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Re: Why The Anti-american Hate And Rhetoric Here? by APCsupporter: 10:04am On Oct 02, 2016
Muafrika2:


Your country is killing us with GMOs, Ebola, HIV, ISISs. US is a colonial master. Until we can get back at you, well just hate from far. And apply for visas to come take back the money siphoned from our land to yours by your multi nationals who stole all our minerals.

Good response. Pure and simple

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Re: Why The Anti-american Hate And Rhetoric Here? by ATERI(m): 10:13am On Oct 02, 2016
SlaughterGang:
Y'all mad you got denied Visas? Seriously stop the jealousy, it's downright comical cheesy



Or is there a better reason why you have such hatred? cheesy

Of course, there are better reasons why people criticize America than the laughable reasons you posted above. What type of delusion would make you think that people criticize America because they were denied visas? I mean, what are you thinking and where have you been living? Are you sure you are American living in America, because only a confused African-American would be surprised at seeing blacks that are critical of America. If you want an intelligent argument, maybe you should start by asking yourself how many topics that are critical of America make it to the front page of Nairaland. Please ask yourself how soft Nigerians are on fellow Nigerians, especially Nigerians that are in the corridors of power as leaders. You are displaying one of the characteristics of a typical American here, which is to comment and judge others without full information.
You can also tell us what percentage of the news that you watch or listen to in America that is positive and portray Africa, especially Nigeria, in good light. Or you just think that American networks should have monopoly on the demonization of others without any reply?

I like the way you have been characterising Nigeria in your postings here. Since America is a paradise, do you mind telling me what America is actually good at? Do you have the best literacy rate in the world or is income inequality in your country the lowest? What about your infant mortality rate and what is the poverty rate in God`s own country? When it comes to the indices that define a great nation, does America lead the world in any shape or form? Of course, I would give it to you that you are in possession of all the infrastructure of terror, but beyond that, anything? Yours is a country that doesn`t have a mandatory paid leave for your labour force nation-wide and you still think that people should not criticise America. Your America was responsible for the murder of the winner of the best presidential election in the history of Nigeria and so many other terrorist acts that have never been punished.
My brother, if you want me to define America for you, it`s the topmost terrorist nation in the world. Good morning!

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Re: Why The Anti-american Hate And Rhetoric Here? by APCsupporter: 10:27am On Oct 02, 2016
Lucasbalo:
Go and tell the people working for those companies that they are getting peanuts in a country where an average citizen earns less than $2 a day. All your Thieflicians and their proxies stealing the country blind, how many employment they created in Nigeria. They take the money abroad. That's how useless your leadership are. Imagine a President has to travel to London to get ordinary ear of his fixed. You guys don't know how bad Nigeria is as a country because most of you are just used to third world way of living. Hating America won't add any positive to your life. It's only for entertainment on Nairaland.

Its your type that made this country what it is today. You sold us out for mirrors and bicycles. God will judge you.

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Re: Why The Anti-american Hate And Rhetoric Here? by APCsupporter: 10:29am On Oct 02, 2016
Muafrika2:


I now see you are a Nigerian who ran away for greener pastures. You should have stayed here since you do not see anything wrong with multinationals paying workers less than 2$ a day.

I really don't know your independence fighters. But am sure they would agree with me concerning your kind. So will the future ones.

Bros don't mind those guys. They are too blind to see reality. America is an evil nation and we shall continue to say it.

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Re: Why The Anti-american Hate And Rhetoric Here? by Nobody: 10:34am On Oct 02, 2016
APCsupporter:


Bros don't mind those guys. They are too blind to see reality. America is an evil nation and we shall continue to say it.
Re: Why The Anti-american Hate And Rhetoric Here? by Nobody: 11:59am On Oct 02, 2016
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Re: Why The Anti-american Hate And Rhetoric Here? by Nobody: 12:04pm On Oct 02, 2016
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Re: Why The Anti-american Hate And Rhetoric Here? by Nobody: 1:45pm On Oct 02, 2016
ATERI:


Of course, there are better reasons why people criticize America than the laughable reasons you posted above. What type of delusion would make you think that people criticize America because they were denied visas? I mean, what are you thinking and where have you been living? Are you sure you are American living in America, because only a confused African-American would be surprised at seeing blacks that are critical of America. If you want an intelligent argument, maybe you should start by asking yourself how many topics that are critical of America make it to the front page of Nairaland. Please ask yourself how soft Nigerians are on fellow Nigerians, especially Nigerians that are in the corridors of power as leaders. You are displaying one of the characteristics of a typical American here, which is to comment and judge others without full information.

You can also tell us what percentage of the news that you watch or listen to in America that is positive and portray Africa, especially Nigeria, in good light? Or you just think that American networks should have monopoly on the demonization of others without any reply?

