Bellhod:

You will find out the truth soon , no need to discredit "Horus" he is closest to the truth than all of you. Ask yourself the basic why questions. The simple reason for everything you have ever doubted or questioned its there. Your mind must be open and clear for Mental & Spiritual reasoning to receive the answers. Lets test this out! There's no particular order of meaning if you can't understand , Stay away from this topic that will develop.

In as much as horus might be close to the truth, is it this truth that turned him into a racist He has a racist agenda which beclouds his objectivity when discussing issues.

KunleOshob:

In as much as horus might be close to the truth, is it this truth that turned him into a racist He has a racist agenda which beclouds his objectivity when discussing issues.

Where is the racism?. Bring your proofs. The agenda here is FACTS, not racism, you are just not yet ready to know all the Facts. The Paleman (Caucasian) wants you to think that he is the original man so that he can be superior to you. Through his educational system and the media. The Paleman is able to perpetuate that superior image of himself by disguising it as history. Yet, we know that his-story is just that, his-lie (as in “told a story”). This is why when Africans who realize that they have been lied to for the past 400-plus years, begin to speak about the true African science and history  the Paleman and his followers calls us racists.

@Horus
But even western education acknowledges that the first men came out of Africa, east africa to be precise. There is even DNA evidence to support this. The west as never claimed to be the source of creation even the western religion christianity which they brought to us originated from the middle east which as closer historical links to Africa than the west. I know it is a good feeling to feel that our ancestors were superior to theirs but the truth is that we are all one and the same genetically and we are all descended from the same source. However we must admit that somewhere along the line the cuacasians became more developed than their Negroid counterparts even though they descended from them. It is my understanding that they developed ahead of us becuase of the challenges they faced in their environment which made them to constantly look for better ways to live unlike we Africans that were resident in a very comfortable part of the earth and we didn't need to stress ourselves thus living us in our comfort zone. That aside i believe by nature, the cuacasians are more inquisitive than us hence their penchance for research which leads to development and the other hands we Africans are more supersticious and instead of researching what we don't understand we explain everything away to be supernatural.

It is a genetically proven fact that caucasians and mongoloids are descendants of Negroids and that makes us the alpha race but then agaiin does that make us more superior? I think not.

@KunleOshob

I know it is a good feeling to feel that our ancestors were superior to theirs

1- When did I said that our ancestors are superior?
2- Why talking about african culture and science or the annunagis is considered as racism and hatred by you?

Horus:

@KunleOshob
1- When did I said that our ancestors are superior?

I never said you said our ancestors are superior

2- Why talking about african culture and science or the annunagis is considered as racism and hatred by you?

I do not consider talking about the topic racism, however in a lot of your posts you display a lot of dislike for the caucasian race, even in your earlier post today you still referred to them as "paleman" which is a derigatory term.

KunleOshob:

I never said you said our ancestors are superior
I do not consider talking about the topic racism, however in a lot of your posts you display a lot of dislike for the caucasian race, even in your earlier post today you still referred to them as "paleman" which is a derigatory term.

I just quoted what YOU said (below), your own words.

then again does that make us more superior? I think not.

I have a dislike for belief, I like Facts, if you dont like the word "paleman" or if you consider it derigatory, so what?
Their skin is pale, this is a Fact. I am not here to please anybody, I am here to give Facts. If their skin is pale, this just mean that they have a pale skin, so what?. Fact is Fact.

True talk.

Horus:

I just quoted what YOU said (below), your own words.
I have a dislike for belief, I like Facts, if you dont like the word "paleman" or if you consider it derigatory, so what?
Their skin is pale, this is a Fact. I am not here to please anybody, I am here to give Facts. If their skin is pale, this just mean that they have a pale skin, so what?. Fact is Fact.

My brother lets not personalize issues and derail the thread what i was trying to hint at is that your posts betray you as smeone who believes in black sumpremacy[i maybe wrong but that is the impression you give] as such it taints your post as that of a biased person working towards a preconceived agenda. This reduces the credibility and objectiveness of your posts and connotes the idea that you are pursing another agenda different from what the thread is about.

