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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 1:42pm On Oct 21, 2016
Obvs Jose is a bonafide Chelsea legend and will get some applause...but I didn't think there would be true Chelsea fans anywhere who would be neutral in this game

I personally hate manyoo by default anyway, so as usual I want us to smash them this weekend. But a victory would be so much sweeter with Jose at the helm partly for the debacle of last season that was largely of his own making, but mostly because...well “When he decided to go to a direct competitor then love stories are over”

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donjazet(m): 1:47pm On Oct 21, 2016
Know you history
Jose Mourinho: The Jose way

He seems uniquely unqualified for the most glamorous position in English football. He shows no talent for drinking himself into the headlines. He has a discreet relationship with a married woman, his wife. He doesn't even own a sheepskin coat. He's handsome, rich and arrogant enough to be brought low by the tabloid press, but still his legend grows. Could defeat for his team today change all that?
Sunday 27 February 2005

This afternoon, at the Millennium Stadium in Cardiff, in the first major football final of the season, the television cameras will keep cutting away from the play to capture the smouldering reactions of a Portuguese man on the sidelines. Jose Mario dos Santos Mourinho Félix, manager of Chelsea, is the central figure in the most intriguing storyline of the soap opera that is British sport: can Roman Abramovich, the club's Russian owner, use his billions to transform the perennially fashionable but oft-failing Chelsea into the biggest club in the game? Mourinho is suddenly the most fascinating man in football. But if you didn't know he was a manager, you would think from his maturely handsome, semi-shaven appearance that he belonged not in a sports ground but in an under-lit European art-house film - part of the complicated love interest, perhaps, or the brooding detective with the quizzical half-smile. He really is a most unlikely representative of what used to be the sheepskin-coat-wearing class

This afternoon, at the Millennium Stadium in Cardiff, in the first major football final of the season, the television cameras will keep cutting away from the play to capture the smouldering reactions of a Portuguese man on the sidelines. Jose Mario dos Santos Mourinho Félix, manager of Chelsea, is the central figure in the most intriguing storyline of the soap opera that is British sport: can Roman Abramovich, the club's Russian owner, use his billions to transform the perennially fashionable but oft-failing Chelsea into the biggest club in the game? Mourinho is suddenly the most fascinating man in football. But if you didn't know he was a manager, you would think from his maturely handsome, semi-shaven appearance that he belonged not in a sports ground but in an under-lit European art-house film - part of the complicated love interest, perhaps, or the brooding detective with the quizzical half-smile. He really is a most unlikely representative of what used to be the sheepskin-coat-wearing classes.

The contradictions don't end there. In a game where most participants communicate only in clichés, he can be interesting in four languages. In a sport where reading books is a sign of deviancy, he is educated. In arenas where "Jesus Christ" is an oath, he is religious. And, in this laddish world, where a refusal to urinate in the street is regarded as a sign of undue sophistication, he is genuinely cultured.


And there's more. Happily married, with no hint of panting calls to FA secretaries or massages from anyone other than physiotherapists; abstemious, with no nightclub tabs that run into four figures, he is, at 42, also successful enough to be paid a basic salary of £5m a year, photogenic enough to be hired by American Express to front its advertising, a sufficiently mainstream celebrity to be impersonated by Alistair McGowan, and so articulate that his one-liners make Groucho Marx seem as tongue-tied as Harpo. "And to think," says one of his mentors, Sir Bobby Robson, a former England and Newcastle United manager, "he was just a schoolteacher when I met him."

The man who will begin to learn this afternoon if he can deliver success to Roman Abramovich's platinum-plated Chelsea was born in Setubal in 1963. His mother was from a clan that prospered under the right-wing dictatorship of Salazar; and his father, Félix, the son of a fisherman, was a professional footballer who duly went into club management. Jose grew up determined to be a player, but although he became a professional with his father's club, Rio Ave, it was soon apparent that he did not have the talent to prosper.