I like the way you have been characterising Nigeria in your postings here. Since America is a paradise, do you mind telling me what America is actually good at? Do you have the best literacy rate in the world or is income inequality in your country the lowest? What about your infant mortality rate and what is the poverty rate in God`s own country? When it comes to the indices that define a great nation, does America lead the world in any shape or form? Of course, I would give it to you that you are in possession of all the infrastructure of terror, but beyond that, anything? Yours is a country that doesn`t have a mandatory paid leave for your labour force nation-wide and you still think that people should not criticise America. Your America was responsible for the murder of the winner of the best presidential election in the history of Nigeria and so many other terrorist acts that have never been punished.
My brother, if you want me to define America for you, it`s the topmost terrorist nation in the world. Good morning!

Excellent post! I’d like the Amerikans including traitors like Lucasbalo & his Committee of Amerikan Defenders to see what a nuclear strike in Amerika looks like. grin

Amerikans are complete wussies, look what 3000 dead on 9/11 did to their psyche? grin

Try 3 million dead - with the CIA, Pentagon & all Central Government wiped out. grin

The oligarchs who control Amerika are cold, heartless, calculating psychopaths without allegiance to any nation, philosophy or culture.

For them, money and power is everything and everything they could get their hands on can be stolen, murdered for & appropriated.

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Re: Why The Anti-american Hate And Rhetoric Here? by capip120(m): 2:16pm On Oct 02, 2016
Appleyard:


With that list, the United States of Anarchy is practically at war with the rest of the world. But, like we all know, some of our Kool Aid drinking brothers on the otherwise won't bother to checkout facts for themselves before commenting. None of them will borther to ask why was the United States voted as the greatest threat to World Peace? The only defense they can put up is that you are jealous of America's freedom and wealth. And you hate America because you wasn't able to secure a visa. Now, that's how you can tell a delusional gentleman from a critical thinker.

Let them be, brother. With time, they will learn.
Comrade I think you hit the nail on the head with these few words of yours. You see the problem with America goes beyond just being hypocritical, double standards, cunning and greed. The problem is that only a few minority calls the shot there and they have made it a duty to keep the wools on the eyes of their citizens till God knows when.
The Average American don't know about the outside world or what life is about on the other side. They don't even care because to them life begins and ends in America, all they ever want to do is get high, go clubbing, go to the best hotels and roll with fancy cars (no hating).
Until The United States of Anarchy is liberated from neoconservatives, the gross misinformation going on by the MSM will continue unabated. America went from good to become the words biggest threat and it is high time we all rise and put this Meddlesome Interloper where it belongs.

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Re: Why The Anti-american Hate And Rhetoric Here? by Nobody: 2:43pm On Oct 02, 2016
Braden105:
Cry me a river


You had to create a new monika yesterday just because you're scared grin

Come on - mention me with your main monika if you ain't a pvssy. grin

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Re: Why The Anti-american Hate And Rhetoric Here? by Nobody: 2:44pm On Oct 02, 2016
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Re: Why The Anti-american Hate And Rhetoric Here? by Lucasbalo(m): 3:02pm On Oct 02, 2016
Braden105:
What Moniker? This is my only handle here. this is the 5th handle i've created and i might even delete this too in a few weeks if i get bored here. I've had Braden102,Braden104,Braden107,Braden109 ,and now Braden105. I mostly post on property section.
All what you guys are saying is total garbage.You are the underdog . Every country always fights for it's interest .You think Russia or North Korea are fighting or your interest? None are innocent. Your bickering changes nothing . Even if Nigeria were world power,Nigeria would also dominate ,and other countries would also bicker about Nigeria. Blame your corrupt leaders for Nigeria's predicament.
Don't mind the low lifers. Anything about America, they will all come out of their caves. It's nothing new. When you live inside a Titanic, the best thing is to help your ship from sinking. Charity begins at home. The worthless and corrupt leaders who turned what's suppose to be the pride of Africa to a junk yard and cesspool of rot should be their concern not a great country that's not perfect. With the hyper inflation and Naira dropping like snow from the sky, their obsession is a country thousands of miles away. American Embassy is in Abuja and the Consulate is in Lagos, they can go there and do the needful.
Re: Why The Anti-american Hate And Rhetoric Here? by Lucasbalo(m): 3:20pm On Oct 02, 2016
APCsupporter:


Its your type that made this country what it is today. You sold us out for mirrors and bicycles. God will judge you.
The garbage you posted is not for me. How did I sold you out for mirrors and bicycles ?. Go and blame your worthless leaders over the years who looted and still looting the Commonwealth. I have never taken a dime of Nigeria's money. Maybe you are sleeping when you posted the tripe.
Re: Why The Anti-american Hate And Rhetoric Here? by APCsupporter: 4:27pm On Oct 02, 2016
Lucasbalo:
The garbage you posted is not for me. How did I sold you out for mirrors and bicycles ?. Go and blame your worthless leaders over the years who looted and still looting the Commonwealth. I have never taken a dime of Nigeria's money. Maybe you are sleeping when you posted the tripe.




Shut up I said its your type. These evil people set africans against each other and stole our resources worth billions by buying people like you with bicycoes and mirrors.

