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Re: Seun, Come And See Witches O by damogul: 1:55pm On Nov 21, 2016
Lennycool:

Confessions of children doesn't make them real witches. They're simply emulating there environment and beliefs. They're not the first to confess of witchcraft and they won't be the last. What I'm looking for is certifiable proof that they are witches with supernatural powers
Bearing the name alone doesn't make you a real witch.

Someone asked you for evidence that witches do not exist. Answer them

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Re: Seun, Come And See Witches O by Nobody: 1:56pm On Nov 21, 2016
peacesamuel94:




What evidence do you have?
Because none has been scientifically documented in present times.
Plus why would a witch hide. I see no reason for a human that can do amazing things that baffle imagination to hide.
They could be as rich as popstars, more famous in fact.
But they shun the wealth and fame, go against human nature just to hide in bushes or in darkness?
Its even harder to believe because according to you guys there are a lot of them, even children can be witches, so they would have no restraint, why has there never been any public witch that displayed supernatural powers. Not here says I'm taking about real scientific proof.

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Re: Seun, Come And See Witches O by peacesamuel94(m): 2:15pm On Nov 21, 2016
Lennycool:

Because none has been scientifically documented in present times.
Plus why would a witch hide. I see no reason for a human that can do amazing things that baffle imagination to hide.
They could be as rich as popstars, more famous in fact.
But they shun the wealth and fame, go against human nature just to hide in bushes or in darkness?
Its even harder to believe because according to you guys there are a lot of them, even children can be witches, so they would have no restraint, why has there never been any public witch that displayed supernatural powers. Not here says I'm taking about real scientific proof.

But if they decide to hide for reasons known only them does it in any way stop them from existing.....
The sum up of your reply, suggest that you are making assumptions and you are not totally sure that they don't exist.

Yet when I asked you gave a straight reply that they don't exist, Is absence of proof, a proof of absence?

You criticize Christians for believing things based on hearsay yet you are no better than those you criticize. Be sincere to yourself if I give you this kind of reply as proof of the existence of witches, would you accept it?

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Re: Seun, Come And See Witches O by Nobody: 2:42pm On Nov 21, 2016
peacesamuel94:


But if they decide to hide for reasons known only them does it in any way stop them from existing.....
The sum up of your reply, suggest that you are making assumptions and you are not totally sure that they don't exist.

Yet when I asked you gave a straight reply that they don't exist, Is absence of proof, a proof of absence?

You criticize Christians for believing things based on hearsay yet you are no better than those you criticize. Be sincere to yourself if I give you this kind of reply as proof of the existence of witches, would you accept it?
Please comprehend or atleast pretend to. Why would a witch need to hide from the scientist especially when they show themselves to a lot of people already. What's stopping a witch from showing herself to the world, doing there supernatural feats for the whole world to see live. They are very similar to Nigerian pastors that can raise the dead and heal the blind yet don't want scientific proof.
They certainly won't kill her. But upon all the purported witches existing around the world and nigeria, they are all afraid of media attention and scientists.
That doesn't make sense.
Any one that would come out as a witch and prove their supernatural powers would be rich beyond imagination. So even in this buhari times no Nigerian witch wants money?
Delusions upon delusions.
They don't exist outside your minds.[s][/s] undecided kiss

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Re: Seun, Come And See Witches O by ifenes(m): 3:08pm On Nov 21, 2016
It is ignorant of anyone based in Nigeria to claim there are no humans who have access to upgraded human abilities(witches/wizards) Going to special schools shouldn't result in total ignorance. Physics,Chemistry,Biology,Mathematics etc should be tools to understanding the phenomenon of wizardry,Alchemy etc not total delusion. When a person claims there is no possible way a human can develop more than the normal 5 senses,that person has lost the plot regardless of what he/she has achieved.

Atheism is a only a disbelieve in a supreme deity, apart from that opinions are different.