His mother enrolled him on a business course, but Jose had other ideas. After one day he switched to physical education, and so became the kind of school PE teacher that teenage girls' fantasies are made of. "Until he arrived no girls ever wanted to do PE, but suddenly nobody was asking for a doctor's sick note," a former pupil once breathlessly recalled. He married Tami (they started dating when she was 17 and now have two children), attended football courses, and became youth coach at Vitoria Setubal and assistant coach at Estrela da Amadora. It was hardly the big time. Then, in 1992, came his first break. Robson was appointed manager at Sporting Lisbon, and he wanted a local coach who spoke good English. Mourinho landed the job, and at Lisbon airport he met the man who was to help change his life. Robson appreciated Mourinho's translations, and when the Englishman moved on to Barcelona he took the young, Spanish-speaking coach with him. Some big city characters wondered who was this handsome unknown always following the famous manager, and there were even rumours (absurd to anyone who knows either man) that they were gay lovers.
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But it wasn't pillow talk that Mourinho shared with Robson, it was accurate analysis of opposing players. In addition, for he was liked by the Barcelona team and young enough to be one of them, he offered reliable readings of the men. In return, Mourinho learnt much from the older man, a process that continued under Robson's Dutch successor, Louis van Gaal. After three more years at Barcelona, Mourinho was ready to manage his own club. He went to Benfica, to Uniao de Leiria, and thence, in 2002 to Porto, where he found himself directly managing players of real quality for the first time. His team made a discovery, too. Their new manager brought a good deal of science to what had always been regarded as the art of coaching. At school, Mourinho was bored by literature, but did well at maths. He adored the recording and calculation of things, and for him that meant not just the game's tactics, but the psychology and organisation of players. Sudden, enormous, success followed - two league championships, one cup, the Uefa Cup and then, last year, the European Cup.

It was not only for this record that he was hired by Abramovich to transform the Russian's gold into silverware. It was for his smarts (when banned from the touchline once he equipped himself with a BlackBerry-like device, went into the stands, and with two assistants, sent a steady flow of instructions to the bench.) It was for his thorough preparations (he writes letters to his players setting out what he wants them to achieve, and has sent substitutes on to the pitch with diagrammatic notes for his team.) And it was for the self-belief he exudes through every pore. "I don't have to control Mr Abramovich," he has said, "He has to control me." This quotability - "A coach who sees only football is weak" - has made him a firm favourite with the notoriously fickle tabloids.

Abramovich expects delivery. And so far, so good. Chelsea, who have not won this country's league championship for 50 years, are now at the top of the table. They are one good game away from the European Cup semi-finals, and today they play Liverpool in the Carling Cup final. This will be Mourinho's first big trophy test. Last Sunday, Chelsea were knocked out of the FA Cup, and the verbal skirmishes he has engaged in recently are signs of the pressure he is under. He used the word 'cheat' after some argy-bargy in a game with Manchester United, refused to shake hands with Blackburn boss Mark Hughes, and an altercation in the Barcelona tunnel last Wednesday ended with him being kicked in the back, a still-ongoing dispute over Chelsea's complaint that the Spanish side's manager spoke illegally to the referee, and Mourinho's first taste of a back-page roasting. He has responded feistily; not for nothing was he once compared to George Clooney.

If he wins this afternoon, he'll be starring in one of British sport's occasional feel-good stories. But if he loses, he won't just look like the character in the moody European movie who gets pitched over the cliff by the man he thought was his friend - he'll be playing the part for real.


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/profiles/jose-mourinho-the-jose-way-485013.html
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donjazet(m): 1:55pm On Oct 21, 2016
Rewind to 2004
'The Special One' arrives at Chelsea
Ismail Vedat
June 6, 2013


Jose Mourinho arrived to Stamford Bridge with plenty of confidence © PA Photos
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The worst kept secret in football was revealed on Monday when it was confirmed that Jose Mourinho will return to Chelsea and the Premier League. When the Portuguese first arrived to Stamford Bridge though, he made quite an impression.

Roman Abramovich became the owner of Chelsea when he purchased the club in 2003, and the Russian had winning trophies firmly on his mind. However, with over £100 million spent on new players such as Hernan Crespo, Damien Duff and Juan Sebastian Veron, the trophy cabinet come the end of his first season was empty and did not go according to plan.

A new era at the Bridge equated to a new man required at the helm, so it was goodbye to Claudio Ranieri and hello to Jose Mourinho - the person Abramovich believed to be the one to bring success to West London and prove his expensive project worthwhile.

