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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 12:24pm On Jul 26, 2016
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 12:26pm On Jul 26, 2016
lordfalcao:
the kind talk I dy see here dy scatter my head... how can someone choose lukaku over Diego costa?. Put Diego Costa in Everton and lukaku will become second choice.

You can imagine!

I didn't even want to talk on that comparison sef.

Lukaku no be dis one wey I dey watch almost week in week out? Everton would have been FA Cup final last season but this same Lukaku cost them the semi final against Manchester Utd...I was so furious that day!

Diego Costa even with all his temper is better than 10 Lukakus
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 12:57pm On Jul 26, 2016
timbros:


I'm no fan of Morata either.

You should know better than asking that bolded question.

But to answer your question....Morata has a UCL medal, 1 La Liga, 2 Copa Del Rey, 2 Serie A, 2 Copa Italia, UCL tots. Lukaku has just 1 FA Cup and 1 joint UEL top scorer....Who is greater?

In international level, Lukaku has 14 goals after 49 appearances while Morata is played 13, scored 6..that's almost 0.5 goal per game.......Please who is greater?

Lukaku is just a big fish in a small pond. Take that same 'big' fish to a big pond and it will disappear.

Banging 100 goals in West Brom/Everton is not the issue, let him do so in a bigger club. Morata started in Real Madrid, went on loan to another big club (Juventus) and proved himself. Ever wondered why Zidane desperately wants him back to Madrid?

No be only British media dey over hype EPL players, we for dis forum dey follow hype them too much.

I still repeat Morata>>>Lukaku anytime any day.

*Modified*

Talking about youth football, in the national team...

Lukaku played 10 matches (from U15 to U21) and scored 2 goals.

Morata played 34 matches (U17 to U21) and scored 29 goals.....abeg who is greater?


You just listed team successes to justify why morata is a better player to lukaku.....lol..are you now suffering from dayokanus syndrome or what?

Do you mind listing moratas contributions towards the achievement of those things you listed?

Hope you are aware that there is an expensive way of generalising things, and that is exactly what you have just done...? I actually can't wait to see what Nihilist reaction will be like,when he reads what you have typed grin even though he is also guilty of generalising stuffs this days.

Bros please, can you tell me which club vardy played for last season and seasons before and how many goals he has scored in is professional career sofar?

While you are at it,kindly tell us how many goals morata scored for the so called big teams he has played for! Mind you lukaku is just about 4months moratas senior.

Lastly, hope you are even aware that you just claimed,strikers in smaller teams are better set up to perform better than those in bigger teams?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 1:04pm On Jul 26, 2016
lordfalcao:
the kind talk I dy see here dy scatter my head... how can someone choose lukaku over Diego costa?. Put Diego Costa in Everton and lukaku will become second choice.

Please before your head scatter finish, kindly read through to understand the convo!

I will personally choose lukaku over Diego all day, everyday because while lukaku plays football, Costa wants to fight all day. If him dey score goals like suarez while fighting, problem for no dey!

I am very sure most peeps will gladly choose any striker ahead of that fighter with no goals and useless attitude .
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 1:38pm On Jul 26, 2016
Lukaku is better than all male descendants of the Morata dynasty.

Morata is only lucky that he has been a member of some title winning sides.

That la liga title that timbros is referring to is a good example - Morata played only eight minutes of league football that year.
Copa del Rey 2010/2011 - Morata registered 13 minutes only.

At Juventus, it's safe to say that a 10 year old child, wearing a Juventus shirt and roaming the streets of Turin has a better chance of winning the league than AC Milan.

5 Serie Titles in a row for Juventus says more about the moribund state of affairs in Italy than it does about Morata.

Lukaku is Morata's God. No Argument.

p.s Lukaku is better than Diego Costa IMO.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 1:53pm On Jul 26, 2016
diggz:


You just listed team successes to justify why morata is a better player to lukaku.....lol..are you now suffering from dayokanus syndrome or what?

Do you mind listing moratas contributions towards the achievement of those things you listed?

Hope you are aware that there is an expensive way of generalising things, and that is exactly what you have just done...? I actually can't wait to see what Nihilist reaction will be like,when he reads what you have typed grin even though he is also guilty of generalising stuffs this days.

Bros please, can you tell me which club vardy played for last season and seasons before and how many goals he has scored in is professional career sofar?

While you are at it,kindly tell us how many goals morata scored for the so called big teams he has played for! Mind you lukaku is just about 4months moratas senior.

Lastly, hope you are even aware that you just claimed,strikers in smaller teams are better set up to perform better than those in bigger teams?

Generalising things how? Fact remains that Morata has those medals in his cabinet, Lukaku don't.

