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Re: Why God Allows Bad Things To Happen To Good People by DeSepiero(m): 3:15pm On Sep 11, 2016
hopsydboi:

I give up!
You won't make much sense

Your opinion!
Care to give a better explanation?
Re: Why God Allows Bad Things To Happen To Good People by Nobody: 3:16pm On Sep 11, 2016
sweetcocoa:
No be small something my brother, see the way he sounds like he had a meeting with God this morning, where God told him everything.grin grin
Hahaha You're really funny but I backed my writeup with the scripture and can render over 50 bible passages to affirm my assertions
Re: Why God Allows Bad Things To Happen To Good People by frankeinstein(m): 3:29pm On Sep 11, 2016
Jesuobu:





Another reason why God allow bad things to happen to you even when you’re His child, is not to make you cry but It’s His deliberate act to shape your heart to love Him more. So God allowed those things which you see unfair because He knows a tree that is blown by tough wind does not grow strong root. Everything you face is just to make you strong and eradicate the fear of evil and death.



The taste of broccoli, does not in any way affect that of chocolate
Re: Why God Allows Bad Things To Happen To Good People by oglalasioux(m): 3:30pm On Sep 11, 2016
Jesuobu:
You’re shaped by your experiences in life both good and bad, though most of which where beyond your control but God allowed them for His purpose of molding you to what He wants you to be. God intentionally allows you to go through painful experiences so that you know how to help those in pain because he comforts us in all our troubles and wants us to learn from His fair treatment and transfer it to others when the need arises.

Take for example, with the case of Job, God allowed Satan to do everything to Job except to kill him and what was Jobs reaction? “Though he may slay me, yet I hope in Him (Job 13: 15). Job did not understand why God had allowed the things He did but knew God was good and therefore continued to trust in Him. Ultimately that should be our reaction as well and not crying and shouting “God why me?” and speaking ill of Him in some cases.

Rather my dear brethren, be thankful for everything that happens to you because great souls are grown through struggles and storms and seasons of suffering and remember that there can never be rain without storm and neither will there be harvest without rain. In the end of the struggles you will come out victorious and you will realize the true intention of God was far different from what you have always thought.

Another reason why God allow bad things to happen to you even when you’re His child, is not to make you cry but It’s His deliberate act to shape your heart to love Him more. So God allowed those things which you see unfair because He knows a tree that is blown by tough wind does not grow strong root. Everything you face is just to make you strong and eradicate the fear of evil and death.

So my brothers and sisters whatever you face, be patient with God because He knows what He is doing. Thanks and God bless.

Written by Jesuobu(i.e. Jesus thank you)


People die during these 'tests'. What about them? For God's experiment with Job or his gamble with satan, Job's children died. I understand it was just a test but what about the people that died during this test? Guinea pigs?

A sickle cell child is born into a family and both the parents and the child's suffering is viewed as a test from God. A test when a child is going through excruciating pains and will eventually die? (thanks to science for finding remedies to sickle cell anemia).

The idea of good people suffering and bad people enjoying as a will of God to test his people is lazy, stupid and absurd. Religion will always look for excuse to shield it's non existent God.

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Re: Why God Allows Bad Things To Happen To Good People by Laido: 3:32pm On Sep 11, 2016
Jesuobu:
God did not create evil, but He does allow evil. If God had not allowed for the possibility of evil, both mankind and angels would be serving God out of obligation and not by choice. He did not want “robots” that simply did what He wanted them to do because of their “programming.” God allowed for the possibility of evil so that we could genuinely have a free will and choose whether or not we wanted to serve Him.
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Either bro Created Evil or not. That's not the issue. I don't really blv God is by anyway affecting man Negatively! Everything happenin to man was created by man. Men are the thiefs, Men are the police! Men are the Doctors, men are the patient! Men created poisons, Men created poison, men created its anti-dote! Men created war and men fight men durin war! Men are the criminals, men are the Judge! The kings are men, The slaves are men too! Men created Guns, Men created atomic bombs! God doesn't do evil! #When the sun rises, it rise for everyone. Religion had been Manipulated by Evil Men long time ago!

