una don turn this thread to german fight. nawa o. issorait

Nigerians are everywhere

what remain now is to hijack an Island where deported Nigerians can claim nationality, such as banana Island, mango island, snake Island etc

guiddoti:
Nigerians are everywhere

what remain now is to hijack an Island where deported Nigerians can claim nationality, such as banana Island, mango island, snake Island etc

lmao

Nigerians indeed are in love with adventure. I greatly cherish that. One should not get stuck in one place in a lifetime. Please gurus, the way I see people talk about getting employment with degrees in engineering and medical courses scares me. I m now wondering whether a masters in social science, international relations precisely could land man any job because currently am weighing going to either Germany, Canada or Norway for masters. I did history and international relations in my undergraduate. Please folks, are there scholarships for a course like this in d aforementioned countries or is there any more lucrative related one u think I should delve into?

BiafraBushBoy:


I just went there.... Combined pages almost 1000

Where will I start from?

I have deep knowledge about Germany, Just that I am confused about their Language school

Danke!!

One step at a time...you should read the current thread from the beginning...you are planning to pursue a bachelor's?

chaiks:
Nigerians indeed are in love with adventure. I greatly cherish that. One should not get stuck in one place in a lifetime. Please gurus, the way I see people talk about getting employment with degrees in engineering and medical courses scares me. I m now wondering whether a masters in social science, international relations precisely could land man any job because currently am weighing going to either Germany, Canada or Norway for masters. I did history and international relations in my undergraduate. Please folks, are there scholarships for a course like this in d aforementioned countries or is there any more lucrative related one u think I should delve into?

Social sciences grads are not usually in demand due to the high number of natives studying or graduating from those courses. Natives have superior communication, culturural and local skills, but you can still get a job if your course of study is policy related, although might not pay so well compared to science/engineering.

Any info about Qatar

Here's something worth reading. I hear people say the UK gives you only 4 months to look for a job when in fact it is 12 months + additional 4 months after your studies.

I came to study the MSc in Finance course at the London School of Economics. Found an internship at an investment bank and then started as a Grad the same year. Its been four years since I moved to London and three years since I started work. I'll try to answer this as best as I can. Yes, opportunities are not what they used to be since the PSW was ended. But I suggest people get the chip off of their shoulders. Stop thinking that any country out there owes you a job. I certainly did not come here with that sort of attitude. The LSE did not force me to take up this Masters, I knew the risks all too well. I came anyway. What I did do was give it my best shot. I did not go out partying every night. I did not fly back to my parents at the drop of a hat. I worked on my applications, worked on my interviews, I got lots of rejections, lots of interviews and with every rejection I picked myself back up again and tried harder.

In my four years here I couldn't ask for more. As a woman the freedom this city gives you is amazing. In all those years I've never been groped or inappropriately touched even once. I have never faced a hint of racism and neither have any of my friends from India. They all love it here and although most went back, they went back with fond memories and made friends the world over. My family lives in New York and I'd pick London over New York any day of the week. My sister whose a New Yorker even admits the same when it comes to things like safety and public transport.

All that said, I do think the UK missions to India to try and recruit Indian students are not being completely honest. They're painting a rosy picture which isn't even close to what the ground reality is. Getting a Tier 2 is harder than they're making it out to be. The £25k salary threshold is just the minimum and depends on the sector you're applying in. Only a select number of firms have a sponsorship license. There is a growing tide of anti immigration tendencies in this country owing to how wrong the Labour government got it a decade ago and people aren't happy because they immigrants the Labour government brought over have no respect for this country or its values. That's the reason the Conservatives got voted into power. And like all countries, they're responsible to their voters first.

I also think that most non EU students get swept up in the glitz and glamour of London. When I was at uni, the same people who went back and cried about racism and not being given jobs were the ones I saw partying every night in a new nightclub and spending over a £100 without thinking about the fact that they have a massive loan to pay off. I knew a girl from India whose parents took out a huge loan to send her to the LSE. Even though I offered to help her find a job, she refused and was out partying with her bf and friends every night, she decided to stay in the most expensive area in London where rents are as high as £2k for a room and when she went back she blamed racism even though I never saw her lift a finger to find a job. She only started applying during her last month in the UK. She wasn't the only one who was like that, most were like her.

