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ATTENTION: What Is Happening? Our Pastors Are Turning To Motivational Speakers. by DanielGb(m): 8:22am On Sep 18, 2016
Have this occur to you that recently, most of our highly praise celebrity pastors are gradually becoming more of a MOTIVATIONAL SPEAKERS. Like there's nothing fresh out of God's mouth.

Motivation is good but it should come from the Holy Spirit. Through our faith in Christ Jesus(The word of God). Does motivation do the work for us self. No. It will charge us UP for some minutes and then after some minutes later, the energy is gone.

What happen to signs and wonder that has been given to those called by God for the unbelievers. Abi, Christ was motivating people during his own time ni? **Tell me, I want to know** A Word from God is different from Motivational Speaking. A word from God should be a SOLUTION. The next line of action.

Or,
is it only me that discover this Pastors(majorly new generation) have turn to motivational speakers. If this continue, then there is no need for people to come to Church again because there is nothing FRESH. Atheists will have more reason to say. its a SCAM! If I need motivation, it can come from anywhere: Books, People(not necessarily pastors), from events and situations/ environment we find ourselves.

People have various kind of problems and what they need is not motivational speech. They need Solution from God. Only a direct word from God will provide that. This is why people seek prophets/ seers or God face through fasting and prayer.

What is wrong?
Are these pastors scams or they are misplacing there priorities?

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Re: ATTENTION: What Is Happening? Our Pastors Are Turning To Motivational Speakers. by otemdomino: 8:51am On Sep 18, 2016
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Re: ATTENTION: What Is Happening? Our Pastors Are Turning To Motivational Speakers. by otemdomino: 8:51am On Sep 18, 2016
They are turning to their true self, realising how fake jesus is, they began to motivate rather than spiritualise. I like that though.

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Re: ATTENTION: What Is Happening? Our Pastors Are Turning To Motivational Speakers. by AnodaIT(m): 8:56am On Sep 18, 2016
That's is the style now.

In fact I go to church to get some principles of living and business more than salvation these days.

The worse culprits are those that punctuate every sentence with general declarations followed by the thunderous amen, if it works then he is a man of God, if not, the prophecy was not for you.

If I were not raise a thorough Bible studying Christian, I would have thought that Christianity is a big joke

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Re: ATTENTION: What Is Happening? Our Pastors Are Turning To Motivational Speakers. by thesicilian: 9:06am On Sep 18, 2016
They are adapting to the needs of the times, trying to capture the people with sweet words they'd want to hear, instead of what they should hear.
Apostle Paul made reference to this when he was addressing the Christians at Corinth:

" And I, brethren, when I came to you, came not with excellency of speech or of wisdom, declaring unto you the testimony of God. For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified. And I was with you in weakness, and in fear, and in much trembling. And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man's wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power: That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God."
1 Corinthians 2:1 - 5

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Re: ATTENTION: What Is Happening? Our Pastors Are Turning To Motivational Speakers. by menxer: 10:16am On Sep 18, 2016
Motivational talk is easy.

Hearing the Spirit is the hardest part, and who wants to fast for 40 days (condition oneself) to be hearing the Spirit?
Re: ATTENTION: What Is Happening? Our Pastors Are Turning To Motivational Speakers. by asamaigho(m): 11:02am On Sep 18, 2016
Its appalling to see,but its also a fulfillment of the scriptures.
That why u dont depent on any man for salvation,christianity is a personal relationship with God via his word.

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Re: ATTENTION: What Is Happening? Our Pastors Are Turning To Motivational Speakers. by DanielGb(m): 11:44am On Sep 18, 2016
otemdomino:
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Otemdomino say something. don't just book space.
Re: ATTENTION: What Is Happening? Our Pastors Are Turning To Motivational Speakers. by DanielGb(m): 11:46am On Sep 18, 2016
otemdomino:
They are turning to their true self, realising how fake jesus is, they began to motivate rather than spiritualise. I like that though.