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Re: Why The Anti-american Hate And Rhetoric Here? by ATERI(m): 6:15pm On Oct 02, 2016
Zoharariel:


Excellent post! I’d like the Amerikans including traitors like Lucasbalo & his Committee of Amerikan Defenders to see what a nuclear strike in Amerika looks like. grin

Amerikans are complete wussies, look what 3000 dead on 9/11 did to their psyche? grin

Try 3 million dead - with the CIA, Pentagon & all Central Government wiped out. grin

The oligarchs who control Amerika are cold, heartless, calculating psychopaths without allegiance to any nation, philosophy or culture.

For them, money and power is everything and everything they could get their hands on can be stolen, murdered for & appropriated.

There is this tendency to create their own bubble and see it as reality. Over 300,000 of Yemeni children are being starved to death as we speak, but their evil networks are only concentrating on what Russia is doing wrong in Syria. All the weapons being used by the Saudis in Yemen are coming from London and Washington, but there is rarely a mention of it in Anglo-American media. That partly explains the type of hyperbolical rubbish the so-called Nigerians in America post online

Please, keep on doing the good work you have been doing. Stay blessed!

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Re: Why The Anti-american Hate And Rhetoric Here? by Lucasbalo(m): 9:05pm On Oct 02, 2016
APCsupporter:





Shut up I said its your type. These evil people set africans against each other and stole our resources worth billions by buying people like you with bicycoes and mirrors.
Dummy, you don't know what the heck you talking about. Go and fuss at your useless leaders not people like me. I am not the source of your woes, it's your corrupt leaders.
Re: Why The Anti-american Hate And Rhetoric Here? by APCsupporter: 9:25pm On Oct 02, 2016
Lucasbalo:
Dummy, you don't know what the heck you talking about. Go and fuss at your useless leaders not people like me. I am not the source of your woes, it's your corrupt leaders.

It seems like you are an american yourself. Well I'm not surprised if that's the case. You think you can continue to enslave weak countries? You will soon meet your waterloo

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Re: Why The Anti-american Hate And Rhetoric Here? by Nobody: 6:59pm On Oct 03, 2016
SlaughterGang,

the reasons are many.

America has a long histor of slavery with slaves taken from West Africa.

People around the world watch the police shootings targeting young Blacks.

America's reputation (not only in Nigeria) is not clean. We can't deny that America's wars have often served their best interest.

America has been trying to impose their gay laws on African cultures, it's considered neo-colonialism, not an enforcement of human rights, which most Nigerians do not even enjoy in Nigeria.

Nigerians have been brainwashed into believing that other countries are controlling their misfortune so that their leaders can fill their pockets with the development aid coming from the USA or other countries.

And too many people, not only in Nigeria, love to think in black/white or good/evil categories.

These are all the reasons which I could come up with spontanesouly. If I can think of more, I will be back.

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Re: Why The Anti-american Hate And Rhetoric Here? by lezznjr: 8:32am On Oct 04, 2016
Muafrika2:


Your country is killing us with GMOs, Ebola, HIV, ISISs. US is a colonial master. Until we can get back at you, well just hate from far. And apply for visas to come take back the money siphoned from our land to yours by your multi nationals who stole all our minerals.

OP is a delusional Nigerian student in the USA undergoing free charity educational programme.

He is also a known sociopath with residual schizophrenia and hyper-emotive disorder.

He craves attention like a stray street dog craves excreta.

His cyber mal-adaptation comes in various shades of monikers: Vanquay, vanquay16, Vanquay69, FuckdYobitch, NigerianTroll, WingBack, et al.

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Re: Why The Anti-american Hate And Rhetoric Here? by missjo(f): 10:42am On Oct 04, 2016
Lucasbalo:
The garbage you posted is not for me. How did I sold you out for mirrors and bicycles ?. Go and blame your worthless leaders over the years who looted and still looting the Commonwealth. I have never taken a dime of Nigeria's money. Maybe you are sleeping when you posted the tripe.
I'm sorry to interfere, I saw this thread because I follow someone who posted here.

My questions are:
1. What's your opinion on the way the US tries to police every other country into doing what she wants?

For example, just yesterday, Hungarians voted against accepting Syrian refugees. The US is having none of this,but how is it the business of the US to determine if another country should accept refugees.
Canadian PM in the last UN summit made a move to accept refugees into his country in their thousands, why doesn't the US do same of she cares so much about refugees rather than trying to bully other countries into doing what they don't want?

Another recent instance is the issue of France banning Muslim women from wearing BURKINIS at the beach. Again, the US is citing civil rights and condemning it.
But how is it the business of the US?

2. What's your opinion on the Russian, China, and most notably, North-Korean anti-american sentiments?
We understand how potentially destructive it is for countries to develop nuclear weapons and then go ahead to test them. But do you know that America is the first and only country to have detonated a nuclear weapon?
Since this is the case, what gives the US a right to decide who should develop nuclear weapons?

China as a country enjoys trade agreements and economic partnership with the US, yet they are innately anti-american.
The censure in that country is so much that the government openly limits what it calls 'western influence' especially in their media. IS THIS A BAD THING?

3. Are you a Nigerian?
If not, why do you remain on this forum which is a product of the country which you detest so much?