People who wanted to find jobs, found them. They planned, they worked hard, they attended interviews throughout the year. They basically gave it their best and today they're in one of the best cities in the world. I'm set to move to Germany eventually because my boyfriend's German and we've decided to marry and settle there. But I dread everyday when the time comes to leave this amazing wonderful country and its people. No country on earth is more tolerant towards different people than this one. I can guarantee you that as someone whose travelled all three continents extensively.

https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-job-opportunities-for-Indian-students-after-doing-a-postgraduate-degree-from-the-UK

dustydee:
Here's something worth reading. I hear people say the UK gives you only 4 months to look for a job when in fact it is 12 months + additional 4 months after your studies.


https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-job-opportunities-for-Indian-students-after-doing-a-postgraduate-degree-from-the-UK

Saying that no place on earth is more tolerant than the UK- very unexpected, considering the anti-immigration chants that followed brexit.

dustydee:
Here's something worth reading. I hear people say the UK gives you only 4 months to look for a job when in fact it is 12 months + additional 4 months after your studies.


https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-job-opportunities-for-Indian-students-after-doing-a-postgraduate-degree-from-the-UK

plz, that's a subjective view of the writer and her opinion can't be generalised as regards the immigration policies of the UK, though she is in the rubric of the luckiest few fortunate to get a good job; regardless it's not a guarantee that everybody else would settle down, talk less of getting a job but one can only be hopeful that luck and fate work in one's favour.

silentdude:


plz, that's a subjective view of the writer and her opinion can't be generalised as regards the immigration policies of the UK, though she is in the rubric of the luckiest few fortunate to get a good job; regardless it's not a guarantee that everybody else would settle down, talk less of getting a job but one can only be hopeful that luck and fate work in one's favour.

She shared her experience. Some may agree some may not.

silentdude:


plz, that's a subjective view of the writer and her opinion can't be generalised as regards the immigration policies of the UK, though she is in the rubric of the luckiest few fortunate to get a good job; regardless it's not a guarantee that everybody else would settle down, talk less of getting a job but one can only be hopeful that luck and fate work in one's favour.

True, countries have different immigration policies. Some nice and some not so nice. There is no guarantee of success in any of the countries.The onus is on a potential immigrant to research and take his or her chance at moving to a different either to work or study.

lobito007:

Saying that no place on earth is more tolerant than the UK- very unexpected, considering the anti-immigration chants that followed brexit.

True. The brexit just made some ignorant white people bold.

In my opinion, aslong as there are races mixing together, there would always be racists around. In all my time in Manchester, UK, i have only been told to go back to where i came from once. This is one occurence in 5years. Not bad at all.

In Canada, 5 years plus and not one occurence yet- another good record, but i have friends that have been told to go back to where they came from. Even a patient won't let a doctor friend attend to him cos he is black. i presently live and work in a red neck town, and i was even advised by whites not to move there cos of racist people, but 1year here already and nothing of such nature. That doesnt mean there are not racist people here, most likely they are not bold enough to confront me. some of my work colleagues even have the US confederate flag on their cars, that gives me an insight into their minds.lol

when people ask me if the Uk is racist, i usually say it depends. Same as canada. People's experiences differ.

i read this vice article some weeks ago about a black canadian girl's experience in london, ontario. ontario is the most culturally diversified province in canada.

shinarambo1:

True. The brexit just made some ignorant white people bold.

In my opinion, aslong as there are races mixing together, there would always be racists around. In all my time in Manchester, UK, i have only been told to go back to where i came from once. This is one occurence in 5years. Not bad at all.

In Canada, 5 years plus and not one occurence yet- another good record, but i have friends that have been told to go back to where they came from. Even a patient won't let a doctor friend attend to him cos he is black. i presently live and work in a red neck town, and i was even advised by whites not to move there cos of racist people, but 1year here already and nothing of such nature. That doesnt mean there are not racist people here, most likely they are not bold enough to confront me. some of my work colleagues even have the US confederate flag on their cars, that gives me an insight into their minds.lol

when people ask me if the Uk is racist, i usually say it depends. Same as canada. People's experiences differ.

i read this vice article some weeks ago about a black canadian girl's experience in london, ontario. ontario is the most culturally diversified province in canada.

Actually that is not entirely true, Asians and blacks voted for brexit in thousands. Cities like Luton and Bradford all voted for exit and check the demographic of those cities to see the make up.

justwise:


Actually that is not entirely true, Asians and blacks voted for brexit in thousands. Cities like Luton and Bradford all voted for exit and check the demographic of those cities to see the make up.

