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Re: Did God Command Genocide In The Bible ? This Will Shock You ! by randomperson: 10:10am On Dec 30, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


God's actions are not arbitrary or based on caprice . All in accordance to his nature . He gives life , He takes it .

Are you in God's mind to ascertain if his actions are arbitrary ?

Christianity is not based on Canaan's battles , David's victory or whatever in the Old Testament but on the life of Christianity

All these stories were included for us to see what difference Christ's coming makes
Hmmm... God killed people in the old testament just to show us that Christianity makes a difference... Cool story bro

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Re: Did God Command Genocide In The Bible ? This Will Shock You ! by felixomor: 10:10am On Dec 30, 2016
ScepticalPyrrho:
Argumentum ad populum

Sometimes Ad populum is the way to go.

Or u want to tell me u r not circumcised?
Re: Did God Command Genocide In The Bible ? This Will Shock You ! by Anas09: 10:11am On Dec 30, 2016
ScepticalPyrrho:
Ok.

I'm loosing you here.

Or maybe you just got confused.

I'll mention you again.

Let me give you time to gather yourself.
At what point do you think you lost me?

Okay, point out my confusion.
Re: Did God Command Genocide In The Bible ? This Will Shock You ! by KingEbukasBlog(m): 10:12am On Dec 30, 2016
ScepticalPyrrho:

KingEbukasBlog, I still remain his nightmare.

Now you, are just getting the hang of it.

I know how it feels. Really, I do.

I waved this arguments several times, but here I am.

I make you one promise. In another 50 years, the Bible stories would still be absurd.
Another 50,000 years...

Researches say that Christianity will hit 3 billion adherents - 800 million new adherents in the next 34 years .

While armchair atheist Scepticalpyrrho is making arbitrary assumptions

See bro

1. Some people take the entire bible as an allegory and there are so many other perspectives from which the bible has been scrutinized

2. We have archaeologists that will make more discoveries to support bible stories

3. Christianity is based on the life of Christ who is a historical figure , Judaism is based on the Old Testament

4. God is not limited to religion

If can understand these basic four and more then you know that your atheism was based on ignorance . I'm sorry to say that buddy

Read more and strive to see things from different perspectives , that's my advice to you
Re: Did God Command Genocide In The Bible ? This Will Shock You ! by dalaman: 10:13am On Dec 30, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


God's actions are not arbitrary or based on caprice . All in accordance to his nature . He gives life , He takes it .

Are you in God's mind to ascertain if his actions are arbitrary ?

Christianity is not based on Canaan's battles , David's victory or whatever in the Old Testament but on the life of Christianity

All these stories were included for us to see what difference Christ's coming makes

One minute you are defending the actions of the OT God the next minute you are Christ cane and changed everything. If it was so good as you are trying to say then why acknowledging that Christ came and changed it. Even your mentors are running away from such defence. William Craig no matter what has stopped talking about the OT God in his recent debates, because he realive it has made him lose credibility all in trying to defend the character.
Re: Did God Command Genocide In The Bible ? This Will Shock You ! by felixomor: 10:14am On Dec 30, 2016
randomperson:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/archives/news/934210/10-signs-your-child-has-a-high-iq/
http://www.newkidscenter.com/How-To-Tell-If-Your-Baby-Is-Gifted.html
https://www.adelaide.edu.au/news/news62081.html

Sometimes, you just have to school someone

U didnt even read the links u r posting.
because if u did, u will find that they are all advising women how to boost te iq of their babies while growing.
because the brains are still developing.
Not that the babies are born intelligent.

U see why i call u google otondo?

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Re: Did God Command Genocide In The Bible ? This Will Shock You ! by randomperson: 10:16am On Dec 30, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


Researches say that Christianity will hit 3 billion adherents - 800 million new adherents in the next 34 years .

While armchair atheist Scepticalpyrrho is making arbitrary assumptions

See bro

1. Some people take the entire bible as an allegory and there are so many other perspectives from which the bible has been scrutinized

2. We have archaeologists that will make more discoveries to support bible stories

3. Christianity is based on the life of Christ who is a historical figure , Judaism is based on the Old Testament

4. God is not limited to religion

If can understand these basic four and more then you know that your atheism was based on ignorance . I'm sorry to say that buddy

Read more and strive to see things from different perspectives , that's my advice to you

Iranu... Adherents are increasing not because of converts but because of birth rate. Islam is actually the fastest growing religion in the world. In developed countries like Britain and the Scandinavian countries, Christianity is reducing seriously...
Re: Did God Command Genocide In The Bible ? This Will Shock You ! by KingEbukasBlog(m): 10:16am On Dec 30, 2016
dalaman:


One minute you are defending the actions of the OT God the next minute you are Christ cane and changed everything. If it was so good as you are trying to say then why acknowledging that Christ came and changed it. Even your mentors are running away from such defence. William Craig no matter what has stopped talking about the OT God in his recent debates, because he realive it has made him lose credibility all in trying to defend the character.