Mourinho had won the Champions League with FC Porto after they defeated Monaco in the final, and he departed the scene of the club's celebrations on the pitch early by taking off his winners' medal and heading straight down the tunnel.

There were reports long before Porto's European triumph that Mourinho had already put pen to paper at Chelsea, and the muted celebration was a sure sign that he was heading to the Premier League and the Blues.

It was a surprise not to see Mourinho enjoy his remarkable success given how ecstatically he celebrated, charging down the touchline, at Old Trafford against Manchester United, when Porto overcame the Red Devils in the last-16 of the competition.

Six trophies in over two-and-a-half years at Porto were enough for Abramovich to court Mourinho, and in June 2004 the Chelsea owner landed his man.


Jose's Chelsea roll of honour
Premier League - 2004/05, 2005/06
FA Cup - 2006/07
League Cup - 2004/05, 2006/07
Community Shield - 2005

And so, the time came to unveil Mourinho at Stamford Bridge. But rather than undergoing his press conference on the cautious side, Mourinho instead made a lasting impression at the advent of his Chelsea tenure.

"To give my best, to improve things and to create the football team in relation to my image and my football philosophy," was what Mourinho said on his plans at his new club.

Ranieri was liked by the Chelsea fans, but not so by Abramovich, who ruthlessly dismissed the popular Italian despite the Blues finishing second to the Arsenal "Invincibles" in the Premier League and reaching the semi-finals of the Champions League.

Abramovich craved trophies so regardless of the solid season Chelsea had it was not enough to keep Ranieri, who left with a parting shot at Mourinho, in charge for a fifth campaign.

Mourinho spoke of his predecessor in his press conference, and hit back at Ranieri's claims he could not survive as a Premier League manager.

"I heard that and I suggest if one of you is Mr Ranieri's friend or has his number you should call him and explain to him that for a team to win the European Cup it has to beat many teams from many countries," Mourinho said.

"I did not win the cup playing against 20 Portuguese teams. I played and beat a team from his own country, Italy, from your country and the one he was working in, England."

Many were keen to know what kind of man would be in the dugout at Chelsea. Many witnessed a glimpse of Mourinho's character from his antics at Old Trafford, but the snappy answers went a long way to conveying why he would turn out to be someone the fans would quickly adore.

A journalist posed the question: "What are your ambitions for the coming season?" to which Mourinho replied: "The biggest ambition I have is to win the first Premiership match on August 14."

Naturally, he was pressed on his other ambitions for the season, and everyone got an insight into who Abramovich had hired - especially those in the conference with the pleasure of a front row seat.

"The second ambition is to win the second Premiership match on August 21 and we will keep going like this."

Mourinho inherited a squad who were expected to dominate. Certainly with a significant amount of money spent on recruitments the requirements were high, and it would be down to the Portuguese to deliver and fill the silverware cupboard. No trophies almost certainly meant an early dismissal - and Ranieri being proven right.

"We have top players and, sorry if I'm arrogant, we have a top manager," Mourinho went on to say. "Please don't call me arrogant, but I'm European champion and I think I'm a special one."

'The Special One'. A tag which has stayed with Mourinho since day one when the words flew out of his mouth, and now everyone began to realise what kind of person Abramovich had taken on to control his Championship Manager-like side.

Following his blockbuster of a press conference, Mourinho applied pressure on himself to be successful and justify why Abramovich was paying him just over £4 million a year.

What happened next?
Mourinho fulfilled his ambition of winning his first and second Premier League matches, and went on to claim the title at the end of the season with Chelsea's first league triumph in 50 years thanks to a record tally of 95 points. The Blues also won the League Cup at the expense of Liverpool after extra-time in January as Mourinho thrived in his debut campaign.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 2:24pm On Oct 21, 2016
donjazet:
Neutral in this one

So if CHelsea plays Man Utd to determine the winner of the CL or will determine who win the league or relegate.

