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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by dolphinheart(m): 4:10pm On Aug 08, 2016
brocab:
Firstly lets clear up a few issues before we start. As we understand the soul and the Spirit are two primary immaterial aspects that scripture describes to humanity. It can be confusing to attempt to discern the precise differences between the two, The word Spirit refers only to the immaterial facet of humanity. Human beings have a spirit, but we are not spirits, However in Scripture only believers are said, to be spirituality alive {1 Corinthians 2:11, Hebrews 4:12, James 2:26} while unbelievers are spirituality dead {Ephesians 2:1-5, Colossians 2:13} In Paul's writing the spiritual was pivotal to the life of the believer {1 Corinthians 2:14, 3:1, Ephesians 1:3,5:19, Colossians 1:9, 3:16} The spirit is the element in humanity which gives us the ability to have a intimate relationship with God, When ever the word "Spirit" is used, it refers to the immaterial part of humanity that "connects" with God. Who Himself is Spirit {John 4:24}
The word "soul" can refer to both, the immaterial and material aspects of humanity, unlike human beings having a Spirit, human beings are souls in its most basic sense, the word "Soul means life" However beyond this essential meaning, the bible speaks of many souls in many contexts.
One of these is humanity's eagerness to sin {Luke 12:26} Humanity is naturally evil, and our souls are tainted as a result.
The life principle is removed at the time of physical death {Genesis 35:18, Jeremiah 15:2} The "Soul as with the Spirit" is the centre of many spiritual and emotional experiences {Job 30:25, Psalms 43:5, Jeremiah 13:17} Whenever the word "Soul" is used, it can refer to the hole person, whether "in life or in the after life".
The "Soul and the Spirit are connected" but separable {Hebrews 4:12} The Soul is the essence of humanity being, it is who we are. The "Spirit is an aspect of humanity that connects with God.
And for the body the flesh-that of course is common sense from dust we came and to dust we go.

To be frank, I don't think you yourself understand what you copied and pasted here, you just saw that it talked about soul and spirit, and in a desperate bid to change the issue you Decided to copy and paste it word for word.

To show you you do not know what you copied and pasted I'm going to point to a section of your post:
" The "Soul and the Spirit are connected" but separable {Hebrews 4:12} The Soul is the essence of humanity being, it is who we are. The "Spirit is an aspect of humanity that connects with God.
And for the body the flesh-that of course is common sense from dust we came and to dust we go.
"

brocab, plus tell , when the spirit and soul are separated, plus tell us what will happen to the man!

plus adress the issue at hand:
like I said earlier and repeated several times, the issue at hand is identifying what goes to hell, is it the spirit or body or soul. Secondly there is a need to know where the rest go if the 3 mentioned dnt go to hell.

under these topic, you have made contradictory statements about what goes to hell, while vehementry refusing to state where the others mentioned go.

You claim to be brothers, you claim to be christians who have tried to prove what the bible had said, yet you statements , proofs and claim are contradictory. you said only spirits go to hell, your brother says souls and body go to hell. I've asked you several times to explain this contradiction, but you refuse!

You could not show even once instance where I mocked the word of God or where I made a statement denying anything said above!, brocab when will this lying stop!

You still could not tell where the soul and body goes after man dies! can you see yourself
You say only spirit go to hell, your brother say soul and body can be destroyed in hell
as if this is not contradictory enough , you had earlier said
" If Paul didn't have the Spirit of God, the divine, then how did he have it after he had died?
His flesh would end up in hell, where your flesh is heading.
Having God's divine nature Paul was transformed into heaven
"

to clear any misunderstandings about your own words and to give you a chance of explaining them I asked you the following questions
" For the benefit of doubt, brocab, PLS tell me
1. what did you mean with the statement : "His flesh would end up in hell, where your flesh is heading."
2. solite3 says he believes that soul and body go to hell, do you agree with him?
this questions above have been avoided by you.
you still have a chance to explain what you meant.
I've not even shown you what you said about soul and hell.

brocab, are there people who don't have the spirit of God? If those people die, where will they(piece of flesh) end up?

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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by dolphinheart(m): 4:30pm On Aug 08, 2016
solite3:
dolphinheart pls show me where I said human earthly body go to hell?
let's not think that the other person is stupid, hence we employ deceit, cunning ways and improper approach to things?

I never said you said the bolded above, and even if you had said so, I've not seen it yet.
But I did say you said something, I said you said and believed that body and soul goes to hell. Now do you still want me to show you where you made this statements, do you want me to show you where you agreed that soul and body go to hell?
brocab, do you stand by your brother when he agreed that soul and body go to hell?, do you agree with him?