'say (O Muhammad) 'i am only a man like you, it has been revealed to me that ur God is one God, so whoever hopes for the meeting with his lord, let him work righteousness and associate none partner in worship of his Lord' Quran 18:110

KunleOshob:

My brother lets not personalize issues and derail the thread what i was trying to hint at is that your posts betray you as smeone who believes in black sumpremacy[i maybe wrong but that is the impression you give] as such it taints your post as that of a biased person working towards a preconceived agenda. This reduces the credibility and objectiveness of your posts and connotes the idea that you are pursing another agenda different from what the thread is about.

Notice that I was posting on the Annunagis when you just started accusing me of racism agaisnt whites; What is the connection between whites and the Annunagis (Elohims)?, None!!, so why you started talking about whites FIRST. You even complained about one of my post with the pictures of the Annunagis that I posted when you know very well that this picture represent Blacks not whites.  My agenda here is to bring FACTS, even if some of you are not ready to accept it. Nibiru, know by our Africans ancestors as Mandjet have nothing to do with whites. Do your research.

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Allah is God

Abuzola:

Allah is God

No,he is not. Eledumare is God.

jagunlabi:

No,he is not. Eledumare is God.

El-edumare might actually be another derivative of El-ohim, El-shaddai or vis versa. I have always wonder if the title Eledumare as the same origins as El-ohim even though both words are from two distinctly unrelated and distant cultures.

I agree with darkmater and horus.

But horus has the story bit confused.

Lloyd Pye (1946-) is an American author and researcher who proposes an alternative theory of the origin of human life set within a field he terms "alternative knowledge."

Pye is the author of four books, including Everything You Know Is Wrong - Book One: Human Origins. He also conducts original research into his theories, gives lectures, and has made television appearances on The Learning Channel, National Geographic Channel, Extra, Animal Planet, and The Richard and Judy Show in the United Kingdom. In his work he rejects the overwhelming scientific consensus that humans evolved from earlier organisms; instead he asserts that the human race originated at least partly from deliberate intervention by extraterrestrial life (an "Ancient astronaut" claim).

His ideas have been criticized for the meager and dubious evidence he cites in support of them.

In his work, Pye focuses on aspects of cryptozoology, especially hominoid cryptids such as Bigfoot and Yeti. In his book Everything You Know Is Wrong he claims that these animals are Earth's only indigenous bipedal primates, and that early hominids such as Neanderthals and Australopithecines are not intermediates in human evolution.

From this premise, Pye claims that early hominids could not have been the ancestors of modern humans, denying the established scientific consensus supporting common descent.[1] Combining his ideas with those of ancient astronaut believer Zecharia Sitchin, he proposes an alternative model for the origin of Homo sapiens - that of deliberate planting by alien beings, or of interbreeding with extraterrestrials. Pye hypothesises that the first modern human peoples were the ancient Sumerians, whom he claims had knowledge of aspects of modern astronomy such as the existence of Neptune, Uranus, and Pluto.

In the late 1990s, Pye obtained a curiously shaped human child's skull from a couple in El Paso, Texas. The skull was reportedly found in a mine tunnel in northern Mexico, buried beside a skeleton of a morphologically typical human female adult lying exposed on the floor of the mine tunnel. The unusual skull has an enlarged though symmetrical cranium, and while it contains most of the complement of normal human bones, they are greatly distorted in shape, as for instance it is without an external occipital protuberance. Carbon 14 dating shows that the skull is 900 years old + or - 40 years. Pye proposes that the abnormal skull is the product of a human/alien crossbreeding program. He refers to this being as a "Starchild" and the skull as the "Starchild skull". Pye has subsequently arranged for funding and scientific testing in an attempt to demonstrate that the skull's genetic heritage is extraterrestrial.

Several tests have been performed on the skull at different labs, most funded by Pye and his supporters. Tests have included CAT scans, X-rays, radiocarbon dating by carbon 14, bone scans, scanning electron microscope analysis, mitochondrial DNA analysis, and nuclear DNA recovery.

In 1999, a chromosomal analysis of the skull was attempted by the BOLD Laboratory in Vancouver. This analysis showed that the skull's nuclear DNA responded slightly to an amelogenin primer. At only 200 picograms of DNA recovered, it was well under the usual minimum recovery value of 1000 picograms needed to make a reliable determination. However, the BOLD lab felt sufficient confidence in their result to announce that the Starchild was a fully human male child.

