Diademk07:


We were highly linked with Kante before the season ended, especially after Van gaal vetoed Renato's move but as soon as Van gaal got sacked and Mourinho came in, all those Kante's news became subdued and it was all about Pogba..

The fact that Van gaal signed Morgan who's a similar player to Kante but quite average on the ball gives me the confidence he would likely go for a better ball playing one in Kante, considering the way he constantly hammered on the need for pace in the midfield and the fact that he wanted to sign Renato, another similar player until the last minute when he stopped the interest.

It wasn't a surprise that most news outlets linked us with Kante while Van gaal was still at United not until Mourinho came in and all the Kante news got quashed except for the time Kante deal with Chelsea was already in process and Mourinho wanted to hijack it. Even Kante said his deal was almost done with Chelsea at the time Mourinho gave him a call.

AdisaOwala:


Thought-processes like this would continue to solidify your position as the thread's (and section's) resident lunatic

elrony:
Diademk07 just a piece of advice bro, if you don't have concrete piece for any argument stop chipping in your premature premonitions.

It makes the whole point you tryna make less credible.

Diademk07:


What a dumbass who doesn't know we often played with a goalscoring SS and not a no 10 during the period. Is Herrera now a SS? Pray tell, how many goal did the oaf score?

Stop disturbing my mention with your foolishness!

tess1:


I'm not surprised at this response of yours because you are so dumb to reason. I'll not go into that argument with you.

Let me give you a simpler one maybe your dumb brain will be able to process this.

In 2013/14 season, why did Ribery, Muller and Lahm had more assist in Bayern? Who played as the number 10 and how many assists did that person have?

Also, why did Blaszczykowski have higher assists than your Kagawa in 2010/11 season?



Can you now see that you are the most idiotic person on this thread. If not, you wouldn't have typed that when you actually were the one who first quoted me to start all these.

Diademk07:


I already chimed in rumour sources that confirmed our interest in Kante while Van gaal was here. Only a fool would expect anything other than that when the said man was sacked before the transfer window even opened.

Diademk07:


You're stinking the whole place with your craziness.

The question is can Fabregas play great in the no 10 role as well as the attacking central midfield, just as Kagawa? But all you did is spouting irrelevant shite!

Let me also remind you that Kagawa left for first team football seeing that the new big money signing, Mata was the preferred choice in his role.

elrony:


I understand what you trying to say... buh something like "because van Gaal signed Morgan,means he's defo gotta sign Kante"... truly holds no water. That's the point I was hoping you'd see.

tess1:


Your thinking faculty is so low as usual. You can't even comprehend that.

That's to back up my point that the assist a number gets depends on the quality if the striker and the way the team is set up to play. Meaning that it is possible for a person who played as striker or inverted wingers or wingers to have more assists than the person who played as a number 10 in any team set up.

Diademk07:


He was dropped after 5/6 games, can you hear yourself?

Did you realise how many games the likes of Depay, Rojo, Schneiderlin played in spite of their average display before they were dropped?

If we hadn't been ravaged with Carrick and Fellaini injuries, he would have played little and it's no coincidence he found himself on the bench as soon as both players were fit. Did you think a Van gaal signing would have been quickly relegated to the bench by players just returning from injuries after few average early start? Continue in your delusion.

And regardless of whether he played Willian, Mikel or Pedro, the truth is they were hijacked by Mourinho. Furthermore, it was Willian who forced his way into Mourinho line-ups and not the other way round.

tess1:


Vomitting rubbish again.

I said he got dropped but you said no. What's the meaning of getting dropped from a team? It simply means you've been selected for some games before you're no longer selected. It may be 1, 2, 3 games or more.

Thank God that Herrera and LVG were new to the club at that time. He bought him, played him in the first 6 or so games when he wasn't injured and dropped him because he felt that he doesn't fit into his team.

I can't help you beyond this if English Language is your problem.

That was how you said that Kagawa have two best positions. If you have problem with English Language, maybe you should be communicating in your local language.

Diademk07:

You didn't realise that Pep constantly deployed a 3-man midfield set up or the fact that Muller was used as SS at times?

If you don't know jack, just shut up! You're stinking the whole place with your stupidity and wasting my time!

Diademk07:


I said he wasn't a factor in Van gaal's plan which was solidified by the fact that the average Fellaini replaced him as soon as he came back from injury after just 5 games. Care to tell me any Van gaal's signings that was showed such? Depay, Morgan and Rojo continued to play longer than that before they were benched.

Kagawa is an attacking midfielder, capable of playing as a 10 or in the attacking midfield role, similar to Fabregas/De bryune. You having problem with it shows you're just too stupid to grasp it!

Diademk07:


I said he wasn't a factor in Van gaal's plan which was solidified by the fact that the average Fellaini replaced him as soon as he came back from injury after just 5 games. Care to tell me any Van gaal's signings that was showed such? Depay, Morgan and Rojo continued to play longer than that before they were benched.

Kagawa is an attacking midfielder, capable of playing as a 10 or in the attacking midfield role, similar to Fabregas/De bryune. You having problem with it shows you're just too stupid to grasp it!

Diademk07:


Herrera didn't get dropped he wasn't even a factor in Van gaal team. Action speaks louder than voice.

His action and Moyes's action showed that Herrera was the board decision. Same thing happened between Pep and Gotze.