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Re: Why The Anti-american Hate And Rhetoric Here? by missjo(f): 10:45am On Oct 04, 2016
Mindfulness:
SlaughterGang,

the reasons are many.

America has a long histor of slavery with slaves taken from West Africa.

People around the world watch the police shootings targeting young Blacks.

America's reputation (not only in Nigeria) is not clean. We can't deny that America's wars have often served their best interest.

America has been trying to impose their gay laws on African cultures, it's considered neo-colonialism, not an enforcement of human rights, which most Nigerians do not even enjoy in Nigeria.

Nigerians have been brainwashed into believing that other countries are controlling their misfortune so that their leaders can fill their pockets with the development aid coming from the USA or other countries.

And too many people, not only in Nigeria, love to think in black/white or good/evil categories.

These are all the reasons which I could come up with spontanesouly. If I can think of more, I will be back.
You brought me here smiley

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Re: Why The Anti-american Hate And Rhetoric Here? by Lucasbalo(m): 3:30pm On Oct 04, 2016
missjo:

I'm sorry to interfere, I saw this thread because I follow someone who posted here.

My questions are:
1. What's your opinion on the way the US tries to police every other country into doing what she wants?

For example, just yesterday, Hungarians voted against accepting Syrian refugees. The US is having none of this,but how is it the business of the US to determine if another country should accept refugees.
Canadian PM in the last UN summit made a move to accept refugees into his country in their thousands, why doesn't the US do same of she cares so much about refugees rather than trying to bully other countries into doing what they don't want?

Another recent instance is the issue of France banning Muslim women from wearing BURKINIS at the beach. Again, the US is citing civil rights and condemning it.
But how is it the business of the US?

2. What's your opinion on the Russian, China, and most notably, North-Korean anti-american sentiments?
We understand how potentially destructive it is for countries to develop nuclear weapons and then go ahead to test them. But do you know that America is the first and only country to have detonated a nuclear weapon?
Since this is the case, what gives the US a right to decide who should develop nuclear weapons?

China as a country enjoys trade agreements and economic partnership with the US, yet they are innately anti-american.
The censure in that country is so much that the government openly limits what it calls 'western influence' especially in their media. IS THIS A BAD THING?

3. Are you a Nigerian?
If not, why do you remain on this forum which is a product of the country which you detest so much?
Let me answer your three questions straight up. I am not in support of America policing or interfering in any country as long as America is not threatened. I am an isolationist in the sense that I believe America should worry about America as long as no nation threaten her. About China, Russia and North Korea, I couldn't care about them or their hatred for US. America is a very strong country that can take care of herself. Your last question was if I am a Nigerian and if not what am I doing on Nairaland. I was born in Nigeria as an American citizen by both Nigerian American parents but grew up with my siblings in US. I don't hate Nigeria because Nigerian blood runs through my veins. I just don't like the way the country is being run to the ground due to corruption , greed, nepotism and tribalism. I visit Nigeria at least once or twice a year to see my folks who are back to Nigeria many years ago after their retirement . In fact, will be in Lagos in December. Critiquing your leadership is the highest form of patriotism. I criticize America too because I believe she's not perfect . I criticize America for her interventionalism and police brutality and senseless killings of minorities mainly Blacks and Latinos. I hope you got your answers.
Re: Why The Anti-american Hate And Rhetoric Here? by Nobody: 6:44pm On Oct 04, 2016
missjo:

You brought me here smiley

Let's talk then. cheesy
Re: Why The Anti-american Hate And Rhetoric Here? by Nobody: 7:18pm On Oct 04, 2016
missjo:

I'm sorry to interfere, I saw this thread because I follow someone who posted here.

My questions are:
1. What's your opinion on the way the US tries to police every other country into doing what she wants?

For example, just yesterday, Hungarians voted against accepting Syrian refugees. The US is having none of this,but how is it the business of the US to determine if another country should accept refugees.
Canadian PM in the last UN summit made a move to accept refugees into his country in their thousands, why doesn't the US do same of she cares so much about refugees rather than trying to bully other countries into doing what they don't want?

Hungary is part of the EU and the EU and the US of A are partners on many levels. It is legitimate to criticise your partners.
Obama also recommended that the British do not leave the EU. While some Brits got upset, others felt he supported them. Whatever you do, there is no pleasing everyone, especially not in politics, be it domestic or international. We have to allow freedom of speech on a global scale, we live in a globalized world. As long as you do not use bombs to force your opinion on others, a respectful dialogue should not be much of a problem. We would live in a much more peaceful world if we allowed and respected the opinions of others. It's hard sometimes, I know. wink

I think that you have asked the right questions which can initiate an interesting discourse but your rhetorics is part of the problem. You speak of the US as one political entity when in fact the US only exists as one geographical unit. The US like any other country is diverse and divided into different political camps, which also differ in their approach to international politics.

I think that we should be careful to condemn an entire nation, which consists of diverse political, religious, ethnic and racial groups. The Iraq War was one of the biggest biggest mistakes in human history but was it the US who invaded Iraq? No, it was the Bush jr. administration and if you want you can blame his voters too but what about the rest of America who didn't vote for him and who protested against the war?