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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by dolphinheart(m): 4:37pm On Aug 08, 2016
brocab:
He can't show you-only unless he twist and rewrites your page. Like he does it to mine.
I cannot show what I've not seen.
pls tell he did make such statement, then I'll try to look for it, but if he did not make such statement, why are you happy and delighted that I can't show you a sentence he did not make?

Secondly, I've asked you to show me one instance I twisted your sentences, you refuse to point to one. now in addition, pls point to solite3 statement, then show how I twisted it!
If you can't , pls then stop making false accusations!

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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by dolphinheart(m): 4:41pm On Aug 08, 2016
solite3:
@ brocab its pathetic hearing people without God's Spirit trying to sturdy bible from their head
all this propping up of ego Will not help. There at least three post in which you are mentioned which was posted twice, making 6 posts, but you refuse to respond to any of them, if there is time, I will repost them again!

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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 4:46pm On Aug 08, 2016
[quote author=Jozzy4 post=48285891]
go back and read my post

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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 12:45am On Aug 09, 2016
Facts people should know about the jw sect

[size=14pt]Is the Jehovah's Witness religion Christian?[/size]

by Matt Slick

The answer to the question is, "No. It is not Christian." Like all non-Christian cults, the Jehovah's Witness' organization distorts the essential doctrines of Christianity. It denies the deity of Christ, His physical resurrection, and salvation by grace. These make it non-Christian. In addition, to support its erring doctrines, the Watchtower organization (which is the author and teacher of all official Jehovah's Witness' theology) has altered the Bible to make it agree with its changing and non-Christian teachings.



Typical with cults that use the Bible to support its position is a host of interpretive errors:

Taking verses out of their immediate context.
Refusing to read verses in the entire biblical context.
Inserting their theological presuppositions into the text.
Altering the Biblical text to suit their needs.
Latching onto one verse to interpret a host of others.
Changing the meanings of words.
Proclaiming some passages to be figurative when they contradict their doctrines.
Adding to the Word of God.

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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Jozzy4: 9:45am On Aug 09, 2016
[quoteauthor=solite3post=48308348][/quote]

Looking for an escape route grin

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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by jstemmanex(m): 1:01pm On Aug 09, 2016
Can u pls refer to item no. 13 of the first post on this tread

johnw74:

Facts people should know about the jw sect

[size=14pt]Is the Jehovah's Witness religion Christian?[/size]

by Matt Slick

The answer to the question is, "No. It is not Christian." Like all non-Christian cults, the Jehovah's Witness' organization distorts the essential doctrines of Christianity. It denies the deity of Christ, His physical resurrection, and salvation by grace. These make it non-Christian. In addition, to support its erring doctrines, the Watchtower organization (which is the author and teacher of all official Jehovah's Witness' theology) has altered the Bible to make it agree with its changing and non-Christian teachings.



Typical with cults that use the Bible to support its position is a host of interpretive errors:

Taking verses out of their immediate context.
Refusing to read verses in the entire biblical context.
Inserting their theological presuppositions into the text.
Altering the Biblical text to suit their needs.
Latching onto one verse to interpret a host of others.
Changing the meanings of words.
Proclaiming some passages to be figurative when they contradict their doctrines.
Adding to the Word of God.

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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 7:05pm On Aug 09, 2016
Jozzy4:


Looking for an escape route grin
escape route When you can't even comprehend my post? Hahaha y are you troubled
Isaiah 33:14 The sinners in Zion are afraid; fearfulness hath surprised the hypocrites. Who among us shall dwell with the devouring fire? who among us shall dwell with everlasting burnings?

This explains y u have been denying all bible verses concerning hell

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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by CAPTIVATOR: 7:32pm On Aug 09, 2016
solite3:
escape route When you can't even comprehend my post?


Hahaha y are you troubled
Isaiah 33:14 The sinners in Zion are afraid; fearfulness hath surprised the hypocrites. Who among us shall dwell with the devouring fire? who among us shall dwell with everlasting burnings?

This explains y u have been denying all bible verses concerning hell

This is where you guys got it wrong, you don't know the meaning of Loving God with ones whole heart, since Jozzy doesn't agree with you , u automatically assume he is a sinner . lol , that's funny! Ever wondered why Jehovah's Witnesses don't tolerate sinners in their midst despite not teaching this lies you are struggling to defend ? that's a question u should ask yourself and throw away that chicken mentality of not believing in fairytales means they wanna sin.