How fake Jesus is? Tell me more.
Re: ATTENTION: What Is Happening? Our Pastors Are Turning To Motivational Speakers. by DanielGb(m): 11:50am On Sep 18, 2016
AnodaIT:
That's is the style now.

In fact I go to church to get some principles of living and business more than salvation these days.

The worse culprits are those that punctuate every sentence with general declarations followed by the thunderous amen, if it works then he is a man of God, if not, the prophecy was not for you.

If I were not raise a thorough Bible studying Christian, I would have thought that Christianity is a big joke

This serious. Salvation has taken the back stage. Motivation ti take over. SMH.
Concerning the prophecies well you can't tell if He his saying the truth or not

Sir, How do you view the real Chriatianity? How is should be.
Re: ATTENTION: What Is Happening? Our Pastors Are Turning To Motivational Speakers. by ikorodureporta: 11:55am On Sep 18, 2016
Sometime ago, i attended a church, & observd tht only d 'deceptive' bible verse was read,....all the teachings were not even related to it, & nothing was said about d bible till d end of service. These ar signs of end-time/ new world order m.o.g....
Re: ATTENTION: What Is Happening? Our Pastors Are Turning To Motivational Speakers. by DanielGb(m): 11:55am On Sep 18, 2016
thesicilian:
They are adapting to the needs of the times, trying to capture the people with sweet words they'd want to hear, instead of what they should hear.
Apostle Paul made reference to this when he was addressing the Christians at Corinth:

" And I, brethren, when I came to you, came not with excellency of speech or of wisdom, declaring unto you the testimony of God. For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified. And I was with you in weakness, and in fear, and in much trembling. And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man's wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power: That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God."
1 Corinthians 2:1 - 5

GBAMMM!
you nailed it.
just what I find missing
SPIRIT AND POWER

Christians faith should depend on the Power of God. Nothing else.

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Re: ATTENTION: What Is Happening? Our Pastors Are Turning To Motivational Speakers. by AnodaIT(m): 3:17pm On Sep 18, 2016
DanielGb:


This serious. Salvation has taken the back stage. Motivation ti take over. SMH.
Concerning the prophecies well you can't tell if He his saying the truth or not

Sir, How do you view the real Christianity ? How should it be.
I believe the bold was your question.

My religion is love.
Someone came to me and asked me how is my relationship with God, I answered "fine". He went on to whether I belong to any department or up to date on my tithe or attending services. This led me to share some enlightening scriptures with him.

Personally, I have seen so many with wickedness in their hearts doing all those things and I came to the conclusion that if you live according to Romans 13:8-10, then you have lived a life acceptable to God and only in that is your relationship with God fulfilling .
That passage is the summary of the Christianity Christ desired for the church. Mark 12:30, Matt 22:37, Luke 10:27

Now the problem is that people equate "love" to just meekness, No! If someone does something that is leading to harm, the best show of love might just be to punish the person not for just to make the person feel pain but to understand that the consequences of doing wrong and your aim should be correcting him.

Show me a person that does not plan evil to his neighbor or to take advantage of him to his selfish interest, then such a person is my brother irrespective of whatever denomination.
Re: ATTENTION: What Is Happening? Our Pastors Are Turning To Motivational Speakers. by Nobody: 5:49pm On Sep 18, 2016
That's why I prefer old generation churches. They preach salvation, holiness and righteousness.

Joel Osteen, David Ibiyome, Pastor Chris, T.D Jakes, Creflo Dollar, Joseph Prince etc are all motivational speakers.
Re: ATTENTION: What Is Happening? Our Pastors Are Turning To Motivational Speakers. by Nobody: 10:56pm On Sep 18, 2016
Millerz:
That's why I prefer old generation churches. They preach salvation, holiness and righteousness.