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Re: Why God Allows Bad Things To Happen To Good People by achorladey: 3:38pm On Sep 11, 2016
Bad Things Happen to Good People—Why?
Since Jehovah God * is the Creator of all things and is almighty, many people may be inclined to hold him responsible for everything that takes place in the world, including all that is bad. However, consider what the Bible says about the true God:
“Jehovah is righteous in all his ways.”— Psalm 145:17 .
“All his [God’s] ways are justice. A God of
faithfulness who is never unjust; righteous and
upright is he.”— Deuteronomy 32:4 .
“Jehovah is very tender in affection and
merciful.” — James 5:11 .
God does not cause bad things to happen. Does he, though, incite others to commit vile deeds? Not at all. “When under trial,” state the Scriptures, “let no one say: ‘I am being tried by God.’” Why? Because “with evil things God cannot be tried, nor does he himself try anyone.” ( James 1:13 ) God does not try, or test, anyone by inciting him to behave badly. God neither causes bad things to happen nor incites others to do what is bad. Who or what, then, is to blame when bad things happen?
BEING IN THE WRONG PLACE AT THE WRONG TIME
Identifying one reason why humans suffer, the Bible states: “Time and unexpected events overtake them all.” (Ecclesiastes 9:11 ) When unanticipated events or accidents happen, whether someone is affected or not depends to a large extent on where he is at the time they occur. Nearly 2,000 years ago, Jesus Christ spoke of a calamity involving 18 people who were killed when a tower fell on them. (Luke 13:1-5 ) They did not become victims because of the way they had lived their lives; they were simply under the tower when it happened to fall. More recently, a devastating earthquake struck Haiti in January 2010; the Haitian government says that over 300,000 lives were lost. All those lives were claimed without regard for who the individuals were. Illnesses too can strike anyone at any time.
Why does God not keep good people out of harm’s way?
Some might ask: ‘Could not God prevent such deadly calamities from happening? Could he not shield the good people from the calamity?’ For God to intervene in such ways, it would mean that he knows about bad things before they happen. While God certainly has the ability to foreknow the future, the question we need to consider is this: Does God choose to exercise to a limitless extent his power to foreknow such things?— Isaiah 42:9 .
The Scriptures say: “God is in the heavens; he does whatever he pleases.” ( Psalm 115:3 ) Jehovah does what he deems necessary to do—not everything he is capable of doing. That applies also to what he decides to foresee. For example, after wickedness became prevalent in the ancient cities of Sodom and Gomorrah, God told the patriarch Abraham: “I will go down to see whether they are acting according to the outcry that has reached me. And if not, I can get to know it.” ( Genesis 18:20, 21 ) For a time, Jehovah chose not to know the extent of the wickedness in those cities. Similarly, then, Jehovah can choose not to foreknow everything. (Genesis 22:12 ) In no way is this an indication of imperfection or weakness on his part. Since “perfect is his activity,” God balances his ability to foreknow the future with his purpose; he never forces humans to follow a certain course. * ( Deuteronomy 32:4 ) What, then, may we conclude? Simply this: God’s exercise of foreknowledge is selective and discretionary.
Re: Why God Allows Bad Things To Happen To Good People by Kelvinfejiro20: 3:39pm On Sep 11, 2016
Jesuobu:
God did not create evil, but He does allow evil. If God had not allowed for the possibility of evil, both mankind and angels would be serving God out of obligation and not by choice. He did not want “robots” that simply did what He wanted them to do because of their “programming.” God allowed for the possibility of evil so that we could genuinely have a free will and choose whether or not we wanted to serve Him.
are you saying without evil God wouldn't feel important, if so I concur
Re: Why God Allows Bad Things To Happen To Good People by achorladey: 3:39pm On Sep 11, 2016
ARE HUMANS RESPONSIBLE?
Part of the blame for wickedness lies with humans. Notice how the Bible describes a process that can lead to harmful acts. “Each one is tried by being drawn out and enticed by his own desire. Then the desire, when it has become fertile, gives birth to sin; in turn sin, when it has been carried out, brings forth death.” ( James 1:14, 15 ) When individuals act on improper desires or give in to wrong cravings, they are bound to suffer bad consequences. ( Romans 7:21-23 ) As history shows, humans have committed horrendous acts and caused immense suffering. Moreover, wicked men can influence others to become corrupt, thus perpetuating badness.— Proverbs 1:10-16 .
Humans have committed horrendous acts and caused immense suffering
Should God intervene and prevent people from doing bad things? Consider how man is made. The Scriptures say that God created man in God’s own image, that is, in God’s likeness. Thus, humans have the ability to reflect God’s qualities. ( Genesis 1:26 ) Humans have been given the gift of free will and can choose to love God and stick to him by doing what is right in his eyes. ( Deuteronomy 30:19, 20 ) If God coerced people into following a certain course, would he not be nullifying the gift of free will? Why, humans would be reduced to nothing more than machines, doing exactly what they were programmed to do! The same would be true if fate, or Kismet, dictated what we do and everything that happens to us. How glad we can be that God dignifies us by allowing us to choose our own course! This does not mean, though, that the harm caused by human error and bad choices will forever plague mankind.
Re: Why God Allows Bad Things To Happen To Good People by achorladey: 3:41pm On Sep 11, 2016
THE PRIMARY CAUSE!
Did you know that the main cause of suffering is “the ruler of the world”—Satan the Devil?— John 14:30
The primary cause of wickedness, though, is not man. Satan the Devil, originally a faithful angel of God, “did not stand fast in the truth” and brought sin into the world. ( John 8:44 ) He instigated a rebellion in the garden of Eden. (Genesis 3:1-5 ) Jesus Christ called him “the wicked one” and “the ruler of the world.” (Matthew 6:13; John 14:30 ) Mankind in general follow Satan by heeding his urgings to ignore the good ways of Jehovah. ( 1 John 2:15, 16 ) “The whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one,” says 1 John 5:19 . There are other spirit creatures who have turned wicked and have joined Satan. The Bible indicates that Satan and his demons are “misleading the entire inhabited earth,” causing “woe for the earth.” (Revelation 12:9, 12 ) Thus, the principal blame for wickedness has to be placed on Satan the Devil.
Clearly, God is not responsible for bad things that happen to people; nor does he make them suffer. On the contrary, he has promised to eliminate badness.
Re: Why God Allows Bad Things To Happen To Good People by Henrichemeka(m): 3:48pm On Sep 11, 2016
Dreamwaker:
Nice post
Re: Why God Allows Bad Things To Happen To Good People by Henrichemeka(m): 3:48pm On Sep 11, 2016
Fantastic