Any reason why racist incidents suddenly increased just right after brexit? I thought some people just got too excited and they couldnt hide their racist tendencies.

shinarambo1:

Any reason why racist incidents suddenly increased just right after brexit? I thought some people just got too excited and they couldnt hide their racist tendencies.

I don't think it increased that much but brexit gave it an attention. Every incident between white and non-white is now linked to brexit.

justwise:


I don't think it increased that much but brexit gave it an attention. Every incident between white and non-white is now linked to brexit.

Okay....I wish i was in the UK just right after brexit.

shinarambo1:

Okay....I wish i was in the UK just right after brexit.

I voted In and was gutted when Leave won.

We will see the consequences in 2 or 3 yrs time. Nothing has changed yet

Obiwannn:


I'm not married. Money wouldn't be a problem. I'm in my mid 20's should be 28 when I'm ready for the move. My grades also should be very good. The only problem is work experience. I have only six months experience done in Nigeria (intenship) and 5 months experience working here in automobile industry. My field is Process Engineering.. So you see the problem is experience. Any way around it?

Did you study Engineering in your bsc? If yes, go check the australian skilled migration thread. You don't need work experience for Engineering to get permanent residence in australia.

justwise:


I voted In and was gutted when Leave won.

We will see the consequences in 2 or 3 yrs time. Nothing has changed yet

i have a friend that voted out, and her reason was that there was too much pressure on healthcare facility and education for kids. This same lady got eggs thrown at her by some racist yobs driving by some years ago.

Alot of people think only racist or xenophobic people voted out, but my friend above is non of the two.

mctowel01:

Did you study Engineering in your bsc? If yes, go check the australian skilled migration thread. You don't need work experience for Engineering to get permanent residence in australia.

Yes sir I did. Awesome...Australia is even the country I wish to settle down in
Can I send you a PM?

lobito007:

My goodness!!! You have come to troll this thread too with your negativity and message of pessimism after you were banished from the German visa thread for the same reason. I BIND YOU!!! Why do you only always have the bad situations to cite. Why is it that you have never had a story to tell about someone who made it. At least, he made mention of 3 of his friends who got jobs there. Several news similar to this, I also regularly hear of. Is it that good things do not happen around you there. This is beyond you claiming that you like to speak reality rather than give fantasies. You need to check deep within; do some soul searching.

But he was saying the truth naaaa.
Why dont Nigerians like hearing the truth?
The only job you can just get no stress is in IT. Every other job is very difficult to get, even Germans go two, three years without jobs. Now no one prays for this and again it depends on how lucky you are, but knowing the truth so one can prepare adequately for challenges ahead doesn't hurt.

awelekiti:
You may be right in your experience. But I have seen 3 graduates of Engineering who got jobs without much efforts... Elect , Biomed and Computer Eng.respectively. It all depends on what you hold. Within 3 months, yes..you can learn the basic things, communicate and interact...with time, you will become perfect. There are some professions that do not require much talks or deep communications...you do not need to spend one year studying Deutsche in this case. Once you are able to communicate, you are good to go and while on the job with time, you will become a guru in their language. However, I never said you would be prolific in Deutsche in 3 months. With time as you communicate on the job, you will blend well...all you need is the basics in Deutsche. Even English language is not learned perfectly in one year but if you dedicate time to it, read novels, communicate frequently, you can do better, even in a shorter time. Please you don't have to shout at my comment. That you spent a year looking for job does not mean somebody else won't get hired gainfully, in a matter of months after graduation.

I dunno about EE, but I know the computer eng/IT jobs far outweigh the applicants, and as for Biomed, I would love to get in contact with that guy please, let me get informed as regards tips. I know personally two persons who studied Chemical Engr who found jobs in over 2 years, i also know someone who got a job immediately after studies but that was far back in 2003. That said anyways truly the language requirements depend on what field on is in exactly and if one is going to interact with Operators who obviously only speak German in the Plant. In the end, we pra for God's Grace sha... Cos living in this place as a foreigner who is neither a student nor employed is crazily crazily expensive.

BiafraBushBoy:


I took up the course once and dropped it like hot cake....

Even Chinese is easier that german..

Das dis die... warris all that?

Buahahahahahahaahahahahahahaahahahahahah

Language toh badt

Although knowing the language sha would be advantageous in the long run.