It is noteworthy how you conveniently overlooked their goal ratio for both youth and NT. Was those not the areas you claimed Lukaku was greater?

If Lukaku was that good, then let Barcelona or Real Madrid come for him and let him play 8 minutes and get a UCL medal.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 1:55pm On Jul 26, 2016
Nihilist:
Lukaku is better than all male descendants of the Morata dynasty.

Morata is only lucky that he has been a member of some title winning sides.

That la liga title that timbros is referring to is a good example - Morata played only eight minutes of league football that year.
Copa del Rey 2010/2011 - Morata registered 13 minutes only.

At Juventus, it's safe to say that a 10 year old child, wearing a Juventus shirt and roaming the streets of Turin has a better chance of winning the league than AC Milan.

5 Serie Titles in a row for Juventus says more about the moribund state of affairs in Italy than it does about Morata.

Lukaku is Morata's God. No Argument.

p.s Lukaku is better than Diego Costa IMO.

Your opinion.

Stats says otherwise.

How is Lukaku better than Costa?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 2:00pm On Jul 26, 2016
timbros:


Generalising things how? Fact remains that Morata has those medals in his cabinet, Lukaku don't.

It is noteworthy how you conveniently overlooked their goal ratio for both youth and NT. Was those not the areas you claimed Lukaku was greater?

If Lukaku was that good, then let Barcelona or Real Madrid come for him and let him play 8 minutes and get a UCL medal.

I don't see how you can use youth team footy to compare Morata and Lukaku. The reason Lukaku played so few youth games is because he made his NT debut aged 16.

Lukaku is better than Morata, Mr Morata and Uncle Morata combined. Even Morata's mum would slap you for saying such blasphemous things.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 2:02pm On Jul 26, 2016
timbros:


Your opinion.

Stats says otherwise.

How is Lukaku better than Costa?

There is no stat in this world and the world to come that would suggest that Morata is better than Lukaku.

Ditto Costa
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 2:06pm On Jul 26, 2016
Nihilist:


I don't see how you can use youth team footy to compare Morata and Lukaku. The reason Lukaku played so few youth games is because he made his NT debut aged 16.

Lukaku is better than Morata, Mr Morata and Uncle Morata combined. Even Morata's mum would slap you for saying such blasphemous things.

I didn't start the youth thing. This is where youth football came in...

diggz:


I am no fan of lukaku but morata greater than him ain't right bro.

How is morata even greater than lukaku? Just how...?

As a matter of fact the only thing greater about morata before and at the moment, is the guys price tag..... Not a single thing! Not youth goals, not professional club goals and definitely not national team goals....

Lukaku is a god compared to morata....
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 2:08pm On Jul 26, 2016
Nihilist:


There is no stat in this world and the world to come that would suggest that Morata is better than Lukaku.

Ditto Costa


So tell us, how is Lukaku better than Morata?

Ditto Costa.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 2:12pm On Jul 26, 2016
timbros:


So tell us, how is Lukaku better than Morata?

Ditto Costa.

The easiest way to compare strikers is to check their goal stats.

Morata has 25 career league goals. Lukaku has over 100.

Lukaku is younger too.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lordfalcao(m): 2:20pm On Jul 26, 2016
diggz:


Please before your head scatter finish, kindly read through to understand the convo!

I will personally choose lukaku over Diego all day, everyday because while lukaku plays football, Costa wants to fight all day. If him dey score goals like suarez while fighting, problem for no dey!

I am very sure most peeps will gladly choose any striker ahead of that fighter with no goals and useless attitude .

costa fights a lot but still score Good goals... that's true but lukaku plays lackadaisical football any day anytime. the truth is still the same lukaku is no match for Costa. like I said earlier put costa in Everton team and lukaku will become 2nd choice.
there is nothing lukaku has done that costa haven't,can't do x10
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 2:25pm On Jul 26, 2016
lordfalcao:
costa fights a lot but still score Good goals... that's true but lukaku plays lackadaisical football any day anytime. the truth is still the same lukaku is no match for Costa. like I said earlier put costa in Everton team and lukaku will become 2nd choice.
there is nothing lukaku has done that costa haven't,can't do x10

Actually Lukaku has regularly outscored Costa for most of his career.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 2:27pm On Jul 26, 2016
Nihilist:


The easiest way to compare strikers is to check their goal stats.

Morata has 25 career league goals. Lukaku has over 100.

Lukaku is younger too.

Haba Nihilist, you don pass this level nah...

Lukaku made his senior appearance in 2009 and has played more than 200 matches. His career league goals is not up to 100. It's 93.

Meanwhile, Morata debuted in 2010, playing just 100 matches so far.

Bar Chelsea, Lukaku is the main striker in all his clubs whereas Morata constantly fights for shirt. How do you expect Morata's goal ratio to superior Lukaku's?