You will remain neutral?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 2:25pm On Oct 21, 2016
Nihilist:
Obvs Jose is a bonafide Chelsea legend and will get some applause...but I didn't think there would be true Chelsea fans anywhere who would be neutral in this game

I personally hate manyoo by default anyway, so as usual I want us to smash them this weekend. But a victory would be so much sweeter with Jose at the helm partly for the debacle of last season that was largely of his own making, but mostly because...well “When he decided to go to a direct competitor then love stories are over”

Like Pep facing Barca last week or like he did with Bayern 2 yrs ago and some Barca fans claiming they are neutral because they dont want to hurt Pep

Even players who owe their careers to him dont mind flogging his side on the pitch

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 2:30pm On Oct 21, 2016
nateevs:



I agree with you. By this, you mean Fabregas in front and Kante sitting. The problem I have with this, is that Fellaini and Herrera have had a full week's rest as well. And both will easily pocket Fab. Herrera did some fantastic work against Liverpool. It's easy to under-estimate him.

Over the last two games anyway since the 3-4-3, Matic has been sitting with Kante doing the running. I will expect that even if this wasn't the case, it will be for this game. Because as you quite rightly pointed out, Matic is not dynamic.

Even though I've been advocating for Fabregas to play before, I dont think he should start. Play Matic. Mou is coming with Fellaini and Pogba you need some extra steel in the middle also.

-------Azpi----Cahill ---Luiz
-Moses--Matic--Kante--Alonso
----Willian --Costa--Hazard

If the game is still in the balance till like 60th mins, you can bring in Fabregas for either Moses or Willian

Go back to 4231 with double pivot of Matic Kante and Fabregas plays as the 10
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lordfalcao(m): 2:40pm On Oct 21, 2016
donjazet:
Neutral in this one
go and become a Man u fan and stop boring us with your mourinho love story..

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 2:42pm On Oct 21, 2016
raumdeuter:


Even though I've been advocating for Fabregas to play before, I dont think he should start. Play Matic. Mou is coming with Fellaini and Pogba you need some extra steel in the middle also.

-------Azpi----Cahill ---Luiz
-Moses--Matic--Kante--Alonso
----Willian --Costa--Hazard

If the game is still in the balance till like 60th mins, you can bring in Fabregas for either Moses or Willian

Go back to 4231 with double pivot of Matic Kante and Fabregas plays as the 10

I don't think Willian is back from compassionate leave.

I would prefer to play Fab in this kind of game. Fab is a roaming playmaker and will be able to move around creating triangles all over the pitch.

Kante either sitting to recycle possesion from deep if the middle is choked or playing box-to-box if transitions on the wing are not possible.

We need a playmaker in that middle quite badly. Matic is supposed to be the playmaker out of that pair but the guy no dey ever show for pass, and his passing ability doesn't inspire that much confidence in me.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 2:52pm On Oct 21, 2016
Nihilist:
I don't think Willian is back from compassionate leave.

I would prefer to play Fab in this kind of game. Fab is a roaming playmaker and will be able to move around creating triangles all over the pitch.
Kante either sitting to recycle possession from deep if the middle is choked or playing box-to-box if transitions on the wing are not possible.

We need a playmaker in that middle quite badly. Matic is supposed to be the playmaker out of that pair but the guy no dey ever show for pass, and his passing ability doesn't inspire that much confidence in me.

I don't like Matic much either but Fellaini and Pogba in the middle those are 2 guys over 6ft3, And Zlatan, Rashford, Baily and Smalling Thats so much height in that team, There needs to be an extra non vertically challenged player in the team especially in the middle.

I don't see how Fabregas will fit into Conte 3-4-3 vs a team like Man Utd as he doesn't have the legs to run the right wing
Kante is awesome but he will struggle with vs Pogba and Fellaini combo physicality. Given that Cahill will have his hands full with ZLatan physicality

If not Willian maybe Moses.

I like that Fabregas being another creative outlet will reduce the attention on Hazard but I just don't know where to fit in from the start that wont compromise midfield solidity? And I doubt this is the game to change tactics from 343
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 3:03pm On Oct 21, 2016
raumdeuter:


I don't like Matic much either but Fellaini and Pogba in the middle those are 2 guys over 6ft3, And Zlatan, Rashford, Baily and Smalling Thats so much height in that team, There needs to be an extra non vertically challenged player in the team especially in the middle.

