Lennycool:

To put it plainly, no he did not kill anybody. All tales about him a made up. He is just fiction.

So GOD has been acquitted of murder charges. LOL.

Now, is the Bible a fiction book? If it is, are the killings there not fictional?

Teempakguy:
So what exactly is the benefit of free will then? it would seem that the angels who don't possess this pesky thing called free will have been enjoying heaven from time immemorial. And us humans who supposedly have free will are not only suffering on this earth, but are in grave danger of suffering for eternity upon our death. According to the bible, the only thing "freewill" ever does is land people in trouble.

When you think about it, free will, IF the Judeochristian God actually exists, is the greatest scam ever created.

What will be point of me responding to you since you have made up your mind that Yahweh is a scam.
Believe what you want. Goodluck.

DoctorAlien:


GOD told David that since he slept with someone's wife, someone will sleep with his wives. This happened when Absalom slept with his father David's concubines. The Bible text does not say that the concubines were raped. Probably Absalom slept with his father's concubines to prove to Israel that even David's wives had left him(2 Sam 16:21-22). Probable also is that the intercourse was consensual, although the text doesn't say so either.

Notice, however, that if Absalom raped the women, David would not have punished them by shutting them up for the rest of his life(2 Sam 20:3). And if the intercourse was consensual, that would've been adultery and the women would have been stoned to death.

You say sleep as if the wives will give consent. God did not say if David wives agreed to his plan, he simply said he would give his wives (notice it is plural) to his neighbour to lie with, in the presence of all of Isreal. And about the slavery aspect, you say people sold themselves into slavery for one reason or the other. But notice that the maidservant didn't sell herself rather her father sold her. Also what about the other passages I presented where the villages were raided and all the males young (children and babies) and old were slaughtered and the woman who were not virgins killed. The rest were taken as slaves. Defend this please.

DoctorAlien:


So GOD has been acquitted of murder charges. LOL.

Now, is the Bible a fiction book? If it is, are the killings there not fictional?

Yes all the killings are fictional and so is God, but since Christians want to take it as non fiction, we shall analyze it as such. So for the sake of argument we will assume it was real.

Lennycool:

You say sleep as if the wives will give consent. God did not say if David wives agreed to his plan, he simply said he would give his wives (notice it is plural) to his neighbour to lie with, in the presence of all of Isreal. And about the slavery aspect, you say people sold themselves into slavery for one reason or the other. But notice that the maidservant didn't sell herself rather her father sold her. Also what about the other passages I presented where the villages were raided and all the males young (children and babies) and old were slaughtered and the woman who were not virgins killed. The rest were taken as slaves. Defend this please.

Remember GOD does not exist so how did He say that? Kidding. LOL

GOD simply told David that it will be meted to him with the same measure with which he meted to another. Read again.

The people that were slaughtered were Midianites. Read about them and how they led Israel into sin. GOD simply judged them for that.

DoctorAlien:


Remember GOD does not exist so how did He say that? Kidding. LOL

GOD simply told David that it will be meted to him with the same measure with which he meted to another. Read again.

The people that were slaughtered were Midianites. Read about them and how they led Israel punishment GOD simply judged them for that.

So you accept genocide and rape as a suitable punishment

Lennycool:

Yes all the killings are fictional and so is God, but since Christians want to take it as non fiction, we shall analyze it as such. So for the sake of argument we will assume it was real.

Hahahahahahahahahahhahahaha

The argument is dead on arrival then, because if the Bible is a fiction book, then history would not recognise some of the figures mentioned therein, such as Jesus.

If all the killings in the Bible are not real, why do atheists go about all day moaning about them? Do you realise it's just like moaning all day about the people that batman killed?

Do you even realize that if the Bible is a fiction, then the present day Israelites did not descend from the Bible Israelites?

LOL

The topic of this thread actually sound stupid. I dnt knw the level of cert u ve attained in english language. God is not an Object, he is alive. I dnt want to dwell too much on this but he was in the same place he was/is everytime you commit sin.

Lennycool:

So you accept genocide and rape as a suitable punishment

GOD never condoned rape, okay?

Now remember: GOD created me, He created you, He created everything. He gives and takes life, and no one questions Him.

He is a just GOD. He wears Justice like a robe. The wages of sin and rebellion against GOD is death. When a creature chooses to rebel against its Creator unrepentantly, what awaits it but utter destruction?

This same destruction awaits those who refuse to turn away from sin despite all the loving efforts GOD is making to save them from death and give them eternal life.

DoctorAlien:


Hahahahahahahahahahhahahaha

The argument is dead on arrival then, because if the Bible is a fiction book, then history would not recognise some of the figure mentioned therein, such as Jesus.

If all the killings in the Bible are not real, why do atheists go about all day moaning about them? Do you realise it's just like moaning all day about the people that batman killed?

Do you even realize that if the Bible is a fiction, then the present day Israelites did not descend from the Bible Israelites?