Meanwhile , is jozzy a sinner in Zion ? Is that verae talking about a mythical spirit being burned ? You just quote without proper thinking this is why you start struggling when they generate questions from what you quote and u can't answer . How I wish u answer the question regarding Matt 10:28 , which body is Jesus reffering to ? But I know you can't be sincere here , cos more problem will arise for your teaching

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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 9:17pm On Aug 09, 2016
[quote author=CAPTIVATOR post=48340719]

This is where you guys got it wrong, you don't know the meaning of Loving God with ones whole heart, since Jozzy doesn't agree with you , u automatically assume he is a sinner . lol , that's funny!
yes sir I know did meaning of God's love

John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
God sent his only son to pay for my sins
What love can be greater than this?
John 15:13 Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.

Galatians 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

1 John 4:10 Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins.

Ever wondered why Jehovah's Witnesses don't tolerate sinners [/b]in their midst despite not teaching this lies you are struggling to defend ? that's a question u should ask yourself and throw away that chicken mentality of not believing in fairytales means they wanna sin.
@ bold you don't tolerate sinners but look at who Jesus came to save

Matthew 9:10 And it came to pass, as Jesus sat at meat in the house, behold, many publicans and sinners came and sat down with him and his disciples.

Matthew 9:13 But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

Meanwhile , is jozzy a sinner in Zion ? Is that verae talking about a mythical spirit being burned ? You just quote without proper thinking [b] this is why you start struggling when they generate questions from what you quote and u can't answer
@ bold only sinners are afraid of hell. So what God said to the sinners at Jerusalem does not apply to other sinners?

.
How I wish u answer the question regarding Matt 10:28 , which body is Jesus reffering to ? But I know you can't be sincere here , cos more problem will arise for your teaching
Matthew 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. @ bold the man being thrown into hell has both body and soul
Matthew 5:29 And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.

You see that it is the whole body cast into hell

This happens after physical death
Luke 12:5 But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: [b][b]Fear him, which after he hath killed [/b]hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him.
@ bold being cast into hell occurs after death
Matt 10:28 reveals that God has power to cast a man with his body into hell which man cannot do
It means that souls being cast into hell will also possess bodies

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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 12:56am On Aug 10, 2016
KNOW This About The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society
How can we KNOW for certain if the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of Jehovah's Witnesses is a dangerous false prophet or not? The Bible makes this answer easy and clear:

"And IF thou say in thine heart, HOW SHALL WE KNOW the word which the LORD hath not spoken? When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shall not be afraid of him" (Deut. 18: 21, 22).

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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by CAPTIVATOR: 8:13am On Aug 10, 2016
[quote author=solite3 post=48343171][/quote]


You keep mentioning " whole body " and said those in hell will have bodies . can u just clarify which kind of body ?

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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 2:01am On Aug 13, 2016
More facts about those who call themselves jw's

Some Bible verses concerning the false jw sect, as well as others who have a different jesus:

Mat_7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

Mat_24:11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

1Jn_4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.



2Pe_2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.


Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.


Mat_23:15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.
^^^
today's false jw pharisees are twice the children of hell than the jw pharisees of years ago
because today's false jw's know of all the false jw prophecies from their org. etc.
Years ago many left the sect because of the lies, today's false jw's glory in them.
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 2:12am On Aug 13, 2016
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More facts about the sect that call themselves jw's

[size=14pt]Questions that Jehovah's Witnesses do not like to be asked.[/size]

If the organization did not actually prophesy the end in 1925 and 1975, then how come so many Witnesses left the faith immediately afterwards? ("They lost roughly three-quarters of the movement between 1925 and 1928, then suffered huge losses after 1975, when the end didn't come as they had implied over and over again," said Jim Penton, an ex-Witness who writes entries on Jehovah's Witnesses for the Encyclopedia Americana.)
If the Watchtower organization rejects others calling them "inspired" yet the Watchtower organization does call themselves "God's Spirit-directed Prophet" what is the difference? Is there such a thing as an "uninspired prophet"? See Organization claims inspiration
Has the Society ever taught anything scripturally incorrect? See Prophecy Blunders of the Organization
Might the Society be teaching anything scripturally incorrect now?
Since the Organization has received "new light" regarding the 1914 generation, and completely changed their view on this, does this mean that all the former Jehovah's witnesses who were disfellowshipped years ago for the same view the organization is now teaching will automatically be accepted into fellowship again? Were these Ex-Jw's in fact disfellowshipped for truth and knew things that the governing body did not? See Jw's were disfellowshipped for rejecting generation doctrine
Can Jehovah's Witnesses hold and discuss openly with other Jehovah's Witnesses opinions that differ from orthodox Watch Tower doctrine?
Can individuals read & understand the Bible alone, or do they need an organization and it's publications to do so? Click here find the answer!
How do you prove from the Bible that 1935 was the year for the selection to heaven stopped due to being filled? What is the difference between a Catholic appealing to "what the organization tells him" about December 25 being the date of Jesus' birthday and a Jw' appealing to "what the organization tells him" about the date 1935? Is it not hypocritical when you chide the "poor deluded Catholic" that his faith cannot find a Bible passage to support it, when the same goes for you and 1935?