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Re: Why God Allows Bad Things To Happen To Good People by LOVEGINO(m): 3:56pm On Sep 11, 2016
Kylekent59:
U have to pass through test before u can succeed in life. Remember joseph,job,abram,daniel ,even JESUS also ,they all passed through test.
NOTE: SUFFERING ONLY MAKES U STRONGER
among all names u just mentioned, Its Jesus case that baffles me the most. HE DIED FOR US but still, we no send am. God go help us!
Re: Why God Allows Bad Things To Happen To Good People by achorladey: 4:01pm On Sep 11, 2016
Those that always fall back on Isaiah 45:7 as means of saying God does bad things, please provide answer to this question. When you ask a child to frog jump as a result of his wrong doings, is it a good or bad/evil thing to the child? Or simply are you doing good or bad thing?
Re: Why God Allows Bad Things To Happen To Good People by stepo707: 4:39pm On Sep 11, 2016
Since the opposite of peace is sorrow or trouble, the translation from the New American Catholic Bible makes better sense: “I form the light, and create the darkness, I make well-being and create woe.” The idea is that the Lord is the author of peace, but that He also sends judgments upon the wicked who are ripe in iniquity. Therefore, even when the wicked are punished by the wicked, it is under the direction of the Lord.
Re: Why God Allows Bad Things To Happen To Good People by onwuakpachris(m): 4:51pm On Sep 11, 2016
"GOD"...that is if he/she even exists is a very big DISSAPOINTMENT and DISGRACE..honestly.. or tell me how can an all good..all loving..all powerful..all omni whateva whateva God js sit in heaven and watch as evil dominates a good world that he created..js sit in heaven and watch as the "devil"..a less powerful evil being rule nd controls a good world that he created..of cus I no that most of u religious apologists gonna always argue dt "eh there must be evil before good..DAT there can't be good without evil"..yes fine..the world can never be perfect..I agree..but must there be so much evil before good..how can evil dominate in a good world created by a good God