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Re: Seun, Come And See Witches O by GoodMuyis(m): 3:19pm On Nov 21, 2016
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Re: Seun, Come And See Witches O by peacesamuel94(m): 3:30pm On Nov 21, 2016
Lennycool:

Please comprehend or atleast pretend to. Why would a witch need to hide from the scientist especially when they show themselves to a lot of people already. What's stopping a witch from showing herself to the world, doing there supernatural feats for the whole world to see live. They are very similar to Nigerian pastors that can raise the dead and heal the blind yet don't want scientific proof.
They certainly won't kill her. But upon all the purported witches existing around the world and nigeria, they are all afraid of media attention and scientists.
That doesn't make sense.
Any one that would come out as a witch and prove their supernatural powers would be rich beyond imagination. So even in this buhari times no Nigerian witch wants money?
Delusions upon delusions.
They don't exist outside your minds.[s][/s] undecided kiss

must every one be interested in money?
If you are so interested in proofs then I think you should carry out your own personal research on the ones provided, even it means travelling to the places where their activities are said to be rampant, instead of making assumptions and waiting for scientists to publicly declare them existent before you believe.

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Re: Seun, Come And See Witches O by Nobody: 3:37pm On Nov 21, 2016
peacesamuel94:


must every one be interested in money?
If you are so interested in proofs then I think you should carry out your own personal research on the ones provided, even it means travelling to the places where their activities are said to be rampant, instead of making assumptions and waiting for scientists to publicly declare them existent before you believe.
Then you shouldn't pull out an article as proof in the first place, allow us to investigate.

You want to tell me that every supposed witch in existence doesn't care about money or fame?
Even the little children and poor village witches?
That is highly improbable
Re: Seun, Come And See Witches O by damogul: 3:40pm On Nov 21, 2016
Lennycool:

Then you shouldn't pull out an article as proof in the first place, allow us to investigate.

You want to tell me that every supposed witch in existence doesn't care about money or fame?
That is highly improbable

Ok when do you want to investigate?

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Re: Seun, Come And See Witches O by Nobody: 3:43pm On Nov 21, 2016
damogul:


Ok when do you want to investigate?
When I'm confronted with a witch case around my vicinity.
Trust me if witches exist and I find evidence I'll open a thread. I swear it
Re: Seun, Come And See Witches O by peacesamuel94(m): 3:51pm On Nov 21, 2016
Lennycool:

Then you shouldn't pull out an article as proof in the first place, allow us to investigate.

You want to tell me that every supposed witch in existence doesn't care about money or fame?
Even the little children and poor village witches?
That is highly improbable

That it is improbable does not stop it from happening,
The article is not the only form of evidence pointing to the existence of witches, there are a countless number of others out there for you to explore.
Like I said before, experience things for yourself before making generalized assumptions.

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Re: Seun, Come And See Witches O by damogul: 3:53pm On Nov 21, 2016
Lennycool:

When I'm confronted with a witch case around my vicinity.
Trust me if witches exist and I find evidence I'll open a thread. I swear it

Your vicinity abi? Oya where is your vicinity?
Re: Seun, Come And See Witches O by Nobody: 4:03pm On Nov 21, 2016
damogul:


Your vicinity abi? Oya where is your vicinity?
E concern you?
When I see the witches I'll open the thread
Re: Seun, Come And See Witches O by Nobody: 4:05pm On Nov 21, 2016
peacesamuel94:


That it is improbable does not stop it from happening,
The article is not the only form of evidence pointing to the existence of witches, there are a countless number of others out there for you to explore.
Like I said before, experience things for yourself before making generalized assumptions.
I didn't say the article was improbable.
I said it was improbable that of all the witches in the world, none has been exposed to scientific and media attention displaying supernatural powers.
Now that's improbable
Re: Seun, Come And See Witches O by damogul: 4:07pm On Nov 21, 2016
Lennycool:

E concern you?
When I see the witches I'll open the thread

Tell us your vicinity na lets help you with your search. I didnt ask for exact location. At least if you live in Surulere you could say my vicinity is festac or oshodi or if you live in lekki you could say your vicinity is ikoyi or ajah.

So where is your vicinity?

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Re: Seun, Come And See Witches O by damogul: 4:08pm On Nov 21, 2016
Lennycool:

I didn't say the article was improbable.
I said it was improbable that of all the witches in the world, none has been exposed to scientific and media attention displaying supernatural powers.
Now that's improbable

Witches are sworn to secrecy and it takes something more powerful than they are to make them talk. You think witches care about science? They manipulate science!

