immigrants with criminal records, ordered deported from our country, are tonight roaming free to threaten peaceful citizens.”

This is the first of Trump’s dubious assertions of immigrant crime. And it’s nonsense, a “fact” without provenance beyond the nativist and white supremacist websites that form the fetid swamps of the internet.

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The truth is that unauthorized immigrants are far less crime-prone than their native-born counterparts. According to one analysis of 2010 Census data, just 1.6 percent of immigrant males ages 18 to 39 were incarcerated, compared with 3.3 percent of native-born males. According to a report from the Center for Investigative Reporting, 4 out of 5 arrests for drug smuggling on the U.S.-Mexico border involved American citizens. There is no credible analysis that shows a meaningful connection between unauthorized immigrants and violent crime or otherwise. And that’s before we get to the most important fact of the immigration debate: Barack Obama has deported more immigrants than any other president before him.

Or how about this assertion? “The irresponsible rhetoric of our president, who has used the pulpit of the presidency to divide us by race and color, has made America a more dangerous environment than, frankly, I have ever seen and anybody in this room has ever watched or seen.”

It’s ludicrous. As I’ve written, there’s no reading of President Obama’s rhetoric on race and racism—from shootings by police, like those in Ferguson and elsewhere, to shootings of police, in Dallas and Baton Rouge—to support the claim that he’s “dividing” by race and color. And it’s not borne out by the numbers. Obama’s approval rating stands over 50 percent. He has overwhelming support from black Americans, Hispanic Americans, and Asian Americans. A substantial minority of whites also back him. If there’s a figure in American life who is dividing the country by race and color, it is Donald Trump, who crashed onto the national scene with a campaign of breathtaking bigotry against immigrants and Muslims, who has broadcast racist messages and deployed anti-Semitic propaganda.

The whole speech was a trash heap of falsehoods. At one point, Trump claimed that Obama had almost doubled the national debt. It actually increased from $11.1 trillion to $19.2 trillion. He described an America of record unemployment and disadvantage. Even granting the decline in labor force participation, there are more Americans working now than at any point in the past 10 years, with two years of the strongest

He described an America of record unemployment and disadvantage. Even granting the decline in labor force participation, there are more Americans working now than at any point in the past 10 years, with two years of the strongest private sector job growth since the 1990s. He attacked the administration’s Iran deal for giving the nation “$150 billion” (false). He accused Obama and Hillary Clinton of opening the United States to “massive refugee flows” (false) and suggested there’s no screening of refugees (also false).

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The most egregious part of Trump’s speech deals with trade. It’s where he sells a simplistic story and makes outlandish, unrealistic promises to renege on and renegotiate America’s trade deals. As the Economic Policy Institute explained to Greg Sargent of the Washington Post—after Trump cited EPI’s work on manufacturing—Trump on trade is “is a scam that seems to be offering a path for workers but actually just offers mostly empty boxes on trade and steers the discussion back toward the traditional corporate agenda.”

Scam. This gets to the essential truth of Trump’s speech. The world as described by Trump doesn’t exist. The Trump as described by Trump doesn’t exist. As a businessman, Donald Trump’s career is defined by failure, fraud, and mismanagement. He has little knowledge of domestic and foreign affairs and shows little interest in the basic work of running a campaign, much less serving as president. Remove family members and employees from the mix, and there’s no one in Trump’s orbit—not ghostwriters, not business associates, not former contractors—who will attest to any of the qualities he claimed onstage tonight. The prototypical Trump story isn’t the success of some municipal project; it is theft: from small businesses, from ordinary investors, from desperate students.

Over the past year, Trump has harnessed and deployed bigotry and hate for political gain. He has shown himself to be erratic, intemperate, and dangerously ignorant of the world around him. Despite this, the Republican Party has elevated him with its highest honor and placed him and his authoritarian impulses within reach of the White House.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2016/07/donald_trump_s_speech_was_just_another_scam.html#lf_comment=544053747

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Stalwert: 8:52am On Jul 22, 2016
Trump low on sensible points and high on lies and divisive rhetorics.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 12:39pm On Jul 22, 2016
Stalwert:
Trump low on sensible points and high on lies and divisive rhetorics.
It's all about throwing red meats to his bigoted rabid supporters. That place doesn't look like America. Only 18 of 2,497 delegates are Blacks. In a diverse country that will be majority minority country in 30 years. That's why he's going to lose in a big way come November 8.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by ValerianSteel(m): 1:42pm On Jul 22, 2016
In 2009, there were calls to put Bush / Cheney on trial for their role in launching the invasion of Iraq.