It's more important than ever that we differentiate.

Another recent instance is the issue of France banning Muslim women from wearing BURKINIS at the beach. Again, the US is citing civil rights and condemning it.
But how is it the business of the US?

Again, who is the US here? Was it Obama, was it a Republican or was it a journalist or maybe a blogger? I am commenting on US presidential campaign all the time. Do I live in the US? No! Do I have the right to speak my mind? Yes, I do. Does it mean that I want to force my opinion on people? No. Is it my business? Yes! I live in a globalized world and what happens abroad affects me to some degree.

2. What's your opinion on the Russian, China, and most notably, North-Korean anti-american sentiments?
We understand how potentially destructive it is for countries to develop nuclear weapons and then go ahead to test them. But do you know that America is the first and only country to have detonated a nuclear weapon?
Since this is the case, what gives the US a right to decide who should develop nuclear weapons?

Again, who EXACTLY detonated these nuclear weapons? It's not the cab driver in New York or the strawberry picker from California, is it? And it wasn't even Obama, was it? And does it mean that all future governments have to keep quiet because of what former governmets did?


China as a country enjoys trade agreements and economic partnership with the US, yet they are innately anti-american.

Generalisation again. It's not that simple. Even Putin's relations with what is called the West are changing all the time, for better or for worse, like in an ordinary marriage grin . And like in Russia, in China alike, people support or oppose US governments and policies. You can perfectly observe how complicated these issues are in different European countries because while European governments have sanctioned Russia after the annexion of Crimea, Putin enjoys a lot of support from the opposition in some of these countries and people are divided into pro Russia or pro US. I was reading the comments under an article on the Syrian war yesterday. Europeans were fighting a cyber war and the two camps involved were either pro Russia or pro US. I was wondering if in all of this they forgot that this way of thinking is responsible for millions of casualties and children whose extremities were teared off by land mimes. sad


The censure in that country is so much that the government openly limits what it calls 'western influence' especially in their media. IS THIS A BAD THING?

Yes, it is. My two cents. The media should be free and people should decide what they want to see and have the freedom to decide. State censorship is a very dangerous thing.

If Nollywood improves their quality, for example, more people will watch their movies. If African producers learn to sell their artists successfully, more American and European kids will listen to African pop, hip hop and maybe even traditional music, some already do.

Europe is full of sushi restaurants, Buddhist monastries, Muslim fashion and most people - despite the rise of right wing parties - do not complain but embrace cultural diversity. It's called globalization. You can embrace or oppose it but I doubt that anyone can stop it.
Re: Why The Anti-american Hate And Rhetoric Here? by missjo(f): 8:00pm On Oct 04, 2016
Mindfulness:


Hungary is part of the EU and the EU and the US of A are partners on many levels. It is legitimate to criticise your partners.
Obama also recommended that the British do not leave the EU. While some Brits got upset, others felt he supported them. Whatever you do, there is no pleasing everyone, especially not in politics, be it domestic or international. We have to allow freedom of speech on a global scale, we live in a globalized world. As long as you do not use bombs to force your opinion on others, a respectful dialogue should not be much of a problem. We would live in a much more peaceful world if we allowed and respected the opinions of others. It's hard sometimes, I know. wink

I think that you have asked the right questions which can initiate an interesting discourse but your rhetorics is part of the problem. You speak of the US as one political entity when in fact the US only exists as one geographical unit. The US like any other country is diverse and divided into different political camps, which also differ in their approach to international politics.

I think that we should be careful to condemn an entire nation, which consists of diverse political, religious, ethnic and racial groups. The Iraq War was one of the biggest biggest mistakes in human history but was it the US who invaded Iraq? No, it was the Bush jr. administration and if you want you can blame his voters too but what about the rest of America who didn't vote for him and who protested against the war?

It's more important than ever that we differentiate.
Lol,you've got a funny way with skirting around the point of my question.
When a president makes a decision, America makes a decision. There's no such thing as differentiating the country into who supports what and who doesn't,this is a fact. The president won an election to be in charge of EVERYONE,not just those who voted for him. His decisions are American decisions,not Republican or Democrat decisions.

About the issue of Hungary,the question remains, what is it to US if another country refuses to accept refugees. It isn't the business of USA.
Also, why doesn't the US go get the refugees into its borders since it cares so much.dont you see how things like this make many countries develop anti-american sentiments regardless of having good bilateral relations on the surface?



Again, who is the US here? Was it Obama, was it a Republican or was it a journalist or maybe a blogger? I am commenting on US presidential campaign all the time. Do I live in the US? No! Do I have the right to speak my mind? Yes, I do. Does it mean that I want to force my opinion on people? No. Is it my business? Yes! I live in a globalized world and what happens abroad affects me to some degree.
Speaking one's mind is different from trying to force one's thoughts on another.
Again, what is it to the US what Muslim women wear in France?