...how can evil people run a world created by a good God nd the good suffer so much...how can just 62 "not so good" people av half of the world's wealth while billions of other innocent people starve to death everyday ..and our good God is just in heaven watching..of cus christian apologists will always argue that God haz been so good in their lives..so good in your lives!!!..are u kidding me??..now tell me..u are alive..yes..but other people that don't believe in God r alive as well??..so tell me is dat a miracle..u got admission..got a job..survived an accidnt..ad a baby..e.t.c. e.t.c..okay yes fine..but all these good favours comes to other people as well whether they r believers or not...infact let the truth be told... the so called evil or godless people tend to succeed more in life than so called righteous people..no doubt!!!..those 62 people DAT av half of the world's wealth..none of them is religious..or even close to that word..believers will be like "eh God answers my prayers"oh yes what of other people like me nd millions of others that don't even pray or believe in anything but have more good fortunes and favours than you that pray every minute...believers will pray and if it works..then God is so good..but if it dosent..which is mostly d case..then God wants to teach me a lesson..he works in mysterious ways... what nonsense!!!!! and of cus religious leaders will always tell u not to worry yourself that your rewards awaits u in heaven..and u foolishly believe nd keep on suffering and smiling while they buy private jets..send their kids abroad... and enjoy life....let's just wake up people...I woke up long time ago..and am so glad many people doing the same

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Re: Why God Allows Bad Things To Happen To Good People by apatheticme(f): 4:54pm On Sep 11, 2016
Jesuobu:
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Re: Why God Allows Bad Things To Happen To Good People by Aaronsrod: 5:06pm On Sep 11, 2016
Abdstrakt:


What evil heart might this little baby have to deserve this punishment? Explain.

The child is already evil through his parents who are not Christians and must be punished accordingly. Also from Adam and Eve we are born in sin. The Bible tells us in Exodus 20:5 I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me.

If they turn from sin and seek His mercy Gods curse will be removed in a few generations.
Re: Why God Allows Bad Things To Happen To Good People by bullstriker: 5:44pm On Sep 11, 2016
The main purpose of God for his creation is to make heaven regardless of whether u are rich or poor. Suffering draws people close to God, so that God can fulfil his purpose in their lives. Evil people torment u with sufferings but God uses it to strengthen your desire for him, prepare u for the future.

It could be that souls that lost their lives at a tender age might not make heaven if they live longer, or they were born into this world to prepare the future of their loved ones with their pain and death. The word of God says
" ...My thoughts for u are of good and not of evil..."
hahn:


You are really deluded and obviously not thinking with your brain undecided

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Re: Why God Allows Bad Things To Happen To Good People by obinna58(m): 6:02pm On Sep 11, 2016
Religion will always be a scam the me. we are God wink
Re: Why God Allows Bad Things To Happen To Good People by Nobody: 6:12pm On Sep 11, 2016
The good and bad are all sold to sin by Adam's delibrate disobedience to God's command which fringes upon God's universal sovereignty.
The almighty God never shields a good person from calamitous occurrence Eccesiates chapter 9vss2,3
God allowing evil to befall good person is to settle once and for all times an attack on his right to rule mankind, and when he does so distress will Never arise again. Nahum 1vs9
For more information visit https://jw.org click Bible teaching > Bible Questions Answered >suffering.
Download the Book What Does The Bible Really Teach Us OR What Does The Bible Really Teach. Read Chapter 11
Re: Why God Allows Bad Things To Happen To Good People by sekundosekundo: 6:36pm On Sep 11, 2016
hopefulLandlord:


Isaiah 45:7

I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these
things.

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Re: Why God Allows Bad Things To Happen To Good People by sekundosekundo: 6:39pm On Sep 11, 2016
Uyi168:
Ur God created evil..
I WAS AN ATHEIST FOR OVER 30yrs.
Re: Why God Allows Bad Things To Happen To Good People by sekundosekundo: 6:44pm On Sep 11, 2016
hahn:


You are really deluded and obviously not thinking with your brain undecided

Your son wants to be a medical doctor and you refuse to send him to School even though you hv the resources, will you now blame God.
Re: Why God Allows Bad Things To Happen To Good People by Afrokan(m): 6:48pm On Sep 11, 2016
Clap for yourself grin
Re: Why God Allows Bad Things To Happen To Good People by Nobody: 6:50pm On Sep 11, 2016
sekundosekundo:


I WAS AN ATHEIST FOR OVER 30yrs.
thank God you're saved now. I love the photo you posted. Do all you can to save people too. There is joy in heaven over one sinner who repents.