Because Pye was unconvinced by the BOLD Lab analysis, he arranged for a more detailed analysis of mitochondrial DNA extracted from both the skull of the purported Starchild and the adult female skeleton found with it. The results of this analysis from Trace Genetics became available in 2003. Human mtDNA was extracted from both the skull of the purported Starchild and that of the adult female found nearby. Nuclear DNA was also extracted from the adult female in two PCR reactions. The lab reported that both the Starchild Skull and adult female had mtDNA consistent with Native American origin, haplogroup C and haplogroup A, respectively, which also excluded a "mother-offspring relationship between the two individuals".[2] This demonstrates that the Starchild's mother was human, as mtDNA is passed to offspring maternally. Pye claims that the lack of nuclear DNA from the Starchild skull but not from the adult supports his hypothesis.

Carbon dating of the skull shows that the skull is likely to be around 900 years old. This is consistent with the remains' apparent Native American origin suggested by the DNA evidence.

All that i found off a wikipedia, but i have read his books and study'd his work. Not once have he mentioned cross breeding. But what he did say is that we were genetically engeneered. Witch explain why some races has more chromosomes than others.

I believe that the god talked about in the bible came from Nibiru.

Just imagine this. If you lived in the ancient Egyptians time in your 4x4 meter clay house and you see a space craft coming from the sky that you cant explain. You would fall to your knees and proclaim it a god. That is what most probably happened.

That being said, just remember that there is someone that created the earth, nibiru, annunaki, space and everything in it.

That my friends is our true God.

Plz email me your theory's @ oosie@live.com

And let me just add this, if you believe in evolution, then you stupid. Darwin's theory of evolution has no evidence. He explains that everything on land evolved from some fish. Darwin said that evolution is a proses over a period of thousands of years. But yet there is no evidence. No bones of weard half formed human fish. There's more proof about nibiru and that we were genetically engineered than Darwin's theory of evolution.

Where is planet x and is there life on it? Is it in this solar system or in orbit around a different star in our galaxy? If planet x is in this solar system it will be much too far from the sun to sustain life.

Astronomers using the most powerfull telescopes have only managed to find evidence of hundreds of massive planets orbiting very nearby stars in our own galaxy. All of the individual stars we see in the night sky are in this galaxy and relatively close to earth. Other galaxies look like points of light due to the immense distances of inter-galactic space. You can only see them as galaxies using very powerful telescopes and you cannot see individual planets. Statistically though, there are probably billions of planets in this galaxy alone. And billions in other galaxies too. If planet x is not in our galaxy how can it have been discovered?

My friend, planet X is in our solar system. Its in a elliptical orbit around the sun. It takes 3600 years for it to orbit the sun once. It is believed that it has life on it. This is information that the government don't want you to know. You have too look at the right places if you want to do research on it.

I first learned about planet X (Nibiru) on youtube. Thought it was bull crap. But then i started doing research. The Mayan civilization has a calendar that ends every 3600 years. The mayans believed in a winged planet with a civilization on it called the Annunaki.

Start doing research on this subject and your eyes will open a hole new truth. You would start putting pieces together and things will start to make sense.

The year 2012 the planet Nibiru (Planet X) Will pass between Mars and Jupiter. It is a big planet and its gravitational evect wil be a huge impact on the earth.

In my research i discovered that our planets poles shifted every 3600 years right around the same time Nibiru passed, causing global warming then a major ice age. This explains why the Mayans calendar ends every 3600 years. The Mayans had 3 similar calendars before the one that ends in 2012. In all the old civilizations that were on this planet long ago, they discovered similar writings, talking about a planet with wings and gods that will that came from the heavens.

Everyone that knows about Nibiru makes theyr oown theory about it. All the answers is in our planets old civilizations. Start with the Mayans then the Annunaki

Oosie:

My friend, planet X is in our solar system. Its in a elliptical orbit around the sun. It takes 3600 years for it to orbit the sun once. It is believed that it has life on it. This is information that the government don't want you to know. You have too look at the right places if you want to do research on it.

I first learned about planet X (Nibiru) on youtube. Thought it was bull crap. But then i started doing research. The Mayan civilization has a calendar that ends every 3600 years. The mayans believed in a winged planet with a civilization on it called the Annunaki.

Start doing research on this subject and your eyes will open a hole new truth. You would start putting pieces together and things will start to make sense.

The year 2012 the planet Nibiru (Planet X) Will pass between Mars and Jupiter. It is a big planet and its gravitational evect wil be a huge impact on the earth.