You haven't told us about Lukaku/Costa yet...
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 2:41pm On Jul 26, 2016
timbros:


Generalising things how? Fact remains that Morata has those medals in his cabinet, Lukaku don't.

It is noteworthy how you conveniently overlooked their goal ratio for both youth and NT. Was those not the areas you claimed Lukaku was greater?

If Lukaku was that good, then let Barcelona or Real Madrid come for him and let him play 8 minutes and get a UCL medal.

Oga timbros kindly tell us moratas contributions to the trophies, no need speaking plenty English biko!

Who cares if Barcelona or Madrid ain't running after lukaku? So according to you all strikers must feature for Madrid or barceloba to be called great or good right?

I really do not even get what you are on about here.. ! Didn't Emmanuel and baptista play as strikers for Madrid too? Where they ever out of the ordinary?

I beg you!! Please, tell us moratas contributions
to the so called trophies in their cabinet......

If one must even go by your upandan logic Mikel must be a God where makalele and ballacks of this world are right? Even fernandud aka shapekeeper must be better than big Rinaldo ain't it?

Oga you can gloat over the youth and NT team all you want , it won't stop the fact that morata is one uber useless player when compared to lukaku.

Please,don't insult us by saying because you graduated from the university of Ife with a 3rd class invariably, you are more knowledgeable than a 1st class student from babcook here! Bcuz that is just BS....!
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lordfalcao(m): 2:46pm On Jul 26, 2016
Nihilist:


Actually Lukaku has regularly outscored Costa for most of his career.
it's a lie... Costa have a career goal of 140+ while lukaku have 130+
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 2:46pm On Jul 26, 2016
Nihilist:


Actually Lukaku has regularly outscored Costa for most of his career.

The way people talk about this Costa self they make him up to look like one extraordinary player... A player who in his entire career haven't had much success playing as a striker for more than 2 seasons in total! At what age really? Abeggiiii.. ....


I will rather have SWP playing 9 and trying to score goals than a wrestler on the field.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 2:47pm On Jul 26, 2016
lordfalcao:
it's a lie... Costa have a career goal of 140+ while lukaku have 130+


Which 140? Please show us were you got that from abeg u....
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 2:48pm On Jul 26, 2016
Nihilist:


The easiest way to compare strikers is to check their goal stats.

Morata has 25 career league goals. Lukaku has over 100.

Lukaku is younger too.


Lukaku is older by roughly 5months or so
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lordfalcao(m): 2:49pm On Jul 26, 2016
The fact that lukaku has played over 140+ plus in the EPL with only 60goals COsta playing only 52 games have half of the goals
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 2:50pm On Jul 26, 2016
diggz:


Oga timbros kindly tell us moratas contributions to the trophies, no need speaking plenty English biko!

Who cares if Barcelona or Madrid ain't running after lukaku? So according to you all strikers must feature for Madrid or barceloba to be called great or good right?

I really do not even get what you are on about here.. ! Didn't Emmanuel and baptista play as strikers for Madrid too? Where they ever out of the ordinary?

I beg you!! Please, tell us moratas contributions
to the so called trophies in their cabinet......

If one must even go by your upandan logic Mikel must be a God where makalele and ballacks of this world are right? Even fernandud aka shapekeeper must be better than big Rinaldo ain't it?

Oga you can gloat over the youth and NT team all you want , it won't stop the fact that morata is one uber useless player when compared to lukaku.

Please,don't insult us by saying because you graduated from the university of Ife with a 3rd class invariably, you are more knowledgeable than a 1st class student from babcook here! Bcuz that is just BS....!

You don't see me engage in debates often here because I know where it almost certainly ends.

I have listed points that made me say Morata is better than Lukaku. The best you should have done is list your own points to counter my argument.

I don't see any grammar in any of my write ups.

So I am now gloating over youth and NT when it was you that mentioned them in the first place as areas where Lukaku is 'god' over Morata? Was this not your exact comment below?

diggz:


I am no fan of lukaku but morata greater than him ain't right bro.

How is morata even greater than lukaku? Just how...?

As a matter of fact the only thing greater about morata before and at the moment, is the guys price tag..... Not a single thing! Not youth goals, not professional club goals and definitely not national team goals....

Lukaku is a god compared to morata....

Let's talk about individual honours, how is Lukaku 'god' over Morata in this criteria?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lordfalcao(m): 2:53pm On Jul 26, 2016
diggz:



Which 140? Please show us were you got that from abeg u....
okay.. .
Pic 1: costa total career goals +1 in the National Team
Pic 2: lukaku career goals + 19 in the National team.