The reality is the board gave Mourinho the power and backed him to bring the players he wanted but Kante was never in his plan not until he saw the imminent Chelsea deal with Kante. That's who Mourinho is. The same man hijacked Willian from Spurs at the last minute. Same with Mikel and Pedro but his skimming sneaky move was too late with Kante.

tess1:


Stop all these trash. Bring me your proofs that:

1. That Herrera's deal was almost done before Moyes was sacked. For now, I'll rather believe what Herrera said.

2. That your god LVG was actually interested in Kante. How can the board not be interested in a player that LVG and Mourinho wanted?

Herrera didn't go straight into his team or he got dropped the same way Scheinderlin and Memphis got dropped. Maybe he didn't sign the two as well.

tess1:


Who said this? This is just a simple sentence o.



As a response to this

quote author=tess1 post=50475350]

Stop all these trash. Bring me your proofs that:

1. That Herrera's deal was almost done before Moyes was sacked. For now, I'll rather believe what Herrera said.

2. That your god LVG was actually interested in Kante. How can the board not be interested in a player that LVG and Mourinho wanted?

Herrera didn't go straight into his team or he got dropped the same way Scheinderlin and Memphis got dropped. Maybe he didn't sign the two as well.

Were you drunk when you typed that or was it that you didn't understand the sentence you typed?

Whichever, I give up on you. I'm saving you from making more stupid and idiotic blunders.

tess1:


Lol! You are not intelligent at all. You think you are smart, whereas you are too dull. What about other players mentioned?

Are you now telling me that Ribery and Lahm also played as the SS as you've claimed?

Also, why did Ribery have the highest assists in the previous season? Did he also play as a SS or as the number 10?

Diademk07:
[b]Also, don't forget we almost signed Arturo Vida, a pacey midfielder while Van gaal was still at United but his knee injuries stopped the whole move. [/b]There was also Renato whom Van gaal got interested in but later stopped his interest due to the large fees demanded by Benfica and subsequently, we had various news outlet linking us with Kante before Van gaal was sacked.

I'm quite sure we would have been Kante's second choice immediately after Arsenal snubbed him and he would have been here if Van gaal was still here whereas Mourinho wasted months chasing Pogba until he realised Kante's deal with Chelsea was almost done and he would likely strengthen Chelsea team hence, he wanted to hijack it.

eph12:

Was it Vidal? I think it was another player, plays in Roma. Trying to remember his name

Funlordjnr:




Players ‘stunned’ by‘distant’ Mourinho methods:




Manchester United players have been left
‘stunned’ by Jose Mourinho’s ‘hands-off’
approach at Old Trafford. Mourinho was appointed manager in the summer, replacing Louis van Gaal and signing a three-year contract. It is the Portuguese’s first job since being sacked as Chelsea boss in December, and after a promising start at Old Trafford, things have quickly turned sour. The club are seventh in the Premier League, six points behind Manchester City, Arsenal and Liverpool at the top of the table, and succumbed to a humbling 4-0 defeat against Mourinho’s former employers Chelsea on Sunday.





The news only gets worse for the United
manager, as Paul Hirst of The Times is now
reporting that the players are ‘stunned’ by
the manager’s methods in training. According to Hirst, ‘some members of the United squad’ are ‘surprised’ that Mourinho often leaves assistant Rui Faria in charge of training. He writes: ‘According to a source close to a senior
United player, Mourinho cuts a distant figure, sometimes leaving his assistant, Rui Faria, to conduct training sessions while he watches from a distance or works in his office.




‘The former Chelsea manager will, according to the source, come out and instruct his players at the start of the session before disappearing to his desk. On some occasions he does not return, leaving the session in Faria’s hands. ‘It represents a change in practice from his time at Chelsea, where he was
hands-on in training sessions. Mourinho’s cold approach to his players in one-to-one situations has also disappointed some United players. Some of them were expecting Mourinho to take a keen personal interest in them, but he has often cut himself off from the rest of the squad.’




www.football365.com









So is this why they lost 4-0? Some of these players must be women in disguise....very soon they would ask why mourinho is not smooching or banging them also!




"Personal interest" my ass........Nonsense!

Dont mind those overpaid guys, always looking for someone to blame..... Was it Mou's fault that we conceded within 30 secs of the game ... I know fully well that Pogba should have played the DM position alongside Schneidelin or Carrick while Mata plays the No10 role (Lingard shouldn't have started anyway) but that still shouldn't be an excuse for such a poor start. Who do they want as Coach since no one's good enough! Or just alarming pay raise for doing nothing!... I think its time to start giving out pay cuts so that their senses come back.. smh

GloryIsaac:



Dont mind those overpaid guys, always looking for someone to blame..... Was it Mou's fault that we conceded within 30 secs of the game ... I know fully well that Pogba should have played the DM position alongside Schneidelin or Carrick while Mata plays the No10 role (Lingard shouldn't have started anyway) but that still shouldn't be an excuse for such an poor start. Who do they want as Coach since no one's good enough! Or just alarming pay raise for doing nothing!... I think its time to start giving out pay cuts so that their senses come back.. smh

Lincolnn2:
This Tess1 and Diademk07 argument/back and forth, reminds me of Coogar and Elampiro 'no hold-barred, brandish all the stars, I-can't-be-defeated,' non-ending duels.




SMH.

Wingback:



Coogar and elamps arguments had stats and decent arguments, this one just pulls bullshit_ out of his arsehole...like a senile old man, "Rumour sources, they said, he was interested,.van gaal said, He had knee injuries"...MTCHEEWW

Danhumprey:
How many recognize these three players?