Atheists are seeking relevance by fixating on the Old Testament - they are fighting to limit God to religion .

William Craig ,as well as most Christian apologists have shown that God is not limited to religion .

How about talking about the New Testament which is centered on Christ's life fully ?

Or isn't Christ God Himself ?

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Re: Did God Command Genocide In The Bible ? This Will Shock You ! by dalaman: 10:17am On Dec 30, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


Read his book to find out

Durrrh !!

grin

He speaks from both sides of his mouth. I one sentence he says archeology doesn't fully support what is inside the bible, in another he claims the events happened even though not as portrayed in the bible so which is it?
Re: Did God Command Genocide In The Bible ? This Will Shock You ! by KingEbukasBlog(m): 10:18am On Dec 30, 2016
randomperson:


Iranu... Adherents are increasing not because of converts but because of birth rate. Islam is actually the fastest growing religion in the world. In developed countries like Britain and the Scandinavian countries, Christianity is reducing seriously...

You do realize that you didn't refute my post grin ... right ?
Re: Did God Command Genocide In The Bible ? This Will Shock You ! by felixomor: 10:18am On Dec 30, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


Researches say that Christianity will hit 3 billion adherents - 800 million new adherents in the next 34 years .

While armchair atheist Scepticalpyrrho is making arbitrary assumptions

See bro

1. Some people take the entire bible as an allegory and there are so many other perspectives from which the bible has been scrutinized

2. We have archaeologists that will make more discoveries to support bible stories

3. Christianity is based on the life of Christ who is a historical figure , Judaism is based on the Old Testament

4. God is not limited to religion

If can understand these basic four and more then you know that your atheism was based on ignorance . I'm sorry to say that buddy

Read more and strive to see things from different perspectives , that's my advice to you

The guy is calling "argumentum ad populum" because we proclaim a widely accepted bible.

Yet he doesn't condemn himself "ad populum" for being circumcised.

Yeye dey smell

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Re: Did God Command Genocide In The Bible ? This Will Shock You ! by randomperson: 10:18am On Dec 30, 2016
felixomor:


U didnt even read the links u r posting.
because if u did, u will find that they are all advising women how to boost te iq of their babies while growing.
because the brains are still developing.
Not that the babies are born intelligent.

U see why i call u google otondo?
That's a lie... In fact, one of those links says u can know the IQ the weight of a new born baby
Re: Did God Command Genocide In The Bible ? This Will Shock You ! by ScepticalPyrrho: 10:19am On Dec 30, 2016
Now that I've gotten all of your attention.

Explain this too.



2 Sam 24:15 - “The Lord sent a pestilence on Israel from that morning until the appointed time; and seventy thousand of the people died”

So, David the king decided to take census of his kingdom. Then Yahweh got infuriated by this act and killed 70,000 Israelites because of David's singly decision.

The insane part of it all is that, the same God (merciful or mercifully) placed the thought in David's mind!!!
Re: Did God Command Genocide In The Bible ? This Will Shock You ! by KingEbukasBlog(m): 10:19am On Dec 30, 2016
dalaman:


He speaks from both sides of his mouth. I one sentence he says archeology doesn't fully support what is inside the bible, in another he claims the events happened even though not as portrayed in the bible so which is it?

That's not true shocked shocked

The contentious issue is that the time from the archaeological evidence is different from the time the bible posits and sometimes it could be an exaggeration

That's all sir .
Re: Did God Command Genocide In The Bible ? This Will Shock You ! by felixomor: 10:20am On Dec 30, 2016
randomperson:

That's a lie... In fact, one of those links says u can know the IQ the weight of a new born baby

Keep quiet na.
The article says if a baby gains weight well in the early weeks of life, it will determine a high iq later.
And good weight gain comes from good feeding.

U wont see that.
because u r an otondo

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Re: Did God Command Genocide In The Bible ? This Will Shock You ! by felixomor: 10:23am On Dec 30, 2016
dalaman:


He speaks from both sides of his mouth. I one sentence he says archeology doesn't fully support what is inside the bible, in another he claims the events happened even though not as portrayed in the bible so which is it?

See who dey accuse person o?

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Re: Did God Command Genocide In The Bible ? This Will Shock You ! by KingEbukasBlog(m): 10:27am On Dec 30, 2016
ScepticalPyrrho:
Now that I've gotten all of your attention.

Explain this too.