Weedcrusher:


It sounds funny when the point you raised contradict your explanation. You first said it can be done in UK, then you went ahead to explain that the stringent immigration makes it impossible for international students to become citizen. Lol

This is not about bragging, but the most immigration friendly country to international student as at today is Canada. Apart from the cold (that one can get used to with time) and international tuition (that's even lower than that of UK and US), Canada is such a lovely country for international students

Nah...that would be Germany bro.
You dont pay tuition, you work and earn cool bucks(probably more than those in Canada €>$, ability to work full time...)

The only 'little' challenge is the language.
Then the big challenge is job after studies.

But if you actually just want to "study" and return, Germnay toh badt.

shinarambo1:

i have a friend that voted out, and her reason was that there was too much pressure on healthcare facility and education for kids. This same lady got eggs thrown at her by some racist yobs driving by some years ago.

Alot of people think only racist or xenophobic people voted out, but my friend above is non of the two.

My workmate who is an African voted out, she own issue is with Polish workers. Many voted out thinking things will change immediately but the UK hasn't left the EU yet and will not leave at least till 2017 or 2018.

I can't stop laughing at some people..

Obiwannn:
I dunno about EE, but I know the computer eng/IT jobs far outweigh the applicants, and as for Biomed, I would love to get in contact with that guy please, let me get informed as regards tips. I know personally two persons who studied Chemical Engr who found jobs in over 2 years, i also know someone who got a job immediately after studies but that was far back in 2003. That said anyways truly the language requirements depend on what field on is in exactly and if one is going to interact with Operators who obviously only speak German in the Plant. In the end, we pra for God's Grace sha... Cos living in this place as a foreigner who is neither a student nor employed is crazily crazily expensive.

Bros, I'm a believer who knows what God's favour means and how far it can take one. After we've put-in our best, this is what we should be asking for...you'd see somebody who got a job almost immediately after graduating and somebody else with same qualification and degree, if not a much better one, still roaming the streets looking for job. In all the places I'd worked before I founded my company, it's been God's favour all the way and these companies' names still ring bells till today. I never struggled to find or switch jobs...everything was just falling in place at ease. God's favour always helps make the journey faster. Cheers

awelekiti:
Bros, I'm a believer who knows what God's favour means and how far it can take one. After we've put-in our best, this is what we should be asking for...you'd see somebody who got a job almost immediately after graduating and somebody else with same qualification and degree, if not a much better one, still roaming the streets looking for job. In all the places I'd worked before I founded my company, it's been God's favour all the way and these companies' names still ring bells till today. I never struggled to find or switch jobs...everything was just falling in place at ease. God's favour always helps make the journey faster. Cheers

That's true though. We often understimate the role 'Grace' plays. Thanks for this exposeé

Obiwannn:


Yes sir I did. Awesome...Australia is even the country I wish to settle down in
Can I send you a PM?

Yea you can

Obiwannn:


Nah...that would be Germany bro.
You dont pay tuition, you work and earn cool bucks(probably more than those in Canada €>$, ability to work full time...)

The only 'little' challenge is the language.
Then the big challenge is job after studies.

But if you actually just want to "study" and return, Germnay toh badt.

The scope of discussion here is where to study, work full time without language barrier, stay and become citizen eventually after graduating. Mind you, I have friends studying in Germany that will do anything to enter Canada

mctowel01:

Yea you can

Just sent you a pm boss.

Schwartz:

I shouted when I got to your post. Wow! You are definitely not well informed. I am in Germany and I can say without a doubt that jobs are not looking for people the way you stated it. A vacancy comes up and there are people who apply for it even with their qualifications they hope and pray to get the job. No job placement is guaranteed. I have personally met German citizens who are graduates travelling from state to state to find jobs. The good for them is while searching government pays them u employment benefits. We are not even of talking of foreigners who have searched and searched and are forced to take up another Masters or try another country. Its may take time to finally get a job and you need to keep applying and being positive. That's off course when you have a good grade, experience, and of course good command of the language.
Then you talk about learning Deutsch in 3 months! guy what are talking about? In 3 months you only learn very basic level 1 Deutsch you need more time, years to speak deutch confidently with less mistakes.

Hello sir. Some good points you've raised. Since you said you're presently in Germany I have some questions I would like to ask. Hope we can talk on whatsapp or via mail?