I don't see how Fabregas will fit into Conte 3-4-3 vs a team like Man Utd as he doesn't have the legs to run the right wing
Kante is awesome but he will struggle with vs Pogba and Fellaini combo physicality. Given that Cahill will have his hands full with ZLatan physicality

If not Willian maybe Moses.

I like that Fabregas being another creative outlet will reduce the attention on Hazard but I just don't know where to fit in from the start that wont compromise midfield solidity? And I doubt this is the game to change tactics from 343

Didn't coutinho out jump fellaini in an arieal duel this match gone? cheesy

I get your point though. Corners could potentially be deadly especially with that Blind's delivery so I agree that we need some height and strength in there.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donjazet(m): 3:16pm On Oct 21, 2016
raumdeuter:


So if CHelsea plays Man Utd to determine the winner of the CL or will determine who win the league or relegate.

You will remain neutral?
Of course no individual is greater than the club. I will definitely support Chelsea, Considering the very high stakes. But I would really like the die hard Ronaldo Man United fans to sincerely tell me how they felt when Madrid played against them.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 3:19pm On Oct 21, 2016
donjazet:

Of course no individual is greater than the club. I will definitely support Chelsea, Considering the very high stakes. But I would really like the die hard Ronaldo Man United fans to sincerely tell me how they felt when Madrid played against them.


TBH, Ronaldo is why I like Real Madrid...A club is the utmost priority no matter what...We support the club, it's 11 players on the pitch not a superstar that determines results.

Ask Arsenal fans how they felt after Robin Van Persie...If you can't put your team first then you just made of plastic.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donjazet(m): 3:31pm On Oct 21, 2016
Wingback:



TBH, Ronaldo is why I like Real Madrid...A club is the utmost priority no matter what...We support the club, it's 11 players on the pitch not a superstar that determines results.

Ask Arsenal fans how they felt after Robin Van Persie...If you can't put your team first then you just made of plastic.
OK. Maybe my context was wrong about manu fans in the sense that they were already manu fans before Ronaldo came. But what about the Madrid fans who became Madrid fans because of Ronaldo but have since got to know the club and love the club and it's history. How will they feel if Ronaldo leaves for Barça? Not out of spite for Madrid but the purpose of maintaining relevance in the game.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donjazet(m): 3:35pm On Oct 21, 2016
Chelsea 2004/05 under Jose Mourinho were youngest average Premier League winners

Revealed: Mourinho, not Ferguson, had Premier League's youngest title winners
If Manchester United fans are concerned about Jose Mourinho’s willingness to use young players, these stats may be of some comfort.

One major question mark hanging over the former Chelsea boss’ head ahead of taking the job at Old Trafford was over his record in that department, and whether or not he could change his ways to respect United’s traditions.
However, it may surprise some to see that his 2004/05 title-winning side had the youngest average age of any champions in the Premier League era.

Ages of major Chelsea stars at start of 04/05
23 – John Terry, Tiago
22 – Petr Cech, Joe Cole
20 – Arjen Robben
19 – Glen Johnson, Robert Huth
Narrowly ahead of Manchester United’s 1995/96 team – you know, the one that prompted Alan Hansen to warn United they ‘can’t win anything with kids’ – that Blues squad had an average age of 24 years and three months.

United’s average age in ’96 was 25, so Mourinho may well be the ideal heir to Sir Alex Ferguson, despite his reputation as only trusting big-name signings and experienced players.
That Chelsea side was built around the likes of Petr Cech and John Terry, who were 22 and 23 respectively at the start of that campaign, and very much became the world class players they are known as today under Mourinho’s expert guidance.

Read more: http://metro.co.uk/2016/05/28/chelsea-200405-under-jose-mourinho-were-youngest-average-premier-league-winners-5910733/#ixzz4NjLE4rhM

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by SIRcumalot: 3:38pm On Oct 21, 2016
donjazet:

Of course no individual is greater than the club. I will definitely support Chelsea, Considering the very high stakes. But I would really like the die hard Ronaldo Man United fans to sincerely tell me how they felt when Madrid played against them.
God punish Madrid and Ronaldo.
Don't mind this ninja,remain neutral.
You're a loyal man.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 3:42pm On Oct 21, 2016
donjazet:

I might be the most outspoken loyalist of Jose but I am certainly not alone in my stance of being neutral on Sunday.