2 Sam 24:15 - “The Lord sent a pestilence on Israel from that morning until the appointed time; and seventy thousand of the people died”

So, David the king decided to take census of his kingdom. Then Yahweh got infuriated by this act and killed 70,000 Israelites because of David's singly decision.

The insane part of it all is that, the same God (merciful or mercifully) placed the thought in David's mind!!!

MrPresident1 has explained this thing before somewhere . You can seek answers from Reference bibles like the one I have .

I don't have time to open that big voluminous book to start explaining to someone who won't change afterwards

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Re: Did God Command Genocide In The Bible ? This Will Shock You ! by KingEbukasBlog(m): 10:29am On Dec 30, 2016
felixomor:


See who dey accuse person o?


Isn't it the same Dalaman that claimed that atheism began with the Indians when according to a credible source it was just 2000 years ago that atheism started in India

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Re: Did God Command Genocide In The Bible ? This Will Shock You ! by dalaman: 10:29am On Dec 30, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


Atheists are seeking relevance by fixating on the Old Testament - they are fighting to limit God to religion .

William Craig ,as well as most Christian apologists have shown that God is not limited to religion .

How about talking about the New Testament which is centered on Christ's life fully ?

Or isn't Christ God Himself ?

What ever concept of God is only limited to the religious belief that gave birth to that concept of God. There is no Jesus as God without the Christian religion. Jews that practice Judaism do not believe in Jesus even though the believe in the God of the OT.

People like William Craig know that they can't defend the Christian God or the bible God because it was very poorly thought out so they have created a new virtual God concept outside the God of the bible and they try to use modern knowledge to defend the virtual God they have created. For example William Craig will tell you that objective morality exist and they came from God but when you show him where God violates the objective moral values and how it can not come from him because of the violation, he begins to cry and say crazy things like maybe the writers of the bible were not told by God to write down such things and other crazy nonsense or that he doesn't want to talk about it because it is immaterial.

You can't have it both ways. It's either you accept the bible and it's God fully or you discard it and become a deist. Most apologist like Craig and Gary Herbamas are defending a deistic concept of God and not the God of Christian theology. That is the same thing you are doing.

Allah does not exist outside Islam, Brahma does not exist ou side hinduism, Jesus does not exist outside Christianity, just the way that Yahweh does not exist outside Judaism.
Re: Did God Command Genocide In The Bible ? This Will Shock You ! by dalaman: 10:30am On Dec 30, 2016
felixomor:


See who dey accuse person o?

Shut up!
Re: Did God Command Genocide In The Bible ? This Will Shock You ! by dalaman: 10:32am On Dec 30, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:



Isn't it the same Dalaman that claimed that atheism began with the Indians when according to a credible source it was just 2000 years ago that atheism started in India

You brought your source and I also brought mine. How is yours more credible than mine?
Re: Did God Command Genocide In The Bible ? This Will Shock You ! by felixomor: 10:32am On Dec 30, 2016
dalaman:


Shut up!

At least me will only shut one mouth up.

You if u shut one, 2 open.

Lol grin

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Re: Did God Command Genocide In The Bible ? This Will Shock You ! by felixomor: 10:33am On Dec 30, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:



Isn't it the same Dalaman that claimed that atheism began with the Indians when according to a credible source it was just 2000 years ago that atheism started in India

The guy is one funny dude.

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Re: Did God Command Genocide In The Bible ? This Will Shock You ! by KingEbukasBlog(m): 10:39am On Dec 30, 2016
felixomor:


At least me will only shut one mouth up.

You if u shut one, 2 open.

Lol grin

grin grin grin

You are wicked grin

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Re: Did God Command Genocide In The Bible ? This Will Shock You ! by felixomor: 10:46am On Dec 30, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


grin grin grin

You are wicked grin

Lol
Re: Did God Command Genocide In The Bible ? This Will Shock You ! by KingEbukasBlog(m): 10:47am On Dec 30, 2016
dalaman:


What ever concept of God is only limited to the religious belief that gave birth to that concept of God. There is no Jesus as God without the Christian religion. Jews that practice Judaism do not believe in Jesus even though the believe in the God of the OT.

People like William Craig know that they can't defend the Christian God or the bible God because it was very poorly thought out so they have created a new virtual God concept outside the God of the bible and they try to use modern knowledge to defend the virtual God they have created. For example William Craig will tell you that objective morality exist and they came from God but when you show him where God violates the objective moral values and how it can not come from him because of the violation, he begins to cry and say crazy things like maybe the writers of the bible were not told by God to write down such things and other crazy nonsense or that he doesn't want to talk about it because it is immaterial.

You can't have it both ways. It's either you accept the bible and it's God fully or you discard it and become a deist. Most apologist like Craig and Gary Herbamas are defending a deistic concept of God and not the God of Christian theology. That is the same thing you are doing.