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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 3:03am On Aug 13, 2016
God bless brocab, wherever he is

and solite, see you at another thread

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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 8:38pm On Aug 14, 2016
What tread is that and I will follow...
johnw74:
God bless brocab, wherever he is

and solite, see you at another thread









Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 9:20pm On Aug 14, 2016
I stand by my brothers ans sisters everyday-just as I stand by Jesus everyday. Solite3 is a believer-just as I am, and John74 stands strong too.
I find no fault with my brothers, nor my sisters in Christ.

I have seen where I had written it about Paul, but because you have refuse to read the rest of the scripts on each page, then of course you would cut my pages up, only to suit your metal state of mind.
Plus it was you dolphinheart who actually can't believe the story about the rich and the poor man, both died and was buried, without having the Spirit of God, your metal state of mind can only put your mind into a box type thinking pattern, only because you seem to believe {Luke 16} doesn't really exist, it is either a misprint, and of course this may leave you without knowing any truth concerning any passages that belongs to our Spiritual growth.
The bible is used as a tool to help us with directions, {Let your fingers do the walking} the bible gives us the insight how this book is written, and what we see, is not always how it sounds. The bible is written so we need the Spirit of God to glide us through. The bible is also describes flesh came from dust, and dust, we will return. Which proves our Spirit's will live without flesh and blood.
{Luke 16:22-26} not only this scripture but others like it, your unbelief naturally cowardly controls your metal state, that supports your ramping and raving about any existence to any bible that belongs to God.
Jesus describes Hell as the place of torment burning with fire for eternity, like He describes heaven the place in paradise.
Meaning we have a choice, and with that choice, I choose to be with the Lord, where I know I will spend eternity with Him.

dolphinheart:

let's not think that the other person is stupid, hence we employ deceit, cunning ways and improper approach to things?

I never said you said the bolded above, and even if you had said so, I've not seen it yet.
But I did say you said something, I said you said and believed that body and soul goes to hell. Now do you still want me to show you where you made this statements, do you want me to show you where you agreed that soul and body go to hell?
brocab, do you stand by your brother when he agreed that soul and body go to hell?, do you agree with him?

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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 10:01pm On Aug 14, 2016
iamrealdeji:
I'm a muslim but I love Jehovah Witnesses so much,they come to my house every sunday and we talk about life,afterlife etc,my mum is an Alhaja and she does too,she entertains Jehovah witness folks and even offers them food cos you just gotta like this people cos of the way they interact with everybody, they're very intelligent,hardworking and educated folks and they don't discriminate,they don't hate,they're just trying to change the world positively. To me,they're the best christians in the world. Also,i have learned a lot from those that come to my house

Have they discussed with you how to accept Jesus as your Lord and Saviour?
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 11:12pm On Aug 14, 2016
I don't believe your story, matter of fact this story was written by a JW 'not any Muslim.
Firstly JW's don't accept food from strangers, and first of all JW's don't enter into other Churches, nor do they worship with other religions.
So you lie against the Muslims.
Discrimination, Is positive information, the JW's always produces discrimination against Christians who speak up for Christ.
iamrealdeji:
I'm a muslim but I love Jehovah Witnesses so much,they come to my house every sunday and we talk about life,afterlife etc,my mum is an Alhaja and she does too,she entertains Jehovah witness folks and even offers them food cos you just gotta like this people cos of the way they interact with everybody, they're very intelligent,hardworking and educated folks and they don't discriminate,they don't hate,they're just trying to change the world positively. To me,they're the best christians in the world. Also,i have learned a lot from those that come to my house
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 1:58am On Aug 15, 2016
[size=14pt]More facts you shoulkd know about the false jw sect[/size]



