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| Religious Conditioning And How It Is Done by EyeHateGod: 11:08am On Oct 20, 2016 |
Since a human's first breath, they are forced to be conditioned as replicas of their parents and society. Forced into a certain belief system, a certain set of opinions, and a certain set of morals. These humans grow up and, theoretically, become just as those before them, sustaining the laws of that society. Not only is this done to instill patriotism but it is also done in religion. Atheists are ridiculed everyday for being different; they do not conform to society's views on such ideals as religion, and because of that they are looked at as the "brainwashed" ones. It's pretty interesting, though, to look at this from a psychological perspective, because it suggests that the religious are the brainwashed ones. The Conditioning Technique To properly condition, one would be more successful to obtain a clean slate. Newborn babies are that clean slate, for they are less likely to question what they are taught as fact from those they trust when they knew no better. When this child is born, it is subjected, at the earliest age possible, to religious ritual. For example, Christianity and the baptism. Already, that human being is being forced into a ritual and religion without their consent, whether they understand what is going on or not is not relevant. It is not their choice. As they grow older, they are told over and over by their parents, who they trust instinctively to teach them facts, about that religion and ideals. They grow up at their most vulnerable stages being told that these religious beliefs are fact. They go to Sunday School, and are taught that no other religion is correct, that the others are considered cults, and that if one is a member of said cult or a nonbeliever at all, they instill the fear of hell and punishment into these still innocent and vulnerable minds. Who wouldn't believe their parents? Growing up, they are the first and most trusted teachers. They confirm all of the taught lessons from church and Sunday School, so in these children's heads, it must be true. Hearing the same information every day also would add validity in their minds and further plant this information into their brains. They are getting confirmation that these beliefs are correct in every aspect of life; home, school, and church. In "A Brave New World", a futuristic science fiction novel by Aldous Huxley, a conditioning technique is used on the infants and growing children to make sure people live up to society's standards, laws, and beliefs. They are not only conditioned physically, emotionally, and chemically, but also psychologically. At night, recorded suggestions are repeated over and over again until it is permanently in these children's heads. Now contrary to religious conditioning, this wasn't conditioning of facts, but merely suggestions to mold these individuals to behave certain ways in life. In the same way this is what goes on with children. They have these ideas and beliefs repeated over and over as fact from everyone in every aspect of life until there is no questioning because it's all they know. Atheists and Conditioning Atheists are able to see past this conditioning and do not conform to society. They are able to see what is happening to people. Some can even understand why these people believe what they do, and though it's not their fault, it can still be difficult when they deny fact or refuse to question what they already know. People fear change and fear not knowing. Atheism can be a courageous way of life. In one spectrum, there are these humans that have been conditioned to believe a certain way, pointing the fingers at atheists wishing death on them and trying to oppress them. In the other spectrum, everything that atheists were taught, whether by parents, society, or both, is recognized as not fact and not true, so to some it can be a difficult voyage to find purpose and answers. People fear the unknown. Atheists use it to learn new things and further explore the wonders of this universe. I remember when I first noticed all of this. All through Sunday School, even at the early age of about ten, I was questioning the validity of the scripture. I had found the errors and contradictions, but when I asked, I was greeted with an overly excited "god works in mysterious ways". I also remember the one time I was at a family function. Sitting on the couch, I saw my grandparents and my two aunts at the table, bowing their heads, and starting to say their supper prayer. They seemed like they were in a trance and all I heard was a depressing, low, monotone, memorized prayer escaping their lips. It actually made me sick and uncomfortable. I came to realize that day religion is instilled through conditioning and brainwashing from birth, and I was able to recall through both memory and what I was told, all of the times I was "conditioned" to believe this way of life and belief system. I vowed to myself to never conform to such a thing, and now it is easy for me and other atheists to see, but almost impossible for any religious person to. Brainwashed and conditioned people do not know they are brainwashed or conditioned. Source:AtheistRepublic 1 Like 1 Share