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Re: Seun, Come And See Witches O by Nobody: 4:14pm On Nov 21, 2016
ifenes:
It is ignorant of anyone based in Nigeria to claim there are no humans who have access to upgraded human abilities(witches/wizards) Going to special schools shouldn't result in total ignorance. Physics,Chemistry,Biology,Mathematics etc should be tools to understanding the phenomenon of wizardry,Alchemy etc not total delusion. When a person claims there is no possible way a human can develop more than the normal 5 senses,that person has lost the plot regardless of what he/she has achieved.

Atheism is a only a disbelieve in a supreme deity, apart from that opinions are different.


Ifenes and his mumbo jumbo grin
That's why I'm also a secular humanist. I reject all things supernatural.

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Re: Seun, Come And See Witches O by Nobody: 4:19pm On Nov 21, 2016
damogul:


Witches are sworn to secrecy and it takes something more powerful than they are to make them talk. You think witches care about science? They manipulate science!
Sworn to secrecy ke? grin
Yet they are confessing to humans.
Are you a witch?
How do you know they are sworn to secrecy?
History has taught us that nothing can remain hidden for long. Nothing
But yet witches have remained hidden for millennias.
Come to think of it, why don't we have animals that are witches, why is it like religion that is only created by beings smart enough to invent them?
Re: Seun, Come And See Witches O by ifenes(m): 4:27pm On Nov 21, 2016
Lennycool:

Ifenes and his mumbo jumbo grin
That's why I'm also a secular humanist. I reject all things supernatural.

Natural not Super-natural. You don't sound like a secular humanist to me,maybe to others.

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Re: Seun, Come And See Witches O by damogul: 4:27pm On Nov 21, 2016
Lennycool:

Sworn to secrecy ke? grin
Yet they are confessing to humans.
Are you a witch?
How do you know they are sworn to secrecy?
History has taught us that nothing can remain hidden for long. Nothing
But yet witches have remained hidden for millennias.
Come to think of it, why don't we have animals that are witches, why is it like religion that is only created by beings smart enough to invent them?


You didn't read where I said It takes a power stronger than them to make them open up and I suppose u also did not read about where a pastor came to pray for the community and what the pastor said.

Why do you guys love cherry picking?

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Re: Seun, Come And See Witches O by Nobody: 4:31pm On Nov 21, 2016
damogul:



You didn't read where I said It takes a power stronger than them to make them open up and I suppose u also did not read about where a pastor came to pray for the community and what the pastor said.

Why do you guys love cherry picking?
Stronger power?
So what about that guy that said he was flying to UK before he crashed in a river was it also a stronger power that made him confess.
Re: Seun, Come And See Witches O by Nobody: 4:32pm On Nov 21, 2016
ifenes:


Natural not Super-natural. You don't sound like a secular humanist to me,maybe to others.
Then you clearly don't know the meaning of secular humanism.
Re: Seun, Come And See Witches O by peacesamuel94(m): 4:37pm On Nov 21, 2016
Lennycool:

I didn't say the article was improbable.
I said it was improbable that of all the witches in the world, none has been exposed to scientific and media attention displaying supernatural powers.
Now that's improbable


what I meant was that, the fact that it sounds improbable for people with superhuman powers to avoid displaying their abilities to the public does not in any way stop it from happening.
alot of improbable things happen bro and the existence of witches/wizards is not an exception.
.

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Re: Seun, Come And See Witches O by damogul: 4:37pm On Nov 21, 2016
Lennycool:

Stronger power?
So what about that guy that said he was flying to UK before he crashed in a river was it also a stronger power that made him confess.


chai! indeed you are ignorant of so much. Just give me your vicinity so we make this easier

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Re: Seun, Come And See Witches O by ifenes(m): 4:39pm On Nov 21, 2016
Lennycool:

Then you clearly don't know the meaning of secular humanism.

You can only be a reflection of what you are. You don't know much about what you claim to be.

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Re: Seun, Come And See Witches O by Nobody: 4:46pm On Nov 21, 2016
ifenes:


You can only be a reflection of what you are. You don't know much about what you claim to be.