The number one “snare and capture” technique used by the
Watchtower leaders is to convince others they can NOT understand
the Bible apart from their literature. Those who fall for it are,
therefore, trapped and have become puppets and slaves for the
Watchtower! They will then believe and act in accord to what the
leaders at Brooklyn, New York declare. From spreading another gospel
to another Jesus to another Spirit, the poor, deceived and lost
Jehovah’s Witnesses who come to our doors are thinking they have
to take in (accurate) knowledge from the Watchtower to get eternal
life, based on the Watchtower’s misuse of John 17:3 while they
refuse to go to the Lord Jesus for (eternal) life (Jn 5:39,40; 4:10).

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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 7:45am On Aug 15, 2016
johnw74:
God bless brocab, wherever he is

and solite, see you at another thread









God bless u too.
They have deserted the thread because their lies are not selling. A jw cannot stand any christian who hold to the word of God only unsuspecting babes.

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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by dolphinheart(m): 10:29pm On Aug 15, 2016
brocab:
I stand by my brothers ans sisters everyday-just as I stand by Jesus everyday. Solite3 is a believer-just as I am, and John74 stands strong too.
then retract your contradictory statements if you stand by their words.
you say spirit goes to hell, solite3 believes body and and soul goes to hell, who are we to believe.
you make such contradictory statements, yet you refuse to tell us where the other two go if only spirit goes to hell.

you argue that Jesus is the father while johnw74 believes that jesus is not same person as the father, brotherhood of confusion, believing contradictory things.

I find no fault with my brothers, nor my sisters in Christ.
I have seen where I had written it about Paul, but because you have refuse to read the rest of the scripts on each page, then of course you would cut my pages up, only to suit your metal state of mind.
even when I posted the full text of your post, you still refuse to answer the question.

Plus it was you dolphinheart who actually can't believe the story about the rich and the poor man, both died and was buried, without having the Spirit of God, your metal state of mind can only put your mind into a box type thinking pattern, only because you seem to believe {Luke 16} doesn't really exist, it is either a misprint, and of course this may leave you without knowing any truth concerning any passages that belongs to our Spiritual growth.
pls show where I talked about the rich man and lazarus, you are just desperately trying to change the topic, you don't want to tell us where body and soul go , if only spirit go to hell!
The bible is used as a tool to help us with directions, {Let your fingers do the walking} the bible gives us the insight how this book is written, and what we see, is not always how it sounds. The bible is written so we need the Spirit of God to glide us through. The bible is also describes flesh came from dust, and dust, we will return. Which proves our Spirit's will live without flesh and blood.
the bible has told you where the spirit goes to, you deliberately twisted it and said spirit roams.


{Luke 16:22-26} not only this scripture but others like it, your unbelief naturally cowardly controls your metal state, that supports your ramping and raving about any existence to any bible that belongs to God.
Jesus describes Hell as the place of torment burning with fire for eternity, like He describes heaven the place in paradise.
Meaning we have a choice, and with that choice, I choose to be with the Lord, where I know I will spend eternity with Him.

tell what goes to this hell, tell where spirit, body , soul goes when man dies.

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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 12:56am On Aug 16, 2016
[size=14pt]Does the Watchtower organization control the Jehovah's Witnesses' thinking?[/size]

Following are quotes from the literature of the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society--better known as the Jehovah's Witnesses organization. After reading the quotes below, it is obvious that the Watchtower discourages individual thinking among the Jehovah's Witnesses and requires them to submit to the teaching of the Watchtower organization.

Romans 14:5 says, "One man regards one day above another, another regards every day alike. Let each man be fully convinced in his own mind." The Bible wants us to think and to be convinced in our own minds about issues that are debatable (Rom. 14:1-12). However, the Watchtower does not want its people to be convinced in their own minds. It wants them to submit to the Watchtower.

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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 4:23am On Aug 16, 2016
dolphinheart:

then retract your contradictory statements if you stand by their words.
you say spirit goes to hell, solite3 believes body and and soul goes to hell, who are we to believe.
you make such contradictory statements, yet you refuse to tell us where the other two go if only spirit goes to hell.

you argue that Jesus is the father while johnw74 believes that jesus is not same person as the father, brotherhood of confusion, believing contradictory things.


even when I posted the full text of your post, you still refuse to answer the question.


pls show where I talked about the rich man and lazarus, you are just desperately trying to change the topic, you don't want to tell us where body and soul go , if only spirit go to hell!

the bible has told you where the spirit goes to, you deliberately twisted it and said spirit roams.



tell what goes to this hell, tell where spirit, body , soul goes when man dies.
where did I tell you physical body goes to hell? Na wao. Your twisted understanding cannot make you to see things clearly anymore.