Maybe I no sabi maths

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Chestar5(f): 2:57pm On Jul 26, 2016
Observing cool.....
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 2:58pm On Jul 26, 2016
lordfalcao:
costa fights a lot but still score Good goals... that's true but lukaku plays lackadaisical football any day anytime. the truth is still the same lukaku is no match for Costa. like I said earlier put costa in Everton team and lukaku will become 2nd choice.
there is nothing lukaku has done that costa haven't,can't do x10
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 3:00pm On Jul 26, 2016
lordfalcao:
it's a lie... Costa have a career goal of 140+ while lukaku have 130+

If you remove the 15 reserve goals for Costa there, then you realise that Lukaku is on par with Costa for Career goals.

When we focus on League goals only, you will see that Lukaku actually has more league goals than Costa.

When you realise that Diego Costa made his professional debut when Lukaku was only 13 years old (12 actually if I want to be nitpicky), the true picture will become apparent to you, and maybe if you have a small modicum of shame, you will beg for forgiveness.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 3:04pm On Jul 26, 2016
diggz:



Lukaku is older by roughly 5months or so

Lukaku was born in 1993. Morata 1992.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lordfalcao(m): 3:08pm On Jul 26, 2016
Nihilist:


If you remove the 15 reserve goals for Costa there, then you realise that Lukaku is on par with Costa for Career goals.

When we focus on League goals only, you will see that Lukaku actually has more league goals than Costa.

When you realise that Diego Costa made his professional debut when Lukaku was only 13 years old (12 actually if I want to be nitpicky), the true picture will become apparent to you, and maybe if you have a small modicum of shame, you will beg for forgiveness.
see guy man sense here.. .why would I remove costa reserve goals.. Are you telling me that lukaku doesn't have reserve goals too.

I don't care who made appearance first. You cleary said lukaku has outscored Costa which is lie grin grin

The fact that lukaku who have played More EPL and costa who have played 1/4 still have half of the goal lukaku have speaks volume grin

Okay nihilist costa didnt play for the National team Unders, but lukaku did. Should I also remove lukaku goals there too?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 3:08pm On Jul 26, 2016
timbros:


Haba Nihilist, you don pass this level nah...

Lukaku made his senior appearance in 2009 and has played more than 200 matches. His career league goals is not up to 100. It's 93.

Meanwhile, Morata debuted in 2010, playing just 100 matches so far.

Bar Chelsea, Lukaku is the main striker in all his clubs whereas Morata constantly fights for shirt. How do you expect Morata's goal ratio to superior Lukaku's?

You haven't told us about Lukaku/Costa yet...

93 >>> 25.

I should have said Career totals though.

I've already started
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 3:10pm On Jul 26, 2016
timbros:


You don't see me engage in debates often here because I know where it almost certainly ends.

I have listed points that made me say Morata is better than Lukaku. The best you should have done is list your own points to counter my argument.

I don't see any grammar in any of my write ups.

So I am now gloating over youth and NT when it was you that mentioned them in the first place as areas where Lukaku is 'god' over Morata? Was this not your exact comment below?



Let's talk about individual honours, how is Lukaku 'god' over Morata in this criteria?


Before we go ahead to pollute this thread with unnecessary arguments, this discourse started as a result of your claims which is; morata >>>>>> lukaku.

Yes I agree I brought up the youth, NT and professional league goals into the discourse in which 2 outta the three will be the most suitable for judging or deciding who is actually better or greater BTW both of them.

Please, confirm who is actually better based on the number of goals scored by the two players. Thank God their age difference ain't much which makes it useless in this debate.

I do not want theories or excuses. Just check based on the number of goals professionally scored by both players either NT or league and tell us!
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 3:12pm On Jul 26, 2016
Nihilist:


93 >>> 25.

I should have said Career totals though.

I've already started

222>>>100 for appearances. How about that?

Lukaku is always the main striker while Morata always fights for shirt.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 3:14pm On Jul 26, 2016
lordfalcao:
see guy man sense here.. .why would I remove costa reserve goals.. Are you telling me that lukaku doesn't have reserve goals too.

I don't care who made appearance first. You cleary said lukaku has outscored Costa which is lie grin grin

The fact that lukaku who have played More EPL and costa who have played 1/4 still have half of the goal lukaku have speaks volume grin

Obviously when we are discussing who is better, we focus on top leagues. How can you bring goals from Segunda division into the discussion? Why not add his goals from monkey post and coal tar?

Diego Costa started playing football when Lukaku was in Jss3, and the only difference is 15 goals scored in the la liga reserve league, and you're using that as an 'example'. I don't know where they find you people sometimes.

Lukaku is better than Diego Costa. If you had any shame, you would close your laptop and find a dark corner of your room, where you can kneel down, hands up, and face the wall.

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