DeepSight:


This is pure gibberish.

You are talking unrefined shi't.

Nothing here is of any use: if anything you have just affirmed exactly what I said earlier: to wit: saying what God cannot be, is already defining God. I said that earlier, perhaps you did not read it. And yet you defined what God cannot be in your revert to Joshthefirst.

Rather than waiting for praise-singers to assist you before you coyly come about to say "thank you" to them, why don't you just stop menstruating already and man up to the real points? ? ?

You are a clown.

DeepSight:


Oh not at all. I actually regard the generality of women as superior beings to the generality of men.

Saying something is girly is not chauvinism. To read romance novels, or wear flowers is girly. To play around outdoors in the mud is boyish. Neither is a discriminatory statement. I could say an adult is behaving like a little boy or little girl. That is not sexist.

Please do not taint me with the brush of misogyny as I am anything but, infact I strongly resent misogynists.

DeepSight:



Rather than waiting for praise-singers to assist you before you coyly come about to say "thank you" to them, why don't you just stop menstruating already and man up to the real points? ? ?

You are a clown.

plaetton:


Mock! Mock!

" Who is there ? "

Deepsight.

" Deepsight Who ? "

Deepsight Depardo.

" Deepsight Depardo from where ? "

Deepsight Depardo, the Nairaland Town Jester.

" Oh, it's you. I should have known."

PastorAIO:


Thank you for the insults. Perhaps you ought to read the post one more time, and then again, one more once. ruminate on it. In fact sleep on it, and then answer tomorrow morning.
Bless you.

JackBizzle:




Ah....the word salad.

SALADIFIED!

DeepSight:


I have much better things to sleep on, thank you sir.
And please do not become sanctimonious about any "insults". You have called me an id.iot many times and also recently too: I am not sure you saw me sulking about that.

Man up.

PastorAIO:


But you didn't thank me. Why? Didn't you like the insults? Did they pain you? Pele.

I've laid out my points for even the hard of learning to understand, if you like address them, if you like don't.

DeepSight:




You have not laid down any sensible points and no I am not hard of learning, you imbecilic t.wat. Only fellow re.tards and persons without reasoning faculties applaud your idiotically laid out non starters.

DeepSight:


I do not even mind of one disputes it: in fact debate is the life of the party: what I mind is someone saying that everyone should just shut up and keep quiet as nothing can ever be known. . . .

wiegraf:


I do see where you're coming from, but don't you think you're giving mixed messages? You say a statement cannot be argued against logically, yet it can be debated?

JackBizzle:
Okay.....Deepsight, since you are enjoying the show.....I would like for you to answer some questions that I have been dying to ask you from day 1.


1) As a deist, you are not much different from atheists asper the Nigerian mentality but then, why do you go out of your way to distance yourself from atheists?

2) What if you are wrong? What if your deistic God is just science fiction? Do you think any atheist here on nairaland is capable of convincing you that such is the truth?


3) Why the big grammar? I'm sure that you have travelled to either the UK or US or Canada. English speaking people do not care about big words....it is a Nigerian mentality that pushes people to use unnecessary big words.....the oyibo white man focuses on understanding rather that verbose flowery epistles.

JackBizzle:


PastorAIO, you might want to also answer the bold since you have known baba Deepardo for a long time. You know about the salad being the word and the word being the salad!

JackBizzle:


3) Why the big grammar? I'm sure that you have travelled to either the UK or US or Canada. English speaking people do not care about big words....it is a Nigerian mentality that pushes people to use unnecessary big words.....the oyibo white man focuses on understanding rather that verbose flowery epistles.

KingEbukasBlog:


You come off as shallow whenever you complain about the use of high-flown language.

PastorAIO:


it's just style over substance, though it doesn't bother me as much as it bothers others. What bothers me is the absolute lack of substance in his post rather than the excessively flowery style.

Others are quite verbose but through that you can still get to grasp some points that they are making.

Not so with this fellow.

KingEbukasBlog:


You come off as shallow whenever you complain about the use of high-flown language.

JackBizzle:
Okay.....Deepsight, since you are enjoying the show.....I would like for you to answer some questions that I have been dying to ask you from day 1.