Again, who EXACTLY detonated these nuclear weapons? It's not the cab driver in New York or the strawberry picker from California, is it? And it wasn't even Obama, was it? And does it mean that all future governments have to keep quiet because of what former governmets did?
America detonated a nuclear weapon,this is how history remembers it. It isn't judged by who was president,lol. Come on now,you gotta be joking by trying to make it seem like only few people are responsible.

What is the US scared of with countries that develop nukes?
If you ask me,i think they know very well that they're the most hated country on earth and will probably be the first target should world war 3 begin. You know this is the reason if you're honest.




Generalisation again. It's not that simple. Even Putin's relations with what is called the West are changing all the time, for better or for worse, like in an ordinary marriage grin . And like in Russia, in China alike, people support or oppose US governments and policies. You can perfectly observe how complicated these issues are in different European countries because while European governments have sanctioned Russia after the annexion of Crimea, Putin enjoys a lot of support from the opposition in some of these countries and people are divided into pro Russia or pro US. I was reading the comments under an article on the Syrian war yesterday. Europeans were fighting a cyber war and the two camps involved were either pro Russia or pro US. I was wondering if in all of this they forgot that this way of thinking is responsible for millions of casualties and children whose extremities were teared off by land mimes. sad
China and Russia are visibly and proudly anti-american,no need to argue that.




Yes, it is. My two cents. The media should be free and people should decide what they want to see and have the freedom to decide. State censorship is a very dangerous thing.

If Nollywood improves their quality, for example, more people will watch their movies. If African producers learn to sell their artists successfully, more American and European kids will listen to African pop, hip hop and maybe even traditional music, some already do.

Europe is full of sushi restaurants, Buddhist monastries, Muslim fashion and most people - despite the rise of right wing parties - do not complain but embrace cultural diversity. It's called globalization. You can embrace or oppose it but I doubt that anyone can stop it.
It is a bad thing,sure.

The question is the Chinese run a sovereign government,they are not an America colony. They make their laws as they deem fit, it isn't the right of you, I, or America to tell them which laws to make whether we like it or not. Get it?

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Re: Why The Anti-american Hate And Rhetoric Here? by missjo(f): 8:08pm On Oct 04, 2016
Lucasbalo:
Let me answer your three questions straight up. I am not in support of America policing or interfering in any country as long as America is not threatened. I am an isolationist in the sense that I believe America should worry about America as long as no nation threaten her. About China, Russia and North Korea, I couldn't care about them or their hatred for US. America is a very strong country that can take care of herself. Your last question was if I am a Nigerian and if not what am I doing on Nairaland. I was born in Nigeria as an American citizen by both Nigerian American parents but grew up with my siblings in US. I don't hate Nigeria because Nigerian blood runs through my veins. I just don't like the way the country is being run to the ground due to corruption , greed, nepotism and tribalism. I visit Nigeria at least once or twice a year to see my folks who are back to Nigeria many years ago after their retirement . In fact, will be in Lagos in December. Critiquing your leadership is the highest form of patriotism. I criticize America too because I believe she's not perfect . I criticize America for her interventionalism and police brutality and senseless killings of minorities mainly Blacks and Latinos. I hope you got your answers.
I got my answers.
Re: Why The Anti-american Hate And Rhetoric Here? by Nobody: 8:19pm On Oct 04, 2016
missjo:

Lol,you've got a funny way with skirting around the point of my question.
When a president makes a decision, America makes a decision. There's no such thing as differentiating the country into who supports what and who doesn't,this is a fact. The president won an election to be in charge of EVERYONE,not just those who voted for him. His decisions are American decisions,not Republican or Democrat decisions.

This is how democracies work and yet I won't feel responsible for a president declaring a war that I haven't voted for and I won't take the blame and neither will you. So yes, a president represents his or her country but not necessarily the will of every single person.

About the issue of Hungary,the question remains, what is it to US if another country refuses to accept refugees. It isn't the business of USA.
Also, why doesn't the US go get the refugees into its borders since it cares so much.dont you see how things like this make many countries develop anti-american sentiments regardless of having good bilateral relations on the surface?

I am not here to defend every decision that the American government or people make but the referendum wasn't about Hungary accepting refugees or not but whether there should be a central European quota system deciding how many refugees should be accepted or not. Let's be more precise about it. Moreover, the US have accepted Syrian refugess as far as I am informed (even though relatively few) and they are still the country that allows many migrants in every year.

And yes, I see how many political decisions lead to anti-American sentiments and I understand them perfectly well because I was the one (back then still in school) speaking out loud against the war on Iraq. Today I am helping refugees from Iraq. Welcome to the globalised world!

But I would like you tell me who criticised Hungary (out of curosity) because last time I checked the USA is not a person. wink


Speaking one's mind is different from trying to force one's thoughts on another.
Again, what is it to the US what Muslim women wear in France?


Again, who EXACTLY criticised France? I really want to know.
The European Union and the USA see themselves as a union of shared values and one of these values is freedom of religion so an American is justified in pointing out that such a decision can be considered a violation of this value. And it doesn't mean that I don't see that many of them have no right to criticise Europe when their presidential candiadate is well know for his islamophobic statements.