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| Re: Religious Conditioning And How It Is Done by EyeHateGod: 11:15am On Oct 20, 2016 |
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| Re: Religious Conditioning And How It Is Done by CoolUsername: 1:04pm On Oct 20, 2016 |
The fact that childhood indoctrination is such an important part of most religious shows the poverty of said religions. The total absence of fact proof is the reason why it is best peddled to the vulnerable; whether they are young children, bereaved, indigent, life the like. That seems to be the best time to sell your religion. This type of thought conditioning borders on emotional abuse, especially when practised in children. But that's the world we live in... 1 Like |
| Re: Religious Conditioning And How It Is Done by EyeHateGod: 1:21pm On Oct 20, 2016 |
CoolUsername:When i see people bellow the age of 18 i don't identify them by Christians or Muslims Rather I identify them as Child Of A Christian Or Muslim Parent 1 Like |
| Re: Religious Conditioning And How It Is Done by hopefulLandlord: 1:58pm On Oct 20, 2016 |
Indoctrination is key to the survival of any religion I had a chat with a devoted Christian sometime back and he couldn't explain why Jews do not accept Jesus as the Messiah; scratch that! He didn't KNOW the Jews don't worship Jesus let alone giving explanation why! He never knew what Judaism is Its a case of being restricted and the subconscious thinking this is all there is, the way you've been brought up Indoctrination isn't really WRONG though, it has its advantages but I always advice the adults should start examining and asking questions about the dogma given to you by your environment Think, think and keep thinking, ask and keep asking If after all these you still chose religion, its all good |
| Re: Religious Conditioning And How It Is Done by Ranchhoddas: 2:02pm On Oct 20, 2016 |
So wetin be the point of this thread now? Your lack of 'conditioning' makes you smarter? 1 Like |
| Re: Religious Conditioning And How It Is Done by DLondonboiy: 2:37pm On Oct 20, 2016 |
A fool has said in his heart 'There is no God'... |
| Re: Religious Conditioning And How It Is Done by EyeHateGod: 2:38pm On Oct 20, 2016 |
hopefulLandlord:Most Christians in 9ja Don't know what Judaism Is it's Quite funny? |
| Re: Religious Conditioning And How It Is Done by EyeHateGod: 2:40pm On Oct 20, 2016 |
DLondonboiy: 2 Likes 2 Shares
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| Re: Religious Conditioning And How It Is Done by EyeHateGod: 2:42pm On Oct 20, 2016 |
Ranchhoddas:Is this guilty conscience speaking or what? pls m not ready for games if you don't have anything reasonable to Say pls stay out my thread all this childish attitude annoys me! |
| Re: Religious Conditioning And How It Is Done by DLondonboiy: 2:47pm On Oct 20, 2016 |
[quote author=EyeHateGod post=50364036][/quote] My only problem is why a person would hate someone that doesn't exist..Funny isn't it? |
| Re: Religious Conditioning And How It Is Done by EyeHateGod: 2:51pm On Oct 20, 2016 |
DLondonboiy:My Moniker is cause of Christians Hypocrisy And also Stupidity av explained why i used it many times so i don't owe you an explanation |
| Re: Religious Conditioning And How It Is Done by hopefulLandlord: 2:55pm On Oct 20, 2016 |
DLondonboiy: Toooo Much Fallacies in that empty rhetoric you spill from that book of yours "The fool has said in his heart, 'There is no God.' They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that does good." (Psalms 14:1) ad hominem fallacy : An argument is discounted based on attacking the character of the person making the argument. ("He is wrong when he says there is no God, because he is a fool."  strawman fallacy : Arguing against a position by creating a different, weaker, or irrelevant position and refuting that position instead of the original. ("There is no God" misrepresents "There isn't sufficient evidence that God exists." circular reasoning : The truth of the conclusion is assumed in order to justify the premises. ("The fool says there is no God, because anyone who says there is no God is a fool." begging the question : The argument creates a secondary proposition that is related to the primary proposition, which requires a similar argument that is missing. (The existence of God is assumed, while addressing propositions of whether God exists.) fallacy of inconsistency : The argument is inconsistent with other arguments within the same context. In the Christian context, Jesus commands against the invective in Psalms 14:1, warning that "whoever says 'You fool!' shall be liable to the hell of fire" in Matthew 5:22. special pleading : The inappropriate attribution of emotive functions to objects that do not have that capability. (Hearts are not capable of "knowing" or of feeling emotions.) redundancy : Psalm 53 is identical to Psalm 14. questionable premise : It is obviously not the case that all atheists do nothing but bad deeds. This premise is invalidated by a single example of an atheist doing a single charitable act. those are the different fallacies committed by just one verse lmao! 2 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: Religious Conditioning And How It Is Done by DLondonboiy: 2:58pm On Oct 20, 2016 |