Joel Osteen, David Ibiyome, Pastor Chris, T.D Jakes, Creflo Dollar, Joseph Prince etc are all motivational speakers.
your only topic created .. are you a Christian now?
Re: ATTENTION: What Is Happening? Our Pastors Are Turning To Motivational Speakers. by Nobody: 3:19am On Sep 19, 2016
I'm in a dilemma. I don't pray anymore plus I rarely go to church now. Cuz I feel GOD don't hear me.
WindUpMerchant:
your only topic created .. are you a Christian now?
Re: ATTENTION: What Is Happening? Our Pastors Are Turning To Motivational Speakers. by Nobody: 7:58am On Sep 19, 2016
Millerz:
I'm in a dilemma. I don't pray anymore plus I rarely go to church now. Cuz I feel GOD don't hear me.
hmm. I'll come back here later.so we discuss

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Re: ATTENTION: What Is Happening? Our Pastors Are Turning To Motivational Speakers. by Nobody: 9:51am On Sep 19, 2016
Aii
WindUpMerchant:
hmm. I'll come back here later.so we discuss
Re: ATTENTION: What Is Happening? Our Pastors Are Turning To Motivational Speakers. by DanielGb(m): 4:01pm On Sep 19, 2016
AnodaIT:
I believe the bold was your question.

My religion is love.
Someone came to me and asked me how is my relationship with God, I answered "fine". He went on to whether I belong to any department or up to date on my tithe or attending services. This led me to share some enlightening scriptures with him.

Personally, I have seen so many with wickedness in their hearts doing all those things and I came to the conclusion that if you live according to Romans 13:8-10, then you have lived a life acceptable to God and only in that is your relationship with God fulfilling .
That passage is the summary of the Christianity Christ desired for the church. Mark 12:30, Matt 22:37, Luke 10:27

Now the problem is that people equate "love" to just meekness, No! If someone does something that is leading to harm, the best show of love might just be to punish the person not for just to make the person feel pain but to understand that the consequences of doing wrong and your aim should be correcting him.

Show me a person that does not plan evil to his neighbor or to take advantage of him to his selfish interest, then such a person is my brother irrespective of whatever denomination.

This kind of person will be hard to find o. In this wicked world. Even me self dey SMH.
Re: ATTENTION: What Is Happening? Our Pastors Are Turning To Motivational Speakers. by DanielGb(m): 4:12pm On Sep 19, 2016
menxer:
Motivational talk is easy.

Hearing the Spirit is the hardest part, and who wants to fast for 40 days (condition oneself) to be hearing the Spirit?


Why should they be call Men of God then?
Re: ATTENTION: What Is Happening? Our Pastors Are Turning To Motivational Speakers. by DanielGb(m): 4:15pm On Sep 19, 2016
ikorodureporta:
Sometime ago, i attended a church, & observd tht only d 'deceptive' bible verse was read,....all the teachings were not even related to it, & nothing was said about d bible till d end of service. These ar signs of end-time/ new world order m.o.g....

Those ones are lost or what? Signs of the end time indeed. What is the full meaning of m.o.g you mentioned?
Re: ATTENTION: What Is Happening? Our Pastors Are Turning To Motivational Speakers. by DanielGb(m): 4:20pm On Sep 19, 2016
Millerz:
That's why I prefer old generation churches. They preach salvation, holiness and righteousness.

Joel Osteen, David Ibiyome, Pastor Chris, T.D Jakes, Creflo Dollar, Joseph Prince etc are all motivational speakers.

Hmmm. a.k.a Prosperity Pastor abi? lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed

Well, i don't argue about which Church is the best or who is truly a man of God. One thing certain is, WE ALL SERVE A LIVING GOD. He whom the Scientists called the UNIVERSE/ INFINITE INTELLIGENCE. Haha! cheesy grin
Re: ATTENTION: What Is Happening? Our Pastors Are Turning To Motivational Speakers. by DanielGb(m): 4:22pm On Sep 19, 2016
Millerz:
I'm in a dilemma. I don't pray anymore plus I rarely go to church now. Cuz I feel GOD don't hear me.