In my research i discovered that our planets poles shifted every 3600 years right around the same time Nibiru passed, causing global warming then a major ice age. This explains why the Mayans calendar ends every 3600 years. The Mayans had 3 similar calendars before the one that ends in 2012. In all the old civilizations that were on this planet long ago, they discovered similar writings, talking about a planet with wings and gods that will that came from the heavens.

Everyone that knows about Nibiru makes theyr oown theory about it. All the answers is in our planets old civilizations. Start with the Mayans then the Annunaki

Your submission is floored, you are mixing up the mayan 2012 date with the summerian annuaki/ Nibiru story. They are completely independent of each other and it is just our mordern day enthusiasts that are trying to draw a parrallel between both histories.

It is very easy to speculate but very difficult to prove . . . hence why I am suspicious of the spiritual and physical motives behind all this Planet X and Nibiru issues.

For example, there is one obvious fundamental problem with the so called Maya account . . .

- Olmecs came before Mayans.

- Mayans came after Olmecs.

- Olmecs have been postulated with evidences to have come from Africa.

So how come is it that: I am noticing people speaking of Mayans experiencing 3500 year calendars . . . i.e. the statement implies that Mayans have experienced it before.

- Are the Mayans even old enough to experience such kinda of calendars in the first place . . .

- Is there a third party account of this so called Mayan 3500yr calender issue.

Olmec

No2Atheism:

It is very easy to speculate but very difficult to prove . . . hence why I am suspicious of the spiritual and physical motives behind all this Planet X and Nibiru issues.

For example, there is one obvious fundamental problem with the so called Maya account . . .

- Olmecs came before Mayans.

- Mayans came after Olmecs.

- Olmecs have been postulated with evidences to have come from Africa.

So how come is it that: I am noticing people speaking of Mayans experiencing 3500 year calendars . . . i.e. the statement implies that Mayans have experienced it before.

- Are the Mayans even old enough to experience such kinda of calendars in the first place . . .

- Is there a third party account of this so called Mayan 3500yr calender issue.

Very interresting point, in fact the Olmecs came long before the Mayans. The Mayans get their science from the Olmecs. The Olmec developed the first civilization of the Americas. At least seventeen monumental basalt stone heads, each weighing ten to forty tons, have been unearthed in Olmec sites along the Mexican Gulf Coast. One of the first European-American scientists to comment on the Olmec heads, archaeologist Mathew Stirling, described their facial features as "amazingly Negroid." (See picture above).

I just think its too much of a coincidence that Nibiru wil arive in 2012 and the calandar ends in 2012. You dont evens know about the calendar but you stil critisize my research.

I think your too fast to judge what i've writen. I never said mayans were the first civilization.

To me it doesnt matter if the Olmecs where first or last. Commen sence shows me the mayans knew about a planet with wings namely Nibiru.
If Nibiru did come, do you think they would only go to one place on earth namely Olmecs. Im sure they didnt asociate with only the Olmecs.

Go do research and you wil discover lots of things that could link the mayans to Nibiru.

Mayb the Olmecs is Ansestors of the Mayans. You wouldnt know cos you just judge.

You know its very easy to google things. Google first then comment.

But heres an obvious question. Where is the technology. Why would the annunaki leave those civilizations with nothing but pyramids?

Here's just another intresting thing to research. Have any of you heard of Hollow Earth? Why isnt there any space pix of the north and south poles?
Why on google earth did Nasa airbrush out the north and south pole.

Horus seems good at doing research. See if you can figure that out

Look what i found

The following pictures im about to upload is all about the mayans and the mayan calendar

Oosie:

But heres an obvious question. Where is the technology. Why would the annunaki leave those civilizations with nothing but pyramids?

Here's just another intresting thing to research. Have any of you heard of Hollow Earth? Why isnt there any space pix of the north and south poles?
Why on google earth did Nasa airbrush out the north and south pole.

Horus seems good at doing research. See if you can figure that out

There are entrances that lead to the center of the earth on both poles but also on several other place on the planet; Ex: Under the Giza pyramid, in Tibet too. The entrance to one of the passage situated in Tibet is the reason why the west and China are fighting over Tibet (Both Know). They make is appear as it is politic but it is not.

Nice. Heres some pix about the mayans and they're calandar