America detonated a nuclear weapon,this is how history remembers it. It isn't judged by who was president,lol. Come on now,you gotta be joking by trying to make it seem like only few people are responsible.

Not a few people and not everyone either. That's the point. Albert Einstein fled Nazi Germany. Was he responsible for Hitler's decisions or was he affected by them in one of the worst ways possible? According to your logic, he was responsible for simply being German, right?


What is the US scared of with countries that develop nukes?

Now you are joking.

If you ask me,i think they know very well that they're the most hated country on earth and will probably be the first target should world war 3 begin. You know this is the reason if you're honest.

I don't live in the most hated country in the world and yet I don't want countries to have nuclear weapons. This is the evidence of human incapacity and pathetic and I wonder why it takes so long for humans to overcome it. And just by the way, who the most country in the world is, very much depends from whose perspective you are looking at it.


China and Russia are visibly and proudly anti-american,no need to argue that.

Another mistake that many people make is to compare Russia and China. China has an entirely different approach to international politics.

It is a bad thing,sure.

The question is the Chinese run a sovereign government,they are not an America colony. They make their laws as they deem fit, it isn't the right of you, I, or America to tell them which laws to make whether we like it or not. Get it?

This here is the world wide web and it's not your right to tell me what to think or write, get it? wink
And since you have the freedom to criticise America and so do I, we can also criticise China because the decisions of their governments matter and because it would be hypocritical of you to criticise one country but tell me not to another.

I have a first experience with refugees who lost everything thank to Bush jr. and I see how this war led to the situation the region is now in today but I still won't join the wagon of those who think that every American is to blame for what political elites decided to do or didn't do.
Re: Why The Anti-american Hate And Rhetoric Here? by missjo(f): 8:27pm On Oct 04, 2016
Mindfulness:


This is how democracies work and yet I won't feel responsible for a president declaring a war that I haven't voted for and I won't take the blame and neither will you. So yes, a president represents his or her country but not necessarily the will of every single person.



I am not here to defend every decision that the American government or people make but the referendum wasn't about Hungary accepting refugees or not but whether there should be a central European quota system deciding how many refugees should be accepted or not. Let's be more precise about it. Moreover, the US have accepted Syrian refugess as far as I am informed (even though relatively few) and they are still the country that allows many migrants in every year.

And yes, I see how many political decisions lead to anti-American sentiments and I understand them perfectly well because I was the one (back then still in school) speaking out loud against the war on Iraq. Today I am helping refugees from Iraq. Welcome to the globalised world!

But I would like you tell me who criticised Hungary (out of curosity) because last time I checked the USA is not a person. wink





Again, who EXACTLY criticised France? I really want to know.
The European Union and the USA see themselves as a union of shared values and one of these values is freedom of religion so an American is justified in pointing out that such a decision can be considered a violation of this value. And it doesn't mean that I don't see that many of them have no right to criticise Europe when their presidential candiadate is well know for his islamophobic statements.




Not a few people and not everyone either. That's the point. Albert Einstein fled Nazi Germany. Was he responsible for Hitler's decisions or was he affected by them in one of the worst ways possible? According to your logic, he was responsible for simply being German, right?




Now you are joking.



I don't live in the most hated country in the world and yet I don't want countries to have nuclear weapons. This is the evidence of human incapacity and pathetic and I wonder why it takes so long for humans to overcome it. And just by the way, who the most country in the world is, very much depends from whose perspective you are looking at it.




Another mistake that many people make is to compare Russia and China. China has an entirely different approach to international politics.



This here is the world wide web and it's not your right to tell me what to think or write, get it? wink
And since you have the freedom to criticise America and so do I, we can also criticise China because the decisions of their governments matter and because it would be hypocritical of you to criticise one country but tell me not to another.

I have a first experience with refugees who lost everything thank to Bush jr. and I see how this war led to the situation the region is now in today but I still won't join the wagon of those who think that every American is to blame for what political elites decided to do or didn't do.
Okay then. smiley

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Re: Why The Anti-american Hate And Rhetoric Here? by SlaughterGang: 5:36am On Oct 05, 2016
Excellent Debates...At least there are intelligent people here.

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Re: Why The Anti-american Hate And Rhetoric Here? by Appleyard(m): 1:15pm On Oct 05, 2016
Lucasbalo:
Of all the HAC members, you are the one that's very surprising to me. I really believe you are very intelligent and I am not patronizing you. Who cares about what some non entity says about how America is the most hated country in the world. Let you and i travel anywhere in the world with our different passports and see the kind of different treatments we get. I have traveled very extensively due to work and R and R. The respect of carrying that blue passport is unique. Will be in Nigeria this coming December and the respect is still there. All you need to do is go on to Travel Section on this Nairaland and see how your country men are jostling for US visas. Go to the Consulate in Lagos and see the behemoth crowd seeking entrance to God's own Country. You and your comrades in HAC can say all kind of vile things about America, the bottom line is that the Americans don't give a hoot. With all the unimaginable corruption and nepotism coupled with your Naira turning to tissue paper, that doesn't bother you guys. It's America that gets your mojo kicking. If I live in Nigeria, the worthlessly corrupt and whole fully inept government will be my numero uno concern. Nigeria is like a Titanic sinking and you guys are foaming in the mouth about a First World and First Class Country. What a misplaced priorities. I won't be worried if the house 10 miles away from me is burning while I know my house is on fire. Charity begins at home. Make Nigeria whole before you critique a great country called USA.