What you mean neutral?

Chelsea till we die. Phuck Manure and whoever their manager is.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 3:45pm On Oct 21, 2016
SIRcumalot:

God punish Madrid and Ronaldo.
Don't mind this ninja,remain neutral.
You're a loyal man.



You have been drinking too much cûm, lay off that gay shìt.



Donjazet...I guess they will cease watching soccer once he hangs up his boot?


Clubs were existing before Ronaldo, I still maintain my stance, Soccer is an 11 man game, you are either with your club or against it, liking a single player makes you plastic...Finale.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donjazet(m): 4:01pm On Oct 21, 2016
[size=14pt]Jose Mourinho's return to Chelsea is like bumping into an ex-girlfriend you haven't got over... what makes him great when he is yours is what gets under your skin when he isn't[/size]
pt]By Callum West For Mailonline
[b]Jose Mourinho and Manchester United face Chelsea at Stamford Bridge
He is making his first return to the club since being sacked late last year
Mourinho turned Chelsea from a good cup team into one which won titles
His trophy successes at Inter Milan and Real Madrid gave me a warm glow
But he is now the enemy at United and I'll be glad when the game is over.

It's not unusual for Manchester United to be amongst the first home fixtures I look for when they're announced in July.

United may not be Chelsea's biggest rivals - derbies against Tottenham, Arsenal and West Ham have always been games that whet the appetite - while traditionally Leeds, and more recently Liverpool, have been our foremost northern adversaries.
But make no mistake, they're a team we have always relished getting one over.

Indeed, for large parts of the Premier League era the match has been crucial in the title race. A fixture the season can hang on.
There have been many great victories over them in my 25 years of going to Stamford Bridge, from Gavin Peacock scoring against the run of play, through Jody Morris' trumpet celebration in a 5-0 mauling, to Joe Cole's title-sealing solo effort. It is also a fixture we have historically done well in.

However, it was with a sense of dread this year that I looked for United at home. I've never felt more trepidation about a Chelsea vs Manchester United game than I have for Sunday's clash.
It is a feeling that transcends what might happen on the pitch, just as Jose Mourinho's return transcends the positive/negative reception debate of a former hero returning as a foe.
I'll lay my cards on the table: I loved Jose Mourinho, and still have feelings of adoration for the man who turned the Chelsea I had grown up with - a great cup side but perennial nearly men when it came to the very top honours - into a side that won titles at a canter.
A man who has won three of the club's five league titles and three of the four in living memory for many.
The man who beat the badge on his chest at Anfield, who told us to keep our chins up at the Emirates and memorably instructed his entire squad to throw their shirts into the crowd following a hard-fought evening victory at Ewood Park en route to our first title in 50 years in 2005.
Games: 321
Won: 204
Drawn: 69
Lost: 48

Honours: Premier League (2004-05, 2005-06, 2014-15), FA Cup (2007), League Cup (2005, 2007, 2015), Community Shield (2005)
However, I can also see the potential for things to go sour, for Mourinho to antagonise the crowd, Conte or the players if it is for his benefit.

What makes him great when he is yours is exactly what gets under your skin when he isn't, and for the first time since he strolled into Stamford Bridge in 2004 he isn't ours.
At Inter Milan and Real Madrid I was happy to see him succeed, his treble with the former and title with the latter gave me the kind of warm glow you get when you hear of the achievements of a distant relative.
He was managing another team in another country and aside from two games as Inter Milan manager he was never in direct competition with Chelsea. While we had a fine side who won the domestic double that season, over the two games Inter were on a different level to us.
However, that all changed when he became Manchester United manager. Now he is in direct competition with us. Our success and his failure, and vice versa, are dependent on one another.

When a well-loved player or manager leaves a club for another within the same country it is normally under one of three scenarios.
Chelsea fans were pleased to see Mourinho lift the Champions League with Inter Milan in 2010
It can be towards the end of their career and they are going to play at a significantly lower level and they will be given a hero's welcome should they return - much like when Kerry Dixon played against Chelsea for Luton at Wembley.
Or they make an aspirational move to a more successful club and whilst you're disappointed they've gone, you don't begrudge them the move. This doesn't really happen at Chelsea any more but if you go back nearly 40 years this would be like Ray Wilkins' move to Manchester United.
Or, lastly, they're akin to Judas and you despise them like Gordon Durie.