Newly-elected President Obama quashed that idea. He reasoned that an investigation and trial would not be good for the country. It was a controversial decision, but it was understandable. Obama knew that prosecuting the former president would be difficult, and it would rend the political fabric of the nation.

Compare Obama's decision in 2009 to Trump's stance on Hillary today. Forget an investigation. Forget a fair trial. Trump has called for Hillary to be in jail, period. That's quite a contrast, isn't it?

Of course, no one has ever accused Trump of being judicious. He has his own problems with lawsuits against him and allegations of fraud. Trump is a notorious critic of the federal courts. I do not regard him as a champion of the rule of law.

And what about Hillary's alleged "crimes?" At least her actions have been investigated by the FBI, congressional committees, etc. After decades of public scrutiny, she has never been indicted or charged with a crime -- not even a misdemeanor.

That doesn't stop Trump from calling for her to be jailed. It doesn't stop his supporters from chanting, "Lock her up!" And it didn't stop one guy from calling for her to be shot by a firing squad.

What has happened to civility and decorum in American politics?

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 2:09pm On Jul 22, 2016
[quote author=ValerianSteel post=47784592][/quote]It all sums up to one sentence. CONVETION OF HATE.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 5:05pm On Jul 22, 2016
Secretary Clinton to reveal her VP choice via text message.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by ValerianSteel(m): 5:13pm On Jul 22, 2016
Lucasbalo:
It all sums up to one sentence. CONVETION OF HATE.
and CLOWNS.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by ValerianSteel(m): 5:29pm On Jul 22, 2016
CFCman:
Secretary Clinton to reveal her VP choice via text message.
Some of us have been staring at our phone screens for a while now.What a sweet suspense she's put everyone in even the media cause nobody knows who it will be.Most people guess Kaine,but there are awesome choices in her shortlist that makes it so hard to predict.

What we know,she's to announce in Miami later on today.First she's expected to make a stop over in Orlando and give a speech to families of the Pulse shooting.Senator Warren is expected to arrive in Orlando as well in a few hours.

Tim Kaine is fundraising in Boston,Perez is at the White House with Obama and Mexican President.

Her campaign says she would appear with her running mate at Miami International University,my guess Elizabeth is the only person on the shortlist at the same location with her.

My opinion is she should pick James Stavridis,he brings a firm steadiness in foreign policy and national security or she should pick Warren,let's lock up the millenial and women votes.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by stanech: 8:50pm On Jul 22, 2016
uniklinkum:


This is the dumbest comment on cyberspace since creation, is your principal not against immigrants taking American jobs?? Ditto for the make America dumb apparel outsourced to China and Mexico, when your mantra is to start a trade isolation. You and your principal have a zig zag logic.

Liberals do not get it.
If his competitors are taking advantage of immigrants do you expect Mr Trump to fold his hands and watch his company go down the drain for not being able to compete?

It is not the job of the private sector or an individual to identify and fix those stupid policies it is the job of the government.

Trump's number one priority as a business man is profit but as a president it would be service to the nation,.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by ValerianSteel(m): 9:56pm On Jul 22, 2016
Any moment from now,we'll know who it is.I don't want Kaine honestly,if it's him.It's a fair choice as well.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by ValerianSteel(m): 12:06am On Jul 23, 2016
Loving this.

Hillary said "next four years" and the crowd roared "eight,eight,eight,eight".

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by ValerianSteel(m): 12:10am On Jul 23, 2016
The RNC found their voice in "Lock her up",we got a sweet reply to that-"Lock him out".