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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 10:40am On Aug 16, 2016
Does this mean I won't hear your side on this subject, are you still refusing to share a little JW knowledge about where we go after we die?
Every time death is mentioned, it upsets you deeply-Have you lost somebody close to you recently. This is the differences we have between us both, if I had a chance to save my family from death, I will be first on the seine for my services, I will ask to pray with them, Many people like you don't like to hear about Jesus, but that doesn't stop anyone to pray for them. But with your organisation you can't, you stand there and watch your love ones die, without your services, without a word.
And I figure this is why you refuse to answer the question, you haven't the slightest idea where our souls end up after we die, It doesn't matter what the word tells us, you will always refuse the scriptures, matter of fact, you and your love ones have that much fear about death, you can't even talk about such subject.
Your only answer could be, is they will end up in their graves until the Father returns. Which is true in one sense, but in the other hand you have given your love ones false hope {Revelation 6:9-10}
dolphinheart:

then retract your contradictory statements if you stand by their words.
you say spirit goes to hell, solite3 believes body and and soul goes to hell, who are we to believe.
you make such contradictory statements, yet you refuse to tell us where the other two go if only spirit goes to hell.

you argue that Jesus is the father while johnw74 believes that jesus is not same person as the father, brotherhood of confusion, believing contradictory things.


even when I posted the full text of your post, you still refuse to answer the question.


pls show where I talked about the rich man and lazarus, you are just desperately trying to change the topic, you don't want to tell us where body and soul go , if only spirit go to hell!

the bible has told you where the spirit goes to, you deliberately twisted it and said spirit roams.



tell what goes to this hell, tell where spirit, body , soul goes when man dies.

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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 10:49am On Aug 16, 2016
No-where brother, dolphinheart lies in bed and outer bed.
The truth is, he can't understand the truth, and when we tell him the truth, the truth passes him like the wind.
solite3:
where did I tell you physical body goes to hell? Na wao. Your twisted understanding cannot make you to see things clearly anymore.

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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 10:50am On Aug 16, 2016
"Yes" lets look at the evidence?
johnw74:


[size=14pt]Does the Watchtower organization control the Jehovah's Witnesses' thinking?[/size]

Following are quotes from the literature of the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society--better known as the Jehovah's Witnesses organization. After reading the quotes below, it is obvious that the Watchtower discourages individual thinking among the Jehovah's Witnesses and requires them to submit to the teaching of the Watchtower organization.

Romans 14:5 says, "One man regards one day above another, another regards every day alike. Let each man be fully convinced in his own mind." The Bible wants us to think and to be convinced in our own minds about issues that are debatable (Rom. 14:1-12). However, the Watchtower does not want its people to be convinced in their own minds. It wants them to submit to the Watchtower.

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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 10:54am On Aug 16, 2016
Bless are you brother-bless is he 'who comes in the name of the Lord.
solite3:
God bless u too.
They have deserted the thread because their lies are not selling. A jw cannot stand any christian who hold to the word of God only unsuspecting babes.

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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by dolphinheart(m): 7:36pm On Aug 17, 2016
solite3:
where did I tell you physical body goes to hell? Na wao. Your twisted understanding cannot make you to see things clearly anymore.
get serious, stop trying to be cunning, did I say physical body?

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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 7:59pm On Aug 17, 2016
dolphinheart:

get serious, stop trying to be cunning, did I say physical body?
now go back and read my posts.
I told you that I believe those been thrown into hell will have a body (that may correspond to their earthly body.)
So next time try to comprehend something before commenting.

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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 6:12am On Aug 18, 2016
Page 115 time 10-29 Aug 15 is clearly enough evidence for us to see the truth------You were on a great mocking spree against solite3 and myself calling us lairs, and now you seem too have changed your mind? Are you on some kind of medication, you were sure of yourself when you assumed it to be the physical body, in Hell, and not the Spirit. As you have written it clearly.
Are we on the same page. Dolphnheart your not thinking about denying your faults, are you? This just isn't you?
You will be a disgrace to your collies at work.
But you could be totally honest to yourself and It would make life a lot easier if you would correct your many mistakes when answering any questions about the Word of God.
dolphinheart:

get serious, stop trying to be cunning, did I say physical body?

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