EyeHateGod: dont be angry my brother..you too dey quick vex... But why would you hate the king of kings because of the hypocrisy and stupidity of mortals..? Do you know God loves you? |
| Re: Religious Conditioning And How It Is Done by Ranchhoddas: 2:59pm On Oct 20, 2016 |
EyeHateGod:You obviously don't get your own thread. This is what copy and paste does to a person. |
| Re: Religious Conditioning And How It Is Done by EyeHateGod: 3:04pm On Oct 20, 2016 |
Ranchhoddas:Did You read it ? @bolded that is the game am talking about. it won't be tolerated in my thread if u have noting reasonable to say take that your dumb brain and get out! i first begged didn't i? 1 Like |
| Re: Religious Conditioning And How It Is Done by CoolUsername: 3:10pm On Oct 20, 2016 |
Ranchhoddas: That's not what this is about. We know what childhood indoctrination can do to a person (see ISIS, Boko Haram, etc.) All OP is saying is that it creates bias in the child's mind and hinders said child's ability to make informed decisions in the future. The worst aspect of this is that you can make a child believe anything whatsoever through indoctrination. Have you been taking blue pill lately? |
| Re: Religious Conditioning And How It Is Done by DLondonboiy: 3:14pm On Oct 20, 2016 |
hopefulLandlord: hahahha..only one verse... So my brother, We can all conclude that Gods word is more profound than human logic could grasp and the wisdom in the bible is deeper than mere reasoning... |
| Re: Religious Conditioning And How It Is Done by hopefulLandlord: 3:18pm On Oct 20, 2016 |
DLondonboiy: We can agree its a book full of fallacies and contradictions |
| Re: Religious Conditioning And How It Is Done by Ranchhoddas: 3:33pm On Oct 20, 2016 |
CoolUsername:I can also say the same for kids with atheistic upbringing. They are not given a chance to evaluate religions. They are brought up to regard it as unecessary and irrelevant. How is this not indoctrination? 1 Like |
| Re: Religious Conditioning And How It Is Done by EyeHateGod: 3:36pm On Oct 20, 2016 |
Ranchhoddas:Can u give me an Example of Kid with Atheistic upbringing? Me and winner01 and hopefullandlord went over this b4 And like i said if u have noting reasonable to say stay the fu*k out of my thread! 1 Like |
| Re: Religious Conditioning And How It Is Done by EyeHateGod: 3:39pm On Oct 20, 2016 |
CoolUsername:Help me ask am o if he had read the thread he wouldn't have commented that stupidity on here |
| Re: Religious Conditioning And How It Is Done by Ranchhoddas: 3:41pm On Oct 20, 2016 |
EyeHateGod:I had already left the thread until someone else (clearly smarter than you) quoted me. |
| Re: Religious Conditioning And How It Is Done by Ranchhoddas: 3:46pm On Oct 20, 2016 |
EyeHateGod:I meant that the person who quoted me was smarter than you judging from both your responses. Understanding can be really hard when you hate the imaginary. I sympathize with you. |
| Re: Religious Conditioning And How It Is Done by CoolUsername: 3:57pm On Oct 20, 2016 |
Ranchhoddas: Of course atheistic indoctrination is a thing. There are a lot of atheists who practise that, but atheists are by no means monolithic. I, for one, would raise my child without religion; he/she can later make that choice once mature enough. The problem is that indoctrination is intrinsic to EVERY. SINGLE. RELIGION that I know. True or false? |
| Re: Religious Conditioning And How It Is Done by EyeHateGod: 3:58pm On Oct 20, 2016 |
Ranchhoddas:I don't claim to be smart, But are u Smarter than him? Huh? I mean someone that can't even "Understand" a Short Thread... How smart can they be? I don't hate the imaginary but i guess u might be really dumb and blind when i gave an answer to the other guy above about My moniker? are u really on some blue pill? Or it's just plain delusion and love for the imaginary like you put it? Lwkmd |
| Re: Religious Conditioning And How It Is Done by Ranchhoddas: 4:17pm On Oct 20, 2016 |
CoolUsername:Ditto for religion. I concede that upbringing is a major factor in one's choice of religion, but at the end of the day grown-ups get to choose. You chose to leave didn't you? Why then do you think you are smarter or wiser than those who have chosen to stay? |
| Re: Religious Conditioning And How It Is Done by Ranchhoddas: 4:17pm On Oct 20, 2016 |
EyeHateGod:Gosh man. Stop misbehaving on your own thread! |
| Re: Religious Conditioning And How It Is Done by EyeHateGod: 4:21pm On Oct 20, 2016 |
Ranchhoddas:Lol when dumb people try to "Play" smart Hmm did i highlight the word "Play" i guess i did! |
| Re: Religious Conditioning And How It Is Done by Temolad: 4:42pm On Oct 20, 2016 |
Just passing though! |
| Re: Religious Conditioning And How It Is Done by CoolUsername: 6:41pm On Oct 20, 2016 |
Ranchhoddas: How much of a choice do you really get? Indoctrination, like I said can cause a person to hold deep beliefs in matters. This, coupled with the fact that most religious tenets are not to be questioned or changed, isn't exactly going to produce an open mind in that area. Isn't that what faith is all about? That's exactly why we see people trying to twist the words of their holy books in a bid to for them into reality. I'm not going to answer your accusation, it's baseless and unfounded. |
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