Henhe. This Serious. And you think so?
Re: ATTENTION: What Is Happening? Our Pastors Are Turning To Motivational Speakers. by Nobody: 4:32pm On Sep 19, 2016
Exactly.... True. But they just won't admit it is GOD. they're in denial.
DanielGb:


Hmmm. a.k.a Prosperity Pastor abi? lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed

Well, i don't argue about which Church is the best or who is truly a man of God. One thing certain is, WE ALL SERVE A LIVING GOD. He whom the Scientists called the UNIVERSE/ INFINITE INTELLIGENCE. Haha! cheesy grin
Re: ATTENTION: What Is Happening? Our Pastors Are Turning To Motivational Speakers. by DanielGb(m): 5:04pm On Sep 19, 2016
Millerz:
Exactly.... True. But they just won't admit it is GOD. they're in denial.
Enh o.

Are you still having this doubt that God is not hearing/ answering your prayers?
Re: ATTENTION: What Is Happening? Our Pastors Are Turning To Motivational Speakers. by menxer: 6:24pm On Sep 19, 2016
DanielGb:


Why should they be call Men of God then?

You dey ask me?
No be people wey dey call them men of God you for ask?

Any man on the Spiritual path is a man of God, even those off the spiritual path are still men of God, just that they are in a "far country" and God awaits our return.

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Re: ATTENTION: What Is Happening? Our Pastors Are Turning To Motivational Speakers. by Nobody: 6:30pm On Sep 19, 2016
Yes.. Actually I'm quite sure he doesn't hear me at all
DanielGb:

Enh o.

Are you still having this doubt that God is not hearing/ answering your prayers?
Re: ATTENTION: What Is Happening? Our Pastors Are Turning To Motivational Speakers. by Suspectzero(m): 8:25pm On Sep 19, 2016
Because the new generation is too smart to fall for bullshit miracles. social media and technology would totally catch them out. Fake religions always roll with the times. Except babaric islam that's stuck in the 3rd century or whatever bumfawk century it came from.
Re: ATTENTION: What Is Happening? Our Pastors Are Turning To Motivational Speakers. by DanielGb(m): 6:02pm On Sep 21, 2016
Suspectzero:
Because the new generation is too smart to fall for bullshit miracles. social media and technology would totally catch them out. Fake religions always roll with the times. Except babaric islam that's stuck in the 3rd century or whatever bumfawk century it came from.

I don't get you.
Do you mean to say Christianity is a SCAM! and also, Are you soliciting for ISLAM?
Two different questions. I want your own side of the story.
Re: ATTENTION: What Is Happening? Our Pastors Are Turning To Motivational Speakers. by DanielGb(m): 6:05pm On Sep 21, 2016
Millerz:
Yes.. Actually I'm quite sure he doesn't hear me at all

I went through your page and notice that this your doubt have been active since 2015. However, alot of people were trying to motivate you but here you are again. Some even gave you little solutions.

But for me,
I want you to do something unique? It simple.

Will you?
Re: ATTENTION: What Is Happening? Our Pastors Are Turning To Motivational Speakers. by Nobody: 7:03pm On Sep 21, 2016
Its gone past motivation. Its Jesus I need. I have done all that I was asked to do except seeing a psychiatrist. Trust me you have no idea. Its easy to say but if you were in my shoes you'd know better. Tell me, if its not diabolical I will do it.
DanielGb:


I went through your page and notice that this your doubt have been active since 2015. However, alot of people were trying to motivate you but here you are again. Some even gave you little solutions.

But for me,
I want you to do something unique? It simple.

Will you?
Re: ATTENTION: What Is Happening? Our Pastors Are Turning To Motivational Speakers. by DanielGb(m): 7:17pm On Sep 21, 2016
Millerz:
Its gone past motivation. Its Jesus I need. I have done all that I was asked to do except seeing a psychiatrist. Trust me you have no idea. Its easy to say but if you were in my shoes you'd know better. Tell me, if its not diabolical I will do it.

Haha! Diaboli wat? I no dey that side.

It simple.

Step 1:
Take a clean paper. Write numerically, a list of answered prayers you can remember from last 5 years till today.

For confidential reasons.
I will reply you by email: danielakins4real@gmail.com
Send me the List to the email.

After then, i will tell you STEP 2.
Its something that will surprise you.
cheesy

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