Dear Lucas, need I repeat myself on why America is increasingly hated across the globe by so many informed people? I don't think so, cause we've been through that path before. Nobody dispute America being a first class nation, nor is anyone denying the respect and popularity it commands across the hemispheres, but there lies the irony: a country that is so popular and highly respected is, at the same, voted the greatest threat to World Peace; isn't that ironical enough? What does that entails? Simple! It entails that while many people across the globe recognized America as a very rich and open-arm nation that they desire to be, they nonetheless with equal passion highly resent it due to its military interventionism and warmongering destructive rhetorics.
The fact that America is rich and a notable global player amongst the committee of nations, doesn't mean it cannot be criticised for its destructive and overbearing Foreign Policy. I sometimes wondered why some of you can't even stomach a jot of criticism of America, which are right and constructive. It's like saying people MUST not be wary of water because its essential to human health, even when that same water drowns people, overflow its boundaries and destroy cities and lives. The America can-never-do-wrong Club of mendacity presupposes that since America has been of immense help to so many countries and its a place to be, we all MUST also embrace its destructive tendencies and warmongering, death machine ravaging the earth and causing instability from one place to another.. Such ACNDW Kool Aid logic, I must confess, is very appalling, don't you think?

Thanks be to God Almighty you made mention of Nigeria. Do you know that because of the senseless addictive corruption syndrome in this our beloved country, every well meaning Nigerian is now a potential suspect and highly discriminated against wherever they travelled, as a result of being stigmatized? Now, if such a predicament is confronting millions of innocent Nigerians today even when they did no wrong, what makes anyone think that America and its people should not be hated and criticised by so many others for the crimes of its government abroad, even when they (the people) did nothing wrong per se?

Therefore, America, like every other nation, has it Achilles hill and will be criticised more like every other nation. It is something you Anerican lovers cannot run away from, just as we ordinary Nigerians can't run away from the fact of being branded as a corrupt nation. And this is the reason we have Nairaland and it's foreign affairs segment, where all Nigerians and any other foreigner can discus anything of importance. It just don't have to do with how rich or poor we are, but constructively reviewing, criticising and analysing those things we feel and hold dear to us.

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Re: Why The Anti-american Hate And Rhetoric Here? by Appleyard(m): 1:31pm On Oct 05, 2016
ATERI:


Of course, there are better reasons why people criticize America than the laughable reasons you posted above. What type of delusion would make you think that people criticize America because they were denied visas? I mean, what are you thinking and where have you been living? Are you sure you are American living in America, because only a confused African-American would be surprised at seeing blacks that are critical of America. If you want an intelligent argument, maybe you should start by asking yourself how many topics that are critical of America make it to the front page of Nairaland. Please ask yourself how soft Nigerians are on fellow Nigerians, especially Nigerians that are in the corridors of power as leaders. You are displaying one of the characteristics of a typical American here, which is to comment and judge others without full information.
You can also tell us what percentage of the news that you watch or listen to in America that is positive and portray Africa, especially Nigeria, in good light. Or you just think that American networks should have monopoly on the demonization of others without any reply?

I like the way you have been characterising Nigeria in your postings here. Since America is a paradise, do you mind telling me what America is actually good at? Do you have the best literacy rate in the world or is income inequality in your country the lowest? What about your infant mortality rate and what is the poverty rate in God`s own country? When it comes to the indices that define a great nation, does America lead the world in any shape or form? Of course, I would give it to you that you are in possession of all the infrastructure of terror, but beyond that, anything? Yours is a country that doesn`t have a mandatory paid leave for your labour force nation-wide and you still think that people should not criticise America. Your America was responsible for the murder of the winner of the best presidential election in the history of Nigeria and so many other terrorist acts that have never been punished.
My brother, if you want me to define America for you, it`s the topmost terrorist nation in the world. Good morning!

Gbam! May you live, not to die, but raptured as a raw blooded Soulja of truth. cool Zoharariel, give this man a piece of Langley, Kiev, and the whole of Gaza and Golan Height. Cyprus000, this man ought to be in ya Bulava class submarine Edo state regiment.

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Re: Why The Anti-american Hate And Rhetoric Here? by ATERI(m): 2:01pm On Oct 05, 2016
Appleyard:


Gbam! May you live, not to die, but raptured as a raw blooded Soulja of truth. cool Zoharariel, give this man a piece of Langley, Kiev, and the whole of Gaza and Golan Height. Cyprus000, this man ought to be in ya Bulava class submarine Edo state regiment.

Great Apple!

You guys are the stars of this section. May God bless you for the good work you are doing; really proud of you!

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