LOL

See you jubilating like you won an argument, the present nation of Isreal was created in the 1940's after ww2 as a place that Jewish immigrants could call home, they where the ones who chose the name Isreal for their new nation. Its public knowledge and you can read about it.
There is no reliable proof that jesus ever existed, and even if he did he was probably just a mortal that preached based on the old testament, no supernatural healings or stunts, those were just added to make him seem more God and acceptable to the pagans around.
Most people don't believe batman is real, so there is no need to argue about the people he killed or didn't, whereas a sizeable population believes God and everything in the bible actually happened, so atheist argue based on them.

Lennycool:

See you jubilating like you won an argument, the present nation of Isreal was created in the 1940's after ww2 as a place that Jewish immigrants could call home, they where the ones who chose the name Isreal for their new nation. Its public knowledge and you can read about it.
Most people don't believe batman is real, so there is no need to argue about the people he killed or didn't, whereas a sizeable population believes God and everything in the bible actually happened, so atheist argue based on them.

When I say Israelites, I mean Jews, okay? Jews are everywhere. But if you say that the Bible is fiction, from whom did the Jews descend?

Oh really? You atheists are so concerned about GOD because many people believe in Him? Why are you concerned anyway?

If the Bible is fiction just like batman, why don't you moan all day about batman's killings and emphasizing how evil and wicked batman is?

Why are you interested in GOD?

DoctorAlien:


GOD never condoned rape, okay?

Now remember: GOD created me, He created you, He created everything. He gives and takes life, and no one questions Him.

He is a just GOD. He wears Justice like a robe. The wages of sin and rebellion against GOD is death. When a creature chooses to rebel against its Creator unrepentantly, what awaits it but utter destruction?

This same destruction awaits those who refuse to turn away from sin despite all the loving efforts GOD is making to save them from death and give them eternal life.

I gave you a logical argument an now you are taking me back to your book of lies, I just showed you were your loving father supported rape, slavery and genocide and yet you try to bend logic.

Lennycool:

I gave you a logical argument an now you are taking me back to your book of lies, I just showed you were your loving father supported rape, slavery and genocide and yet you try to bend logic.

But He doesn't exist, remember?

Meanwhile, history agrees with my "Book of Lies" that Jesus existed. Does history lie too?

DoctorAlien:


But He doesn't exist, remember?

Meanwhile, history agrees with my "Book of Lies" that Jesus existed. Does history lie too?

Didn't you read my earlier post. History hasn't agreed on the existence of Jesus. There is no reliable proof that he ever existed. So what's you argument. Check the web.

Lennycool:

Didn't you read my earlier post. History hasn't agreed on the existence of Jesus. There is no reliable proof that he ever existed. So what's you argument. Check the web.

Read "historicity of Jesus" on wikipedia and see for yourself. Read also "Evidence from Tacitus". LOL. At least no one can deny Tacitus was a historian.

Also check "biblical figures identified in extrabiblical sources."

History records Jesus' existence.

DoctorAlien:


Read "historicity of Jesus" on wikipedia and see for yourself. Read also "Evidence from Tacitus". LOL. At least no one can deny Tacitus was a historian.

Also check "biblical figures identified in extrabiblical sources."

History records Jesus' existence.

Most scholars of antiquity agree that Jesus existed,[54][55][56][57]but scholars differ on the historicity of specific episodes described in the Biblical accounts of Jesus.[14]:181The only two events subject to "almost universal assent" are that Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist and was crucifiedby the order of the Roman Prefect Pontius Pilate.[12][58][59]Elements whose historical authenticity is disputed include the two accounts of the nativity of Jesus, the miraculous events including the resurrection, and certain details about the crucifixion.[60][61][62][63][64][65]
This is a direct quote from the wikipedia page about the history of Jesus. As a confirmation of what I said, even if he existed he was just mortal.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus?_e_pi_=7%2CPAGE_ID10%2C5280288763

Lennycool:

Most scholars of antiquity agree that Jesus existed,[54][55][56][57]but scholars differ on the historicity of specific episodes described in the Biblical accounts of Jesus.[14]:181The only two events subject to "almost universal assent" are that Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist and was crucifiedby the order of the Roman Prefect Pontius Pilate.[12][58][59]Elements whose historical authenticity is disputed include the two accounts of the nativity of Jesus, the miraculous events including the resurrection, and certain details about the crucifixion.[60][61][62][63][64][65]
This is a direct quote from the wikipedia page about the history of Jesus. As a confirmation of what I said, even if he existed he was just mortal.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus?_e_pi_=7%2CPAGE_ID10%2C5280288763

But according to you, the Bible is a fiction book and the things recorded there are not real. Did you lie?

DoctorAlien:


But according to you, the Bible is a fiction book and the things recorded there are not real. Did you lie?

I said the things written about God were lies and they are. God never existed and he never performed any miracles.

Lennycool:

I said the things written about God were lies and they are. God never existed and he never performed any miracles.

But you said that the Bible is fictional, together with the killings in it:

Lennycool:

Yes all the killings are fictional and so is God, but since Christians want to take it as non fiction, we shall analyze it as such. So for the sake of argument we will assume it was real.

Were the killings about GOD too?