Mourinho doesn't even nearly fit into any of these. His return seems to me like bumping into an ex-girlfriend you haven't really got over. There's plenty of happy memories but something raw and a lingering sense of what could have been.

I could never give a man who has given me so many happy memories a bad reception, but in a world where football has become increasingly black and white, where you are either loved or loathed and nuance is in short supply, in what box do you put Chelsea and Mourinho?

I'm not really sure, and I'll be happy when it's all over.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3859082/Jose-Mourinho-s-return-Chelsea-like-bumping-ex-girlfriend-haven-t-got-over.html

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donjazet(m): 4:08pm On Oct 21, 2016
When I said there are many Chelsea fans who maybe neutral on Sunday, some felt I was just talking for talks sake. That's a dailymail journalist.

It's almost as if dailymail plagiarised my post and pictures.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lordfalcao(m): 4:21pm On Oct 21, 2016
donjazet:
When I said there are many Chelsea fans who maybe neutral on Sunday, some felt I was just talking for talks sake. That's a dailymail journalist.

It's almost as if dailymail plagiarised my post and pictures.
daily mail have never said anything good. The daily mail journalist is the mouth of his own, not ours. Like mourinho said the love is over. Same as him come Sunday all I want is full trashing.

We support Chelsea not mourinho, in the pitch we are enemies outside we can check hands.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nateevs(m): 4:22pm On Oct 21, 2016
Don Jazzy

Which one be neutral? Abeg bone that tin o.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc2: 4:45pm On Oct 21, 2016
Why would a Chelsea fan be neutral because an ex manager is coming to Stamford bridge? I bow for this Don Jazzy o cheesy

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by 007author(m): 4:56pm On Oct 21, 2016
donjazet:
When I said there are many Chelsea fans who maybe neutral on Sunday, some felt I was just talking for talks sake. That's a dailymail journalist.

It's almost as if dailymail plagiarised my post and pictures.
neutral ko..natural ni..real chelsea fans will definitely support chelsea.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Elnino4ladies: 4:59pm On Oct 21, 2016
afrodoc2:
Why would a Chelsea fan be neutral because an ex manager is coming to Stamford bridge? I bow for this Don Jazzy o cheesy


I see no sense in it
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Kolade354(m): 5:06pm On Oct 21, 2016
Donjazet is pissing me off : angry sad
I don't want to see that man picture on this thread.
I dislike that interpreter.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by tobiboss(m): 5:20pm On Oct 21, 2016
Fuçk mourinho, fuçk man u, I hope we bash em silly on Sunday
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nateevs(m): 5:25pm On Oct 21, 2016
Don't mind Don Jazzy. He's one of those fans who wouldn't admit it but they really love Jose much more than they love Chelsea.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 5:33pm On Oct 21, 2016
Kolade354:
Donjazet is pissing me off : angry sad
I don't want to see that man picture on this thread.
I dislike that interpreter.

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by SailorXY: 5:36pm On Oct 21, 2016
All the fück this fûck that no mean say better bash no go shelé here on Sunday evening grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 5:36pm On Oct 21, 2016
nateevs:
Don't mind Don Jazzy. He's one of those fans who wouldn't admit it but they really love Jose much more than they love Chelsea.

LOL when he was yarning all that yarns last week I was just laughing.

That nigga ain't no Chelsea fan. He's a Jose fan.

There's nothing wrong with being a die-hard Jose fan. There's just no need to pretend to be a Chelsea fan.

I've never heard of a Chelsea fan who would claim to be neutral in a Chelsea vs Manyoo fixture of all games.

So if Jose moves to Arsenal, Spurs, Fulham, QPR or even Brentford tommorow, he will still claim neutral? cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Emaprince: 5:39pm On Oct 21, 2016
Na wa o.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 5:43pm On Oct 21, 2016
I like Mourinho, but I will not be happy tomorrow if we don't win, because I want us to win the league. At worst, Second position. Mou, can sort himself out.
Moreover, I would like conte to succeed at Chelsea with his team playing the way Italy played at the euros.

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