Allah does not exist outside Islam, Brahma does not exist ou side hinduism, Jesus does not exist outside Christianity, just the way that Yahweh does not exist outside Judaism.

I believe that the true nature of God is best portrayed by Christianity not other concepts . I reject other concepts of God .
Re: Did God Command Genocide In The Bible ? This Will Shock You ! by ScepticalPyrrho: 11:17am On Dec 30, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


MrPresident1 has explained this thing before somewhere . You can seek answers from Reference bibles like the one I have .

I don't have time to open that big voluminous book to start explaining to someone who won't change afterwards
You and referrals.

Just to explain what we can read and understand clearly you keep referring to books and other theist.

Your excuses are not reasonable.
Re: Did God Command Genocide In The Bible ? This Will Shock You ! by KingEbukasBlog(m): 11:18am On Dec 30, 2016
ScepticalPyrrho:
You and referrals.

Just to explain what we can read and understand clearly you keep referring to books and other theist.

Your excuses are not reasonable.

hokay
Re: Did God Command Genocide In The Bible ? This Will Shock You ! by DoctorAlien(m): 11:26am On Dec 30, 2016
Anas09:
You do not need me to contribute anything more. You answered him well.

If the sinners are going to be completely annihiliated, why is then resurrection and judgement neccesary?

If that's the case, then there shouldn't be any need for judgement. When they die, they cease to exist, when they get completely annihiliated, they cease to exist. So, why resurrect them in the first place?

You must understand that the Bible does not, in any way, teach that evil people will be alive forever, probably in another portion of GOD's creation, shouting and yelling.

It goes this way: The righteous and wicked die, they go to the grave. When Christ comes, the righteous dead resurrect, and the living righteous are caught with them to meet the LORD in the air.1 Thes 4:16-17

At the same time the living wicked will be killed by the brightness of the LORD, while the wicked dead are not resurrected.2 Thes 2:8 After the 1000 years, the wicked are resurrected to be destroyed.
Re: Did God Command Genocide In The Bible ? This Will Shock You ! by ScepticalPyrrho: 11:30am On Dec 30, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


I believe that the true nature of God is best portrayed by Christianity not other concepts . I reject other concepts of God .
You prefer the killer of thousands, than brahma?

Is it because it appeals to our human nature?
Re: Did God Command Genocide In The Bible ? This Will Shock You ! by blueAgent(m): 11:33am On Dec 30, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FGv9aOCcyU



You can watch the video and this explanation then submit your rebuttals .


Williams Craig mentioned in the video that the Canaanites were, according to ancient history outside biblical text , morally despicable wicked people . And that their culture was grossly immoral, decadent even to its roots.

The Canaanites practiced divination, witchcraft, female and male temple sex, adultery, homosexuality, transvestitism, pederasty (men sexually abused boys), bestiality and incest.

And if you look at Genesis 19:30 -36 we can see that after Sodom - a Canaanite city - was destroyed by God , daughters of Lot made their own father drunk - this according to history was one of the sexual practices known to the city (incest) which was just annihilated .

The Canaanites also practiced child sacrifice. And according to Lev 18 : 21 God had commanded that the Israelites should never give their children to be sacrificed to Molech .

Here is what Molech looks like :

Molech was a Canaanite underworld deity represented as an upright, bull-headed idol with human body in whose belly a fire was stoked and in whose outstretched arms a child was placed that would be burned to death

And I discovered that it wasn't just infants who were victims of this nauseatingly wicked practice , even toddlers were scarified to Molech . Also note that archaeological evidence proves that the children were burned to death in their thousands . So much wickedness that God now commanded the Israelites to exterminate them after 400 years of reprieve .

And according to Philosophers like Paul Copan all the archaeological evidence available indicates that there were no civilian populations that existed at Jericho, Ai, and other cities mentioned in the book of Joshua .

Philosopher Paul Copan also explained that :

“Joshua’s conventional warfare rhetoric was common in many other ancient Near Eastern military accounts in the second and first millennia B.C.” Therefore, phrases like “utterly destroy” (haram), or “put to death men and women, children, and infants”—as well as other “obliteration language”—were stock “stereotypical” idioms used even when women or children were not present. It decreed total victory (much like your favorite sports team “wiping out” the opposition), not complete annihilation.

So William Craig was right .



I concur 100% .excellent article.

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Re: Did God Command Genocide In The Bible ? This Will Shock You ! by KingEbukasBlog(m): 11:33am On Dec 30, 2016
ScepticalPyrrho:
You prefer the killer of thousands, than brahma?

Is it because it appeals to our human nature?

So why don't you serve brahma as god ?

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