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by RedCapChief(m): 12:18am On Jul 23, 2016
Wikileaks released some interesting emails from the DNC today. Still waiting for Bernie's official reaction. grin
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by ValerianSteel(m): 12:19am On Jul 23, 2016
Let's make sure the next president comes from this stage an arena of love not the gathering of clowns that has produced a champion for hate and divisiveness.Let's prove to the world that we're better than this.There's only one voice for the American people,it has never been Destructive Donald,it should never be him and will never be him.Just as Ted Cruz rightly said-"Vote your Conscience".Let that conscience be the candidate for the next chapter in American History-Hillary Rodham Clinton.

#StrongerTogether

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by ValerianSteel(m): 1:14am On Jul 23, 2016
She picked Kaine.All aboard the train however.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 1:17am On Jul 23, 2016
ValerianSteel:
She picked Kaine.All aboard the train however.

Tim Kaine is a centrist/governing choice who won't excite the liberal base. But he is an effective person when it comes to governance

It's now up to Obama and Warren to excite the base

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by ValerianSteel(m): 1:20am On Jul 23, 2016
RedCapChief:
Wikileaks released some interesting emails from the DNC today. Still waiting for Bernie's official reaction. grin




I'm not surprised and he shouldn't.We all know Hillary had been the presumptive nominee since she conceded to Obama.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by ValerianSteel(m): 1:22am On Jul 23, 2016
CFCman:


Tim Kaine is a centrist/governing choice who won't excite the liberal base. But he is an effective person when it comes to governance

It's now up to Obama and Warren to excite the base
He is the balanced and safe choice.helps us win Virginia which is most important.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 1:24am On Jul 23, 2016
ValerianSteel:
Let's make sure the next president comes from this stage an arena of love not the gathering of clowns that has produced a champion for hate and divisiveness.Let's prove to the world that we're better than this.There's only one voice for the American people,it has never been Destructive Donald,it should never be him and will never be him.Just as Ted Cruz rightly said-"Vote your Conscience".Let that conscience be the candidate for the next chapter in American History-Hillary Rodham Clinton.

#StrongerTogether
You nailed it. The Amateur clown show is over in Cleveland. The city crew is fumigating the Quicken Loan Arena to get rid of that hateful odor.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 1:27am On Jul 23, 2016
ValerianSteel:
She picked Kaine.All aboard the train however.
I hope Kaine can go out and be very aggressive . It's showtime now.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 1:29am On Jul 23, 2016
We will see the real America starting from Monday in the city of Brotherly Love not the Hateful Dog and Pony show we just witnessed in Cleveland .

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by ValerianSteel(m): 1:30am On Jul 23, 2016
Lucasbalo:
You nailed it. The Amateur clown show is over in Cleveland. The city crew is fumigating the Quicken Loan Arena to get rid of that hateful odor.
Love trumps hate and we'll show them what a Convention looks like.

As it is now,we just won Virginia with Kaine,if we win Pennsylvania,Trump has 0 chances of becoming president.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by ValerianSteel(m): 1:34am On Jul 23, 2016
Lucasbalo:
I hope Kaine can go out and be very aggressive . It's showtime now.
He will and no way Pence can compete with him on a debate stage.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 1:35am On Jul 23, 2016
ValerianSteel:
Love trumps hate and we'll show them what a Convention looks like.

As it is now,we just won Virginia with Kaine,if we win Pennsylvania,Trump has 0 chances of becoming president.
Not to change the topic, what do you think about the shooting in North Miami couple days ago?.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by ValerianSteel(m): 1:38am On Jul 23, 2016
Lucasbalo:
Not to change the topic, what do you think about the shooting in North Miami couple days ago?.
I was beyond horrified.He even had the guts to spill he had no idea why he shot.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 1:44am On Jul 23, 2016
ValerianSteel:
I was beyond horrified.He even had the guts to spill he had no idea why he shot.
That is the scary one too. Why would someone shoots without a reason. I hope the police never do wrong people see that. It's a shame and I hope he's indicted for attempted murder. Our good friend The Grand Wizard David Duke is running for Senator in Louisianna as a Republicon. Party of Bigots. No surprise.

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