DoctorAlien:


But you said that the Bible is fictional, together with the killings in it:



Were the killings about GOD too?

What killings?

Lennycool:

What killings?

Are you now confused?

You said the Bible is a fictional book. You said the killings in the Bible are all fiction. You then turned to say that the things written about GOD in the Bible are not true.(LOL. changing of stance).

Now, lemme ask again for clarity sake: is the Bible a fictional book? Yes or No?

Lennycool:

I said the things written about God were lies and they are. God never existed and he never performed any miracles.

If Jesus existed but did not perform any miracles or live His life as the Bible narrates it, tell us how Jesus lived on earth.

DoctorAlien:


Are you now confused?

You said the Bible is a fictional book. You said the killings in the Bible are all fiction. You then turned to say that the things written about GOD in the Bible is not true.(LOL. changing of stance).

Now, lemme ask again for clarity sake: is the Bible a fictional book? Yes or No?

Don't twist my words. The bible is a fictional book, God is fictional, and hence he did not kill anyone as he is madeup(imaginary). Hope you get me now. Jesus's existence is accepted but not his miracles or supernatural stunts, just as most works of fiction incorporate the real world with fantasies, so does the bible, the ancient tribe known as the Israel created God and incorporated things in their life to him. God and everything done by him is made up. There, hope I'm clear. This will have to be continued tomorrow.

Lennycool:

Don't twist my words. The bible is a fictional book, God is fictional, and hence he did not kill anyone as he is madeup(imaginary). Hope you get me now. Jesus's existence is accepted but not his miracles or supernatural stunts, just as most works of fiction incorporate the real world with fantasies, so does the bible, the ancient tribe known as the Israel created God and incorporated things in their life to him. God and everything done by him is made up. There, hope I'm clear. This will have to be continued tomorrow.

You're funny. Now, how did you even know for sure that ancient Israel worshipped GOD or created Him?

Now, is everything in the Bible fiction? If not, distinguish clearly between the ones that are fiction and the ones that are not fiction.

analice107:


What will be point of me responding to you since you have made up your mind that Yahweh is a scam.
Believe what you want. Goodluck.

If I could just "believe what I want" ed, I wouldn't be an agnostic atheist. There's no harm in explaining to me what exactly free will has done to profit anyone.
I've thought of it for a long time, and I'm yet to come up with a reasonable explanation for why free will is a good thing. You see, the thing is, with free will comes the desire to break rules. And for a God who's so passionate about rules, You'd expect him to create only law abiding beings. It's not like it's impossible. He made angels that way.
But oh no, It seems he's more comfortable with creating intrinsically chaotic and unruly beings and then condemning them to eternal torment.

The funny thing is even with all this behavior, I'm not surprised at all. It's entirely predictable for a supernatural being to get bored and decide to create playthings to screw with. What ticks me off is how the same guy is suddenly described as "A loving God" with "best intentions."

The only answers I've ever received on this subject are pathetic ones like "You're blaspheming!", "God loves humans BUT . . . ", "Free will is a gift! would you like it if you had to obey every order?", "Believe what you want."

The point here is for you to simply calm down and discuss why you think I'm totally wrong. I'll actually listen if your theories are convincing.

AnonyNymous:

How can atheists be misotheists, pray tell? To hate something you have to recognise that it exists, right? Or could you please explain the definition of a misotheists further? Does misotheism include hating the effects of the imaginary god?

Ah, right. I most definitely wasn't in my right senses when I said that.

The word I'm looking for is "Anti-theist" as opposed to "misotheist."

These labels do piss me off.

DoctorAlien:


You're funny. Now, how did you even know for sure that ancient Israel worshipped GOD or created Him?

Now, is everything in the Bible fiction? If not, distinguish clearly between the ones that are fiction and the ones that are not fiction.

See question oh, how do humans discover anything about history, we found their scrolls and tablets, a less edited version of what you now call the bible, so we know they worshipped God. Try to reason before you ask the next question.

ReorxTohGan:
Nah I Think, He Wos Busy Teachin' Ur Dumb Great Grandpa How To S*x Ur Nullskull Great Granny....May Almight God Overlook Ur Stupidity.*Blasphemy*

SMH for ur stupidity

He was outsmart by Satan,dat should tell u dat he is not dat smart as Christians want us to believe

reallest:

SMH for ur stupidity

aunty Is U Retard 4real Or U Jus Playinq Dumb

DoctorAlien:


You're funny. Now, how did you even know for sure that ancient Israel worshipped GOD or created Him?

Now, is everything in the Bible fiction? If not, distinguish clearly between the ones that are fiction and the ones that are not fiction.

Hey, PLEASE I beg u with the name of the lord! Don't finish that guy(lennycool). You want to burst his brain?? Take it easy with him abeg, lol.

I just see how you wanted to break the guy's mental capacity. Good one anyway!

reallest:
He was outsmart by Satan,dat should tell u dat he is not dat smart as Christians want us to believe

If god had interven wouldn't that be injustice to his initial reason of man's creation. God is righteous! Righteousness is his nature!

Believe it or not, HE IS!