Like Jesus says in Luke 22:32 But I have pleaded in prayer for you, Simon, that your faith should not fail. So when you have repented and turned to me again, strengthen your brothers."
Re: Why God Allows Bad Things To Happen To Good People by Afrokan(m): 6:50pm On Sep 11, 2016
bullstriker:
The main purpose of God for his creation is to make heaven regardless of whether u are rich or poor. Suffering draws people close to God, so that God can fulfil his purpose in their lives. Evil people torment u with sufferings but God uses it to strengthen your desire for him, prepare u for the future.

It could be that souls that lost their lives at a tender age might not make heaven if they live longer, or they were born into this world to prepare the future of their loved ones with their pain and death. The word of God says
" ...My thoughts for u are of good and not of evil..."
How are suppose to develop in Africa with reasoning like this?

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Re: Why God Allows Bad Things To Happen To Good People by Afrokan(m): 6:53pm On Sep 11, 2016
LOVEGINO:
among all names u just mentioned, Its Jesus case that baffles me the most. HE DIED FOR US but still, we no send am. God go help us!
Technically he died out of ignorance and later realized it was a scam and started calling on his imaginary friend on why he has forsaken him.
Re: Why God Allows Bad Things To Happen To Good People by Afrokan(m): 6:55pm On Sep 11, 2016
Laido:
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Either bro Created Evil or not. That's not the issue. I don't really blv God is by anyway affecting man Negatively! Everything happenin to man was created by man. Men are the thiefs, Men are the police! Men are the Doctors, men are the patient! Men created poisons, Men created poison, men created its anti-dote! Men created war and men fight men durin war! Men are the criminals, men are the Judge! The kings are men, The slaves are men too! Men created Guns, Men created atomic bombs! God doesn't do evil! #When the sun rises, it rise for everyone. Religion had been Manipulated by Evil Men long time ago!
Malaria was created by man, i thought your God created mosquitoes ? You are confusing me
Re: Why God Allows Bad Things To Happen To Good People by Afrokan(m): 6:57pm On Sep 11, 2016
achorladey:
Those that always fall back on Isaiah 45:7 as means of saying God does bad things, please provide answer to this question. When you ask a child to frog jump as a result of his wrong doings, is it a good or bad/evil thing to the child? Or simply are you doing good or bad thing?
Technically mass murder of innocent Egyptians first born is a bad thing or indescriminate killing of men, woman and child but i guess he is god and he is immune from doing bad things because that would defeat the purpose of being god
Re: Why God Allows Bad Things To Happen To Good People by Afrokan(m): 6:59pm On Sep 11, 2016
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Its mostly in Africa and southamerica than majoroty of its population believe bad things are caused by the devil and good things my god, no wonder some of the most impoverished and illiterate people are found in this two continents.
Re: Why God Allows Bad Things To Happen To Good People by LOVEGINO(m): 7:14pm On Sep 11, 2016
Afrokan:

Technically he died out of ignorance and later realized it was a scam and started calling on his imaginary friend on why he has forsaken him.
bros u badt ooo grin

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Re: Why God Allows Bad Things To Happen To Good People by StOla: 7:22pm On Sep 11, 2016
Aaronsrod:


The child is already evil through his parents who are not Christians and must be punished accordingly. Also from Adam and Eve we are born in sin. The Bible tells us in Exodus 20:5 I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me.

If they turn from sin and seek His mercy Gods curse will be removed in a few generations.


Wow! wow! wow!

The little baby is already evil for not being born to Christians and must be punished accordingly?
While a Christian baby suffering same does so as punishment for Adam's sin?

May science be praised for giving us the true light from the darkness and misery of religion.

Your opinion has just confirmed that God and Satan are 2 sides of the same coin.

Both are cunning and crafty and give happiness and misery. Both are jealous, egotist and narcissistic.

Both are tyrants the world must do without.

As flies are to wanton boys, so are we to the gods. They use us for their sport.

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