1) As a deist, you are not much different from atheists asper the Nigerian mentality but then, why do you go out of your way to distance yourself from atheists?

2) What if you are wrong? What if your deistic God is just science fiction? Do you think any atheist here on nairaland is capable of convincing you that such is the truth?

3) Why the big grammar? I'm sure that you have travelled to either the UK or US or Canada. English speaking people do not care about big words....it is a Nigerian mentality that pushes people to use unnecessary big words.....the oyibo white man focuses on understanding rather that verbose flowery epistles.

hopefulLandlord:


you're so so intelligent that you can't see that you've been disgracing yourself on this thread; I'm simply tryna save a mature man like you from further embarrassment

I'm out

PastorAIO:
The problem is that some people associate hi4lutin' language with depth. That in itself is a sure sign of shallowness.

DeepSight:


What a sorry fellow you are.

DeepSight:


Atheism is illogical. The plain truth is that whatever one calls what is behind this reality, something is behind it. You may give it any name but it is not absurd to call it God.

JackBizzle:




I find the other parts of your posts satisfactory, except for this part that I quoted.


And what if the thing behind this reality is just as frail as us? Why then should we call it "god"?

Please, google "westworld".


Your thinking is flawed

JackBizzle:




I find the other parts of your posts satisfactory, except for this part that I quoted.


And what if the thing behind this reality is just as frail as us? Why then should we call it "god"?

Please, google "westworld".


Your thinking is flawed

DeepSight:


Well personally I believe that this world is a simulated reality and your body is the virtual reality visor and tool that you wear in this reality. Thus whatever is behind this reality may be a bunch of lab scientists on the other side once the visor is taken off. It may even be a casino. whatever. But I was referring to whatever is the ultimate source of any finite reality whatsoever. An ultimate reality.

PastorAIO:


How are you sure that the body is the 'visor'? Is the body and your experience of it not a part of the 'simulated reality'? Everything in this so called 'simulated reality' including our body, AND our sense of individuality, distinct person is subject to change. Thus 'taking of' the 'visor'/body has just as much effect on our experience as taking off our underwear. Why should you trust that what ever it is you see on after death is an ultimate reality? Why shouldn't the 'simulated reality' continue?

Furthermore, people don't have to die to get a sense of experiencing a deeper substrate to reality.

And a part of the mystical experiences that people have is a sense of identity not confined to the body but inclusive of the entire universe. A sense that I AM the entire universe.

PastorAIO:


How are you sure that the body is the 'visor'? Is the body and your experience of it not a part of the 'simulated reality'? Everything in this so called 'simulated reality' including our body, AND our sense of individuality, distinct person is subject to change. Thus 'taking of' the 'visor'/body has just as much effect on our experience as taking off our underwear. Why should you trust that what ever it is you see on after death is an ultimate reality? Why shouldn't the 'simulated reality' continue?

Furthermore, people don't have to die to get a sense of experiencing a deeper substrate to reality.

And a part of the mystical experiences that people have is a sense of identity not confined to the body but inclusive of the entire universe. A sense that I AM the entire universe.

plaetton:
The very Pulse of the universe reverberates through every single atom.
Therefore, the sense of individuality , the you, as Deepsight puts it, is simply the sum of experiences.

PastorAIO:



Thank you. Perhaps my position may be better understood by those with learning difficulties if I stated it like this.

Superficially It appears like I'm saying that ' You can't say God XYZ'. But those that are gifted with incisive discernment will realise that I'm saying that 'God is just as much NOT-XYZ as he is XYZ'. Subsequently what is the point of saying 'God is XYZ'.
Terming and naming things doesn't just tell us what they are, they also tell us what they are not. That is the whole meaning of the word 'term'. A Term is something that has limits. A term could be a limited span of time. Or a term could refer to an object with boundaries and limits such as a shoe box. A shoe box is not also everything that is NOT a shoe box.

Language, words, and terms, are used and have evolved precisely to communicate facts about objects that have limits. They refer to terms. God is not a term. Yet one can say he also is a term. Thus we have paradox. Paradox for me is just where Logic and human reasoning meets ultimate realities.

Ultimately we are talking about where all dichotomies, either or, this or that, here or there, now or then, etc etc etc break down and are no longer workable.