Well I think I do ifenes.
Secular humanist reject everything that has no concrete evidence. We don't believe in any God especially not one that will solve human problems. We believe only humans can save themselves. We believe in human equality and freedom.
You should read more on it
Cause I know my sh!t, I didn't just pick the name
Re: Seun, Come And See Witches O by Nobody: 5:01pm On Nov 21, 2016
There is no sense in your comment. Have you seen Allah before? Or prophet Mohammed? Or jinns or angels? But you believe they exist. Have you been to Hannah before? No! What about hell fire? It is foolishly absurd to believe in these things then since your belief is based on sight. You have no business believing in these things.
tintingz:


And yes I'm a Muslim but I don't believe in witch stuff because I've not seen one turning into creatures.

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Re: Seun, Come And See Witches O by Nobody: 5:03pm On Nov 21, 2016
Lol...I have given up on that one. He is the most daft atheist in the whole entire world. His IQ is lower than the first digit of a telephone number.
felixomor:


Please can u also go and help us verify wether Donald Trump really won the american elections.
You know, everything we read on the internet could be false.

*Yinmu* undecided

Supposing this was the story of how a journalist found a dinoSaur evolving into a human being, you would come and broadcast it on NL and open threads like Spambot.

On this one, you want 'more proof" from the other side of the phone.

"proof" indeed.

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Re: Seun, Come And See Witches O by ifenes(m): 5:05pm On Nov 21, 2016
Lennycool:


Well I think I do ifenes.
Secular humanist reject everything that has no concrete evidence. We don't believe in any God especially not one that will solve human problems. We believe only humans can save themselves. We believe in human equality and freedom.
You should read more on it
Cause I know my sh!t, I didn't just pick the name

You don't fit your label sorry.... And please stop using "We" to what you do not know.

Since you claim to reject things without evidence,I wonder if you asked for evidence when you were told there were 9 Planets in the Solar system. Have you personally seen other Planets? You were made aware that modern human who study science,whom you call "Scientists" know only 10%of how the Universe works,which obviously mean they don't know anything. You base your knowledge on these guys?

You don't even know what God is or what was mis-translated as God. Nature is big and vast and stuff people call Super-natural are misinterpreted. All things are natural.

Problem is someone like you is as closed minded as a indoctrinated person. You may not be religious but you follow a movement.

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Re: Seun, Come And See Witches O by Nobody: 5:07pm On Nov 21, 2016
Then you have no business discrediting the article, not without proper verification. If you cannot go to Ekiti then the least you can do is to hush it. How do we know the earth is really circular? Have you been outer space before? How do we know scientists actually visited the moon? How do you know you have a brain? Seen it before?
Lennycool:

Lol. You want me to go all the way to Ekiti state to see witch? I have other priorities
People that live close should investigate.
When a witch reaches my area I will investigate, but how do you even do that?
Do I just meet the girl and ask her to inflict some witchcraft on me, or do I ask her to levitate or turn to a cat?

I'm simply saying you can't bring a story from a newspaper and call it proof.

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Re: Seun, Come And See Witches O by Nobody: 5:14pm On Nov 21, 2016
ifenes:


You don't fit your label sorry.... And please stop using "We" to what you do not know.

Since you claim to reject things without evidence,I wonder if you asked for evidence when you were told there were 9 Planets in the Solar system. Have you personally seen other Planets? You were made aware that modern human who study science,whom you call "Scientists" know only 10%of how the Universe works,which obviously mean they don't know anything. You base your knowledge on these guys?

You don't even know what God is or what was mis-translated as God. Nature is big and vast and stuff people call Super-natural are misinterpreted. All things are natural.

Problem is someone like you is as closed minded as a indoctrinated person. You may not be religious but you follow a movement.



Yeah sure whatever dude
Re: Seun, Come And See Witches O by Nobody: 5:14pm On Nov 21, 2016
ifenes:


You don't fit your label sorry.... And please stop using "We" to what you do not know.

Since you claim to reject things without evidence,I wonder if you asked for evidence when you were told there were 9 Planets in the Solar system. Have you personally seen other Planets? You were made aware that modern human who study science,whom you call "Scientists" know only 10%of how the Universe works,which obviously mean they don't know anything. You base your knowledge on these guys?

You don't even know what God is or what was mis-translated as God. Nature is big and vast and stuff people call Super-natural are misinterpreted. All things are natural.

Problem is someone like you is as closed minded as a indoctrinated person. You may not be religious but you follow a movement.



Yeah sure whatever dude
If not believing in fairy tales makes me close minded then fvck yeah that's what I am.

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